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Title: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: cuky on October 28, 2016, 03:09:21 am
Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-miss-finland-says-donald-trump-grabbed-her-in-2006-210304032.html

In a new interview, former Miss Finland Ninni Laaksonen says she was groped by Donald Trump 10 years ago. She is now the 13th woman in recent weeks to accuse the Republican presidential nominee of sexual misconduct.

According to the Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat, which published its story Thursday, the incident took place in New York City in 2006, just before Laaksonen and three other Miss Universe contestants were set to appear alongside Trump on the “Late Show With David Letterman.” Trump owned the Miss Universe beauty pageant at the time.

“Before the show we were photographed outside the building,” Laaksonen told Ilta-Sanomat. “Trump stood next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt. I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought, ‘What is happening?'”

Aaanndd… A Twelfth Trump Accuser Has Emerged

http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/10/27/aaanndd...-twelfth-trump-accuser-emerged/
On Thursday, Ninni Laaksonen, 2006’s Miss Finland, became the twelfth woman to accuse Donald Trump of being a grabby, gross, dirty old philanderer.

She’s the eleventh that has credibility, since the sex industry worker from last week, Jessica Drake is not credible and should be laughed at and ridiculed for her mercenary idiocy.

Miss Laaksonen’s tale of Trump lechery appeared in Thursday’s edition of The Telegraph.
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Regardless, this is a pattern of disturbing stories. They can’t all be false.

(Except for the porn star’s story. She’s ridiculous.)

Laaksonen’s story actually gets even creepier.

“Somebody told me that [Donald] Trump liked me because I looked like Melania [Trump] when she was younger,” she said, referencing Donald Trump’s wife, whom he married in 2005. “It left me disgusted.”

How sad for Melania Trump (if you believe that a beautiful woman of 45-years old stays married to a lascivious 70-year old
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 28, 2016, 03:29:23 am
I think another hundred of these broads can come forward and it won't matter. This issue is already baked in the cake. You either don't like Donny and believe them or like Donny and think they are lying.

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/4626348_vi.jpg)

Personally I'm neither. I hate Donny and don't believe most of these broads. There was plenty of time to come forward prior to the home stretch of the ballgame.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Chosen Daughter on October 28, 2016, 03:33:46 am
Oh she must be a liar.  You know they all are.....yuuuuuuge liars.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Frank Cannon on October 28, 2016, 06:23:05 am
Oh she must be a liar.  You know they all are.....yuuuuuuge liars.

I don't believe in coincidence. A decade to bring this to everyones attention and they all wait a couple weeks out from an election. We have tangible proof now that the DNC has been coordinating all sorts of black bag stuff against the GOP.

If these women want me to believe them, I'm not a player. There are enough real issue relating to the future of the country for me to hate him on.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on October 28, 2016, 09:02:04 am
I don't believe in coincidence. A decade to bring this to everyones attention and they all wait a couple weeks out from an election.

It has actually taken the strength of these ladies, to tell their stories, that has given me the steel to announce that I am the 14th victim of Mr. Trump.  He grabbed my butt and drooled a tic-tac on my lapel one night 14 years ago at a golf event.  At first I thought a child had reached up and brushed my backside, because the hands were so tiny.  When I turned and saw Trump my initial reaction was to scream for a month.  Not a night goes by that I don't relive that event in my nightmares.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: LMAO on October 28, 2016, 11:14:09 am
I think another hundred of these broads can come forward and it won't matter. This issue is already baked in the cake. You either don't like Donny and believe them or like Donny and think they are lying.

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/viihde/4626348_vi.jpg)

Personally I'm neither. I hate Donny and don't believe most of these broads. There was plenty of time to come forward prior to the home stretch of the ballgame.

I believe some may be true. I also believe some are just trying to derail his campaign. When I got out of the military, my first job while in college was a CNA. Well, there was this male nurse that the female staff would flirt with and he would flirt back. Two weeks into my orientation, they had their normally scheduled staff meeting were some of the women complained that this male nurse made them feel uncomfortable with his flirting. I remember thinking, "but you guys flirt with him,also."

Fortunately, this guy wasn't at the staff meeting but an older lady was that quickly confronted these women over the fact that not only did they flirt with this guy but, in many instances, initiated it.

I think Trump has a belief in his mind that being rich and famous allows him certain " rights" when it comes to women but I do think some coming forward are looking for their 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Oceander on October 28, 2016, 11:34:11 am
I believe some may be true. I also believe some are just trying to derail his campaign. When I got out of the military, my first job while in college was a CNA. Well, there was this male nurse that the female staff would flirt with and he would flirt back. Two weeks into my orientation, they had their normally scheduled staff meeting were some of the women complained that this male nurse made them feel uncomfortable with his flirting. I remember thinking, "but you guys flirt with him,also."

Fortunately, this guy wasn't at the staff meeting but an older lady was that quickly confronted these women over the fact that not only did they flirt with this guy but, in many instances, initiated it.

I think Trump has a belief in his mind that being rich and famous allows him certain " rights" when it comes to women but I do think some coming forward are looking for their 15 minutes.


Some probably are minimizing their role, but some almost certainly are not.  And do not forget that Trump did not simply confess to flirting, he confessed to sexual assault.  That is much, much different from the example you gave. 
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Longmire on October 28, 2016, 11:54:35 am
What happened to the "accuser" who swears she went on a date with Trump and he tried to kiss her?

The horror...


Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Just_Victor on October 28, 2016, 11:57:11 am
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“Before the show we were photographed outside the building,” Laaksonen told Ilta-Sanomat. “Trump stood next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt. I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought, ‘What is happening?'”

If this was indeed a photoshoot, then the pics of Trump next to Miss Finland exist somewhere.  Doesn't prove that he grabbed her but would provide credibility to the claim.

So, put up the pics or shutup.

Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: skeeter on October 28, 2016, 01:23:23 pm
If these women want me to believe them, I'm not a player. There are enough real issue relating to the future of the country for me to hate him on.

Trump's problem is he, more than the women, made the charges credible with the persona he tried to cultivate before as a just-one-of-the-boys billionaire eccentric. Its why he should've never made it this far.

But you are right, this stinks of Clinton campaign strategy.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: driftdiver on October 28, 2016, 01:47:05 pm
Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-miss-finland-says-donald-trump-grabbed-her-in-2006-210304032.html

In a new interview, former Miss Finland Ninni Laaksonen says she was groped by Donald Trump 10 years ago. She is now the 13th woman in recent weeks to accuse the Republican presidential nominee of sexual misconduct.

According to the Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat, which published its story Thursday, the incident took place in New York City in 2006, just before Laaksonen and three other Miss Universe contestants were set to appear alongside Trump on the “Late Show With David Letterman.” Trump owned the Miss Universe beauty pageant at the time.

“Before the show we were photographed outside the building,” Laaksonen told Ilta-Sanomat. “Trump stood next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt. I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought, ‘What is happening?'”

Aaanndd… A Twelfth Trump Accuser Has Emerged

http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/10/27/aaanndd...-twelfth-trump-accuser-emerged/
On Thursday, Ninni Laaksonen, 2006’s Miss Finland, became the twelfth woman to accuse Donald Trump of being a grabby, gross, dirty old philanderer.

She’s the eleventh that has credibility, since the sex industry worker from last week, Jessica Drake is not credible and should be laughed at and ridiculed for her mercenary idiocy.

Miss Laaksonen’s tale of Trump lechery appeared in Thursday’s edition of The Telegraph.
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Regardless, this is a pattern of disturbing stories. They can’t all be false.

(Except for the porn star’s story. She’s ridiculous.)

Laaksonen’s story actually gets even creepier.

“Somebody told me that [Donald] Trump liked me because I looked like Melania [Trump] when she was younger,” she said, referencing Donald Trump’s wife, whom he married in 2005. “It left me disgusted.”

How sad for Melania Trump (if you believe that a beautiful woman of 45-years old stays married to a lascivious 70-year old

@cuky
I once had the misfortune of being assigned a temporary manager over a group which consisted mostly women, 14 of the 15 people.   The previous manager had hired based on looks so while they were attractive most of them couldn't do the job.

I was asked to give them daily training on how to do their job.   Which pissed them off because they didnt want to do their job and sure didnt want me training them.  So I'd walk into the room and they'd be talking about their double D's and other related topics.  It happened frequently.

One walked up to me, stuck her chest out and asked if she needed a boob job.   Another did the ole Basic Instinct chair turn and flashed her stuff.  In both cases I was smart/lucky enough to walk away.

What I didn't know is they did those things and then went down to HR to file a complaint.   When that didn't work two of them walked into the Sr VPs office and told him I was telling people they were having "whore parties" in their house. 

At that point I decided to go find a different job.    The point is that just like men, some women are good and some are trash.   In the workplace some women have no qualms about using sex to get what they want.   The problem is exacerbated if you are in a position of authority or are perceived as having a lot of money.

Nobody around here really knows whether all these claims from these women are true.  My guess is some are true and some are lies.  Those that are true may be a case where the women were flirting with him to get something they wanted.  Of course perhaps he really is just a dirtbag.  Its quite obvious he has many other character flaws.

At the end of the day what difference does it make.   He or Clinton will be our next President.   I doubt we'll have any freedoms left if she wins.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Wingnut on October 28, 2016, 02:36:58 pm
I think it is a proven fact Trump is a serial groper.  This is just piling on now.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Night Hides Not on October 28, 2016, 02:40:21 pm
I think it is a proven fact Trump is a serial groper.  This is just piling on now.

IMHO, this piling on can only hurt Hillary, because the "Trump is a serial sex offender" meme has played itself out.

Any tightening of the polls is partly due to the backlash against the media.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Just_Victor on October 28, 2016, 02:58:33 pm
Click on link to see photoshoot

There it is.

BTW the put up or shut up wasn't directed at you.  Don't know if you took offense or not, just making sure.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: dfwgator on October 28, 2016, 03:00:45 pm
It has actually taken the strength of these ladies, to tell their stories, that has given me the steel to announce that I am the 14th victim of Mr. Trump.  He grabbed my butt and drooled a tic-tac on my lapel one night 14 years ago at a golf event.  At first I thought a child had reached up and brushed my backside, because the hands were so tiny.  When I turned and saw Trump my initial reaction was to scream for a month.  Not a night goes by that I don't relive that event in my nightmares.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOanZ4XQ94Y
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Wingnut on October 28, 2016, 03:06:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOanZ4XQ94Y


When he got to the "putter" part I was rolling on the floor!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: driftdiver on October 28, 2016, 03:11:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOanZ4XQ94Y

This issue really doesn't differentiate between the candidates.


(http://img002.lazygirls.info/people/hillary_clinton/hillary_clinton_natalie_portman_hillary_clinton_kGwQ5hg.sized.jpg)


(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/573b27f01a00002f00c28a5d.jpeg?cache=u3lszfl7fb)
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ConstitutionRose on October 28, 2016, 03:17:23 pm
There are a couple of supervisors in my past about whom I would be obligated to go public should they run for President.

The men on TBR are gentlemen of good character, so they are innocent  of some common male behaviors.  Given that, let me educated you to the fact that there are some males to whom you cannot even be polite without them assuming that you will welcome inappropriate behavior.

My experience colors my response to these women.  I am inclined to believe the majority of them.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 03:18:35 pm
I'll say the same thing to both her and Donny:


1) First a question: why didn't you mention this during the primaries?
2) Hard to deny what she said since Donny himself bragged about it.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: dfwgator on October 28, 2016, 03:18:56 pm
There are a couple of supervisors in my past about whom I would be obligated to go public should they run for President.

The men on TBR are gentlemen of good character, so they are innocent  of some common male behaviors.  Given that, let me educated you to the fact that there are some males to whom you cannot even be polite without them assuming that you will welcome inappropriate behavior.

My experience colors my response to these women.  I am inclined to believe the majority of them.

Did you believe Anita Hill?
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 28, 2016, 03:25:48 pm
One walked up to me, stuck her chest out and asked if she needed a boob job.   Another did the ole Basic Instinct chair turn and flashed her stuff.  In both cases I was smart/lucky enough to walk away....

....At that point I decided to go find a different job.    The point is that just like men, some women are good and some are trash.   In the workplace some women have no qualms about using sex to get what they want.   The problem is exacerbated if you are in a position of authority or are perceived as having a lot of money.

Nobody around here really knows whether all these claims from these women are true.  My guess is some are true and some are lies.  Those that are true may be a case where the women were flirting with him to get something they wanted.  Of course perhaps he really is just a dirtbag.  Its quite obvious he has many other character flaws.

Uh, wow.  I hadn't really looked at it quite from that angle before.  So yes, it may be true that he grabbed Ms. Finland in the ass.  It also may be true that she was deliberately flirting with him at the time so he thought it was okay.  That's a fairly plausible scenario, and doesn't require disbelieving either of them.  But if that's the case, it would put his actions in a different light -- at least to me.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 28, 2016, 03:29:31 pm
Did you believe Anita Hill?

The odd thing about her allegations was that she did not claim that his actions amounted to sexual harassment.  And she would know, given that she was a professor who taught classes on that.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ABX on October 28, 2016, 03:30:27 pm
Another he said / she said.

Who are you going to believe?

A woman who said Donald grabbed her by the *****.
Or Donald who bragged about liking to grab women by the *****.

A real confusing one who to believe at this point
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 03:31:06 pm
Another he said / she said.

Who are you going to believe?

A woman who said Donald grabbed her by the *****.
Or Donald who bragged about liking to grab women by the *****.

A real confusing one who to believe at this point


Doesn't matter, Trump is toast.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ConstitutionRose on October 28, 2016, 03:35:18 pm
Did you believe Anita Hill?

No. If there had been a history of repeated accusations, I would have considered what she had to say.  But she was so freaking obviously out to get him.  I don't know who coached her, but my reaction was complete disbelief.

Trump is like the nice looking, nicely dressed man who used to walk up to women IN DC during lunch hour and ask you "do you want to xxxx?".  He used to grab on occasion also.  In other words, a serial offender.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on October 28, 2016, 03:49:00 pm
Is there anyone he didn't grab?

(http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/rosie_odonnell/rosie_odonnell_exit_to_eden_1994h_rd31yp4.sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 28, 2016, 03:52:22 pm
Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006



Nobody cares about your stupid sex scandals.   Even if true,  they have no place in a discussion while the nation is on the edge of disaster from so many directions,  not the least of which is a f***ing war with Russia caused by that Idiot Clinton's policies. 


Stop straining at gnats while swallowing camels.   


Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Wingnut on October 28, 2016, 03:52:28 pm
(http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/rosie_odonnell/rosie_odonnell_exit_to_eden_1994h_rd31yp4.sized.jpg)


luis... for the love of God.... more warning....please...
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 03:52:57 pm
Meanwhile, in Utah, this will be the coup de grace for Trump:

Ben WinslowVerified account
‏@BenWinslow
Temple Taggart, the fmr Miss Utah Trump’s Miss Universe pageant, to hold a news conference with Gloria Allred at 12:30pm. @fox13 #utpol
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 03:54:21 pm
Meanwhile, in Utah, this will be the coup de grace for Trump:

Ben WinslowVerified account
‏@BenWinslow
Temple Taggart, the fmr Miss Utah Trump’s Miss Universe pageant, to hold a news conference with Gloria Allred at 12:30pm. @fox13 #utpol


May backfire, unless there is solid proof, which there may be.


I think it's clear there's a coordinated media attack going on here.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: sinkspur on October 28, 2016, 03:55:22 pm

May backfire, unless there is solid proof, which there may be.


I think it's clear there's a coordinated media attack going on here.

Nah.  The Mormons hate Trump and this will be just further justification to vote against him.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 03:57:55 pm
Nah.  The Mormons hate Trump and this will be just further justification to vote against him.


We'll see what she has.


Both sides claim to have "devastating" dirt on the other sides, that turns out to be mostly nothingburgers or maybe mildly compromising/embarrassing.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 03:58:23 pm
(http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/rosie_odonnell/rosie_odonnell_exit_to_eden_1994h_rd31yp4.sized.jpg)


Paper bags can do wonderous things...
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: dfwgator on October 28, 2016, 03:58:43 pm
(http://img004.lazygirls.info/people/rosie_odonnell/rosie_odonnell_exit_to_eden_1994h_rd31yp4.sized.jpg)

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2533823/why-would-you-do-that-o.gif)

"Why did you do that?"
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ExFreeper on October 28, 2016, 04:02:29 pm

(http://i.faketrumptweet.com/1gdn8u4b1j_jac3gq.png)

Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: driftdiver on October 28, 2016, 04:03:40 pm

Paper bags can do wonderous things...

If only paper bags could cover up a vile and despicable personality.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 04:03:46 pm
(http://i.faketrumptweet.com/1gdn8u4b1j_jac3gq.png)


Is it sad that I cannot tell if that is real or not?
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: 240B on October 28, 2016, 04:10:38 pm
DONALD TRUMP MOLESTED ME TOO!! Back in 1972 when I was just a kid, Donald Trump grabbed me and tried to kiss me. It was horrible! I want an interview with Megyn Kelly!
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See how easy that is? Anyone can 'claim' anything, especially if you are rich or famous. I know very wealthy men who will not even enter an elevator if there is only one woman in it. They will never be caught alone with a female for fear of some blackmail accusation  That's how easy it is. Just the accusation is enough to wreck a lot of success in life.


So now, what the media is saying is that it is not about the specious nature of the claims, but it is about the 'number' of claims. I've heard pundits say that with so many women coming forward, it must be true. Can you imagine that? Just get a couple of dozen whores together to claim some guy groped them, and 'viola', he is automatically guilty.


Obviously all this is orchestrated and being done with intent. The media gloms on to each one of these 'stories' because it suits them and their agenda. And all the while they report hour after hour, day after day, about some whore slut that Donald 'supposedly' grabbed or whatever, they ignore real factual criminal behavior by Hillary and her staff. Is the system rigged as Trump says? You tell me.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 28, 2016, 04:12:49 pm
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/10/war-in-europe-ho-hum.php
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on October 28, 2016, 04:14:00 pm

Is it sad that I cannot tell if that is real or not?

It may be the closest we could actually get to the truth.  Neither is lying.

Do I think Trump did do some of this?  Yes.  Do I think that some of those women may have been deliberately flirting with the very powerful rich guy who ran the pageant, and these may just be after-the-fact regrets?  Also yes.  And before people scoff at the idea of women flirting with some old guy, Trump was only in his late-50's/just turned 60, and if you looked at who he has been married to, there are some incredibly attractive woman who clearly found this guy very desireable.  That seems less likely now when he is 10 years older, but was likely much more true back then when these incident occurred.

There's no way to know exactly what happened, but for something as important as a presidential election that will decide the future of this country for at least four years and beyond, I'd require more evidence than this to make it a determinative factor in my decision.

But for a lot of women who have personalized/internalized this to something that occurred in their lives, I think they'll be applying a different standard.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ABX on October 28, 2016, 04:51:25 pm


Nobody cares about your stupid sex scandals.   Even if true,  they have no place in a discussion while the nation is on the edge of disaster from so many directions,  not the least of which is a f***ing war with Russia caused by that Idiot Clinton's policies. 


Stop straining at gnats while swallowing camels.

The argument was made during Bill Clinton's term that these are important because it opens up the person to extortion and blackmail. I remember a lot of discussion during Bill Clinton's revelations about how the Chinse or others may find out about other affairs and use it to blackmail him into favorable decisions.

We also have the issue of the FBI files Hillary supposedly has. Rumor is many of these have information on powerful people's affairs and she uses those to extort favors and manipulate things her way.

So yes, in that sense, it is important to know if the potential leader meets at least minimally reasonable behavior standards to protect himself from extortion.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Hurricane Andrew on October 28, 2016, 04:56:14 pm
Would it be wrong to inject that at least Trump had better taste than Bill Clinton?  </snarky comment>
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: ABX on October 28, 2016, 04:59:35 pm
Would it be wrong to inject that at least Trump had better taste than Bill Clinton?  </snarky comment>

I will give him that. He did buy decent looking wives when he needed them.  22222frying pan
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Wingnut on October 28, 2016, 05:25:17 pm
I will give him that. He did buy decent looking wives when he needed them.  22222frying pan

Trump is from the school of:

 "You are only as old, as the women you feel."
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 05:38:13 pm
I keep hearing that this all new....but it is not. Accusations and lawsuits have been around for a while. Jill Harth stands by her original assault claim where she filed a lawsuit and withdrew it after trump settle with her husband's lawsuit.

Also, trump's first wife and also Taggert.

Temple Taggart McDowell, Miss Utah, brought her allegations in May:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/miss-usa-contestant-details-encounters-trump-n665521 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/miss-usa-contestant-details-encounters-trump-n665521)

The extensive interview, which adds many new details to an accusation Taggart first made to The New York Times in May, was conducted as similar allegations from numerous other women were published for the first time Wednesday.


"I remember being shocked" by the encounter at the Miss USA pageant, McDowell said, adding: "I would have just thought to shake somebody's hand, and that was his first response with me."

"I remember feeling kind of embarrassed, like wanting to turn and wipe my mouth, like, 'What just happened?'" she said.

But "because he's the pageant owner, you're trying to make a good first impression," McDowell said, so while the encounter made her uncomfortable, "I just kind of shooed it off and kind of went along."

....

Later, McDowell said, Trump offered to help her get contracts with elite modeling agencies, and during a visit to Trump Tower in Manhattan at Trump's invitation, he again embraced and kissed her on the lips, this time in front of two pageant chaperones and a receptionist.

The New York encounter made one of the chaperones so "uncomfortable" that she advised McDowell not to go into any rooms with Trump alone, McDowell said. The other chaperone accompanied her into Trump's office, she said.

.....


The extensive interview, which adds many new details to an accusation Taggart first made to The New York Times in May, was conducted as similar allegations from numerous other women were published for the first time Wednesday.


 :shrug:


I don't even really care. Trump is going to lose. I hope Melania divorces him and takes him to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Longmire on October 28, 2016, 05:41:30 pm
Whats sad is that the FBI just announced they're reopening a criminal investigation into the Democrat nominee and the "conservatives" here are focused on ten year old nonsense like this.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 28, 2016, 05:42:19 pm
Whats sad is that the FBI just announced they're reopening a criminal investigation into the Democrat nominee and the "conservatives" here are focused on ten year old nonsense like this.


MIght be nice if we had a decent candidate that could take advantage of all this.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Wingnut on October 28, 2016, 05:44:02 pm
Whats sad is that the FBI just announced they're reopening a criminal investigation into the Democrat nominee and the "conservatives" here are focused on ten year old nonsense like this.

Don't bitch. Be a citizen reporter and report. Post away to your little pea pickin hearts desire.

You do know how to post news don't you Ace?
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Night Hides Not on October 28, 2016, 06:03:42 pm

MIght be nice if we had a decent candidate that could take advantage of all this.

I voted for Mr. Aleppo, if only to help the Libertarian Party reach 5%, and thus qualify for matching funds next time around. IMHO, there needs to be another party besides the R's and D's that is eligible for funding.

Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: Emjay on October 28, 2016, 06:58:53 pm
It has actually taken the strength of these ladies, to tell their stories, that has given me the steel to announce that I am the 14th victim of Mr. Trump.  He grabbed my butt and drooled a tic-tac on my lapel one night 14 years ago at a golf event.  At first I thought a child had reached up and brushed my backside, because the hands were so tiny.  When I turned and saw Trump my initial reaction was to scream for a month.  Not a night goes by that I don't relive that event in my nightmares.

When we post LOL, we don't always really laugh out loud, but your post did it.
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 28, 2016, 07:20:44 pm
The argument was made during Bill Clinton's term that these are important because it opens up the person to extortion and blackmail. I remember a lot of discussion during Bill Clinton's revelations about how the Chinse or others may find out about other affairs and use it to blackmail him into favorable decisions.


As a question of character,  it is indeed an indicator,  but we already know that Trump has a shady character.   So does the gal.   In fact,  hers is far worse.   She can be blackmailed for scandals a whole lot  worse than grabbing someones buttocks or talking vulgar. 

Besides,  the media told us during the Clinton regime that "sex doesn't matter,  and we prudes should just shut up about it and get with the times."   



We also have the issue of the FBI files Hillary supposedly has. Rumor is many of these have information on powerful people's affairs and she uses those to extort favors and manipulate things her way.


That would tend to explain a lot about how she keeps getting away with stuff that would get anyone else sent to prison. 





So yes, in that sense, it is important to know if the potential leader meets at least minimally reasonable behavior standards to protect himself from extortion.


Trump doesn't care.   Hillary has a lot worse skeletons in the closet for which she can be extorted.  Of course with her mindset,  she will probably just order "hits"  on anyone attempting to extort her.   
Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 28, 2016, 07:22:20 pm
I keep hearing that this all new....but it is not. Accusations and lawsuits have been around for a while. Jill Harth stands by her original assault claim where she filed a lawsuit and withdrew it after trump settle with her husband's lawsuit.



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Title: Re: Former Miss Finland says Donald Trump grabbed her in 2006
Post by: DiogenesLamp on October 28, 2016, 07:24:13 pm
Whats sad is that the FBI just announced they're reopening a criminal investigation into the Democrat nominee and the "conservatives" here are focused on ten year old nonsense like this.


Amen!  In the scheme of what is most important to America and what is most important to our lives,   that Donald Trump was grabbing buttocks 10 years ago ought to rank somewhere around number 382 in the list of things we ought to be worrying about.   


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