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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: ABX on May 15, 2014, 01:40:56 am
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Breaking on Drudge. Story developing....
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Congrats Rush!
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Alright! This will drive the left crazy!
(Especially the NEA. ^-^)
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Who wants to bet the Rush Revere series WON'T be included in Common Core?
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This explains MO's new hashtag.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/24zhus3.jpg)
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:silly:
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Well, there goes the rest of the week.
Oh, I forgot. Rush NEVER talks about himself.
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Well, there goes the rest of the week.
Oh, I forgot. Rush NEVER talks about himself.
Rush has inspired millions of conservatives across two generations. What have you done, other than to complain?
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Alright! This will drive the left crazy!
(Especially the NEA. ^-^)
OH yeah!!!
:beer:
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Well, there goes the rest of the week.
Oh, I forgot. Rush NEVER talks about himself.
sour grapes??
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Rush has inspired millions of conservatives across two generations. What have you done, other than to complain?
Attacking me is a non-sequitur.
The fact is, Rush says he never talks about himself, and does just that likely a third of the week. He's a money-making machine, and has become even more so the more money he makes.
I don't listen to Rush to hear him patting himself on the back for writing kid's books. Or to hear some kid call in and, magically, get through and have the kid pat Rush on the back.
I guess he inspires you, but his show has gone downhill since he started hawking tea and kid's books.
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sour grapes??
Ten years ago, I tuned into Rush to hear political commentary.
Now, when I tune in, there's Two-if-by-Tea and Rush Revere with a little political commentary squeezed in here and there.
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Attacking me is a non-sequitur.
The fact is, Rush says he never talks about himself, and does just that likely a third of the week. He's a money-making machine, and has become even more so the more money he makes.
I don't listen to Rush to hear him patting himself on the back for writing kid's books. Or to hear some kid call in and, magically, get through and have the kid pat Rush on the back.
I guess he inspires you, but his show has gone downhill since he started hawking tea and kid's books.
Sink based strictly on what you say here it would be VERY easy for someone who didn't know better to conclude that there isn't much you like about anyone or anything conservative.
Just sayin!
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I think these children's books are the best thing Rush has done in a long time. I heard a woman caller today telling him how much her daughter and her daughter's friends love the books and I could tell that Rush really got a kick out of it! To be able to inspire young children in this way is so important, really important for the future. I'm happy for him.
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I think these children's books are the best thing Rush has done in a long time. I heard a woman caller today telling him how much her daughter and her daughter's friends love the books and I could tell that Rush really got a kick out of it! To be able to inspire young children in this way is so important, really important for the future. I'm happy for him.
I am going to buy the audio versions to take on vaca with my grandsons...so they can listen while we drive...
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I am going to buy the audio versions to take on vaca with my grandsons...so they can listen while we drive...
That's a great idea!
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Sink based strictly on what you say here it would be VERY easy for someone who didn't know better to conclude that there isn't much you like about anyone or anything conservative.
Just sayin!
If it's conservative to transform from a political commentator (a commentator who pulls down $40 Million a year) to a product hawker/cochlear implant recipient/political commentator (in that order), then I don't recognize conservatism.
Rush is not the political force he once was. He's lost a third of his audience, and it's likely due to his show becoming one long infomercial.
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This should absolutely make the head of Chris Matthews explode. I can hear the anger and venom now (though I have to hear it from someone else or read about since I would never watch the wimp).
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Congratulations, Rush! A truly great American....no disrespect to Sean. LOL
He found another niche and is filling it....although, truthfully, it was his wife who hatched the children's book idea and the talking horse Liberty. Rush admitted this when the 1st book came out. It's a terrific vehicle for him to reach the young.
No doubt, we're going to see video productions of the work(s)....ala Harry Potter.
That said, his show is almost impossible to listen to, of late. The last hour is complete bullsh*t....out of sixty minutes, less than 30 minutes of actual content.
Still love him....but being in the car for virtually his entire show...it's gotten to the point that simply by glancing at the clock, I know exactly when to switch to my local sports talk program.
Would rather listen about RGIII or the NATS, than commercials that are teased and narrated by Rush, himself. His last hour is unbearable.
JMHO.
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http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/05/15/rush-limbaugh-wins-childrens-book-author-of-the-year-despite-libs-protest-118980 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/05/15/rush-limbaugh-wins-childrens-book-author-of-the-year-despite-libs-protest-118980)
Drudge's link is inoperable....here's one that works.
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I guess he inspires you, but his show has gone downhill since he started hawking tea and kid's books.
Couldn't agree more. But am still very glad he's "out there" bringing his message to the youth who are exposed to nothing except negative commentary when it comes to Republicans and Conservatism.
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I am a Rush Limbaugh "Charter Listener" in that I am one of maybe 25K people who listened to Rush Limbaugh from the first day he came on the air in Sacramento. I do find it hard to listen to his show of late, but I still might if I happen to be in my car at that time. But more and more, I turn to my MP3 audio books for entertainment. I think a big part of the radio audience does as well, and that has harmed all of broadcast radio, not just Rush. Advertisers just don't support media in decline. And, of course, everytime Rush says something controversial there is an outcry and advertisers peel away.
To solve this problem, Rush had to develop alternative sources of revenue, so he and his wife came up with the Two if by Tea and Childrens' Books. It was a brilliant strategy from a marketing standpoint, but it no doubt antagonized certain segments of his core audience. Nonetheless, Rush has found an income source that he controls, is sustainable, and frees him up to say what he wants without being at the mercy of MSM patrons who want everything liberal, or at least whitewashed. I don't blame him in the least.
I can read what he has to say on his website, and it takes less than an hour instead of the three hours of listening. So that's usually what I do.
As for Sink, he has never liked Limbaugh. He has been bashing Rush for as long as I can remember, and we go back a long ways. Rush, like all of us, is getting up in years and slowing down a bit. He is a steadfast survivor, and I, for one, am very grateful for all that he has contributed to our cause.
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Ditto. Can't stand to listen long anymore.
But, we on the right owe him our gratitude for forcing a conservative versus liberal dialogue. Alright, sometimes it was done by elbowing his in-your-face conservative message in to national media attention, but in those days that's what it took.
And now his book thing cuts right to the heart of the matter - educating the next generations of Americans. Ditto that, Rush!
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Ten years ago, I tuned into Rush to hear political commentary.
Now, when I tune in, there's Two-if-by-Tea and Rush Revere with a little political commentary squeezed in here and there.
It's called enterprise. In any mass medium, you have two choices to make money: sell yourself out to advertisers or sell your own stuff. Sandra Fluke and company damaged Rush's ability to do the former, so he does the latter. At least now, he has products people actually WANT to buy, and not that alternative herbal-cure crap that so many infomercial spokesmen like to hawk.
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I think these children's books are the best thing Rush has done in a long time. I heard a woman caller today telling him how much her daughter and her daughter's friends love the books and I could tell that Rush really got a kick out of it! To be able to inspire young children in this way is so important, really important for the future. I'm happy for him.
The best call I've heard was from a Mom whose daughter's teacher read the (first) book aloud in class and had the kids do their own writing project based on Rush Revere.
ALL teachers are not leftists (especially at the elementary level), and these books might give some a resource for teaching the TRUTH about America.
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If it's conservative to transform from a political commentator (a commentator who pulls down $40 Million a year) to a product hawker/cochlear implant recipient/political commentator (in that order), then I don't recognize conservatism.
Rush is not the political force he once was. He's lost a third of his audience, and it's likely due to his show becoming one long infomercial.
I'm sorry, but it's absolutely absurd to say that Rush is no longer a political commentator. Of course he's not the political force "he once was.' He was the first. He was a lightening bolt. He was a single light crying out in the darkness.
Much has changed since he started (much of it BECAUSE of him), but he is still a powerful force to be reckoned with, and the best there is at what he does.
I listen when I can, and sometimes he's talking about his books and why he wrote them (his love for America), but the idea that he no longer is a bona fide political commentator because he spends some of his time on the tea (which is tasty) and these fantastic books (whose popularity has stunned him) is just silly.
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Just for the record, Rush talked about his award during his opening monologue, but has been doing political commentary since then.
He's talking about the IRS scandal now.
Just for the record. ^-^
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IMHO Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!
Instead of envy of his success I feel nothing but gratitude!
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This explains MO's new hashtag.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/24zhus3.jpg)
OK.....frickin' Highlarious!!!! how did you do that? did you find that online or did you do it yourself? :laughingdog:
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OK.....frickin' Highlarious!!!! how did you do that? did you find that online or did you do it yourself? :laughingdog:
Just Photoshop but there are a lot of free tools to modify images out there
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Capitalism is always a good thing.
Always.
Allocation of scarce resources is a difficult and persistent problem.
The Lord provided, in my view, an elegant and wise solution.
Always.
Profit encourages voluntary charity.
Voluntary
Rush is a very fine person of exemplary personal character, an award winning author
and outstanding analyzer of things political.
He also writes about our founding patriots in an educational and interesting manner.
Excellence is his middle name.
Congratulations on a job well done.
Al
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IMHO Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!
Instead of envy of his success I feel nothing but gratitude!
DITTO.
I don't know where this claim comes from that Rush never promotes himself.
OF COURSE he promotes himself, he's a talk show host. He's not paid by government handouts, he in the private sector. I have never heard him say he doesn't talk about himself....
As a great man once said, "Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!"
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DITTO.
I don't know where this claim comes from that Rush never promotes himself.
OF COURSE he promotes himself, he's a talk show host. He's not paid by government handouts, he in the private sector. I have never heard him say he doesn't talk about himself....
As a great man once said, "Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!"
OK... I'll bite.
Exactly what has Limbaugh DONE for "the conservative movement in this country"?
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OK... I'll bite.
Exactly what has Limbaugh DONE for "the conservative movement in this country"?
Disclaimer: I don't like the guy one bit.
Having said that - he does push conservative viewpoints into public.
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Disclaimer: I don't like the guy one bit.
Having said that - he does push conservative viewpoints into public.
Yes... what has he done exactly?
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Disclaimer: I don't like the guy one bit.
Having said that - he does push conservative viewpoints into public.
btw... he doesn't do that.
He echoes back and substantiates the things that his listeners already believe.
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btw... he doesn't do that.
He echoes back and substantiates the things that his listeners already believe.
I am not going to argue for the sake of arguing.
Rush Limbaugh is the most powerful media voice on the planet. He has no competition.
Every time they try to destroy him, he comes back twice as strong....financially as well in the abstract.
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OK... I'll bite.
Exactly what has Limbaugh DONE for "the conservative movement in this country"?
He lives rent free in liberal's heads. 'Nuff said.
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Yes... what has he done exactly?
Let me answer that question with a question for you....
Why do you think that researching, discussing publicly, and promoting and educating people about conservative values isn't "doing" anything?
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btw... he doesn't do that.
He echoes back and substantiates the things that his listeners already believe.
Rush has said that himself many times! But the fact that he has a audience that is always in excess of 20 million at any one time makes him a pretty darned big megaphone which allows those ideas to be heard very widely. He to a medium that was on the edge of disappearing (AM broadcast radio) and turned it into a HUGE and very useful marketplace! Without him I venture to say we conservatives would still be wandering around in the wilderness!
He has, and continues to do, plenty for the conservative cause! More than any other single individual in fact!
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He lives rent free in liberal's heads. 'Nuff said.
Yep!
There cannot be a more powerful testament to what he has done than that Alice!
Thank you!
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Rush has a powerful voice and he certainly has facilitated people becoming engaged in the process. I will be generous with my allocation, but he is 50% entertainer and 50% commentator. I'm okay with that. He has a place - especially if it drives some on the left batshit.
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Let me answer that question with a question for you....
Why do you think that researching, discussing publicly, and promoting and educating people about conservative values isn't "doing" anything?
Rush Limbaugh went on air nationally in 1988. In 1989 Bush Sr. took office and four years later conservatives led a revolution which gave us eight years of Clinton.
Since Reagan (since Rush took to the national airwaves), what I've mostly heard from Conservatives is that the GOP is becoming the DNC-light, that GOP Presidential candidates are squishy moderates (I was around when the talk of Dubya began to emerge, and I am quite familiar with what conservatives thought of him, and I also vividly remember all the comments on his "compassionate conservatism" so save your breaths) and how conservatives never get elected. We had that dialogue in this very forum this very week.
Since Limbaugh, I've seen a massive expansion of the government, a massive growth in the national debt, and very little movement of the country in general back to the right. In fact, what I have seen is massive movement to the left... we all complain aboutt that in this very forum.
Back when I listened to Rush, I liked him because he saved the trouble of actually thinking. He reflected my own thoughts back to me very eloquently, so I learned eloquence from Rush. There came a time when I no longer 'got" anything from Rush, so I stopped listening.
But as far as actually doing something for conservatism, I don't see it.
I'm not criticizing Rush, but asking myself what Rush had done for conservatism, I actually ended up having one of those "name Hillary's accomplishments" moments.
In a weird and bizarre twist, I would actually give more credit to Jim Robinson for the things he did for conservatism than to Rush.
Rush rode an existing medium.
Robinson created one, and there was actual activism that grew from it.
Odd, isn't it?
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He lives rent free in liberal's heads. 'Nuff said.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid et al likewise live rent free in ours.
Then they charge US rent for their living in our heads.
Are we going to list that as an accomplishment of theirs?
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I am not going to argue for the sake of arguing.
Rush Limbaugh is the most powerful media voice on the planet. He has no competition.
Every time they try to destroy him, he comes back twice as strong....financially as well in the abstract.
I never argue for the sake of arguing.
I see things differently sometimes, and I like to share my thoughts with others.
I am not denying the undeniable fact that Rush has done exceedingly well for himself, and good for him!
But his doing something for conservatism is what I fail to see.
Conservatism pre-existed Rush, and has arguably been in decline during his run on air.
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Tell you what...
I can tell you one distinct thing that Rush has done, but he shares that however with many others like Jim Robinson, Lucianne Goldberg and Matt Drudge.
He's connected conservatives and made them (us) feel like we're not alone.
I'll give him credit for that.
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Tell you what...
I can tell you one distinct thing that Rush has done, but he shares that however with many others like Jim Robinson, Lucianne Goldberg and Matt Drudge.
He's connected conservatives and made them (us) feel like we're not alone.
I'll give him credit for that.
:beer: I can live with that, Luis!
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Other than his very artful education and entertainment of millions of people, which I consider a great accomplishment, I would say that Rush was the single person most responsible for the 1994 Republican congressional victory. It was the first time the Republicans gained a majority in the House in 42 years. I'd consider that quite an accomplishment for someone who held no political office. More recently, he sold a few million children's books that promote traditional American values regarding the founding of our nation at a time when most of the literature in this arena is promoting America as racist and mommy as a lesbian.
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Other than his very artful education and entertainment of millions of people, which I consider a great accomplishment, I would say that Rush was the single person most responsible for the 1994 Republican congressional victory. It was the first time the Republicans gained a majority in the House in 42 years. I'd consider that quite an accomplishment for someone who held no political office. More recently, he sold a few million a couple of children's books that promote traditional American values regarding the founding of our nation at a time when most of the literature in this arena is promoting America as racist and mommy as a lesbian.
I guess we're going to have to disagree on the idea that 1994 was a Limbaugh victory.
He had a part in that revolution, but I don't agree that he was the epicenter of it.
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I guess we're going to have to disagree on the idea that 1994 was a Limbaugh victory.
He had a part in that revolution, but I don't agree that he was the epicenter of it.
You'd be in disagreement with most of the members of the Republican caucus. They honored Rush at the time and credited him for the victory.
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You'd be in disagreement with most of the members of the Republican caucus. They honored Rush at the time and credited him for the victory.
So Rush publicizing Newt's Contract With America should be considered as doing more than actually thinking up the concept and drafting it?
I guess we're going to disagree on what constitutes "doing" versus what constitutes "promoting".
Ok.
That's 1994.
What else?
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So Rush publicizing Newt's Contract With America should be considered as doing more than actually thinking up the concept and drafting it?
I guess we're going to disagree on what constitutes "doing" versus what constitutes "promoting".
Ok.
That's 1994.
What else?
I think I listed his main accomplishments in my post. No need to repeat them. Being the catalyst for a Republican congress that lasted a dozen years is no small thing.
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I think I listed his main accomplishments in my post. No need to repeat them. Being the catalyst for a Republican congress that lasted a dozen years is no small thing.
We're going to have to disagree.
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DITTO.
I don't know where this claim comes from that Rush never promotes himself.
OF COURSE he promotes himself, he's a talk show host. He's not paid by government handouts, he in the private sector. I have never heard him say he doesn't talk about himself....
As a great man once said, "Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!"
DITTO That!!
But there will be ones that will argue almost every point, often just for the sake of arguing!!
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DITTO That!!
But there will be ones that will argue almost every point, often just for the sake of arguing!!
:silly:
If you're referring to me, you're way out of line.
I debate points when I believe I see something different than others.
If that's not to your liking, please put me on ignore.
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If you're referring to me, you're way out of line.
I debate points when I believe I see something different than others.
If that's not to your liking, please put me on ignore.
:silly: :silly: :silly:
Seriously?? Do you always think everything is about YOU??? lol
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I think these children's books are the best thing Rush has done in a long time. I heard a woman caller today telling him how much her daughter and her daughter's friends love the books and I could tell that Rush really got a kick out of it! To be able to inspire young children in this way is so important, really important for the future. I'm happy for him.
My 12-year old loves them. He gave a book report on Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims. I'm sure it drove his liberal teacher crazy.
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I think I listed his main accomplishments in my post. No need to repeat them. Being the catalyst for a Republican congress that lasted a dozen years is no small thing.
Here's the problem I have with that, and please understand that I have the utmost respect for you.
If 1994 (the takeover of Congress by the GOP) is what you list as the most significant thing that Rush did for the conservative movement in the US, what were 1992 and 1996 about?
Conservatives left the GOP in droves in 1992, and and enough of them were still away in 1996 that the argument could conceivably be made that the 8.4% percent of the conservative vote pulled by Perot was significant in Clinton's win.
Clinton won the White House TWICE by a plurality as a result of the conservative vote splitting away from the GOP.
So I have a problem seeing a Republican Party victory in 1994 as being something that Liimbaugh did for the conservative movement when conservatives were as far away from the GOP as they have ever been.
Just my opinion.
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IMHO Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!
Instead of envy of his success I feel nothing but gratitude!
There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of moderate Democrats or Reagan Democrats who somehow tuned into his show at one point and became hooked. And after time and countless lessons from Rush about what has become of the Democratic party, have been able to remove the millstone around their neck, and became Republicans. My dad being one. He was never "liberal", but still voted solid democrat, believing what he was told since he was a child, that Dems are for the poor, Reps are for the rich. Rush did what I thought nobody could do, and opened his eyes. Bill Clinton was the first Democrat candidate he voted against, and he voted solid Republican ever since.
Some on this thread love Rush, others are very vocal that they don't. Frankly I don't care. Rush made a difference in my fathers life, and in mine, because in my fathers last years we grew closer than ever listening to Rush's show.
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It's so easy to confuse correlation and cause.
Also, there is little Rush can do about about LIVs and fraud when our "own people" don't have the balls to act.
Rush is not God, even though he has talent on loan from God.
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It is even better to hear the young when they call in to the program.
The children, parents, grandparents and friends.
One word. Enthusiastic.
The book presents information not taught in K-12.
So Rush is educating the next generation.
Fabulous.
Al
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Rush Limbaugh went on air nationally in 1988. In 1989 Bush Sr. took office and four years later conservatives led a revolution which gave us eight years of Clinton.
Since Reagan (since Rush took to the national airwaves), what I've mostly heard from Conservatives is that the GOP is becoming the DNC-light, that GOP Presidential candidates are squishy moderates (I was around when the talk of Dubya began to emerge, and I am quite familiar with what conservatives thought of him, and I also vividly remember all the comments on his "compassionate conservatism" so save your breaths) and how conservatives never get elected. We had that dialogue in this very forum this very week.
Since Limbaugh, I've seen a massive expansion of the government, a massive growth in the national debt, and very little movement of the country in general back to the right. In fact, what I have seen is massive movement to the left... we all complain aboutt that in this very forum.
Back when I listened to Rush, I liked him because he saved the trouble of actually thinking. He reflected my own thoughts back to me very eloquently, so I learned eloquence from Rush. There came a time when I no longer 'got" anything from Rush, so I stopped listening.
But as far as actually doing something for conservatism, I don't see it.
I'm not criticizing Rush, but asking myself what Rush had done for conservatism, I actually ended up having one of those "name Hillary's accomplishments" moments.
In a weird and bizarre twist, I would actually give more credit to Jim Robinson for the things he did for conservatism than to Rush.
Rush rode an existing medium.
Robinson created one, and there was actual activism that grew from it.
Odd, isn't it?
I think you're conflating what has happened politically in the country with what Rush has done and somehow blaming him for the rise in liberalism. Isn't that what you're doing here?
(Please correct me if I'm wrong).
The reason I was asking you the question about what Rush has 'done' is that I believe that teaching, encouraging and bringing people together with optimism and humor IS 'doing' something.
There are many people who have learned a lot from Rush. I'm in your situation where I already believed and knew things before he came on the air that he reflected in his commentary, but there are many people out there who have learned what conservatism is about from him.
And now, there are going to be myriads of kids who love America more because they are reading his entertaining and enlightening history books (subject of thread).
That alone will be more than most of us will ever accomplish for the cause of conservatism.
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It's so easy to confuse correlation and cause.
Also, there is little Rush can do about about LIVs and fraud when our "own people" don't have the balls to act.
Rush is not God, even though he has talent on loan from God.
This!
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"I think you're conflating what has happened politically in the country with what Rush has done and somehow blaming him for the rise in liberalism. Isn't that what you're doing here?"
Precisely my point.
I knew someone would come out and say whaT I was thinking.
Are you Rush?? ^-^
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There are tens if not hundreds of thousands of moderate Democrats or Reagan Democrats who somehow tuned into his show at one point and became hooked. And after time and countless lessons from Rush about what has become of the Democratic party, have been able to remove the millstone around their neck, and became Republicans. My dad being one. He was never "liberal", but still voted solid democrat, believing what he was told since he was a child, that Dems are for the poor, Reps are for the rich. Rush did what I thought nobody could do, and opened his eyes. Bill Clinton was the first Democrat candidate he voted against, and he voted solid Republican ever since.
Some on this thread love Rush, others are very vocal that they don't. Frankly I don't care. Rush made a difference in my fathers life, and in mine, because in my fathers last years we grew closer than ever listening to Rush's show.
You obviously get it! As you say, your father's story multiplied millions of times is something no other person alive can lay claim to! Only Rush and Rush alone!
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"I think you're conflating what has happened politically in the country with what Rush has done and somehow blaming him for the rise in liberalism. Isn't that what you're doing here?"
Precisely my point.
I knew someone would come out and say whaT I was thinking.
Are you Rush?? ^-^
For my husband's sake, I certainly hope not! ^-^
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DITTO That!!
But there will be ones that will argue almost every point, often just for the sake of arguing!!
:silly:
I'm sure this is referring to me.
You don't listen to Rush very much if you have not heard him, frequently if not daily, say "I don't like to talk about myself."
Can someone tell me of what value to conservatism three or four days of learning the ins-and-outs of Rush's cochlear implant was?
Other than Sean Hannity (who now has Degan McDowell doing an entire segment every week of "ask Sean"), no other conservative commentator talks about himself as much as Rush does.
I know everybody on this site likely hates Michael Medved. To me, he is the most insightful, most intelligent, most unselfish talk show host on radio today. I NEVER miss one of his shows. HE does as much or more to further the conservative cause as Rush does.
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IMHO Rush Limbaugh has personally done more for the conservative movement in this country than any other man alive and made a pile of money doing it!!
Instead of envy of his success I feel nothing but gratitude!
And yet since he became nationally syndicated, the GOP has lost the national popular vote for President 5 out of 6 times.
So the "done more" needs a metric, to see what it is that was "done."
Predictable cheerleading, preaching to the choir, entertaining, etc.---sure.
Convincing, converting, persuading people to do differently? Not so much.
Done has the same root as do
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I know everybody on this site likely hates Michael Medved. To me, he is the most insightful, most intelligent, most unselfish talk show host on radio today. I NEVER miss one of his shows. HE does as much or more to further the conservative cause as Rush does.
I haven't heard Medved in years. He's been toiling away on Salem for over a decade now. I don't recall it being a bad show, but because it's Salem, nobody really listens to it much.
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I'm sure this is referring to me.
You don't listen to Rush very much if you have not heard him, frequently if not daily, say "I don't like to talk about myself."
Can someone tell me of what value to conservatism three or four days of learning the ins-and-outs of Rush's cochlear implant was?
Other than Sean Hannity (who now has Degan McDowell doing an entire segment every week of "ask Sean"), no other conservative commentator talks about himself as much as Rush does.
I know everybody on this site likely hates Michael Medved. To me, he is the most insightful, most intelligent, most unselfish talk show host on radio today. I NEVER miss one of his shows. HE does as much or more to further the conservative cause as Rush does.
Sinkspur, I guess our tastes just run on opposite ends of the spectrum. Of course, Rush talked about his hearing issues - I'm sure he gets all kinds of emails asking how that is doing. I, for one, am interested in hearing about it because I really like Rush, I've listened to him for so long that I feel like we are "friends". I care about him.
You're right, Medved is not my cup of tea - but it's a big old world and there's room for all of us. I respect your opinion, you always back it up with reason.
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Sinkspur, I guess our tastes just run on opposite ends of the spectrum. Of course, Rush talked about his hearing issues - I'm sure he gets all kinds of emails asking how that is doing. I, for one, am interested in hearing about it because I really like Rush, I've listened to him for so long that I feel like we are "friends". I care about him.
You're right, Medved is not my cup of tea - but it's a big old world and there's room for all of us. I respect your opinion, you always back it up with reason.
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Thank you. I will take your respect (since I get so little around here) and leave it at that. You're one of the good ones, too.
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And yet since he became nationally syndicated, the GOP has lost the national popular vote for President 5 out of 6 times.
So the "done more" needs a metric, to see what it is that was "done."
First off, the Presidency is not decided by popular vote, it's by electoral vote, and three of those six elections were pluralities. Furthermore, Limbaugh entered syndication in 1988, so it's 5 out of 7.
Moving onto Congress. Since 1994, the GOP has won the House of Representatives, the chamber designated to represent the people, 8 out of 10 times. The Senate has also been in GOP hands for the majority of that time span.
There is a reason the Democrats consider Limbaugh such a major threat. I think he's been hurt in recent years, but his influence is real.
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Rush provides a perspective that you do not get anywhere else.
I really enjoy the way he put his perspective on the Huffington article on Obamacare. He was very emphatic about the fact that the article didn't mean what people thought/hoped it meant.
And, he was spot on.
No one else does that...no one.
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I think you're conflating what has happened politically in the country with what Rush has done and somehow blaming him for the rise in liberalism. Isn't that what you're doing here?
(Please correct me if I'm wrong).
NO... that's not what I am doing at all.
What I am pointing out is that liberalism has risen in this country during the period of time that Rush has been on the air, so I am not sure that anything great has happened for conservatism during that time, so I wonder exactly what it is that Rush has done that's so great for conservatism if liberalism is on the rise, and conservatism on the decline.
The reason I was asking you the question about what Rush has 'done' is that I believe that teaching, encouraging and bringing people together with optimism and humor IS 'doing' something.
There are many people who have learned a lot from Rush. I'm in your situation where I already believed and knew things before he came on the air that he reflected in his commentary, but there are many people out there who have learned what conservatism is about from him.
If what we are crediting Rush for is bringing conservatives together, then I am all in. I've already said as much earlier. But by the same token, Rush listeners agree with Rush's politics irrespective of whether Rush existed or not.
Maybe Rush has converted some listeners over to conservatism, but I would have to believe that anyone listening to Rush who would be converted by Rush, was probably more than halfway to conservatism already.
And now, there are going to be myriads of kids who love America more because they are reading his entertaining and enlightening history books (subject of thread).
Those kids will only read Rush's books because they have parents who already love America, and are teaching their kids to love it as well.
Kids have grown up loving America for centuries, and if there were no Rush, there would continue to be kids growing up loving America because of their parents.
That alone will be more than most of us will ever accomplish for the cause of conservatism.
I have two sons in High School.
They both took a test in their civics/government class a few weeks ago where the score of the test would determine what their political ideology was.
My youngest was the only kid in his class who scored on the conservative/libertarian side of the chart, and my oldest scored the same along with an Oriental kid in his class.
Rush had part in that.
It's not that I don't like or appreciate Rush, it's that some people seem to give him far too much credit for things accomplished by others.
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And yet since he became nationally syndicated, the GOP has lost the national popular vote for President 5 out of 6 times.
So the "done more" needs a metric, to see what it is that was "done."
Predictable cheerleading, preaching to the choir, entertaining, etc.---sure.
Convincing, converting, persuading people to do differently? Not so much.
Done has the same root as do
Exactly.
And all you hear from conservatives is how they are left out of the political process in the nation.
So yes... cheerleading, preaching to the choir, entertaining and giving everyone a place to bitch s what Rush has done.
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Sinkspur, I guess our tastes just run on opposite ends of the spectrum. Of course, Rush talked about his hearing issues - I'm sure he gets all kinds of emails asking how that is doing. I, for one, am interested in hearing about it because I really like Rush, I've listened to him for so long that I feel like we are "friends". I care about him.
You're right, Medved is not my cup of tea - but it's a big old world and there's room for all of us. I respect your opinion, you always back it up with reason.
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That's his talent alice... making like-minded people feel like they are part of something far larger, and that they are not alone.
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That's his talent alice... making like-minded people feel like they are part of something far larger, and that they are not alone.
Well, sometimes, events create an opportunity to exponentially grow your listening audience. This is that time.
Luis, I believe because of all the publicity he gets, people are curious by nature and will tune in....if only to hear him make an ass of himself..
If they can get through a couple or three days, they're his new audience. I believe there are possibly millions of those people that never understood the issues as explained by an funny, sarcastic, engaging, combative, fact-filled manner.
I'm convinced he could be POTUS should he want the job. He's right there in front of us, folks.
Wouldn't THAT scare the hell out of Bill and Hillary? LOL!
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Clearly off the subject but..
RE: "Oriental kid in his class."
Did you know that Oriental to describe a person is considered a pejorative?
How stupid is that? Oriental is a wonderful, nice sounding word and the only word that is accurately descriptive.
It's like Bobby Clampett when he was suspended for a week for using the term Chinaman. We have englishman, german, frenchman..yada yada..but nooooo chinaman.
The world has gone ape.
Beam me up scottieman.
/end of rant
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Clearly off the subject but..
RE: "Oriental kid in his class."
Did you know that Oriental to describe a person is considered a pejorative?
How stupid is that? Oriental is a wonderful, nice sounding word and the only word that is accurately descriptive.
It's like Bobby Clampett when he was suspended for a week for using the term Chinaman. We have englishman, german, frenchman..yada yada..but nooooo chinaman.
The world has gone ape.
Beam me up scottieman.
/end of rant
Sorry...
Didn't meat to be disrespectful to anyone.
My apologies.
There was a gook kid in the class
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Did you know that Oriental to describe a person is considered a pejorative?/
who exactly made this rule?
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Sorry...
Didn't meat to be disrespectful to anyone.
My apologies.
There was a gook kid in the class
That's better.
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That's better.
Just me being PC.
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I'm sure this is referring to me.
You don't listen to Rush very much if you have not heard him, frequently if not daily, say "I don't like to talk about myself."
Can someone tell me of what value to conservatism three or four days of learning the ins-and-outs of Rush's cochlear implant was?
Other than Sean Hannity (who now has Degan McDowell doing an entire segment every week of "ask Sean"), no other conservative commentator talks about himself as much as Rush does.
I know everybody on this site likely hates Michael Medved. To me, he is the most insightful, most intelligent, most unselfish talk show host on radio today. I NEVER miss one of his shows. HE does as much or more to further the conservative cause as Rush does.
Nope, Sink. Though I may not agree with your points on some topics, I never thought you argue just for the sake of arguing. (But no, not a Medved fan!! lol)
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Nope, Sink. Though I may not agree with your points on some topics, I never thought you argue just for the sake of arguing. (But no, not a Medved fan!! lol)
So I was right.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and direct comments at the individual you're talking about rather than engaging in some bullshit, metrosexualmanish, sophomoric indirect comment?
We're all adults. If you have something to say to someone, or about someone, quit behaving like some last-century hausfrau gossiping over a party line and say it.
I thought I had an issue with Oceander a few days back so I directed my post to him.
I post when I have something to say, and sometimes that means that I disagree with something that's said.
If you don't like that, get over it.
I DON'T post just for the sake of arguing, and the proof of that is in the dozens of posted articles where where I agree with what is posted, and I don't participate in.
Next time you have something to say to me, grow some stones and say it TO ME.
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So I was right.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and direct comments at the individual you're talking about rather than engaging in some bullshit, metrosexualmanish, sophomoric indirect comment?
We're all adults. If you have something to say to someone, or about someone, quit behaving like some last-century hausfrau gossiping over a party line and say it.
I thought I had an issue with Oceander a few days back so I directed my post to him.
I post when I have something to say, and sometimes that means that I disagree with something that's said.
If you don't like that, get over it.
I DON'T post just for the sake of arguing, and the proof of that is in the dozens of posted articles where where I agree with what is posted, and I don't participate in.
Next time you have something to say to me, grow some stoned and say it TO ME.
Go bleep off punk. If I have something to say to you you're damn right I would say it. I rarely read any of your posts so I have no reason to say a damn thing to you. The biggest problem that you need to get over is that not everyone pays attention to everything that you post, and not every post is about YOU. In fact, I can't recall ever addressing you in any post here whatsoever, I may have answered a question that you posed, but that would be the extent of it.
Grow the bleep Up!!
(And why don't you take your own advice, if you don't like my posts, IGNORE them somehow.)
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Query: why not save some of this energy, passion (and invective, to the extent it's creative) for the democrats? Why waste it on intramural antics over Rush Limbaugh? Some people love him, think the Sun shines through him, and that he's a real mover and shaker. Some people don't. Ok, that's nice; can we talk about something substantive now? Or should we start arguing about something else relatively irrelevant, like whether zebras are black with white stripes, or white with black stripes?
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Go bleep off punk. If I have something to say to you you're damn right I would say it. I rarely read any of your posts so I have no reason to say a damn thing to you. The biggest problem that you need to get over is that not everyone pays attention to everything that you post, and not every post is about YOU. In fact, I can't recall ever addressing you in any post here whatsoever, I may have answered a question that you posed, but that would be the extent of it.
Grow the bleep Up!!
(And why don't you take your own advice, if you don't like my posts, IGNORE them somehow.)
Yep.
I was correct about your level of intellect.
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Query: why not save some of this energy, passion (and invective, to the extent it's creative) for the democrats? Why waste it on intramural antics over Rush Limbaugh? Some people love him, think the Sun shines through him, and that he's a real mover and shaker. Some people don't. Ok, that's nice; can we talk about something substantive now? Or should we start arguing about something else relatively irrelevant, like whether zebras are black with white stripes, or white with black stripes?
Do we all get to decide what constitutes a sufficiently important topic to argue about, or do we basically just let you pick them?
Maybe, we could all take turns!
That would be fair.
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Unless you want me to interfere take my advice and use the ignore feature that Ocean installed here..sometimes there are personality clashes and it is just better to use this feature.
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It's Friday night and everything is alright!
Katz...want you to know you're a joy to read since you've begun posting regularly. Read every word.
You're learning that this is the place where you can do exactly what Luis just did and handle it directly but in a somewhat civil fashion.
We essentially mod ourselves here, and it's been a dog's age since a thread was locked. Would hate to see that streak ended over something minor like this.
We've got a Moderate/Conservative war coming in here. LOL! :beer:
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Do we all get to decide what constitutes a sufficiently important topic to argue about, or do we basically just let you pick them?
Maybe, we could all take turns!
That would be fair.
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you crack me up!!
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Do we all get to decide what constitutes a sufficiently important topic to argue about, or do we basically just let you pick them?
Maybe, we could all take turns!
That would be fair.
LOL! :laugh:
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It's Friday night and everything is alright!
Katz...want you to know you're a joy to read since you've begun posting regularly. Read every word.
You're learning that this is the place where you can do exactly what Luis just did and handle it directly but in a somewhat civil fashion.
We essentially mod ourselves here, and it's been a dog's age since a thread was locked. Would hate to see that streak ended over something minor like this.
We've got a Moderate/Conservative war coming in here. LOL! :beer:
I enjoy your commentary too, DC!
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I hope what I have been reading on the last page or two is not a growing trend on GOPBR. The topic seemed to change to weather we think Rush has been a positive influence or a negative one, and things got pretty heated. If this is what happens when the topic is Rush, what will happen during the 2016 election season when some of us like candidate A, and others candidate B, or C? Time we all take a deep breath and enjoy the weekend and a good healthy discussion and friendly debate on the topics of the day. Oh and I like candidate A. candidate B sucks, and as for C, don't let me go there......
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I hope what I have been reading on the last page or two is not a growing trend on GOPBR. The topic seemed to change to weather we think Rush has been a positive influence or a negative one, and things got pretty heated. If this is what happens when the topic is Rush, what will happen during the 2016 election season when some of us like candidate A, and others candidate B, or C? Time we all take a deep breath and enjoy the weekend and a good healthy discussion and friendly debate on the topics of the day. Oh and I like candidate A. candidate B sucks, and as for C, don't let me go there......
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The same thing that's happened every election for the past 20 years or so.
We bloody ourselves over which candidate is the best, while the Democrats just sort of pick one.
I blame it on each Party's goals.
Our side wants to find a candidate who will promote conservatism, reduce government, control spending, never suggest a solution to the issue of illegal immigrants, roll back entitlements, put the Muslims in their place, and have apostolic views on marriage, otherwise any faction or another will "stand on the conscience" and stay home/vote for the Constitution Party guy.
Their side has one goal.
They want to beat us.
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I hope what I have been reading on the last page or two is not a growing trend on GOPBR. The topic seemed to change to weather we think Rush has been a positive influence or a negative one, and things got pretty heated. If this is what happens when the topic is Rush, what will happen during the 2016 election season when some of us like candidate A, and others candidate B, or C? Time we all take a deep breath and enjoy the weekend and a good healthy discussion and friendly debate on the topics of the day. Oh and I like candidate A. candidate B sucks, and as for C, don't let me go there......
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Good advice, Navy! Let's agree to disagree, defend our positions with friendly banter and move on when things start to heat up. There comes a point when neither party is going to give in - that's the time to shake hands and walk away. :beer:
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Just wait till Rush throws his hat in the ring. Boy! The fur will fly then.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/13894545288_9444075625_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105575503@N07/13894545288/)
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Just wait till Rush throws his hat in the ring. Boy! The fur will fly then.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/13894545288_9444075625_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/105575503@N07/13894545288/)
I love that picture!
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The same thing that's happened every election for the past 20 years or so.
We bloody ourselves over which candidate is the best, while the Democrats just sort of pick one.
I blame it on each Party's goals.
Our side wants to find a candidate who will promote conservatism, reduce government, control spending, never suggest a solution to the issue of illegal immigrants, roll back entitlements, put the Muslims in their place, and have apostolic views on marriage, otherwise any faction or another will "stand on the conscience" and stay home/vote for the Constitution Party guy.
Their side has one goal.
They want to beat us.
Well, in all fairness, the Dems bloodied themselves pretty hard in '08 and that turned out well for them.
A two-sided competition is fine. Any more than that and that's when it becomes a real problem. (paraphrase of Duverger's Law)
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We've got a Moderate/Conservative war coming in here.
Geeeeez...I hope not...I don't want to spend the next several months breaking up fights...and answering post reports...let's all remember to use posting etiquette ...we can get our points across without name calling, snide remarks or snarky comments.... :smokin:
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Geeeeez...I hope not...I don't want to spend the next several months breaking up fights...and answering post reports...let's all remember to use posting etiquette ...we can get our points across without name calling, snide remarks or snarky comments.... :smokin:
:laugh: .....forgot my 'sarcasm' tag. Sorry.
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:laugh: .....forgot my 'sarcasm' tag. Sorry.
The genius of Jim Robinson's FR was (still is) software that allows you to directly respond to another poster. In effect, there you can snipe your name-calling, your snide remark or your snarky comment. All that remained then were the "some people" type oblique insults which are always the realm of passive-aggressive posters, and generally speaking, those generate larger, more intense brawls since they shotgun an insult of sorts into a crowd of likely insult recipients, leaving the shooter with the ability to proclaim innocence as they watch the thread burn to the ground.
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The genius of Jim Robinson's FR was (still is) software that allows you to directly respond to another poster. In effect, there you can snipe your name-calling, your snide remark or your snarky comment. All that remained then were the "some people" type oblique insults which are always the realm of passive-aggressive posters, and generally speaking, those generate larger, more intense brawls since they shotgun an insult of sorts into a crowd of likely insult recipients, leaving the shooter with the ability to proclaim innocence as they watch the thread burn to the ground.
Over here that's called a "personal message" Luis, and you can send as many of them as you'd like. try it sometime.
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Over here that's called a "personal message" Luis, and you can send as many of them as you'd like. try it sometime.
We have personal messages here as well, don't we Oceander?
That's were people get to be cowards and hypocrites.
A great example is you trying to settle tempers above board, here in the visible forum, while simultaneously sending me PMs where you call me arrogant and paranoid. You did that ten minutes ago, and now you're trying to see if you can goad me into another argument via your disingenuous duplicity.
Do you really think that the best way to settle an argument is to cast insults behind the scenes only to try and take the high road in the eyes of the rest?
Or is this tactic of increasing the animosity in the background while visibly playing at being the alpha poster and settler of brawls on the visible forum your way of asserting your position in the forum?
The most destructive aspect of ANY forum is the ability to send PMs.
That's were plots are plotted and harpies hatched.
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BTW Oceander.
I'd like to point out that I disengaged immediately before myst jumped in, yet the debate about forum civility is still going on a page later, while you are still waging war via PMs.
My advice to you is to do exactly what I did back in page 4 of this 5 page thread.
Disengage.
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I'd like the thread to get back on topic. Children's Book's on American history that are receiving high awards and great reviews. Books that tell the truth and don't screw with the facts - yet kids love them, and are learning things the school would never teach them. I don't care if you like Rush or not, we need more of these type of authors, and more of these types of books. And I'll keep buying them for my son - and myself. They are a good read at any age.
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I'd like the thread to get back on topic. Children's Book's on American history that are receiving high awards and great reviews. Books that tell the truth and don't screw with the facts - yet kids love them, and are learning things the school would never teach them. I don't care if you like Rush or not, we need more of these type of authors, and more of these types of books. And I'll keep buying them for my son - and myself. They are a good read at any age.
All too true, NCD!
When were were kids, we were 'weaned' on Roy Rogers, Hop-a-long Cassidy, Gunsmoke and other assorted Western heroes that "...always caught the bad guy, who received his due before the 30 minute episode was over.
The good guys wore tasseled cowhide and rode white horses. The bad guys always looked dirty, constipated and had beards. LOL!
Today's youth has nothing like that. That have Spongebob Squarepants and their parents had Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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All too true, NCD!
When were were kids, we were 'weaned' on Roy Rogers, Hop-a-long Cassidy, Gunsmoke and other assorted Western heroes that "...always caught the bad guy, who received his due before the 30 minute episode was over.
The good guys wore tasseled cowhide and rode white horses. The bad guys always looked dirty, constipated and had beards. LOL!
Today's youth has nothing like that. That have Spongebob Squarepants and their parents had Mutant Ninja Turtles.
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I happen to love Spongebob.
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I happen to love Spongebob.
:laugh: Why of course, you would, Luis! :beer:
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Back when kid's movie hero's had creeds or rules to live by for their young fans. And the kids would know them by heart.
Rider's Rules By Roy Rogers
1. Be neat and clean.
2. Be courteous and polite.
3. Always obey your parents.
4. Protect the weak and help them.
5. Be brave but never take chances.
6. Study hard and learn all you can.
7. Be kind to animals and take care of them.
8. Eat all your food and never waste any.
9. Love God and go to Sunday school regularly.
10. Always respect our flag and our country.
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Back when kid's movie hero's had creeds or rules to live by for their young fans. And the kids would know them by heart.
Rider's Rules By Roy Rogers
1. Be neat and clean.
2. Be courteous and polite.
3. Always obey your parents.
4. Protect the weak and help them.
5. Be brave but never take chances.
6. Study hard and learn all you can.
7. Be kind to animals and take care of them.
8. Eat all your food and never waste any.
9. Love God and go to Sunday school regularly.
10. Always respect our flag and our country.
How could something so beautiful and good...be abandoned and made to seem weird and old-fashioned?
IMO, things started to go to hell, when momma went to work to supplement the household income.
Looking back, if only they became hookers, at least they'd still be around the house in case Johnny scraped his knee.
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All too true, NCD!
When were were kids, we were 'weaned' on Roy Rogers, Hop-a-long Cassidy, Gunsmoke and other assorted Western heroes that "...always caught the bad guy, who received his due before the 30 minute episode was over.
The good guys wore tasseled cowhide and rode white horses. The bad guys always looked dirty, constipated and had beards. LOL!
Today's youth has nothing like that. That have Spongebob Squarepants and their parents had Mutant Ninja Turtles.
:whistle:
https://www.youtube.com/v/J55S38xwxnQ
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Looking back, if only they became hookers, at least they'd still be around the house in case Johnny scraped his knee.
Every single working mom out there is a hooker for the Democrat Party. They just don't know it.
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:laugh: Why of course, you would, Luis! :beer:
I worried a lot more about my kids watching "Family Guy", "American Dad" and "South Park" than Spongebob.
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https://www.youtube.com/v/J55S38xwxnQ
Thanks for sharing that, Bigun! :beer:
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Back when kid's movie hero's had creeds or rules to live by for their young fans. And the kids would know them by heart.
Rider's Rules By Roy Rogers
1. Be neat and clean.
2. Be courteous and polite.
3. Always obey your parents.
4. Protect the weak and help them.
5. Be brave but never take chances.
6. Study hard and learn all you can.
7. Be kind to animals and take care of them.
8. Eat all your food and never waste any.
9. Love God and go to Sunday school regularly.
10. Always respect our flag and our country.
Such common sense, which now of course, is considered hate speech.