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Title: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: mystery-ak on January 15, 2019, 12:22:22 am
House to vote on punishing Steve King
By Cristina Marcos - 01/14/19 06:56 PM EST

House Democrats moved to punish Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) over a string of comments considered racist, with a floor vote to formally rebuke him expected on Tuesday.
 
The House is expected to take up a resolution from the No. 3 House Democrat, Majority Whip James Clyburn (S.C.), who is a senior member of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC).
 
King met with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) on Monday as Republicans also considered punishments for the lawmaker, who in an interview with The New York Times published last week questioned why the terms white supremacist and white nationalist were offensive.
 
"White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” King said in the interview. “Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425310-house-to-vote-on-punishing-steve-king
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: libertybele on January 15, 2019, 12:29:59 am
What a bunch of bull!! He didn't make this comment directed at anyone. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 12:33:40 am
Since the term 'white supremacist' doesn't make sense in the context King was using (no one i knew was taught white supremacy in HS history class) I tend to think using it was just a boneheaded mistake.

Yet there's good old freshman two weeks on the job senator Mitt Romney, calling for his head.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2019, 03:05:52 am
He's been removed from all committee positions.
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House GOP strips Steve King of committee posts over white supremacy comment
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-king-stripped-of-house-committee-assignments-over-white-supremacy-comments/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-king-stripped-of-house-committee-assignments-over-white-supremacy-comments/)

I'm saddened for him, whatever the truth here is, he was playing it on the edge 5 months ago when an article was posted on him.

There was not a full investigation from what I saw of the gateway pundit, a "railroad job"?

Kicking someone off these committees is like that district has only 40% (at the most) of a congressman.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 15, 2019, 03:19:35 am
Is this an example of "principled conservatism"?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: corbe on January 15, 2019, 03:56:38 am
GOP leaders strip Steve King of committee assignments

By Cristina Marcos and Juliegrace Brufke - 01/14/19 07:49 PM EST
 

House GOP leaders moved Monday to remove Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) from all of his committee assignments following a firestorm over remarks considered racist.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters after a meeting of the Republican Steering Committee that King would not receive any committee assignments for the new Congress.

King faced bipartisan criticism after telling The New York Times in an interview published last week, "White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?”

<..snip..>

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425328-gop-leaders-strip-steve-king-of-committee-assignments (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/425328-gop-leaders-strip-steve-king-of-committee-assignments)
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 04:06:54 am
Is this an example of "principled conservatism"?

No. It's an example of a party bankrupt of ideas and run by professional losers like Romney, McConnell and the nobody House Speaker making up some distractions to hide their impotence.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: libertybele on January 15, 2019, 04:25:25 am
No. It's an example of a party bankrupt of ideas and run ruined by professional losers like Romney, McConnell and the nobody House Speaker making up some distractions to hide their impotence.

 :shrug:
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 15, 2019, 04:26:33 am
:shrug:

You don't have to be confused by that. That statement is true too.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2019, 06:09:49 am
You're going to tell me the Congressional Black Caucus hasn't ever made a racially disparaging remark?

Yeah, right.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Applewood on January 15, 2019, 07:03:26 am
You're going to tell me the Congressional Black Caucus hasn't ever made a racially disparaging remark?

Yeah, right.

Well, I was once told that black people are incapable of racism.  Racism is the exclusive trait of whites.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on January 15, 2019, 07:44:31 am
Mitch McConnell - `There is no place in the Republican Party, the Congress or the country for an ideology of racial supremacy of any kind. I have no tolerance for such positions and those who espouse these views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms.'

Mitt Romney - "He doesn't have a place in our party, he doesn't have a place in polite company and certainly should not have a place in Congress."

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Benjy Sarlin @BenjySarlin
6 hours ago

Who would have guessed “as soon as Paul Ryan wasn’t in charge” for when Steve King would get substantively rebuked by House GOP leadership?

Big Cheers to Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.  It is long over due.




Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 02:48:02 pm
You're going to tell me the Congressional Black Caucus hasn't ever made a racially disparaging remark?

Yeah, right.

King further explained himself. Yes, he was taken out of context. Romney, McCarthy & the 'moderate' wing of the GOP are evry bit as slimy as the rats when it comes to finding ways to marginalize conservatives:

"In a 56 minute interview, we discussed the changing use of language in political discourse. We discussed the worn out label “racist” and my observation that other slanderous labels have been increasingly assigned to Conservatives by the Left, who injected into our current political dialog such terms as Nazi, Fascist, “ White Nationalist, White Supremacist,— Western Civilization, how did THAT language become offensive? Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”…just to watch Western Civilization become a derogatory term in political discourse today. Clearly, I was only referencing Western Civilization classes. No one ever sat in a class listening to the merits of white nationalism and white supremacy.

When I used the word “THAT” it was in reference ONLY to Western Civilization and NOT to any previously stated evil ideology ALL of which I have denounced.

My record as a vocal advocate for Western Civilization is nearly as full as my record in defense of Freedom of Speech."
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 03:10:49 pm
Mitch McConnell - `There is no place in the Republican Party, the Congress or the country for an ideology of racial supremacy of any kind. I have no tolerance for such positions and those who espouse these views are not supporters of American ideals and freedoms.'

Mitt Romney - "He doesn't have a place in our party, he doesn't have a place in polite company and certainly should not have a place in Congress."

Big Cheers to Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.  It is long over due.

Reading comprehension appears not to be Mitt and Mitch’s strong suit.

 @Once-Ler ?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: EdJames on January 15, 2019, 03:16:20 pm
King further explained himself. Yes, he was taken out of context. Romney, McCarthy & the 'moderate' wing of the GOP are evry bit as slimy as the rats when it comes to finding ways to marginalize conservatives:

"In a 56 minute interview, we discussed the changing use of language in political discourse. We discussed the worn out label “racist” and my observation that other slanderous labels have been increasingly assigned to Conservatives by the Left, who injected into our current political dialog such terms as Nazi, Fascist, “ White Nationalist, White Supremacist,— Western Civilization, how did THAT language become offensive? Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”…just to watch Western Civilization become a derogatory term in political discourse today. Clearly, I was only referencing Western Civilization classes. No one ever sat in a class listening to the merits of white nationalism and white supremacy.

When I used the word “THAT” it was in reference ONLY to Western Civilization and NOT to any previously stated evil ideology ALL of which I have denounced.

My record as a vocal advocate for Western Civilization is nearly as full as my record in defense of Freedom of Speech."

King got railroaded by the so called "GOP Leadership" bowing down to PC-based pressure.  What does it say about the GOP House members that McCarthy was elected "Leader?"
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 03:23:06 pm
King got railroaded by the so called "GOP Leadership" bowing down to PC-based pressure.  What does it say about the GOP House members that McCarthy was elected "Leader?"

I missed these same congresspeople calling for censure of Rep Tlaib. Cowards.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 03:27:43 pm
What a bunch of bull!! He didn't make this comment directed at anyone. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

Why is it okay for leftist loonies to constantly make outrageous comments but not for a conservative guy to have an original thought?

Just wondering.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: EdJames on January 15, 2019, 03:29:10 pm
I missed these same congresspeople calling for censure of Rep Tlaib. Cowards.

I would venture to say that they weren't much bothered by the Tlaib statements.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: jpsb on January 15, 2019, 03:31:29 pm
I hope all the Cruzers here made note of the fact that Ted Cruz did his best Sheila Jackson Lee impression by running as fast as he could to the nearest camera to condemn Rep King.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 03:31:30 pm
I would venture to say that they weren't much bothered by the Tlaib statements.

I am disgusted by the cowardice of Republicans who should be standing by this guy.

That may be the only thing democrats do right ... they don't throw their own under a bus.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: EdJames on January 15, 2019, 03:36:17 pm
I am disgusted by the cowardice of Republicans who should be standing by this guy.

That may be the only thing democrats do right ... they don't throw their own under a bus.

They are happy to have a ginned up excuse to slap down the irksome "immigration hawk."
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 03:36:45 pm
I hope all the Cruzers here made note of the fact that Ted Cruz did his best Sheila Jackson Lee impression by running as fast as he could to the nearest camera to condemn Rep King.

 *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on January 15, 2019, 03:45:49 pm
So, how are your English lessons coming along @Once-Ler ?

I dunno @aligncare ?  When I tell you to <NOPE>, do you understand?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 03:55:41 pm
I hope all the Cruzers here made note of the fact that Ted Cruz did his best Sheila Jackson Lee impression by running as fast as he could to the nearest camera to condemn Rep King.

Where did you see that @jpsb   If Cruz did condemn King, he slips a notch in my estimation and I am a total Cruzer.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 04:03:26 pm
I dunno @aligncare ?  When I tell you to <NOPE>, do you understand?

Yeah, I went back and deleted that part. The question was definitely unwarranted. You’re obviously still struggling.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: corbe on January 15, 2019, 04:04:01 pm
Ted Cruz calls Steve King's comments on white supremacy "stupid"

By Patrick Svitek

Posted: 11:57 AM, January 13, 2019

Updated: 3:45 PM, January 13, 2019


U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Sunday condemned recent comments from U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, questioning why white supremacy is seen as offensive. Cruz did not rule out lending future support to King, a central figure in his 2016 presidential campaign.

"What Steve King said was stupid," Cruz said during an interview on NBC's "Face the Nation." "It was stupid, it was hurtful, it was wrong and he needs to stop it."

<..snip..>

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/ted-cruz-calls-steve-king-s-comments-on-white-supremacy-stupid- (https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/ted-cruz-calls-steve-king-s-comments-on-white-supremacy-stupid-)
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: jpsb on January 15, 2019, 04:10:17 pm
Where did you see that @jpsb   If Cruz did condemn King, he slips a notch in my estimation and I am a total Cruzer.

@Emjay

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/cruz-what-steve-king-said-was-stupid-1425006147603 (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/cruz-what-steve-king-said-was-stupid-1425006147603)
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 04:12:04 pm
@Emjay

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/cruz-what-steve-king-said-was-stupid-1425006147603 (https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/cruz-what-steve-king-said-was-stupid-1425006147603)

Disappointing. Cruz should know better than to comment without hearing King's side first. But at least he isn't demanding his resignation.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 04:15:26 pm
Disappointing. Cruz should know better than to comment without hearing King's side first. But at least he isn't demanding his resignation.

Agreed.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 04:22:19 pm
Ted Cruz calls Steve King's comments on white supremacy "stupid"

By Patrick Svitek

Posted: 11:57 AM, January 13, 2019

Updated: 3:45 PM, January 13, 2019


U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Sunday condemned recent comments from U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, questioning why white supremacy is seen as offensive. Cruz did not rule out lending future support to King, a central figure in his 2016 presidential campaign.

"What Steve King said was stupid," Cruz said during an interview on NBC's "Face the Nation." "It was stupid, it was hurtful, it was wrong and he needs to stop it."

<..snip..>

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/ted-cruz-calls-steve-king-s-comments-on-white-supremacy-stupid- (https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/ted-cruz-calls-steve-king-s-comments-on-white-supremacy-stupid-)

Well aren’t you the first amendment warrior. You show no fear or favoritism.

Are you doing penance @corbe ? I’m really impressed lately by your choices for information to post.

 :beer:
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: corbe on January 15, 2019, 04:27:00 pm
   Too many Briefers were talking openly about putting me on their Ignore list, I figured a change in my ways seemed appropriate at this juncture,  @aligncare
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 04:35:49 pm
Disappointing. Cruz should know better than to comment without hearing King's side first. But at least he isn't demanding his resignation.

Yep.  I think it was a knee-jerk reaction which usually makes people a jerk.

Conservatives should stick together.

And, I really think it is okay to:  Be white, be conservative and (oh, horrors) be a man.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Applewood on January 15, 2019, 04:38:29 pm
Where did you see that @jpsb   If Cruz did condemn King, he slips a notch in my estimation and I am a total Cruzer.

The moment he boarded the Trump train, Cruz reminded all of us he is just another politician. He will do whatever is necessary to preserve his  political career even if it means selling out his principles and his supporters along with it.  Cruz has gauged which way the wind is blowing in the  Republican camp and he's moving right along with it. 
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: corbe on January 15, 2019, 04:39:48 pm
   So sad and so very true @Applewood
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 04:44:03 pm
Yep.  I think it was a knee-jerk reaction which usually makes people a jerk.

Conservatives should stick together.

And, I really think it is okay to:  Be white, be conservative and (oh, horrors) be a man.

I like that one, @Emjay
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on January 15, 2019, 04:45:34 pm
You’re obviously still struggling.
Did I stutter?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 04:45:46 pm
   So sad and so very true @Applewood

No, it's not.  Though this action is disappointing, Cruz is still going against the grain in many other areas.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 04:53:35 pm
The moment he boarded the Trump train, Cruz reminded all of us he is just another politician. He will do whatever is necessary to preserve his  political career even if it means selling out his principles and his supporters along with it.  Cruz has gauged which way the wind is blowing in the  Republican camp and he's moving right along with it.


How true.

As a matter of fact, every single thing wrong with politics is Trump’s fault.

Take the Mueller investigation. If it weren’t for Trump, those top echelon FBI guys would never have deliberately broken their oaths to...

FBI Oath:
...support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well ...

Orange man bad.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 05:09:49 pm
The moment he boarded the Trump train, Cruz reminded all of us he is just another politician. He will do whatever is necessary to preserve his  political career even if it means selling out his principles and his supporters along with it.  Cruz has gauged which way the wind is blowing in the  Republican camp and he's moving right along with it.

I could not disagree more, Apple.  Cruz changed his mind about Trump as did many of us.  He is a man of principle even though he did make a dumb remark about King.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2019, 05:10:26 pm
Flashback, January 19, 2018:

Quote
Tom Cotton tears into Lindsey Graham for calling him the 'Steve King of the Senate'
Joe Perticone

    Sen. Lindsey Graham referred to Sen. Tom Cotton as the "Steve King of the Senate" to paint him as a hardline opponent to a bipartisan immigration deal.

    Cotton responded on Tuesday by hitting Graham's lack of success in the 2016 presidential campaign.


WASHINGTON — Sen. Tom Cotton on Friday lashed out at fellow Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham for accusing him of being the "Steve King of the Senate" as a jab at taking hardline positions on immigration issues.

In an interview with MSNBC Friday morning, Graham chided Cotton for his positions on undocumented immigrants benefitting from the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program.

"All I can say is we're not going to end family immigration for DACA," Graham said. "The Tom Cotton approach has no viability here. You know, he's become sort of the Steve King of the Senate."

Read more at: https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-cotton-rips-lindsey-graham-steve-king-insult-2018-1 (https://www.businessinsider.com/tom-cotton-rips-lindsey-graham-steve-king-insult-2018-1)

Kind of interesting, this attests to a refusal to compromise on the issues and not saying anything racist. Though, Cotton may have been accused of that per more subtle means as he voted against the prison reform bill.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Applewood on January 15, 2019, 05:11:29 pm
No, it's not.  Though this action is disappointing, Cruz is still going against the grain in many other areas.

He's Trump's lapdog. 
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: libertybele on January 15, 2019, 05:11:39 pm
*****rollingeyes*****

Exactly.   No entirely true; he called the comment "stupid" but did not rule out his future support for him.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: TomSea on January 15, 2019, 05:25:19 pm
Cruz represents his constituency and I think he's said plenty of things that reflect that, like a week after Charlottesville, he came out and condemned white supremacy. There is nothing wrong with gauging the sentiment of your constituency and then, making a comment.

Kicking someone off of committees as King has been, has to be somewhat of a death penalty for his seat as a representative.  Is this for a temporary period or forever?

Though these are or appear to be left-wing sources, he was already getting into hot water (even more than before), last October:

Quote
Oct 25, 2018
Rep. Steve King Goes Full White Nationalist In Interview With Austrian Site
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iowa-rep-steve-king-austria-white-nationalist_us_5bca4851e4b0a8f17eec6001 (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iowa-rep-steve-king-austria-white-nationalist_us_5bca4851e4b0a8f17eec6001)

And look, this is from 2016!

Quote
December 23, 2016
Steve King Met with Leaders of Trump-Friendly Austrian Party with Nazi Roots
http://iowainformer.com/politics/2016/12/steve-king-trump-nazi-freedom-party/ (http://iowainformer.com/politics/2016/12/steve-king-trump-nazi-freedom-party/)
(granted, Nazi roots is a bit dramatic, but it does mean, they were around back in the day, a topic to research by itself)

This is not some brand new thing, I think an investigation should have been done first but King should have known, he had no room for error, he is either incredibly naive or does reflect far out opinions.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 05:27:55 pm
He's Trump's lapdog.

@Applewood   Guess you're not all that concerned about your credibility because that statement would destroy whatever was left of it.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 05:31:12 pm
He's Trump's lapdog.

Good morning, sunshine!
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 05:31:48 pm
Cruz represents his constituency and I think he's said plenty of things that reflect that, like a week after Charlottesville, he came out and condemned white supremacy. There is nothing wrong with gauging the sentiment of your constituency and then, making a comment.

Kicking someone off of committees as King has been, has to be somewhat of a death penalty for his seat as a representative.  Is this for a temporary period or forever?

Though these are or appear to be left-wing sources, he was already getting into hot water (even more than before), last October:

And look, this is from 2016!
(granted, Nazi roots is a bit dramatic, but it does mean, they were around back in the day, a topic to research by itself)

This is not some brand new thing, I think an investigation should have been done first but King should have known, he had no room for error, he is either incredibly naive or does reflect far out opinions.

King may not be everybody's cup of cocoa but he raises some valid points about the corruption of language by the left and the snowflakes.

So, it is okay for a new representative to make all kinds of outrageous comments, accuse everyone of being, racist but it is not okay to say being a white person is okay.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 05:32:19 pm
Cruz represents his constituency and I think he's said plenty of things that reflect that, like a week after Charlottesville, he came out and condemned white supremacy. There is nothing wrong with gauging the sentiment of your constituency and then, making a comment.

Kicking someone off of committees as King has been, has to be somewhat of a death penalty for his seat as a representative.  Is this for a temporary period or forever?

Though these are or appear to be left-wing sources, he was already getting into hot water (even more than before), last October:

And look, this is from 2016!
(granted, Nazi roots is a bit dramatic, but it does mean, they were around back in the day, a topic to research by itself)

This is not some brand new thing, I think an investigation should have been done first but King should have known, he had no room for error, he is either incredibly naive or does reflect far out opinions.

That appears to be the situation.  This comment, alone, would not destroy his support, but it's the sum of things he's said over time.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 05:55:56 pm
Cruz represents his constituency and I think he's said plenty of things that reflect that, like a week after Charlottesville, he came out and condemned white supremacy. There is nothing wrong with gauging the sentiment of your constituency and then, making a comment.

Kicking someone off of committees as King has been, has to be somewhat of a death penalty for his seat as a representative.  Is this for a temporary period or forever?

Though these are or appear to be left-wing sources, he was already getting into hot water (even more than before), last October:

And look, this is from 2016!
(granted, Nazi roots is a bit dramatic, but it does mean, they were around back in the day, a topic to research by itself)

This is not some brand new thing, I think an investigation should have been done first but King should have known, he had no room for error, he is either incredibly naive or does reflect far out opinions.

I have no problem maintaining a strict code of morality in congress as long as both sides are held to the same standard. But they are not.

Allowing the rats to maintain their noxious, anti semetic, anti white associations while busting Steve King down for what probably was a perfectly innocuous statement because it SOUNDED objectionable is a dangerous road to travel.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 06:26:39 pm
I have no problem maintaining a strict code of morality in congress as long as both sides are held to the same standard. But they are not.

Allowing the rats to maintain their noxious, anti semetic, anti white associations while busting Steve King down for what probably was a perfectly innocuous statement because it SOUNDED objectionable is a dangerous road to travel.

Could not agree more @skeeter   We are going down a dangerous road if we sanction our own for making perfectly reasonable (though maybe not PC) comments.

I am furious at Republicans for their reaction.  They should have supported King and compared his comment to some of the really outrageous things said, and applauded, by leftist pols.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 15, 2019, 06:34:01 pm
This is the hill y'all are standing on?

A back-bench Congressman from Iowa with a chronic case of verbal diarrhea in regard to racial issues that dates back over a decade?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 06:40:44 pm
Could not agree more @skeeter   We are going down a dangerous road if we sanction our own for making perfectly reasonable (though maybe not PC) comments.

I am furious at Republicans for their reaction.  They should have supported King and compared his comment to some of the really outrageous things said, and applauded, by leftist pols.

If this had been the first bone-headed, obnoxious thing King had ever said I would agree with that.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: corbe on January 15, 2019, 06:52:14 pm
    A bit dated.

Is Steve King too toxic for Trump?

Caitlin Dickson
Reporter

Yahoo News  November 03, 2018


Disavowed by the National Republican Congressional Committee and abandoned by several of his corporate donors for racist rhetoric and ties to far right extremists, embattled Iowa Rep. Steve King seemed to be grasping for support last week as he struggled to get his reelection campaign on track ahead of Tuesday’s election.

On Twitter Wednesday, King shared tweets of support from Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and Ralph Norman, a Republican candidate for the House of Representatives from South Carolina. In an interview with Bloomberg News, King said he’d also received a supportive call from Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. In response to questions from reporters, Cruz called King’s rhetoric “disappointing” but declined to condemn the congressman, a key backer of Cruz’s 2016 presidential bid. Cruz’s campaign spokeswoman told Bloomberg that the call to King was “personal” and that “Sen. Cruz told him the same thing he said to reporters.”

After running a bare-bones campaign, King participated in a candidate forum in Des Moines, Iowa, Thursday that went off the rails when he lashed out at a member of the public who asked whether King shared the same ideology as the man charged with killing 11 people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh last weekend.

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Trump had supported King as far back as 2014, before his own entry into national politics. But King had not returned the favor; in the 2016 campaign he backed Cruz, describing him as “the constitutional conservative that can restore the soul of America.” With King’s support, Cruz beat Trump in the 2016 Iowa caucus, almost derailing Trump at the very start of the primaries.

https://news.yahoo.com/steve-king-toxic-trump-005816716.html (https://news.yahoo.com/steve-king-toxic-trump-005816716.html)
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 06:57:26 pm
If this had been the first bone-headed, obnoxious thing King had ever said I would agree with that.

Okay, I may have jumped on the King bandwagon early and I do think he was stupid to agree to a gotcha interview but I found nothing obnoxious about his remarks in the interview.

They were just shocking because we're not allowed to say those things anymore.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 07:01:05 pm
    A bit dated.

Is Steve King too toxic for Trump?

Caitlin Dickson
Reporter

Yahoo News  November 03, 2018


Disavowed by the National Republican Congressional Committee and abandoned by several of his corporate donors for racist rhetoric and ties to far right extremists, embattled Iowa Rep. Steve King seemed to be grasping for support last week as he struggled to get his reelection campaign on track ahead of Tuesday’s election.

On Twitter Wednesday, King shared tweets of support from Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert and Ralph Norman, a Republican candidate for the House of Representatives from South Carolina. In an interview with Bloomberg News, King said he’d also received a supportive call from Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas. In response to questions from reporters, Cruz called King’s rhetoric “disappointing” but declined to condemn the congressman, a key backer of Cruz’s 2016 presidential bid. Cruz’s campaign spokeswoman told Bloomberg that the call to King was “personal” and that “Sen. Cruz told him the same thing he said to reporters.”

After running a bare-bones campaign, King participated in a candidate forum in Des Moines, Iowa, Thursday that went off the rails when he lashed out at a member of the public who asked whether King shared the same ideology as the man charged with killing 11 people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh last weekend.

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Trump had supported King as far back as 2014, before his own entry into national politics. But King had not returned the favor; in the 2016 campaign he backed Cruz, describing him as “the constitutional conservative that can restore the soul of America.” With King’s support, Cruz beat Trump in the 2016 Iowa caucus, almost derailing Trump at the very start of the primaries.

https://news.yahoo.com/steve-king-toxic-trump-005816716.html (https://news.yahoo.com/steve-king-toxic-trump-005816716.html)

Very interesting @corbe   Thanks for posting.  So King's support of Ted Cruz helped Ted win the Iowa caucus along with other things but Cruz called King stupid?

Who to trust?  Who to trust?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 07:03:30 pm
This is the hill y'all are standing on?

A back-bench Congressman from Iowa with a chronic case of verbal diarrhea in regard to racial issues that dates back over a decade?

We've got to stand somewhere @jmyrlefuller   And I think we should be as protective of our side's verbal diarrhea as the Dems and media are of their sides.

Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2019, 07:09:39 pm
If this had been the first bone-headed, obnoxious thing King had ever said I would agree with that.
Just for once lets use the "equality" metric.

Will either the bug eyed woman from the Bronx or Mz. unapologetic "Impeach the Motherf***er!" Muslim from Michigan get censured?
Will they be stripped of any assignments?

The increasing apologetic knee-jerk reaction to every feigned insult over Western (yes, Caucasian, too) Civilization (Yes, we built this!) being the superior form of human existence to this day will destroy not only this nation, but will propel humanity into a new dark age few here can imagine.

It was the tenets of that Western Civilization that brought about this country, our Constitution, and the entire American way of life--and has saved the rest of the world from worse, when it did not demand it.

Stop the backpedaling, whiny apologetic attitude for being what we are, WHO we are, and quit shredding our own every time the Leftists point a finger. If so many groups once considered sick, criminal, etc. can parade their 'pride', why in the hell can't we just make a few factual statements about the historical background of our Liberty?

IMHO, the only thing King did wrong was to give the NYT pickers an interview.  Those people are not friend to anyone to the Right of Karl Marx, nor an iota more virtuous than Satan himself. He could have spoken only of Jesus and puppies and they'd have found a way for someone to be offended.

Even more unforgivable is the persistent syndrome of throwing anyone the media peep about under the bus with the clamor to be the one to back over them again and again--not by the Libmedia, but by the supposed conservatives in Congress.

With such standard bearers and defenders of the faith, this Republic is doomed.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2019, 08:16:20 pm
Very interesting @corbe   Thanks for posting.  So King's support of Ted Cruz helped Ted win the Iowa caucus along with other things but Cruz called King stupid?

Who to trust?  Who to trust?

No, Cruz said that what King said was stupid.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2019, 08:26:03 pm
Just for once lets use the "equality" metric.

Will either the bug eyed woman from the Bronx or Mz. unapologetic "Impeach the Motherf***er!" Muslim from Michigan get censured?
Will they be stripped of any assignments?

The increasing apologetic knee-jerk reaction to every feigned insult over Western (yes, Caucasian, too) Civilization (Yes, we built this!) being the superior form of human existence to this day will destroy not only this nation, but will propel humanity into a new dark age few here can imagine.

It was the tenets of that Western Civilization that brought about this country, our Constitution, and the entire American way of life--and has saved the rest of the world from worse, when it did not demand it.

Stop the backpedaling, whiny apologetic attitude for being what we are, WHO we are, and quit shredding our own every time the Leftists point a finger. If so many groups once considered sick, criminal, etc. can parade their 'pride', why in the hell can't we just make a few factual statements about the historical background of our Liberty?

IMHO, the only thing King did wrong was to give the NYT pickers an interview.  Those people are not friend to anyone to the Right of Karl Marx, nor an iota more virtuous than Satan himself. He could have spoken only of Jesus and puppies and they'd have found a way for someone to be offended.

Even more unforgivable is the persistent syndrome of throwing anyone the media peep about under the bus with the clamor to be the one to back over them again and again--not by the Libmedia, but by the supposed conservatives in Congress.

With such standard bearers and defenders of the faith, this Republic is doomed.

As usual the state and its toads aren't being entirely honest about their motives. It should be clear by now that there's something more at play in these situations than justice and equality.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 08:48:07 pm
Just for once lets use the "equality" metric.

Will either the bug eyed woman from the Bronx or Mz. unapologetic "Impeach the Motherf***er!" Muslim from Michigan get censured?
Will they be stripped of any assignments?

The increasing apologetic knee-jerk reaction to every feigned insult over Western (yes, Caucasian, too) Civilization (Yes, we built this!) being the superior form of human existence to this day will destroy not only this nation, but will propel humanity into a new dark age few here can imagine.

It was the tenets of that Western Civilization that brought about this country, our Constitution, and the entire American way of life--and has saved the rest of the world from worse, when it did not demand it.

Stop the backpedaling, whiny apologetic attitude for being what we are, WHO we are, and quit shredding our own every time the Leftists point a finger. If so many groups once considered sick, criminal, etc. can parade their 'pride', why in the hell can't we just make a few factual statements about the historical background of our Liberty?

IMHO, the only thing King did wrong was to give the NYT pickers an interview.  Those people are not friend to anyone to the Right of Karl Marx, nor an iota more virtuous than Satan himself. He could have spoken only of Jesus and puppies and they'd have found a way for someone to be offended.

Even more unforgivable is the persistent syndrome of throwing anyone the media peep about under the bus with the clamor to be the one to back over them again and again--not by the Libmedia, but by the supposed conservatives in Congress.

With such standard bearers and defenders of the faith, this Republic is doomed.

Total amen to all you said @Smokin Joe   You said all that I've been thinking and said it better.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Emjay on January 15, 2019, 08:54:26 pm
I believe the powers that be have decided it's a good thing to have a daily thread devoted to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

She is the current media darling and a total nutcase and I don't believe we should be wasting our time with her.  She is a fad and a terminally stupid one, but she is a good illustration of what we will tolerate and what we won't.

The right is shooting itself in the foot by going along with all the political correctness and failing to stand by one of their own who is an intelligent man who makes decent points.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Free Vulcan on January 15, 2019, 09:48:06 pm
What a bunch of bull!! He didn't make this comment directed at anyone. This is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

I met and talked with Steve King back in the political days when he was helping to stump for Fred Thompson. He's like every other conservative - tired of the PC crap and the constant need for white apology.

Now that I read the full context of his statement, they're obviously out to get him. They never have liked him because he is too much of a firebrand.

Meanwhile, far worse inflammatory statements are made on the other side nearly every day with no consequence.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 10:51:53 pm
Ordinary regular Americans (un-hyphenated Americans) are sick and tired of reverse discrimination tolerated under the mantle of racial justice. Liberal government determined some time ago to put its thumb on the scales and that is just plain wrong.

I was born in Italy but I have never thought to call myself an Italian-American – I’m an American. And I’ve got naturalization papers to show for it.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2019, 10:54:24 pm
If this had been the first bone-headed, obnoxious thing King had ever said I would agree with that.

Yeah but they are screwing him like a tied up goat.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 10:57:27 pm
Yeah but they are screwing him like a tied up goat.

LOL. You must be a howl at dinner parties.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2019, 10:59:09 pm
LOL. You must be a howl at dinner parties.

I'm mildly amusing!   :beer:
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: aligncare on January 15, 2019, 11:03:33 pm
I'm mildly amusing!   :beer:

Noël Coward, was mildly amusing. You, are a hoot!  :beer:
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Wingnut on January 15, 2019, 11:18:42 pm
Noël Coward, was mildly amusing. You, are a hoot!  :beer:
Last night Mod 8 would have disagreed with you!   888mouth
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: RetBobbyMI on January 15, 2019, 11:37:16 pm
If King gets no Committee assignments, then he will have plenty of time to sit on the floor of the house and object to anything and everything to be a thorn in their sides. Force the parliamentary process to grind to a halt.
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: Fishrrman on January 16, 2019, 02:04:04 am
Smokin' Joe wrote:
"The increasing apologetic knee-jerk reaction to every feigned insult over Western (yes, Caucasian, too) Civilization (Yes, we built this!) being the superior form of human existence to this day will destroy not only this nation, but will propel humanity into a new dark age few here can imagine."

Worth repeating.
There are some publications that have been saying this for years, but even the mention of them by name here would initiate the vapors in some members.

"White nationalism"?
Hey, I'm kind of a "nationalist" for the USA, and I happen to be... white.
So.... what?

"White supremacy"?
If there is any race that can claim "supremacy" based on IQ, it's the Asians, not the whites.
And Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ of all, as an ethnic group.

The "supremacy" of Western Civilization?
Of course.
Do you really believe otherwise?
If so, what are you doing in this forum?
Title: Re: House to vote on punishing Steve King
Post by: dfwgator on January 16, 2019, 02:11:01 am
Everyone....regardless of race can choose to belong to Western Civilization and enjoy the fruits thereof.