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Title: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hunter
Post by: mystery-ak on April 18, 2024, 05:39:04 pm
Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like
Derek Hunter


Republicans love it when a liberal says something vaguely conservative, or even expressly so. It immediately is tweeted, retweeted or straight out stolen by content thieves desperate for engagement clicks for cash and goes viral. People get excited and elevate the person who said it, they’re praised on cable news and talk radio, maybe even invited to speak at various conservative conferences. It’s stupid, damaging to the cause and needs to end.

It's great clickbait, and who doesn’t love that, but it’s not helpful. It’s not helpful because it never works out to our benefit.

I enjoy Bill Maher’s comedy and show, even though I largely disagree with his politics. I do wish he’d have conservatives on with content in the front of their underpants, but that’s a matter of style. He is a committed liberal, having donated $1 million of his own money to reelected Barack Obama in 2012. That he occasionally says something sane is more of a bug, not a feature.

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Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: LMAO on April 18, 2024, 05:45:03 pm
The worst of this phenomenon is when it comes to Tulsi Gabbard



 Her voting record is that of a very far left Democrat. But she got to speak at CPAC and she’s even on Trump’s list for possible VP
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: mountaineer on April 18, 2024, 05:50:41 pm
Well, duh - whether it's RFK, Jr., Gabbard or Maher. Use your brains, conservatives!
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: The_Reader_David on April 18, 2024, 07:12:29 pm
I would remind you all of the sentiment expressed by Lord Acton, one of the leading 19th century thinkers in the British conservative tradition that stretches from Burke to Thatcher:

At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition, and by kindling dispute over the spoils in the hour of success.
             — John Dalberg-Acton, 1st Baron Acton

When folks who identify as "left" get things right, we should regard them as short-term allies, useful auxiliaries in advancing the cause of freedom, not bosom buddies, all the while hoping (though not expecting) that they will see the error of their left-leaning ideas and become conservatives.
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 18, 2024, 07:59:26 pm
I would remind you all of the sentiment expressed by Lord Acton, one of the leading 19th century thinkers in the British conservative tradition that stretches from Burke to Thatcher:

At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition, and by kindling dispute over the spoils in the hour of success.
             — John Dalberg-Acton, 1st Baron Acton

When folks who identify as "left" get things right, we should regard them as short-term allies, useful auxiliaries in advancing the cause of freedom, not bosom buddies, all the while hoping (though not expecting) that they will see the error of their left-leaning ideas and become conservatives.

That's a great quote and comment.  I bolded the part I think is key in the present time because we have a lot of people who take a "you're either with us or against us" view.  And if you split from them on an issue or two, they try to destroy you.

But as Lord Acton said, the truth is that we need those people if we actually want to get stuff done   When we personalize politics and insist on 100% or nothing, we make it impossible to accomplish anything.
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: LMAO on April 18, 2024, 09:44:37 pm
There are a few issues I agree with Bill Maher and Tulsi Gabbard on

I wouldn't vote for them, though.
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 18, 2024, 11:17:33 pm
There are a few issues I agree with Bill Maher and Tulsi Gabbard on

I wouldn't vote for them, though.

Totally agree.   It doesn't mean you vote for people with whom you have a lot of disagreements.  It just means you are willing to work with people on specific issues where you happen to agree.   And that requires not permanently alienating them just because you disagree on other things.
Title: Re: Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like.. Derek Hun
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on April 18, 2024, 11:50:20 pm
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I soooo love it when Republicans say one thing on FoxNews, O.A.N., and NewsMax, and say the exact opposite behind closed doors.