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Title: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: rangerrebew on June 24, 2023, 07:49:51 pm
 
There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Story by AutoGuide.com Staff • 2h ago

 
A recent study conducted by the AAA Automotive Engineering research team has shed light on an important aspect of electric vehicles (EVs). The research findings indicate that EVs experience a significant reduction in range when loaded with heavy cargo. In particular, the study examined the Ford F-150 Lightning, a popular electric pickup truck, and revealed that its range decreased by 24.5% when carrying 1,400 pounds of sandbags, stopping just short of its maximum capacity. This discovery emphasizes the importance of understanding the limitations of EVs and aims to alleviate concerns surrounding range anxiety among potential EV owners.

The Study's Findings
The AAA study conducted extensive testing on the Ford F-150 Lightning and found that when loaded with 1,400 pounds of sandbags, the vehicle's range decreased from 278 miles to 210 miles. This reduction in range highlights the impact of excess weight on the performance of EVs, reinforcing the understanding that hauling heavy cargo requires more energy to move.

Greg Brannon, the director of AAA Automotive Engineering, acknowledged the significance of the range reduction but emphasized that the majority of buyers are likely to use their vehicles with lighter loads, resulting in a smaller decrease in range. Therefore, while the study's findings are noteworthy, it's important to consider real-world usage scenarios when evaluating the impact on EV range.

Driving Behavior and Physics

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Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 08:17:58 pm
IOW, if you have work to do, get a diesel. If you are virtue signalling and waving your pickup (one that may never leave pavement). EVs are great! Yadda, yadda, yadda...and they never once mentioned running the heater in even modest (above zero) cold. Considering a 4-man work crew can easily run 800-1000 lbs, that doesn't leave much weight for gear, tools, or materials.

Real work trucks still have to get the job done, haul stuff, and work past the pavement's end. For that, gasoline or diesel will remain the fuels of choice.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 09:23:15 pm
when carrying 1,400 pounds of sandbags, stopping just short of its maximum capacity.



*snort*

That sure as hell ain't a yard of gravel. Nor two pallets of grain. Nor a cord and a half of wood hauled out on 25 miles of 4wd only two track, just to hit the highway to get home.

That ain't a truck. Heck I'd do all that with the truck out in the yard, and it's a heavy half.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 09:27:21 pm

*snort*

That sure as hell ain't a yard of gravel. Nor two pallets of grain. Nor a cord and a half of wood hauled out on 25 miles of 4wd only two track, just to hit the highway to get home.

That ain't a truck. Heck I'd do all that with the truck out in the yard, and it's a heavy half.
Want to bet they did it without lights, heater, and definitely without an AM radio...
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 09:30:18 pm
Want to bet they did it without lights, heater, and definitely without an AM radio...

But it WAS 80 degrees or better, right? On a flat track?  :silly:
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 09:34:06 pm
But it WAS 80 degrees or better, right? On a flat track?  :silly:
On a flat, paved track, no less.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 09:38:18 pm
On a flat, paved track, no less.

It sure as heck ain't no truck.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 09:40:31 pm
It sure as heck ain't no truck.
Well, at least the batteries are included... :shrug:
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 09:43:12 pm
Well, at least the batteries are included... :shrug:

LOL! Yeah... My kids like that.  :beer:
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: bigheadfred on June 24, 2023, 09:45:35 pm
Want to bet they did it without lights, heater, and definitely without an AM radio...
@Smokin Joe  @roamer_1

No AC

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,503741.msg2855517.html#msg2855517

Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 09:46:54 pm
@Smokin Joe  @roamer_1

No AC

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,503741.msg2855517.html#msg2855517
You didn't expect people who have never broken an honest sweat to think of that, did you?
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 10:04:24 pm
Ain't even talked about the sawbox yet - I don't know what it weighs, but there is no way two strong men are gonna pick that up and carry it off...  That's just my pickup's EDC

Not to mention all the stuff stuffed in the hidey holes in the cab too.. That's all BEFORE the load.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 24, 2023, 10:05:20 pm
Ain't even talked about the sawbox yet - I don't know what it weighs, but there is no way two strong men are gonna pick that up and carry it off...  That's just my pickup's EDC

Not to mention all the stuff stuffed in the hidey holes in the cab too.. That's all BEFORE the load.
Yep. You know it didn't have half the stuff a working truck has on board from day to day.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: bigheadfred on June 24, 2023, 10:33:08 pm
The F150 has always been a city truck. In addition to its reduction when hauling a load, I want to see the reduction when towing a load. There are no immediate future plans for a EV F250.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: roamer_1 on June 24, 2023, 10:45:57 pm
There are no immediate future plans for a EV F250.

Of course there's not.  :laugh:
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: sneakypete on June 24, 2023, 10:57:46 pm

There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Story by AutoGuide.com Staff • 2h ago

 
Quote
A recent study conducted by the AAA Automotive Engineering research team has shed light on an important aspect of electric vehicles (EVs). The research findings indicate that EVs experience a significant reduction in range when loaded with heavy cargo.
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@rangerrebew

Say WAT??????

Hooda thunk  hit?

Doan dey  alsew hav a xtra tank fur fairy farts,what dublies de range?
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: sneakypete on June 24, 2023, 11:11:59 pm
IOW, if you have work to do, get a diesel. If you are virtue signalling and waving your pickup (one that may never leave pavement). EVs are great! Yadda, yadda, yadda...and they never once mentioned running the heater in even modest (above zero) cold. Considering a 4-man work crew can easily run 800-1000 lbs, that doesn't leave much weight for gear, tools, or materials.

Real work trucks still have to get the job done, haul stuff, and work past the pavement's end. For that, gasoline or diesel will remain the fuels of choice.

@Smokin Joe

I still have my 06 GMC 3/4 ton long bed extended  cab pu,even though I don't drive it more than maybe once a month  now,mostly to keep everything lubed up. Has a ball hookup for a 5th wheel in the bed over  the rear axle.

Last year of the real Cummings Diesel with no  smog devices,and  a genuine 6 Speed Allison auto trans. It is a 4x4 with  3:73 gears,and it is paid for.

People are offering me stupid money to try to get me to sell it so they can pull their horse trailers and not have  to spend 70 grand for a new  one with a weaker transmission that requires a special fluid tank to drive,but I ain't selling. Who knows,my health might start to get better,and I can make  some road trips again? It's paid for and doesn't  eat anything,so no big deal about  it sitting parked.

My daily  driver is a 2022 Toyota Camry  with the  4 cylinder 200 hp engine  and  8 speed auto overdrive trans. I normally  get between 43 and 45 MPH local driving,and have gotten as  high as 53 mph on road trips on interstates.

One interesting thing I discovered is that if I run regular unleaded gas,I  get about 4 to 5 mpg less than if  I run premium.

Because of this I have discovered some gas stations  are selling regular unleaded as Premium unleaded. This is,of  course,due to the distributor selling it to the stations as premium instead of regular. Somebody in gooberment  really needs to look into this. You  couldn't tell they were doing this back in the days of 15-16 mpg cars,but you  sure can these days.
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: sneakypete on June 24, 2023, 11:14:39 pm
Well, at least the batteries are included... :shrug:

@Smokin Joe

LOL!

Good one!
Title: Re: There's a Serious Problem With Electric Pickup Trucks, New AAA Study Reveals
Post by: Idiot on June 25, 2023, 01:05:16 am
IOW, if you have work to do, get a diesel. If you are virtue signalling and waving your pickup (one that may never leave pavement). EVs are great! Yadda, yadda, yadda...and they never once mentioned running the heater in even modest (above zero) cold. Considering a 4-man work crew can easily run 800-1000 lbs, that doesn't leave much weight for gear, tools, or materials.

Real work trucks still have to get the job done, haul stuff, and work past the pavement's end. For that, gasoline or diesel will remain the fuels of choice.
You forgot the 500 lbs of iced down beer.  happy77