“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell
No matter how far you have gone on a wrong road, turn back. - Turkish Proverb
[Democrats never turn back.
You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks. - Winston Churchill
whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. -Philippians 4:8
This is the day the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
Amen. Thank you for that @ChemEngrMBA
I have come to regard this thread as one of my never-miss dailies.
Kudos, @ChemEngrMBA
My Dear Friends, thank you for your kind words.
Beginning with college in 1968, I began collecting wisdom from those before me to help me learn.
I continue to come across wisdom from decades or centuries ago that I have never before heard.
Many of those have already been posted so that you can benefit as well.
It is the duty of each of us to do all the mitzvahs we can do daily. A "mitzvah" is a good deed. The Hebrew word means "commandment." You are commanded to do good. It's not hard. It benefits you and everyone around you, as you will experience.
You get more creative and better with experience.
I put this on my shirt when I ran a 10K at my alma mater university:
"SUPPORT MENTAL HEALTH
OR I'LL KILL YOU!"
"The NEA represents, and presumably reflects the mentality of, the people who are delivering -- inflicting? -- public education. That is as frightening, in its way, as any foreign threat." --George Will
888high58888 Public education is, by far, the biggest racquet going in this country now.
My good Friend, if you have any additions to my website on that topic, please forward them to me.
http://Theeducationfraud.wordpress.com
Stand by @ChemEngrMBA before it's over you might regret that statement!
888high58888 Public education is, by far, the biggest racquet going in this country now.
"It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error." --Supreme Court Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954)
Amen. Thank you for that @ChemEngrMBA
Lord God, Jesus Christ, please stop the evil that keeps prevailing on this country.
"The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who
are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ---Samuel Adams
And then God created a Democrat.
"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
Bernie Madoff
Jeffrey Epstein
Phil Spector
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Chairman Mao
Vladimir Putin
Democrats
If those are not the hallmarks of a delusion, I don’t know what is. –Illogical Atheism, by Bo Jinn, former atheist
Believing in a magical fairy that lives in the sky and loves you so much he inflicts terrible pain and suffering on most of you to prove he loves you?
Organized religion is about controlling the masses with fear in order to keep them in line.
Organized atheism has a lot to answer for, from Lenin to Stalin to Hitler to Chairman Mao to the fatuous pretense that everything made itself from nothing, to the fact that of all religions, atheism has the lowest retention rate and the fewest number of Nobel Laureates in science. The Unabomber was a genius who murdered people he hated with package bombs. He had a well-worn copy of atheist Isaac Asimov's Two Volume Guide to the Bible in his rathole cabin, along with Al Gore's Earth in the Balance.
I refer you to http://Proof-There-Is-No-God.blogspot.com
and http://Irrational-Atheism.blogspot.com
@ChemEngrMBA
Organized atheism has a lot to answer for, from Lenin to Stalin to Hitler to Chairman Mao to the fatuous pretense that everything made itself from nothing, to the fact that of all religions, atheism has the lowest retention rate and the fewest number of Nobel Laureates in science. The Unabomber was a genius who murdered people he hated with package bombs. He had a well-worn copy of atheist Isaac Asimov's Two Volume Guide to the Bible in his rathole cabin, along with Al Gore's Earth in the Balance.
I refer you to http://Proof-There-Is-No-God.blogspot.com
and http://Irrational-Atheism.blogspot.com
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes. Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes. Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....What CL said. Change topics.
Lets just enjoy this thread of quotes. Not the place for Christian vs Atheist arguments....
@Cyber Liberty
It's a "fight" nobody ever wins,anyway.
I personally don't give a squat who worships who or what,as long as they don't insist that I worship it with them.
“Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you are a mile away from them and you have their shoes.”
—Jack Handey
There is overwhelming evidence that the higher the level of self-esteem, the more likely one will be to treat others with respect, kindness, and generosity.— Nathaniel Branden, Canadian Psychotherapist
LOL! Leftists have an extremely high level of self esteem, yet they are the worst people on the planet.
Analyze that point carefully. Is it perhaps that Leftists CLAIM intellect, rationality and morality, but deep down inside,
they know that they are really low-lifes and so their self-esteem is seriously compromised? They're bitter, petulant,
dishonest and very unhappy overall. These are not characteristics of people with true high-level self-esteem, as you
and I have. Conservatives are consistently happier people. The most mentally unstable are Leftist women, according
to studies.
Analyze that point carefully. Is it perhaps that Leftists CLAIM intellect, rationality and morality, but deep down inside,
they know that they are really low-lifes and so their self-esteem is seriously compromised? They're bitter, petulant,
dishonest and very unhappy overall. These are not characteristics of people with true high-level self-esteem, as you
and I have. Conservatives are consistently happier people. The most mentally unstable are Leftist women, according
to studies.
:thumbsup:
Walter was correct about a LOT of things! I miss him....Now there is nobody to tell me to go to the head of the class.... :crying:
For several years I carried on a running correspondence with Dr. Williams from which I learned a great deal. He was and is a giant! I sorely miss him.
".... no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end." - Ecclesiastes 3:11Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.
"There is an infinite amount of research to do." - Scientists, eager for an infinite amount of government grants, confirming Ecclesiastes 3:11
Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.
Of course. They spend a lot of time asking the wrong questions and looking in the wrong places.
@Smokin JoeFirst off, no one will ever know it all. And yes, every answer brings more questions.
Well,if they already knew it all,there would be no reason to do any research,and nobody ever found the "right places" without discovering a few "wrong places" first.
It's just the nature of the bidnez.
People will always ask questions above their Rational to comprehend. It's referred to as Human Perspective and I believe it to be encoded in our DNA.
Just look at the Historical, Archaeological and Geological record of our planet with your Religious Blinders off, perhaps you will have a whole different perspective, like me.
As the saying goes, one's reach should exceed one's grasp.
I would assume you are very much alone in your chosen Career Field @ChemEngrMBA
Most in your field would follow (Proven) Science and not dabble in Theology, correct me if I'm wrong.
I admire your tenacity. :beer:
My bad @ChemEngrMBA I had just assumed that most Chemical Engineers would have more Questions than answers at this point, this you do not portray.
I don't even know why I'm replying on this Thread, maybe like you, I am looking for answers to questions.
That you reject answers does not make them any less true.
Now please pose your questions, the ones for which you claim to seek answers.
Now you are going to resort to full-time Bible-Thumping with every post here?
@ChemEngrMBA
@mystery-ak
How about not clicking on this thread..infact on your profile page you can *ignore* this thread..
@mystery-ak
Ok,so you are now welcoming fundie threads and all the insanity and fear they bring with them.
You DO know that @ChemEngrMBA is getting more radical every day,right? It is no longer an occasional thing with him. He is doing it every day.
"Fundie thread":
Today - Quoted Aristotle "Fundie"
"A fool contributes nothing and takes offense at everything." - Aristotle
Yesterday - Quoted College Professor "Fundie"
July 7 - Quoted Winston Churchill "Fundie"
July 5 - Quoted College Professor "Fundie"
July 4 - Quoted Supreme Court Decision "Fundie"
Julyo 3 - quoted George Bernard Shaw "Fundie"
July 1 - Quoted President George Washington "Fundie"
The "insanity and fear" is all yours. I did not bring any of it in. You bathe in it.
It is your metier. Read Aristotle's quote for today. Ironically, I posted it before you threw your hissy fits, as if anticipating
your follies.
Now go away and don't come back to this thread since it only brings you "insanity and fear," and I think rightly so.
Your future is very dim, but evidently so is your past.
Dear AK, please block this interloper from visiting this thread again. I will pay you to do so.
@sneakypete
Please read Nancy's post again. Let us know if you have a problem setting up "Ignore Thread."
TBR is not meant for deep threads about religion, but we aren't anti-religious either.
@sneakypete
Please read Nancy's post again. Let us know if you have a problem setting up "Ignore Thread."
TBR is not meant for deep threads about religion, but we aren't anti-religious either.
"I've come to believe there is little, if any, honesty in the media, and ethic is a word they are totally unfamiliar with." --Ronald Reagan
This was said at a time long before the media slid deep into the cesspool of lies and being lackeys for Democrats.
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments. He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals. That was not remotely true.
Happy now "Administrator"?
"If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem."
Richard Bach
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments. He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals. That was not remotely true.
Happy now "Administrator"?
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist
This is my last post on GOP, thanks to a hateful little atheist and the "Administrator" who refused to ban him from harassing me and making stupid comments. He was too petty and ignorant to ignore me and likewise the "Administrator" told both of us to stop it, as if we were equals. That was not remotely true.
Happy now "Administrator"?
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.
Good grief everyone .... this thread and forum needs a great big group hug???? happy77
Good grief everyone .... this thread and forum needs a great big group hug???? happy77
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.
Don't make it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Feed the puppies.
Nearly all men can stand adversity,
but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
- Abraham Lincoln
[So much for Dawkins’ specious argument in defense of Darwinism, which he proudly claimed, “… made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.” (http://UncommonDescent.com)
I'll give him credit, he did not appear crestfallen, and we remained friends, but I was only convinced of the far greater improbability that humans originated from a random process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_program
In chapter 3 of his book The Blind Watchmaker, Dawkins gave the following introduction to the program, referencing the well-known infinite monkey theorem:
I don't know who it was first pointed out that, given enough time, a monkey bashing away at random on a typewriter could produce all the works of Shakespeare. The operative phrase is, of course, given enough time. Let us limit the task facing our monkey somewhat. Suppose that he has to produce, not the complete works of Shakespeare but just the short sentence 'Methinks it is like a weasel', and we shall make it relatively easy by giving him a typewriter with a restricted keyboard, one with just the 26 (capital) letters, and a space bar. How long will he take to write this one little sentence?
[NOTE: How lazy of Richard Dawkins to fail to look up the author of his monkey business. It was Sir Arthur Eddington.
In 1928, British astrophysicist Arthur Eddington presented a classical illustration of chance in his book, The Nature of the Physical World: “If I let my fingers wander idly over the keys of a typewriter it might happen that my screed made an intelligible sentence. If an army of monkeys were strumming on typewriters they might write all the books in the British Museum.”
This is nonsense compounding nonsense. And yet my high school math teacher presented this proposition to his classes in the 1960’s.
First, an “army of monkeys” wouldn’t be very interested in hitting typewriter keys repeatedly. There is nothing for them to gain in so doing.
Second, those who did hit the keys would quickly get to the end of the line, and have no concept of returning the carriage to type the second line.
Third, those very few who somehow
overcame the first and second hurdles, repeatedly, would find that the paper was ejected from the carriage, and they are hopelessly unable to replace the first page with a fresh sheet of paper.
Fourth, we will never get to the fourth problem of exhausting the ink in the typewriter ribbons because the “army of monkeys” would have defecated on or otherwise ruined every typewriter.
Fifth, Sir Arthur Eddington never began to consider the statistics of monkeys “selecting” 1 out of approximately 100 different keys, counting upper and lower case of all letters, numbers, and punctuation marks. A page of an average book has 250 – 300 words. (https://hotghostwriter.com/blogs/blog/novel-length-how-long-is-long-enough)
The average word has 6.47 letters. (https://capitalizemytitle.com/character-count/100-characters/)
Using the lower value of 250 words, times 6.47 letters equals 1,617 characters in a page.
1/100 to the 1,617th power is 10 to the -3,234, for just one page, much less “all the books in the British Museum.”
“we just think of one chance in 10 to the 40th power” as “impossible”. – Richard Dawkins, (The Blind Watchmaker, page 142)
Emil Borel, a famous statistician, defined “impossible” as an event with a probability of 10-50 or less.
https://owlcation.com/stem/Borels-Law-of-Probability
This is equivalent to finding one unique marble, in 78 spheres the size of our solar system out to Pluto, all full of identical marbles except for one, on your first and only attempt. You do not get an infinite number of attempts, not even two.
Therefore 10 to the 50 marbles, each 1cm in diameter, would occupy 78 spheres reaching from the center of the sun to Pluto, 5.906 billion kilometers from the sun. (10 to the 5 marbles/km)cubed = 10 to the 15 marbles per cubic km
To get 35 more orders of magnitude requires the multiplier of roughly (4.64 x 10 to the 11) cubed, for volume.
4.64x 10 to the 11 km/5.906 x 10 to the 9 km= ~78.5 spheres the size of our solar system to Pluto]
Dawkins then goes on to show that a process of cumulative selection can take far fewer steps to reach any given target. In Dawkins':
We again use our computer monkey, but with a crucial difference in its program. It again begins by choosing a random sequence of 28 letters, just as before ... it duplicates it repeatedly, but with a certain chance of random error – 'mutation' – in the copying. The computer examines the mutant nonsense phrases, the 'progeny' of the original phrase, and chooses the one which, however slightly, most resembles the target phrase, METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL.
By repeating the procedure, a randomly generated sequence of 28 letters and spaces will be gradually changed each generation. The sequences progress through each generation:
Generation 01: WDLTMNLT DTJBKWIRZREZLMQCO P [2]
Generation 02: WDLTMNLT DTJBSWIRZREZLMQCO P
Generation 10: MDLDMNLS ITJISWHRZREZ MECS P
Generation 20: MELDINLS IT ISWPRKE Z WECSEL
Generation 30: METHINGS IT ISWLIKE B WECSEL
Generation 40: METHINKS IT IS LIKE I WEASEL
Generation 43: METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
Dawkins continues:
The exact time taken by the computer to reach the target doesn't matter. If you want to know, it completed the whole exercise for me, the first time, while I was out to lunch. It took about half an hour. (Computer enthusiasts may think this unduly slow. The reason is that the program was written in BASIC, a sort of computer baby-talk. When I rewrote it in Pascal, it took 11 seconds.) Computers are a bit faster at this kind of thing than monkeys, but the difference really isn't significant. What matters is the difference between the time taken by cumulative selection, and the time which the same computer, working flat out at the same rate, would take to reach the target phrase if it were forced to use the other procedure of single-step selection: about a million million million million million years. This is more than a million million million times as long as the universe has so far existed.
[So much for Dawkins’ specious argument in defense of Darwinism, which he proudly claimed, “… made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist.” (http://UncommonDescent.com) Twenty-six capital letters plus the space bar equals twenty-seven. Twenty-seven to the twenty-eighth power equals ten to the fortieth different possible combinations, of which we seek only one specifically. Dawkins admits his definition of “impossible” is 1 chance in 10 to the 40th power. This is not for all of Shakespeare’s works, but for one short sentence, and even then on a dramatically altered keyboard, not of fifty possible keys, lower case, and fifty more keys, upper case, but for only twenty-six keys, all upper case.
Of critical but neglected importance is the fact that for “selection” to occur, the intermediary produced by the random mutation MUST confer a “selective advantage” for the host organism, otherwise it will be lost. It is therefore incumbent on the advocate for Darwinism to demonstrate, in each case, what that improvement is and how it operates, every single time, without exception. This is easily done when copying short sentences, but not so easily done when originally constructing over 20,000 proteins in humans *a, the largest of which is titin, at 38,138*b amino acid residues in length. 1 out of 20 amino acids “selected” consecutively 38,138 times has a probability of 1 chance in 10 to the 49,618. This is for only one protein. Calculating for chirality, i.e. the “selection” of L amino acids instead of D amino acidsc and all peptide bonds rather than the equally probable non-peptide bondsd reduces the probability of original naturalistic synthesis to 1 chance in 10 to the 72,578. Twenty thousand more proteins to go! – John Phillip Jaeger]
a - https://www.omim.org/entry/188840\
b - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4889822/
c - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480
d - ½ to the 38,138 = 10-11,480
I received this email yesterday from Douglas Axe, Chief of Microbiology Department at Biola University:
_____________________________
• johnjaeger
Thu 9/14/2023 11:35 AM
Hi John—
Your critique of the Dawkins weasel demonstration found its way to me, and I agree with it entirely. I offered my own critique in Undeniable (p198-200). You hit the nail on the head!
Regrettably, even solid refutations of evolutionary arguments like this don’t seem to get their proponents to rethink their position. I’ve become convinced that this is because the root problem is spiritual, not scientific or intellectual.
Best regards,
Doug Axe
Douglas Axe, PhD
Rosa Endowed Chair of Molecular Biology
Professor of Computational Biology
Co-Director of Stewart Science Honors Program
School of Science, Technology & Health
Biola University
Now I'm interested in your letter to him.
It is immediately above your request for it. Post #141.
Ooops! My bad. Sometimes I don't see the things I should.
" - A large-scale 1972 study found that persons who did not attend
church were four times as likely to commit suicide than were frequent
church attenders.
- One survey of nearly 14,000 youths found that substance abuse varied
in direct proportion to strength of religious commitment. The authors
concluded that 'importance of religion' was the single best predictor of
substance abuse patterns.
- Several studies have found that alcohol abuse is highest among those
with little or no religious commitment.
- Religious people recover from surgery more quickly than do their
atheistic and agnostic counterparts.
- A number of studies have found a strong inverse correlation between
church attendance and divorce.
- A 1978 study found that church attendance predicted marital
satisfaction better than any other single variable.
- Very religious women report greater happiness and satisfaction with
marital sex.
In short, the burden of both clinical experience and the research data
suggests that among the most important determinants of human happiness
and psychological well-being are our spiritual beliefs and moral
choices."
God: The Evidence, by Patrick Glynn
The previous post is not shown as that individual is on my Ignore List.
"Go from the presence of a foolish man." - Proverbs I believe
"The lion does not turn around when a small dog barks." - Nigerian Proverb
Now on this Thanksgiving Day, to WHOM will all atheists give thanks? We do not thank luck. We do not thank money.
We thank friends, we thank family, and we thank Almighty God, Nature's God. And so today, atheists must make up something
inane they give "thanks" to. How unfortunate for them. How empty.
I could have sworn I started a thread on the global warming fraud but I am unable to find it. What a great improvement it would be to have a link to Threads Started under everyone's profile.
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show Posts
Everything you post is on your profile page under Show PostsAlmost everyone has so many posts it would take weeks to sift through all of them.
In case anyone is confused. Trump supporters do not worship Trump.
It has never been about a man. It has always been about an idea.
We support free speech, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and America.
We support freedom, not san. We are not Trump supporters we are freedom
supporters and that will never change. It doesn't matter who is in charge.
We will never be silenced.
“My dear, I used to think I was serving humanity . . . and I pleasured in the thought. Then I discovered that humanity does not want to be served; on the contrary it resents any attempt to serve it. So now I do what pleases myself.”
― Robert A. Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land
Sorry @ChemEngrMBA
Perhaps, I'll just go look for another Heinlein quote more in tune to this Thread that won't pizz ya off.
Even though Heinlein published 32 novels, 59 short stories, and 16 collections during his life. Nine films, two television series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game have been derived more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers' SF short stories.
He really didn't have a lot to say.
Sorry @ChemEngrMBA
Perhaps, I'll just go look for another Heinlein quote more in tune to this Thread that won't pizz ya off.
Even though Heinlein published 32 novels, 59 short stories, and 16 collections during his life. Nine films, two television series, several episodes of a radio series, and a board game have been derived more or less directly from his work. He wrote a screenplay for one of the films. Heinlein edited an anthology of other writers' SF short stories.
He really didn't have a lot to say.
A lot of people had things to say.... of very little value, except to entertain certain segments of earth's very diverse population.
All of those published works and if this was the most profound quote available from him, he clearly lacked wisdom and had nothing to read I could possibly care about.
Take that author of sorcerers and faraway castles, please. I did not read a single page and never will. Reality is of far greater interest to me and the quote of Heinlein you posted was very far from reality.
It's a cookbook!
A lot of people had things to say.... of very little value, except to entertain certain segments of earth's very diverse population.Pity. Many lessons are told as parables, often using fiction as the delivery device.
All of those published works and if this was the most profound quote available from him, he clearly lacked wisdom and had nothing to read I could possibly care about.
Take that author of sorcerers and faraway castles, please. I did not read a single page and never will. Reality is of far greater interest to me and the quote of Heinlein you posted was very far from reality.
"Experts and the educated elite have...replaced what worked with
what sounded good. Society was far more civilized before they took
over our schools, prisons, welfare programs, police departments
and courts. It's high time we ran these people out of our lives
and went back to common sense." --Walter Williams
@ChemEngrMBA
The problem with that is "common sense" ain't so common anymore.
Assuming,of course,that politicians who have to "cut deals" to get legislation passed that will get them re-elected,even based their voting decisions on common sense to start with.
"Professional Politcs" is a VERY "hard-ball game".
"I say unequivocally that the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt!" - Sir Lionel Luckhoo, listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the most successful attorney in history
@ChemEngrMBA
Well,if ya can't trust a lawyer to tell the truth,who CAN you trust,right?
He IS right, and telling the historical truth @sneakypete
@roamer_1
Uh,huh.
@sneakypete
Uh huh. And if you think otherwise, your ignorance of history is showing.
@roamer_1
I guess you still believe in Santa,too?
After all,HE is a historical figure.
@sneakypete
Why yes I do... by a far more ancient name... and he ain't something I mess with.
@roamer_1
This is America,and you are free to believe anything you want to believe,as long as it doesn't cause harm to anyone else.
Of course,that will probably change if you do what you say you will do and not vote if Trump is the candidate.
You can PROBABLY hold prayer meetings in the labor camp,comrade.
@sneakypete
It ain't mere belief. It is the evidence of history that convinced me, from the start... History that you are ignorant of.
I wonder if that will be like when I was housebound for over a year, and my business destroyed because of Tumpy...
Sounds pretty much the same to me. So hell no, Tumpy will never see a vote from me.
@roamer_1
Ahhh,so your business failed,and you are blaming it on Trump because NONE of your decisions and/or the economic climate at that time had ANYTHING to do with the failure.
Gotcha!
That's true. He shut it OFF. He did that. He shut down the ports, and restricted interstate shipping. Without that, parts systems ground to a dead stop. No one else did that. That was an administrative decision, entirely federal, using federal authority over ports and ports of entry.
Especially from China because of HIS exclusive foreign policy.
No two ways about it.
He did that, with Fauxi right by his side.
I am but one example among thousands that lost their livelihood, being 'nonessential'.
No way in hell that should be rewarded. Ever.
@roamer_1
Thank you for the explanation.
Your anger now makes sense,even if there was a reason or reasons behind it that you wern't/aren't aware of at that time.
Nothing personal towards you,but I PERSONALLY find it impossible to have any sympathy for anyone who was doing business with China,and lost out.
Not only is the Chinese government probably THE most evil government in existence today,but they seem to think they SHOULD be controlling the world world by turning all the other nations into vassal nations of their slave state.
@sneakypete
No, my anger is not limited to my own loss, and I have not made that the center of my argument, even though it is plain. It is the loss of liberty that is the root. and the destruction of Conservatism, with all you monkeys cheering it on. That's your guy.
Look, that has to be about the most moronic statement I have ever heard.
I'm a pooter tech. That's what I do. ALL chips are out of China or Taiwan. There is literally NO WAY to fix computers without doing business with China. I work with American companies, and American parts systems, but where do they have to buy from? From the only place to get chips and boards.
And it's the same damn thing for smalls parts and automotive.
So KMA, you and your ordainments. Different story if another option was provided first. Different story if you encourage chip manufacturing in the states first, get em up and running and THEN shut off China... But no, just shut it all OFF.
Dummass. Where do you think the parts are going to come from now?
@roamer_1
Yeah,YOU were helping to enrich the most dangerous police state in the world,and it's the fault of people like me that YOU are out of work.
Did it ever occur to you to earn your living by working a trade that does NOT benefit the largest police state in the world?
One that is also THE most dangerous police state in the world?
And it's MY fault you are out of work,huh?
YOU are typing on a Chinese made computer or phone RIGHT NOW, Guaranteed, @sneakypete
@roamer_1
Maybe/probably. I honestly have no idea. It is a refurbished laptop I bought from Amazon for 100 bucks a few years ago.
I know that everybody has an opinion,but MINE is that if you buy something used from a re-sale sorce in the US,it is NOT the same as buying something new made in China.
That's really just splitting hairs to "score point" in an argument,though. Some people who use computers to earn their living maybe/probably have to buy brand new stuff for reasons I don't even suspectQuoteAnd then who is going to fix your computer? or your phone? Or your car that you are so proud of? Hell even your pickup... I would not have to look very far to find chinesium on your truck.
I kinda doubt it. One is a 1937 IHC pu,and the other one is a 2008 GMC diesel 3/4 ton 4x4,that I also bought used.
I do confess to buying a new 4 cylinder Toyota Camry a couple of years ago because the price of gas and diesel fuel got so insanely high that I figured something that gets right at 40 MPG would be the way to go. Especially since I was making round trips of about 100 miles 3 times a week to attend a wound clinic and get my bandages changed. Only go once a week now,and my legs are MUCH better. One is 100 percent healed,and the other is almost healed. When you consider that everyone else,including the VA,wanted to amputate my left leg starting in the early 70's,it borders on amazing.
VERY comfortable and economical little car,even though it wasn't cheap to buy. NO automobile or truck is cheap to buy anymore that is new,or even close to new. The Toyota cost me right at 28 grand,which still almost puts me into shock when I think of it. My old 200,000+ mile 4cyl Ranger pu died,and a rebuilt long block would have cost me 2 grand +,with no accessories and I would still have to pay someone to do the work. Plus I needed to ride right "NOW".
Sure am looking forward to no more sponge baths,and soaking in a tub of hot water for hours.QuoteSo don't give me your bullshit. I ain't buying it. Not one bit. Your high horse is short as hell.
Pretty much what I expected to read. It's personal for you.
I kinda doubt it. One is a 1937 ICH pu,and the other one is a 2008 GMC diesel 3/4 ton 4x4,that I also bought used.
I do confess to buying a new 4 cylinder Toyota Camry a couple of years ago because the price of gas and diesel fuel got so insanely high that I figured something that gets right at 40 MPG would be the way to go. Especially since I was making round trips of about 100 miles 3 times a week to attend a wound clinic and get my bandages changed. Only go once a week now,and my legs are MUCH better. One is 100 percent healed,and the other is almost healed. When you consider that everyone else,including the VA,wanted to amputate my left leg starting in the early 70's,it borders on amazing.
Sure am looking forward to no more sponge baths,and soaking in a tub of hot water for hours.
Pretty much what I expected to read. It's personal for you.
Don't demean a person's profession, that's just cold dude.
Leftists and atheists choose to be neither right nor kind.
This forum is about politics,NOT religion,
I kind of liked it. Maybe you are the one with the issue?
@sneakypete
His comment referenced atheists. Are you saying that 'atheism' is a religion? Just want to be clear on what the rules are. Thanks.
Train up a child in the way he should go, And even when he is old he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6
I kind of liked it. Maybe you are the one with the issue?
Little Pete is such a stalker, harasser and whiner that he has no business being a "moderator" here.
Is he ever!
In the first place, religion has profound political implications. Take Hamas Muslims as Exhibit #1.
Atheists are Exhibit #2.
Topics in TBR include "Research, Science, Sports" and many other interests which have little or nothing to do with politics.
Little Pete is such a stalker, harasser and whiner that he has no business being a "moderator" here.
Now for my newest Thought For The Day by a friend of atheists everywhere, politics writ very, very large:
Socialism is precisely the religion which; must overwhelm Christianity. … In the new order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society. – Antonio Gramsci (1891-1937, Marxist, founder of the Italian Communist Party)
"After years of being exposed to the American media in all its forms, I've concluded that conservatives resent being lied to nearly as much as liberals hate being told the truth." --columnist Burt Prelutsky
Many "conservatives" enjoy being lied to. Otherwise, they would stop listening to the lies.
"Consider why shrinking government is moral. The more the federal government provides for people, the more it deprives them not only of their dignity, but of one of the most sacred rights.’ - Thomas Jefferson
Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words. - Proverbs 23:9
(This is why it is futile to respond to Leftists supporting abortion, millions of illegals, Hamas terrorists, transgender insanity, and Biden.)
"The success of Darwinism was accompanied by a decline in scientific integrity.My end of the affair with Darwinism, especially evolution, was the increased knowledge of paleontology, with myriad quantum leaps in organismic complexity achieved through the almost Lamarkian coalescence of multiple major advances simultaneously in some hypothetical ancestral stock. As a matter of probability, the odds are staggeringly large against even one such transition, yet we were to believe that numerous such transitions had been made on the lengthy journey from coacervate molecules to Homo sapiens.
This situation, where scientific men rally to the defence of a doctrine they are unable to define scientifically, much less demonstrate with scientific rigour, attempting to maintain its credit with the public by the suppression of criticism and the elimination of difficulties, is abnormal and undesirable in science." - Professor W. R. Thompson, Introduction to the 1956 reprint of 'The Origin of Species: The Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life'
The fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives is: Conservatives believe man was created in God’s image; liberals believe they are God. All their other behavioral tics proceed from this one irreducible minimum.
… They can lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. - Treason, by Ann Coulter, page 292
An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.
America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
I have a lot of thyme on my hands.....One of the bottles must be leaking. :shrug:
America is like a healthy body, and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.” – Joseph Stalin
I would have to say that is the truth but would add...faith in the available information and the understanding that it could change as more data is received.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Benjamin Franklin
The widespread support of Hamas terrorists by people living in America is evil, despicable and cowardly. - John Phillip Jaeger
“Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible.” - Simon Newcomb, 1902 (Astronomer, Professor of Mathematics for US Navy and polymath, eighteen months before Kitty Hawk.)
It is the arrogance of every generation to assume that everything that can be invented or accomplished has already been invented or accomplished.
A few years after this man declared aircraft to be an impossibility the mainstream of "rational" people were denouncing the advent of rocketry as quackery and saying that only fools would take it seriously.
In our time the naysayers reflexively crap on every new thing that comes along only to eventually embrace them and then act as if they supported it all along.
Small minds.
The current example I lean into are the people who yuck it up at any mention of UFO/UAP issues. Even though there are now reputable people with tangible evidence such as radar tracks and Pentagon-confirmed video and images they can't help but ridicule and blather about 'aliens'.
Myself, I am convinced the things are real. But I assume an earthly origin, perhaps our own government.
The U2 and SR-71 spyplanes used to be secret and people who sighted them were denounced as cranks or nuts even though they'd seen something quite real.
So it wouldn't surprise me if a branch of the military has these things and they get accidentally sighted on occasion.
But the small minds who have to automatically react to these reports? They'll one day join the ranks of other small minds like Simon Newcomb.
I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above. - Karl Marx
Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of communism. - Vladimir Lenin
Have you ever been totally combobulated? Of course not! The very thought is ridiculous, right?
This is the first photograph ever taken of a "non-water vapor contrail," a phrase I coined:
Last I checked blood and flesh are composed of mostly water.
How clever of you.
Try adding information or thoughtfulness in your remarks, instead of cheap snark like that.
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@MeganC loves cheap snarks. But I like her because she puts very thoughtful posts out there...I think on this thread in fact. Plus, I think she likes Kittehs.
"Lighten up!"
@MeganC loves cheap snarks. But I like her because she puts very thoughtful posts out there...I think on this thread in fact. Plus, I think she likes Kittehs.
"Lighten up!"
That cheap snark was NOT a "thoughtful post." It was foolish and petty.
Chill. I'm pretty sure it's not the worst thing you'll ever see me write.
Chill. I'm pretty sure it's not the worst thing you'll ever see me write.
Apologize. I was right and you know it.
Or does apologizing take more character than you can demonstrate?
No. I posted a flatly factual comment and you got all dramatic about it. What I said is a sound hypothesis for why the bullet contrail was so visible.
The drama? That's all you.
I'll stand by that. Proposing a statement of fact is simple enough to counter - Supply an argument against the thing... I sure as hell don't understand all the whining and crybaby crap. :shrug:
No. I posted a flatly factual comment and you got all dramatic about it. What I said is a sound hypothesis for why the bullet contrail was so visible.
The drama? That's all you.
FYI, that was me being snarky. 333cleo
@ChemEngrMBA
Can we get back to your usual posts now? Snark aside, I rather enjoy your daily posts.
Sadly it seems this series of enriching posts has ended. That's truly a shame.
Thoughts for the Day by Mark Twain:
No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot
Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason.
Life is short, Break the Rules. Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly. Love truly. Laugh uncontrollably And never regret ANYTHING That makes you smile.
I was educated once - it took me years to get over it.
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see.
If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.
Good friends, good books, and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life.
The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.
Never put off till tomorrow what may be done day after tomorrow just as well.
The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.
A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.
Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great.
Don’t go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.
I am posting more than one quote from various people so as to impart a better assessment of the author's character.
I know this started as one quote from one person but I have been inspired to look up many of these people and see what else they had to say. Along the way I got a better picture of who they were or are. I hope to convey this as I go along. happy77
Thoughts For The Day by President George Washington:
A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.
It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one.
It is better to be alone than in bad company.
If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
A primary object should be the education of our youth in the science of government. In a republic, what species of knowledge can be equally important? And what duty more pressing than communicating it to those who are to be the future guardians of the liberties of the country?
Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. True friendship is a plant of slow growth, and must undergo and withstand the shocks of adversity before it is entitled to appellation.
Human happiness and moral duty are inseparably connected.
However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
99% of failures come from people who make excuses.
I hope I shall possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most enviable of all titles, the character of an honest man.
Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire called conscience.
Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages.
A sensible woman can never be happy with a fool.
Few men have virtue to withstand the highest bidder.
"This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong. And such a people, deprived of the power to think and judge, is, without knowing and willing it, completely subjected to the rule of lies. With such a people, you can do whatever you want." -Hannah Arendt
"This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore. A people that can no longer distinguish between truth and lies cannot distinguish between right and wrong. And such a people, deprived of the power to think and judge, is, without knowing and willing it, completely subjected to the rule of lies. With such a people, you can do whatever you want." -Hannah Arendt
Today's Thought For The Day is actually in the form of a discussion between free market economist Milton Friedman and socialist agitator Phil Donahue.
This comes to us courtesy of @mountaineer wink777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pMbkPuulKk
Today's Thoughts For The Day are from Grace Kelly
(Hat tip to @deb :seeya: )
My father had a very simple view on life: you don’t get anything for nothing. Everything has to be earned, through work, persistence and honesty.
I never say ‘never,’ and I never say ‘always.
It was thanks to Alfred Hitchcock that I understood that murder scenes should be shot like love scenes and love scenes like murder scenes.
For to have complete satisfaction from flowers you must have time to spend with them.
The freedom of the press works in such a way that there is not much freedom from it.
Emancipation of women has made them lose their mystery.
I came to success very quickly. Perhaps too quickly to value it’s importance.
Women's natural role is to be a pillar of the family.
I never really liked Hollywood. I found it unreal - unreal and full of men and women whose lives were confused and full of pain.
Thanks, MeganC.
I made the mistake of reading a biography of Grace. Did not paint her in a good light at all. I choose to ignore what I read. happy77
He quit posting entirely 6/24. :shrug:
C.S. Lewis was a world-class literary critic. When reading the gospels, he noted:
I have been reading poems, romances, vision literature, legends, and myths all my life. I know what they are like. I know none of them are like this. – The Reason for God - Belief in an Age of Skepticism, by Timothy Keller, p 106
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C.S. Lewis was correct about a lot of things! I knew he was on to something when a leftist former friend said "Lewis was an idiot!"