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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: flowers on August 07, 2014, 08:28:51 pm

Title: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: flowers on August 07, 2014, 08:28:51 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719306/Paranoid-white-Detroit-homeowner-shot-unarmed-black-teenage-girl-dead-porch-GUILTY-murder.html

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Detroit jury found Theodore Wafer, 55, guilty of the second degree murder of 19-year-old Renisha McBride
Wafer shot African American teen McBride dead outside his home after she knocked on his door asking for help
He used a shotgun and shot her in the face
McBride had been drinking and smoking marijuana before the November shooting
Prosecutors earlier said that Wafer became the 'judge, jury and executioner'
McBride's mother told the court that she wishes Wafer had dialled 911 before he opened fire
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 07, 2014, 10:40:39 pm
Not sure why the had to include race into the title - but I totally agree with the verdict.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: sinkspur on August 07, 2014, 11:20:25 pm
The verdict is the correct one.  There is no evidence this guy needed to be in fear for his life.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: musiclady on August 07, 2014, 11:24:53 pm
Not sure why the had to include race into the title - but I totally agree with the verdict.

Because everything everywhere is now about race.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: truth_seeker on August 07, 2014, 11:28:10 pm
Maybe he had been drinking and smoking marijuana, too.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: EC on August 07, 2014, 11:28:20 pm
Good. May he get 50 years.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: speekinout on August 08, 2014, 12:22:58 am
The worst part of this is that it is a good argument against gun ownership. Wafer wasn't in any category that would prevent him getting a legal gun, but he surely had horrible judgment. That situation required a call to 911. Nothing else.

I hope he gets a lengthy sentence. That might deter others who think having a gun means that it's the first option in an unknown situation.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2014, 01:23:46 am
The 911 call was all she wanted. All he had to do was yell through the door that police are on the way.
 
But, because he was drunk and stoned and had drugs in the house, he didn't want cops about the place. So, he decided to handle the situation himself.
 
He chose poorly.
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: truth_seeker on August 08, 2014, 01:27:45 am
The 911 call was all she wanted. All he had to do was yell through the door that police are on the way.
 
But, because he was drunk and stoned and had drugs in the house, he didn't want cops about the place. So, he decided to handle the situation himself.
 
He chose poorly.
You know he was drunk and stoned, and had drugs in the house? Or just guessing?

Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: Fishrrman on August 08, 2014, 01:28:16 am
Obviously, the guy is guilty.

But... remember, this is Detroit, of all places, where even the chief of police has told citizens that the police can no longer defend them and that they should arm themselves against criminals.

It is not some comfortable suburb where folks can relax.

Again, it's Detroit -- where the failure to act, and act quickly, against an intruder can turn against you just as quickly.

Just something to consider.

Also.. what time did this occur?
Wasn't it very late, after midnight?
Again, when someone's banging on your door at 1am -- in Detroit -- it's NOT likely to be anything good.

A question for you Texans:
Let's just suppose a similar scenario occurred in Texas at 1am in the morning, with similar results.
What does the law say about trespassing and protecting one's property down there?
Title: Re: 'Paranoid' white Detroit homeowner who shot unarmed black teenage girl dead on his porch is found GUILTY of murder
Post by: 240B on August 08, 2014, 01:33:44 am
You know he was drunk and stoned, and had drugs in the house? Or just guessing?

Yep, you're right. I got the two mixed up. She was the one who was drunk and stoned. However, all that does is make it a bigger mystery why he wouldn't just call the police.
 
I wonder what was wrong with him. These days, that's the first thing everyone does. I don't know what he was thinking? Maybe he was drunk and stoned too. Or had some reason not to want cops at his house. I don't know.