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Title: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 10:58:08 am
Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Fox5/DC; Aug 16, 2017

BALTIMORE - Contractors in Baltimore have removed several of the city's Confederate statues overnight.

The Robert E. Lee and “Stonewall” Jackson monument in Wyman Park Dell was removed early Wednesday morning.

The Confederate Women's Monument on West University Parkway was removed overnight as was the Roger Taney Monument from Mount Vernon Place. Taney was a Supreme Court justice who ruled African-Americans could not be considered citizens of the U.S.

It is unclear if and when the city’s remaining Confederate statue - the Confederate Soldiers and Sailors Monument on Mount Royal Avenue - is scheduled for removal.

A commission appointed by former Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake recommended removing two of four Confederate-era monuments in 2015. On Monday, Baltimore's City Council made the decision to remove them.

Current Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh said she wanted the statues to be placed in Confederate cemeteries elsewhere in Maryland.

In an effort to prevent the kind violence seen in Virginia on Saturday when white nationalists came to Charlottesville to protest the removal of a statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee, Pugh did not announce when the statues would be removed.

On Tuesday, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan has called for the removal of a statue of Justice Roger B. Taney from the grounds of the State House.


http://www.fox5dc.com/news/274114014-story
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 10:58:23 am
Photos at link.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Crazieman on August 16, 2017, 11:00:15 am
The Talibanning of History rolls on.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm dreaming this and fell asleep drooling on my classic dystopian novels.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 11:11:28 am
Fox is reporting that the Baltimore Town Council has decided to destroy the statues rather than move them to Confederate cemeteries.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 11:44:39 am
"First they came for the Confederate Statues......"
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on August 16, 2017, 11:55:32 am
Great. I'm sure Baltimore will become a wonderful place to live because of this.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 12:16:43 pm
They're moving to Indianapolis.

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4332b05c0557cd0b5605d2cfa2ea7714c85c32dd/c=15-22-1349-1023&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/03/29//1396111387000-F17-Indianapolis-burn-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on August 16, 2017, 12:45:40 pm
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Title: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: mystery-ak on August 16, 2017, 01:53:57 pm
 By Maria Stainer - The Washington Times - Wednesday, August 16, 2017

Workers in Baltimore removed four of the city’s Confederate monuments in the early hours on Wednesday, days after many residents took to the streets to protest a white nationalist rally in Virginia that left three dead and many injured.

Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh said Tuesday the monuments should come down, telling WBAL “let’s get it done,” but she didn’t want to say when.

The Baltimore City Council unanimously passed a resolution Monday to remove the monuments, WTOP reported.

“They [council members] could have started this back in August of last year, but of course nothing got done,” Ms. Pugh told WBAL. “So, here I am, you know, I will get it done, and I have already asked contractors to look at how quickly we can move them and at what cost we would have to remove them at and I have even asked for donations and volunteers if they want to help us in that process.”

more
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/16/baltimore-removes-confederate-monuments-overnight/
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: edpc on August 16, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
Are they on their way to Indianapolis?
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 02:36:56 pm
This is only the beginning.  The momentum is with the left, and those cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects are doing a fine job of helping them along. 

There are already demands that the New York Museum take down the statue of racist Theodore Roosevelt.  It won't be long before the focus shifts to those slave-owning Founders.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 02:42:58 pm
This is only the beginning.  The momentum is with the left, and those cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects are doing a fine job of helping them along. 

There are already demands that the New York Museum take down the statue of racist Theodore Roosevelt.  It won't be long before the focus shifts to those slave-owning Founders.

The momentum is with the left because no one wants to be called a racist. Which is what happens to anyone who stands in their way.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 02:48:32 pm
Are they on their way to Indianapolis?

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/4332b05c0557cd0b5605d2cfa2ea7714c85c32dd/c=15-22-1349-1023&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2014/03/29//1396111387000-F17-Indianapolis-burn-02.jpg)


Guess they'll have to change "Mayflower" too, since those were associated with the Pilgrims, who massacred those poor innocent Native Americans.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: XenaLee on August 16, 2017, 02:48:43 pm
The momentum is only with the left right now because nobody on the right is, thus far, standing UP to them.  Just wait...
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 04:38:15 pm
Can these threads be merged?  Thanks.  @Machiavelli

 http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,277003.0.html
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Fishrrman on August 16, 2017, 04:40:21 pm
Don't like history?
Then... just erase it!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Voroshilov%2C_Molotov%2C_Stalin%2C_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg/300px-Voroshilov%2C_Molotov%2C_Stalin%2C_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bd/The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg/300px-The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Fishrrman on August 16, 2017, 04:52:40 pm
Catherine wrote:
"This is only the beginning.  The momentum is with the left, and those cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects are doing a fine job of helping them along."

Utter nonsense.

Those "cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects" are -- so far -- the only ones willing to actually go out, assemble and publicly protest the left's agenda. Remember that the theme of the alt-right's assembly in Charlottesville was to defend the existence of the Civil War monument there.

Even so-called "respectable Republicans" in a position to speak out against the antifada are cowering and running.

The left is trying to force the issue into overdrive -- and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at it.
If this attempt to erase existing history and replace it with a leftist-rewritten version isn't stopped, they will certainly win.

And the "mainstream Republican" factions are proving that they're as ineffective in opposing such a putsch as are the "mainstream parties" of Western Europe are in trying to oppose the islamic invasion that's going on there. They hide behind carefully composed weasel words that tumble from their mealy mouths.

It's like Florence Reece, the wife of a union organizer for coal miners, wrote 'way back in 1931:
They say in Harlan County
There are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man
Or a thug for J.H. Blair
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?


When it comes down to this struggle, and I'm forced to choose, I know which side I'm on.

Do you?
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 04:56:09 pm
Robert E. Lee:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C0CE800000578-4795740-A_monument_to_Robert_E_Lee_commander_of_the_pro_slavery_Confeder-a-37_1502889710024.jpg)

Confederate Women of Maryland:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434BEA4F00000578-4795740-Workers_were_spotted_removing_a_monument_dedicated_to_the_Confed-a-27_1502888775641.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C09AA00000578-4795740-Only_the_base_of_the_Robert_E_Lee_and_Thomas_Stonewall_Jackson_r-a-29_1502888775799.jpg)




More photos here:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4795740/Four-Confederate-monuments-removed-Baltimore.html




Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 04:57:44 pm
Robert E. Lee:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C0CE800000578-4795740-A_monument_to_Robert_E_Lee_commander_of_the_pro_slavery_Confeder-a-37_1502889710024.jpg)

Confederate Women of Maryland:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434BEA4F00000578-4795740-Workers_were_spotted_removing_a_monument_dedicated_to_the_Confed-a-27_1502888775641.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/16/14/434C09AA00000578-4795740-Only_the_base_of_the_Robert_E_Lee_and_Thomas_Stonewall_Jackson_r-a-29_1502888775799.jpg)




More photos here:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4795740/Four-Confederate-monuments-removed-Baltimore.html


Stay classy, Antifas.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on August 16, 2017, 05:18:14 pm
Beautiful monuments, what's happening to them?
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 16, 2017, 05:22:36 pm
Beautiful monuments, what's happening to them?

There was talk of moving them to Confederate cemeteries.  But, that plan was thrown out.  As of this morning, the decision was to destroy the statues.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on August 16, 2017, 05:26:19 pm
There was talk of moving them to Confederate cemeteries.  But, that plan was thrown out.  As of this morning, the decision was to destroy the statues.

That is terrible IMO.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 05:26:24 pm
There was talk of moving them to Confederate cemeteries.  But, that plan was thrown out.  As of this morning, the decision was to destroy the statues.

This will not end on its own. It will have to be stopped.

Allowing this ridiculousness makes stopping it that much more difficult.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: edpc on August 16, 2017, 05:38:21 pm
Allowing this ridiculousness makes stopping it that much more difficult.

Waiting for the gates of Graceland to be stormed for Elvis' cultural appropriation.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 06:01:08 pm
Waiting for the gates of Graceland to be stormed for Elvis' cultural appropriation.

Oh boy.  That would be bloodshed.   
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 06:03:23 pm
Waiting for the gates of Graceland to be stormed for Elvis' cultural appropriation.

Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant ___, to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother ____, him and John Wayne

Public Enemy, "Fight the Power"
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 06:05:23 pm
Racism in the larger picture was almost dead until Obama was elected.  This is his legacy.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: GtHawk on August 16, 2017, 06:44:01 pm
There was talk of moving them to Confederate cemeteries.  But, that plan was thrown out.  As of this morning, the decision was to destroy the statues.
This will escalate, I bet not far down the road we see memorials to Black leaders being destroyed in retaliation and if not intentional, it will still be the result of short sighted hatred on the left. What can future generations possibly learn when the past history of America is being destroyed? But then again I guess this is a logical extension of the brain and history washing that has been going on in our schools for decades, as the gays have been glorified, Whites have been increasingly demonized. They want all Whites, those that don't pander to them to just say (http://i39.tinypic.com/zx2p1k.jpg) and kill themselves.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 06:52:16 pm
The momentum is with the left because no one wants to be called a racist. Which is what happens to anyone who stands in their way.

@skeeter

True.  No matter how far it goes, I doubt there will be an effort to stop it.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 06:55:50 pm
Catherine wrote:
"This is only the beginning.  The momentum is with the left, and those cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects are doing a fine job of helping them along."

Utter nonsense.

Those "cousin-marrying white supremacist rejects" are -- so far -- the only ones willing to actually go out, assemble and publicly protest the left's agenda. Remember that the theme of the alt-right's assembly in Charlottesville was to defend the existence of the Civil War monument there.

Even so-called "respectable Republicans" in a position to speak out against the antifada are cowering and running.

The left is trying to force the issue into overdrive -- and they seem to be doing a pretty good job at it.
If this attempt to erase existing history and replace it with a leftist-rewritten version isn't stopped, they will certainly win.

And the "mainstream Republican" factions are proving that they're as ineffective in opposing such a putsch as are the "mainstream parties" of Western Europe are in trying to oppose the islamic invasion that's going on there. They hide behind carefully composed weasel words that tumble from their mealy mouths.

It's like Florence Reece, the wife of a union organizer for coal miners, wrote 'way back in 1931:
They say in Harlan County
There are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man
Or a thug for J.H. Blair
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?


When it comes down to this struggle, and I'm forced to choose, I know which side I'm on.

Do you?


@Fishrrman

I'm not on the side of the left and I'm not on the side of those cousin-marrying, white supremacist rejects with their Nazi flags and salutes.  Is that clear enough for you?  How do you like it?

Defend that filth if you want, but don't try to sell them to me.



Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Fishrrman on August 16, 2017, 07:11:06 pm
Catherine wrote:
"True.  No matter how far it goes, I doubt there will be an effort to stop it."

BZZZZT!
There IS "an effort to stop it", and it's going on right now.
That's what the rally in Charlottesville was about (or does no one remember that less than a week later?).

The real issue for traditionally-minded Americans is whether to support that effort or not.

Most will shirk away from doing so, because they find the people who ARE making an effort to stop the left reprehensible (or whatever other words they choose to employ to quantify their displeasure that others "so low" might be willing to do what they're afraid to do).

If "respectable Republicans" want to do something, they should literally co-opt the alt-right and steal their issues, which are THE SAME issues that many folks in this forum get upset about when they see news stories posted about same (as this one is).

In Charlottesville, the alt-right held a rally to preserve what America has traditionally been about, recognizing and respecting history. They were generally peaceable (notwithstanding the metal-case 20-year-old car attacker who will face the jury). The disruption -- the attack on historical traditions and values -- CAME FROM THE LEFT. And yet again and again, right here, I've been reading how the rightists shouldn't have been granted a permit to assemble, how loathesome they are, etc., etc.

Well, that's how it goes. Sometimes in a struggle, it's those on the fringe that make the waves and draw the attention first.

If traditional-minded Americans hope to win this war with the antifada, they'd best get on the line and push those KKK deplorables aside.

Otherwise, we're going to go here to a fate not so-much-removed as the white/Christians of Western Europe are facing.

And it's going to happen faster than anyone could believe possible...
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on August 16, 2017, 07:18:54 pm
@Fishrrman

I'm not on the side of the left and I'm not on the side of those cousin-marrying, white supremacist rejects with their Nazi flags and salutes.  Is that clear enough for you?  How do you like it?

Defend that filth if you want, but don't try to sell them to me.

If we have to be on one side or the other, I wonder how DCPatriot, RiV, aligncare feel about being lumped in with white supremacists by Fisherman here.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 07:19:23 pm
Catherine wrote:
"True.  No matter how far it goes, I doubt there will be an effort to stop it."

BZZZZT!
There IS "an effort to stop it", and it's going on right now.
That's what the rally in Charlottesville was about (or does no one remember that less than a week later?).

The real issue for traditionally-minded Americans is whether to support that effort or not.

Most will shirk away from doing so, because they find the people who ARE making an effort to stop the left reprehensible (or whatever other words they choose to employ to quantify their displeasure that others "so low" might be willing to do what they're afraid to do).

If "respectable Republicans" want to do something, they should literally co-opt the alt-right and steal their issues, which are THE SAME issues that many folks in this forum get upset about when they see news stories posted about same (as this one is).

In Charlottesville, the alt-right held a rally to preserve what America has traditionally been about, recognizing and respecting history. They were generally peaceable (notwithstanding the metal-case 20-year-old car attacker who will face the jury). The disruption -- the attack on historical traditions and values -- CAME FROM THE LEFT. And yet again and again, right here, I've been reading how the rightists shouldn't have been granted a permit to assemble, how loathesome they are, etc., etc.

Well, that's how it goes. Sometimes in a struggle, it's those on the fringe that make the waves and draw the attention first.

If traditional-minded Americans hope to win this war with the antifada, they'd best get on the line and push those KKK deplorables aside.

Otherwise, we're going to go here to a fate not so-much-removed as the white/Christians of Western Europe are facing.

And it's going to happen faster than anyone could believe possible...

@Fishrrman

So go march with the Nazis and tell yourself they're "traditionally minded Americans."  Maybe they'll let you hand out some of their Jew-hating literature.

You're a fool and a disgrace.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 07:23:10 pm
If we have to be on one side or the other, I wonder how DCPatriot, RiV, aligncare feel about being lumped in with white supremacists by Fisherman here.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

Interesting question.  A couple of these nightcrawlers are whipping out their Nazi flags and flying them with no shame.  It's stunning.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: catfish1957 on August 16, 2017, 07:25:52 pm
Catherine wrote:
"True.  No matter how far it goes, I doubt there will be an effort to stop it."

BZZZZT!


The real issue for traditionally-minded Americans is whether to support that effort or not.



Sadly, the KKK and White Nationalist have hijacked what is a very important issue to me......   Preserving southern heritage and honoring our confederate dead.   

The only way we can truly fight is somehow get SCV and  reenactors to mobilize good common folk and have these good honorable folks  fight the slimeballs on both sides.  Until this issue is decoupled from the racist element, we are destined to lose.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 07:29:07 pm
Sadly, the KKK and White Nationalist have hijacked what is a very important issue to me......   Preserving southern heritage and honoring our confederate dead.   
 

That's the Alinsky Way.  Take reasonable Conservative stances, and poison them with associations to Nazis and the KKK.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: txradioguy on August 16, 2017, 07:29:32 pm
"Do you realize that the past, starting from yesterday, has been actually abolished? If it survives anywhere, it's in a few solid objects with no words attached to them, like that lump of glass there. Already we know almost literally nothing about the Revolution and the years before the Revolution. Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. ~ George Orwell 1984
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: txradioguy on August 16, 2017, 07:35:55 pm
@Fishrrman

I'm not on the side of the left and I'm not on the side of those cousin-marrying, white supremacist rejects with their Nazi flags and salutes.  Is that clear enough for you?  How do you like it?

Defend that filth if you want, but don't try to sell them to me.

@CatherineofAragon well said!
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: TomSea on August 16, 2017, 07:39:14 pm

Another Confederate Statue Is Taken Down.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHVZ2aXXYAAx3NA.jpg)
https://twitter.com/larryelder

 000hehehehe
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: catfish1957 on August 16, 2017, 07:41:53 pm
Another Confederate Statue Is Taken Down.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHVZ2aXXYAAx3NA.jpg)
https://twitter.com/larryelder

 000hehehehe

I really can't find any humor in making light of this.  Of course, this is about what I expect of you.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: TomSea on August 16, 2017, 07:49:24 pm
I really can't find any humor in making light of this.  Of course, this is about what I expect of you.

Larry Elder tweeted it, I relayed it. I'm glad he's on my side. Perhaps some have objections to that. Maybe some are not familiar with him.

(http://cdn.saleminteractivemedia.com/206/content/54723/larry-elder-photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: TomSea on August 16, 2017, 08:05:57 pm
Quote
Dinesh D'Souza‏Verified account @DineshDSouza Aug 12

Maybe if Democrats admitted their 150 year history of bigotry & apologized for it this country can begin to heal its divide #Charlottesville
1,099 replies 7,669 retweets 14,000 likes

Never forget, this is a Democratic thing too; but I'm sure Dinesh D'Souza will be another "conservative" criticized along with Rush and Larry Elder.  :pondering:
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 08:13:57 pm
Another Confederate Statue Is Taken Down.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHVZ2aXXYAAx3NA.jpg)
https://twitter.com/larryelder

 000hehehehe

Looks like one of them Chinamen KFC locations.
Title: Re: Baltimore removes Confederate monuments overnight
Post by: Silver Pines on August 16, 2017, 08:36:01 pm
@CatherineofAragon well said!

@txradioguy, thank you.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 08:57:33 pm
Waiting for the gates of Graceland to be stormed for Elvis' cultural appropriation.

Not worried. The dogs there not only play cards, they'll keep out the riffraff too.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Fishrrman on August 16, 2017, 10:21:16 pm
catfish wrote:
"Sadly, the KKK and White Nationalist have hijacked what is a very important issue to me......   Preserving southern heritage and honoring our confederate dead.   
The only way we can truly fight is somehow get SCV and  reenactors to mobilize good common folk and have these good honorable folks  fight the slimeballs on both sides.  Until this issue is decoupled from the racist element, we are destined to lose."


You got the gist of what I was writing about in post 30 above.

Catherine, and a few others here, didn't.
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: txradioguy on August 16, 2017, 11:13:37 pm
What are these idiots going to do when they realize that the Mason-Dixon line is in Maryland?
Title: Re: Confederate statues in Baltimore removed overnight
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 11:20:21 pm
What are these idiots going to do when they realize that the Mason-Dixon line is in Maryland?
It wasn't taught in school when they dropped out.