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General Category => Trump Legal Investigations => Topic started by: cato potatoe on August 09, 2023, 02:03:22 pm
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Trump claims Fulton County DA Fani Willis had an AFFAIR with the head of a criminal gang ahead of probable fourth indictment in Georgia he says will secure his 2024 win
By MORGAN PHILLIPS, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Donald Trump claimed the Fulton County district attorney who is expected to slap him with a fourth indictment soon is having an affair with a gang member in a wild tirade in New Hampshire on Tuesday.
'They say there's a young woman, a young racist, in Atlanta, and they say, I guess, they say she was after a certain gang, she ended up having an affair with the head of the gang or a gang member,' Trump claimed, referring to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis.
'This is a person who wants to indict me. She's got a lot of problems but she wants to indict me to try and run for some other office,' the former president went on at a campaign event in New Hampshire, 'wants to indict me for a perfect phone call. This is even better than my perfect phone call with Ukraine,' he added, referring to his call with Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12386623/Trump-claims-Fulton-County-DA-Fani-Willis-AFFAIR-head-criminal-gang-ahead-probable-fourth-indictment-Georgia-says-secure-2024-win.html
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I hope Trump has some proof, I don't know how much of a defense it is to say 'I didn't make an accusation, I was just repeating hearsay bullshit I heard' **nononono* Now what other little insulting names will he give to the DA and then whine about being treated unfairly. Yeah Trumps being targeted but he loses sympathy by acting like a three year old having a tantrum and using grade school insults and taunts.
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They say, They say it sounds like anonymous sources from MSM, which he hates and deplores.
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Get ready for the next libel suit against Mr. Trump.
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@cato potatoe
Even if proof is found,HOW will this help him in any way?
AH am no lawyur,and doan eben play wun on teebee,but ah doan see dis being aloud ta be entured inda court rekords.
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I hope Trump has some proof, I don't know how much of a defense it is to say 'I didn't make an accusation, I was just repeating hearsay bullshit I heard' **nononono* Now what other little insulting names will he give to the DA and then whine about being treated unfairly. Yeah Trumps being targeted but he loses sympathy by acting like a three year old having a tantrum and using grade school insults and taunts.
@GtHawk
He needs to save this stuff for the courtroom,and have his lawyer figure out a way to make it relevent. IF he does that,it is a MAJOR "score".
The media is NOT on his side and is NOT going to publish ANYTHING favorable to his case,but they pretty much HAVE to publish what they see and hear that is brought up in court,before the presiding judge.
THAT is where he needs to score "points" now.
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Even if proof is found,HOW will this help him in any way?
AH am no lawyur,and doan eben play wun on teebee,but ah doan see dis being aloud ta be entured inda court rekords.
She is a drama queen, and people should be skeptical of her motives, but I don't see what rumor mongering does other than to antagonize the jury pool. If Trump has proof of racial bias or unethical behavior, he might as well share it with us now.
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I hope Trump has some proof, I don't know how much of a defense it is to say 'I didn't make an accusation, I was just repeating hearsay bullshit I heard....
It's no defense at all. Under defamation law, those who "republish" (legal term for "repeating publicly") a defamatory statement are fully liable.
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She is a drama queen, and people should be skeptical of her motives, but I don't see what rumor mongering does other than to antagonize the jury pool. If Trump has proof of racial bias or unethical behavior, he might as well share it with us now.
@cato potatoe
He should have shared it with us when he made the accusations.
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It's no defense at all. Under defamation law, those who "republish" (legal term for "repeating publicly") a defamatory statement are fully liable.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Correct me if I am wrong,but IF she claims that and/or files suit over it,doesn't she have to prove the charges are bogus?
It ain't slander if you are telling the truth.
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@Maj. Bill Martin
Correct me if I am wrong,but IF she claims that and/or files suit over it, doesn't she have to prove the charges are bogus?
It ain't slander if you are telling the truth.
No. Burden of proof is reversed. If you say that someone did something nasty, they can deny it, sue you, and then the burden is on you to prove that what you said is true. It has to be that way because of the relative impossibility of proving a negative.
So if Trump said it, he'd better have some backup or he could find himself being sued for defamation.
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No. Burden of proof is reversed. If you say that someone did something nasty, they can deny it, sue you, and then the burden is on you to prove that what you said is true. It has to be that way because of the relative impossibility of proving a negative.
So if Trump said it, he'd better have some backup or he could find himself being sued for defamation.
It’s funny because I have a sister who’s a lawyer, and she said exactly what you said. She can come back and sue him should she so chose
He needs to start listening to his attorneys and quit thinking he knows more than they do
The burden of proof is always on the accuser. And that standard also applies to these prosecutors going after Trump.
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No. Burden of proof is reversed. If you say that someone did something nasty, they can deny it, sue you, and then the burden is on you to prove that what you said is true. It has to be that way because of the relative impossibility of proving a negative.
So if Trump said it, he'd better have some backup or he could find himself being sued for defamation.
@Maj. Bill Martin
Thanks,I think.
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I hope Trump has some proof, I don't know how much of a defense it is to say 'I didn't make an accusation, I was just repeating hearsay bullshit I heard' **nononono* Now what other little insulting names will he give to the DA and then whine about being treated unfairly. Yeah Trumps being targeted but he loses sympathy by acting like a three year old having a tantrum and using grade school insults and taunts.
It's generally no defense at all that one repeats (i.e., "republishes") slander one heard. On the other hand, just because one says "I heard X about Y" doesn't mean that one can't be found to have made up the slander one's self, and just attempted to couch it in terms of repeating what someone else said.
Furthermore, given the context, even though the DA is a public person in this situation, it would probably not be difficult for a jury to find that the statement was made with actual malice, and therefore was actionable even though the DA is a public person (public persons get less protection from the libel/slander laws than private persons).
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Furthermore, given the context, even though the DA is a public person in this situation, it would probably not be difficult for a jury to find that the statement was made with actual malice, and therefore was actionable even though the DA is a public person (public persons get less protection from the libel/slander laws than private persons).
And the case could be made that he threw that out there in an attempt to intimidate the prosecutor. The only people that should be attacking the credibility of the DA is Donald Trump’s defense team.
This was really really stupid
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Get ready for the next libel suit against Mr. Trump.
I think that as well.
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They say, They say it sounds like anonymous sources from MSM, which he hates and deplores.
In my next life...I am coming back as "they". :laugh:
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It’s funny because I have a sister who’s a lawyer, and she said exactly what you said. She can come back and sue him should she so chose
The statute of limitations for defamation tends to be pretty short -- in Ohio its one year. The reason that matters is that I don't think she would want to file a defamation action while prosecuting a case against Trump. At least not while the charging decision is pending. So my guess is that she waits before filing...unless it is actually true, in which case she won't.
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So what if she did? How does that change things?
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So what if she did? How does that change things?
If this DA going after Trump has any credibility issues or if it’s clear she has an open hostility and bias against Donald Trump that case needs to be made and challenged by Donald Trump’s attorneys and not him posting to his followers on his TruthSocial site
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If this DA going after Trump has any credibility issues or if it’s clear she has an open hostility and bias against Donald Trump that case needs to be made and challenged by Donald Trump’s attorneys and not him posting to his followers on his TruthSocial site.
They already tried to get rid of her, and failed.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-rejects-trumps-bid-disqualify-georgia-prosecutor-probing-him-filing-2023-07-31/
Personally, I don't doubt in the least that she is biased against Trump. But this gang leader sex thing from Trump was just stupid.
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Hey, "some people say that Cruz's dad was involved with the assignation of JFK"...
That's how he rolls...
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Hey, "some people say that Cruz's dad was involved with the assignation of JFK"...
That's how he rolls...
Just like a Troll, or a Master Baiter(NO not that! there's a space between.) chumming the waters hoping the faithful will erupt in a feeding frenzy to provide him the attention he needs to live.
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Hey, "some people say that Cruz's dad was involved with the assignation of JFK"...
That's how he rolls...
Exactly.
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Serious question.
Ted Cruz is NOT running and is not going to run,so why try to drag him through this crap?
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Serious question.
Ted Cruz is NOT running and is not going to run,so why try to drag him through this crap?
Because it is an example of Trump's modus operandi lest people forget.
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Because it is an example of Trump's modus operandi lest people forget.
@DB
That is just freaking hilarious!
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@DB
That is just freaking hilarious!
I don't find serious false accusations funny to gain power.
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That's it, Tangerine Mussolini, keep talking.
By the time he gets sent up the river, no one will miss his incessant rich spoiled brat whining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FICjFaHAc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FICjFaHAc)
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That's it, Tangerine Mussolini, keep talking.
By the time he gets sent up the river, no one will miss his incessant rich spoiled brat whining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FICjFaHAc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95FICjFaHAc)
Except for his cult
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no one will miss his incessant rich spoiled brat whining.
Except for his cult
@kevindavis007
Nope,not even a HINT of class warfare and jealousy,there.
Tell me,Comrade,how much money does someone have to have to not have you wanting to see them murdered or sent to prison?
Clearly it is more than the minimum wage that you probably earn.