Sweep! NHL-best Lightning ousted in record speed by Columbus
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Sullen and speechless, the Tampa Bay Lightning had little explanation for how they followed up a glorious regular season by getting bounced from the playoffs with record-setting haste.
The Columbus Blue Jackets capped a stunning sweep of the Presidents' Trophy winners with a 7-3 victory Tuesday night. Tampa Bay became the first team in the expansion era, which began in 1967-68, to go winless in the first round of the playoffs after leading the league in points during the regular season.
And what a season it was. Tampa Bay tied the NHL record for wins with 62 and amassed 128 points, fourth in NHL history.
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If you get swept in hockey, is that like curling?The zamboni comes out and sweeps all the losers right out off the ice and out of the arena.
Congrats to all the teams, especially the winners.
It's astonishing that the San Jose Sharks were losing 2 to nothing in the 18th minute of their game versus the Vegas Knights. I wrote San Jose out of it turned the TV off.
They came back, they won the game 5-4 and won the series.
Joe Pavelski, born in Wisconsin for you all, just looking this up, he got laid out flat on the ice in that 3rd period... and apparently that helped ignite the team. So, I did see him go down. I just don't want to call it a cheap shot but it sounds like it. I think the Knights got penalized.
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/sharks/how-sharks-rallied-joe-pavelski-won-craziest-game-theyve-seen (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/bayarea/sharks/how-sharks-rallied-joe-pavelski-won-craziest-game-theyve-seen)
https://www.nhl.com/news/joe-pavelski-injury-sparks-san-jose-sharks-game-7-rally/c-306993334 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/news/joe-pavelski-injury-sparks-san-jose-sharks-game-7-rally/c-306993334)
@TomSea
Tommy, it was something to behold!
Watching live, we had no idea what happened to Pavelski and how bad the injury was. When the whistle blew he was just laying on the ice motionless. Sharks players surrounded him and were calling for medical attention, and also yelling at the LV players to stay away.
After a commercial break they showed some replays. IMO it was the kind of "shove" or "cross check" that you often see in the faceoff circle after the puck is played out... penalty? usually yes... but not called very often... the bad thing about it is that Pavelski lost his balance and another LV player tried to skate through him as it was happening and his knee got behind Pavelski's legs as he was tumbling back and it made the fall backward so much worse.
Pavelski hit the ice with his shoulder first and his head struck it hard an instant later. The good thing was that they were able to get him to his feet and help him off the ice, he had a towel on the bleeding that occurred under the helmet.
Now bear in mind that Paveliski is the Shark's Captain. The team got so fired up that their play on the 5 minute major power play was simply stunning to see!!
They scored 4 goals in the first 4:01 of the 5:00 major power play. I have been watching NHL hockey since the early 1960s and have never seen such intensity from a team for such a sustained time on the power play. Except for the faceoffs at center ice after each goal, the play never left the LV end.
I hope that Pavelski is OK and can play in the next series.
What also made it sweeter was that after LV tied them at 4 with less than 1 minute left in the 3rd period, the Sharks came back to win it toward the end of the 1st Overtime Period!!
@EdJames
Thanks, what a descriptive informative post.
So, I read a little on Pavelski going down.
Vegas Knights might have been given a bad deal.
I know in some cases, the NHL has that "blood rule", if you draw blood, it's a 5 minute penalty but I don't know, if it is every case. I know, they had to get a towel to staunch the blood when the player went off.
I may be for one team or the other; but one thing I am always for, I want the game to be as fairly called as possible.
Next round matchups, Western Conference
Avalanche vs. Sharks, watch me be wrong but the Avs appear to be pretty awesome.
Stars vs. Blues, the Stars have one very good scoring line. Probably more but I read about them in the news as well.
Though not a regular hockey fan, I do watch the Stanley Cup.
In hockey, the difference between the best playoff team and the worst team is not as great as the teams in the NBA.
In the NBA first round there were a number of sweeps and series that only went five games. In the eastern division there were two sweeps and two series that only went five games. There is only one series that might go seven games.
In the Stanley Cup first round there have been a number of seven game series.
In hockey due to the much lower scoring chances mistakes are magnified. That's why a team like Tampa Bay which won twelve more games during the regular season than the next high team got eliminated in the first round. That simply doesn't happen in the NBA.
Stars in hockey can be stopped or inhibited a lot more than stars in basketball. Many years ago I remember Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr both getting stopped cold by New Jersey in one Stanley Cup series. That never happened to Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen.
In hockey, the playoff underdogs have a much better chance with a hot goalie and extra effort.
Yup, a hot goalie can take you far in the playoffs.Carolina vs Washington tonight, game seven. I'll be watching. I do get a kick out of whenever the home team scores a goal and the airhorns and smoke go off.
(I love Game 7s, wish every series went to 7!)
Carolina vs Washington tonight, game seven. I'll be watching. I do get a kick out of whenever the home team scores a goal and the airhorns and smoke go off.
I will be rooting for Carolina tonight. I used to not mind the "Great 8" until they actually won the Cup last year. This year when I see him out there, he just seems to be a bit too full of himself now.I think ESPN might regret a closeup of Ovechkin after a goal was taken away in the last game. After the refs disallowed a goal for Washington, they focused on Ovechkin clearly mouthing the words "f***ing bullsh*t." So he does know a number of English expressions which I guess is positive. :pondering:
The airhorns are great! The smoke is fairly new in a lot of arenas, in the past it was the airhorn and the flashing red light that got everyone juiced up!!
I think ESPN might regret a closeup of Ovechkin after a goal was taken away in the last game. After the refs disallowed a goal for Washington, they focused on Ovechkin clearly mouthing the words "f***ing bullsh*t." So he does know a number of English expressions which I guess is positive. :pondering:
Yeah, Ovie puts on a show almost every game.
Will be tough for the Canes tonight in Washington... hoping that "Mr. Game 7" Captain Justin Williams can lead them to victory... score early to quiet the home crowd.
ROFL~!
...in another lifetime, perhaps.
GO CAPS!!!
Hoping that Russian bastard reverts to his pre-2018 choker self. bleep the caps!!
3-1 in the 2nd period.
wink777
You spoke too soon, comrade! wink777
It took Double Overtime, but who was it that setup the game winner??
"Mr. Game 7" Captain Justin Williams, leads his team to victory in Game 7!!
It was pretty clear that Carolina had the better conditioned team from the 3rd period on. Better legs through overtime, it was pretty much just a matter of when they would score.
But I have to give it to the Russian bastard, he was a good sport throughout and had some good words for both Dougie Hamilton and Justin Williams during the handshakes. No perfunctory grunts while looking at the ice, Ovie looked them in the eyes and congratulated them.
All 4 Division winners knocked out in the first round. Defending Champions, Caps, knocked out in the first round.
Happy for Rod Brind'amour, great job keeping his team in it through 7 games!!
On to Round Two!!
Columbus, New York Islanders, Carolina.The "problem" with all sports is that they need stars.
The NHL marketing department HAS to be having a coronary looking at the Eastern Conference teams remaining. No Crosby? No Ovechkin? The biggest stars of the game, sidelined? Two of the worst-attended teams in the NHL move on?
Columbus, New York Islanders, Carolina.
The NHL marketing department HAS to be having a coronary looking at the Eastern Conference teams remaining. No Crosby? No Ovechkin? The biggest stars of the game, sidelined? Two of the worst-attended teams in the NHL move on?
I've got real bad news for the NHL, I predict Dallas and Carolina in the Stanley Cup Finals.
The "problem" with all sports is that they need stars.
If all the teams are so close to one another in talent, it takes the risk of making games irrelevant. If any team in the playoffs of whatever sport can win, why watch?
Fans, like me, who don't have a home team to root for follow the sport and look for great players/teams to champion. Nothing against the teams that have progressed from the first round, but I just can't get excited.
Average fans need heroes and villains.
Among all the major team sports hockey seems to have the most equalized talent. Nobody wants to be a fan of a perennial loser, but the average fan does want to see great players and great teams even if it is to root against them.
Golden State is a great team with great players, but I despise them more than maybe any team I've ever hated in any sport. And that goes back many, many decades.
I agree @TomSea I like to see the games called evenly between the two teams.@EdJames
They do have the "blood rule" on high sticking penalties that will convert a 2 minute minor into a 5 minute major, I'm not sure if it extends to a play like that. Being unsure of what the rules say exactly, I think that the refs called the 5 minute major since he was unconscious for a while and bleeding from the head, it definitely influenced their decision.
From seeing some of their 1st round games, I think that the St. Louis Blues have a good chance to advance in the West. Won't be surprised to see them against the Sharks for the Western Final.
I would love to see Carolina get past the Caps tonight (another Game 7!) and meet Columbus for the Eastern Final.
I like it when the lesser known city's teams keep advancing.
Bluejackets swept the Lightning, I hope they can shake off what's been quite a layoff.
Sharks have a lot of playoff experience. I would think, they are one of the most winning sports franchises in NA in the last few decades. I think after making the SC final a few years ago, then, they had a bit of a layoff... but they are back up there.
I have no idea about the Avalanche Blues, they are in that central division so, they must have faced each other a number of times.
World Cup 2006, it's etched in my mind, the night before it began or the night before the first Saturday matches, the Hurricanes defeated the Calgary Flames for the SC. So, the Canes have won it, the Stars have won it, the Avs I think won it.
I'd prefer to see a new team hold the trophy up.
I've got real bad news for the NHL, I predict Dallas and Carolina in the Stanley Cup Finals.
Not bad news for this Canes fan! So thankful they brought Williams back to captain this team. It's taken a long time to wash the stain of that franchise killing, coach killing, bum Eric Staal away...a pox upon him!
@EdJames
"blood rule" or actually defined as any visible injury as a result of a high stick results in a double minor (Two 2:00 penalties) not a 5:00 major.
I agree with you that the injury undoubtedly did affect the refs decision to assess the major. Unfortunately, refs are human and sometimes fall prey to "jeez guys, we've gotta assess SOMETHING on that!"
FULL DISCLOSURE: 17 year hockey player and long time ice hockey official speaking...
@goatprairiePackers fan. I don't hate the Patriots. I just hope they lose whenever they play. Or is that hate?
Lemme guess...Patriots fan? wink777
@TomSea
Well the 2nd Round is almost over. Just had a great Game 7 between St. Louis and Dallas. Blues win it in the 2nd OT, about 5 minutes in, when Maroon pokes in a rebound that dropped over Bishop's back.
8888crybaby
Always tough to lose a Game 7, even tougher to lose it in OT.
Dallas played a strong series, no regrets there. But tonight the Blues just had that extra half-step in their legs...
Always tough to lose a Game 7, even tougher to lose it in OT.
Dallas played a strong series, no regrets there. But tonight the Blues just had that extra half-step in their legs...
The Avs and Sharks tonight, Colorado really is a stubborn team as well and they defeated Winnipeg who, at least, was among the better teams in the Western conference. And that's game 7...I think I'd jinx a team if I picked them. I'll just say it should be good.Yeah, I don't mind. We can take down the football thread now that the season's over and replace it with this one.
The Washington Capitols dropped in overtime this year, won an OT game 7 last year... those roller coaster games...
The Bruins have shown some of the right stuff, I think they should put up an adequate challenge vs. Carolina.
@corbe I guess, we could sticky it. Thinking about it? Others?
The Avs and Sharks tonight, Colorado really is a stubborn team as well and they defeated Winnipeg who, at least, was among the better teams in the Western conference. And that's game 7...I think I'd jinx a team if I picked them. I'll just say it should be good.
The Washington Capitols dropped in overtime this year, won an OT game 7 last year... those roller coaster games...
The Bruins have shown some of the right stuff, I think they should put up an adequate challenge vs. Carolina.
@corbe I guess, we could sticky it. Thinking about it? Others?
I think they need to remove the "C" from Jamie Benn's jersey, didn't show up for this series.
I'm definitely rooting for San Jose at this point... it'd be nice to see them finally break past their annual Second Round Exit.
@EdJames
@jmyrlefuller
@goatprairie
@Axeslinger
@dfwgator
@EasyAce
I think I got everyone. Thread is now stickied. The problem with stickies is I tend to think some lose the thread looking in the white area.
Some years ago, in one of the first extensive overtime games, I watched the Sharks play someone and I believe that was a historic longest game ever (or one of them) for that time. That record has been broken since.
But, I always kind of liked them. I think they still made the Stanley Cup final a few years ago. I like them but if I just had to pick a team to win tonight, I'd go with the Avalanche and I'm not really much of a Colorado fan.
This year has been a bit of a changing of the guard to me but not only that, the higher seeds have had problems winning, seeing Tampa Bay, Winnipeg and so on. And that's fine with me. This has probably been one of the best postseasons in awhile. I could be wrong about all of this but it does seem like the higher seeds have had problems.
@EdJames
@jmyrlefuller
@goatprairie
@Axeslinger
@dfwgator
@EasyAce
I think I got everyone. Thread is now stickied. The problem with stickies is I tend to think some lose the thread looking in the white area.
Sharks advance. (Although that reviewed "offsides" that took away Colorado's goal that tied it at 2 is certainly controversial to say the least!)I don't know if the puck went out of the zone or not. They replayed it a number of times, but I still couldn't see where the puck was over the blue line. If it was, the Av player was clearly off sides.
Round 3 starts tonight with Boston hosting Carolina in the Eastern Conference Finals (Go 'Canes!!)
Western Conference Finals start Saturday with the Blues traveling to San Jose.
Sharks' OT Goal Counts, Despite Illegal Handpass: "I'm Sure They'll Lose Some Sleep".
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2019/05/15/nhl-playoffs-sharks-defeat-blues-overtime-after-illegal-play/3688710002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2019/05/15/nhl-playoffs-sharks-defeat-blues-overtime-after-illegal-play/3688710002/)
Hoping that San Jose wins Game 7 tonight.... would like to see a Sharks-Canes Cup Final Series!
Any one see how badly St. Louis was screwed last night? The officating parallels between last nights game and the Saint's NFC championship game is uncanny. Left Coast bias?
Any one see how badly St. Louis was screwed last night? The officating parallels between last nights game and the Saint's NFC championship game is uncanny. Left Coast bias?
Well @TomSea the Bruins certainly seemed a bit rusty in the first period after their 10 day layover.... Blues jumped to a 2-0 lead and looked to be in control... then the Bear woke up.... Boston really seemed to own the game in the 2nd and 3rd periods...
Wednesday night: chance for the Blues to steal one on the road!!
Want the Blues to win, but if last night was any evidence, they were being outplayed at every angle of the game.
One other thing.......
I am new to this game, but I already have a strong dislike of that Boston punk Marchand.
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKchi4KWUus#)
@EdJames
Ed, being new to game of Hockey, I have a few questions......
(1) Seems STL is way more physical and agressive on the glass than BOS is. Given Sundvquist suspension, and every hit being reviewed, is that a good strategy?
(2) Seems icing is "exempt" on power plays. Since that is the case, why don't short handed teams just "kamikaze" the puck and sling it down the rink every time?
(3) Tripping penalties. Seems it could be called 50 times a game every time during contact. How come refs call it it certain cases and not others.
(4). Delay of game when the puck leaves the rink- I still haven't figured how that is discerned.
(5) Fighting penalties- See no. 3.
(6) Taking Binnington out in Game 3. I liken this to taking a rookie pitcher out of a crucial situation. Often that can hurt the kids confidience. Different in this case?
Thanks for your expertise on this thread.
Rule 63 – Delaying the Game
63.1 Delaying the Game – A player or a team may be penalized when, in the opinion of the Referee, is delaying the game in any manner.
63.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on any player, including the goalkeeper, who holds, freezes or plays the puck with his stick, skates or body in such a manner as to deliberately cause a stoppage of play. With regard to a goalkeeper, this rule applies outside of his goal crease area.
A minor penalty for delay of game shall be imposed on any player who deliberately shoots or bats (using his hand or his stick) the puck outside the playing area (from anywhere on the ice surface) during the play or after a stoppage of play.
When any player shoots or bats (using his hand or his stick) the puck directly (non-deflected) out of the playing surface from his defending zone, except where there is no glass, a penalty shall be assessed for delaying the game. The determining factor shall be the position of the puck when it was shot or batted by the offending player. If contact with the puck occurs while the puck is inside the defending zone, and subsequently goes out of play, the minor penalty shall be assessed. When the puck is shot into the players’ bench, the penalty will not apply. When the puck is shot over the glass ‘behind’ the players’ bench, the penalty will be assessed. When the puck goes out of the playing area directly off a face-off, no penalty shall be assessed.
Hi @catfish1957
Some info below your post.
Thanks @EdJames. Very informative, and helpful.
You are welcome cat, enjoy the game on Thursday evening, it should be a good one!!
@EdJames
What a game Ed. Too bad there was a missed call, but the Blues got the bad end of one in OT in the last series. I guess it all evens out.
I know I haven't seen that many games, but that has to be a text book example of bad ass goal keeping if there ever was one. (both sides)
Greatest Goalkeeper of all time, well, Jacques Plante sure gets a lot of attention.
Best Goalkeeper name, Gump Worsley.
Patrick Roy, plenty of other great keepers as well, that guy who won it with the Anaheim Ducks some years ago was pretty sharp too.
It's hard to measure.
@EdJames
The team from St. Louis may be awarded their first Stanley Cup in their history tonight...
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The man who led the franchise to its first Stanley Cup Finals since 1970 is part Cree, meaning he’s partly of First Nation descent.
...
“What you had to have back then was a Métis card,†Berube said of a certified ID card. “It’s a half-white, half-native type card Because, you know, I look white, and I’d go play in these hockey tournaments. They’d want to know if I had native in me. They’d check you out and stuff. Métis is what you call a person that is white and native.â€
He garnered the nickname “Chief,†which is common for players with an indigenous peoples’ background. The achievement of their representation isn’t lost on him or Nolan.
https://heavy.com/sports/2019/05/craig-berube-blues-coach-ethnicity-nationality/
The only St. Louis Blues I ever cared about was . . .
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I'm like Sir Charles, always root for the team that never won a championship!
In 1994, the NY Rangers won the Stanley Cup, I use to hear some commercial or something where one of their fans was saying "The Rangers have won the Stanley Cup ( their first since 1940 ) and now, I can die and leave this world", it was something like that. It seems a similar wait for Blues fans.
But even per the original six, Boston hasn't really won that many, as the same for the Rangers and Blackhawks though, in recent years with Patrick Kane and the other guy, Chicago went on a bit of a tear with the SC winning 3 I believe, 2010, 2013, 2015.
So, it's tough, I'm glad someone new won the Cup.
I really want to be glad for the Blues. Really, I do. 52 years without winning a Stanley Cup... that's tough. Plus, I think everyone's tired of Boston winning at this point, and St. Louis lost the NFL not too long ago, so they've been a little down on their luck.
But I'm from Western New York... and now I find out one of their top executives is... Brett Hull. Mr. No Goal, Skate-in-the-Crease Brett Hull.
Ugh. Not making this easy on me, are you, Saint Louie?!
Brett Hull was not a Blues player that year but I saw one article where he is considered one of the best Blues players of all time.
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