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Title: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: mystery-ak on March 03, 2017, 03:16:19 am
 USA TODAY
Tony Cook
2 hrs ago

INDIANAPOLIS — Vice President Mike Pence routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues.

Emails released to The Indianapolis Star in response to a public records request show Pence communicated via his personal AOL account with top advisers on topics ranging from security gates at the governor’s residence to the state’s response to terror attacks across the globe. In one email, Pence’s top state homeland security adviser relayed an update from the FBI regarding the arrests of several men on federal terror-related charges.

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Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: endicom on March 03, 2017, 03:34:01 am
I would know better than to do this.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: EC on March 03, 2017, 03:34:41 am
Well, then he should be prosecuted and suffer the appropriate penalties. Just like a certain Sec State was and did.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 03, 2017, 03:41:29 am
Chosen Daughter shakes head.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 03, 2017, 03:42:57 am
Well, then he should be prosecuted and suffer the appropriate penalties. Just like a certain Sec State was and did.


She was investigated (not prosecuted) for mishandling classified materiel wasn't she?


Doubt Pence had any think like that as governor of Indiana.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Norm Lenhart on March 03, 2017, 03:47:00 am

INDIANAPOLIS — Vice President Mike Pence routinely used a private email account to conduct public business as governor of Indiana, at times discussing sensitive matters and homeland security issues.

Vice Presidents arent picked for their intelligence. They are picked to provide job security for the President. Anyone want to argue Biden was a MENSA scholar?

Case rests.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 03, 2017, 03:49:36 am

She was investigated (not prosecuted) for mishandling classified materiel wasn't she?


Doubt Pence had any think like that as governor of Indiana.

She should have been imprisoned.  Secretary of State makes the information that can be hacked criminal.  A threat to the whole country.  Not that Governors don't also have sensitive material.  I am sure they do.  Just not at the level of what the Secretary of State is sending.

If the law forbids for Governors he should be punished also according to the law.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: libertybele on March 03, 2017, 03:53:55 am
Gee, get rid of Trump and Pence and voila; we have Ryan!  Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: RetBobbyMI on March 03, 2017, 03:57:32 am
Evidently there was nothing wrong with it BEFORE the election, just sayin...right Hillary?
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2017, 03:58:37 am
Gee, get rid of Trump and Pence and voila; we have Ryan!  Just sayin'.

That's exactly what the Deep State is hoping for.  Can't wait to see who they select as VP.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: endicom on March 03, 2017, 04:01:29 am
Gee, get rid of Trump and Pence and voila; we have Ryan!  Just sayin'.


This wouldn't sink Pence but is, if true and the whole story, valid criticism.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2017, 04:04:39 am

This wouldn't sink Pence but is, if true and the whole story, valid criticism.

If the Deep State wants it to sink Pence, it will sink Pence.  Methinks it's an opening salvo in his direction.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Idiot on March 03, 2017, 04:06:43 am
This gotcha crap has just got to stop.....
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2017, 04:09:56 am
This gotcha crap has just got to stop.....

Agree.  And sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Idiot on March 03, 2017, 04:14:02 am
Agree.  And sooner rather than later.
Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts,although the law is generally interpreted to mean that official business conducted on private email must be retained for public record purposes.

Hmmm....pretty well kills the gotcha on this one....
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 03, 2017, 04:17:15 am
Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts,although the law is generally interpreted to mean that official business conducted on private email must be retained for public record purposes.

Hmmm....pretty well kills the gotcha on this one....

Great find!  I'll be passing this tidbit along.  ^-^

@mrpotatohead
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: endicom on March 03, 2017, 04:24:22 am
If the Deep State wants it to sink Pence, it will sink Pence.  Methinks it's an opening salvo in his direction.


Oh, they'll keep trying. Relentlessly, and against any and all of this administration. Until and unless they see it not working.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: TomSea on March 03, 2017, 04:24:37 am
Reporters report, remember when Hillary was caught, we also then got reports,

"Well, Colin Powell used a private email server"; I'm also seeing Jeb Bush did. In dispute is whether Condoleeza Rice did. But for something like this, I might not expect for this to be necessarily kept secret for public figures.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: XenaLee on March 03, 2017, 04:29:11 am
This gotcha crap has just got to stop.....

This gotcha crap is just beginning.   The idiot left is just getting warmed up.   
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: jmyrlefuller on March 03, 2017, 04:32:33 am
Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts,although the law is generally interpreted to mean that official business conducted on private email must be retained for public record purposes.

Hmmm....pretty well kills the gotcha on this one....
Indeed, and since the records were properly archived and turned over, and this is not federal or particularly sensitive material being mishandled, this is a nothingburger.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: geronl on March 03, 2017, 07:03:29 am
but it's okay when we do it.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 03, 2017, 12:10:56 pm
Well, then he should be prosecuted and suffer the appropriate penalties. Just like a certain Sec State was and did.
Careful, the last time we had a Prez the Dems really didn't like, they went for the VP first.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: American Faith Today on March 03, 2017, 12:53:14 pm
She should have been imprisoned.  Secretary of State makes the information that can be hacked criminal.  A threat to the whole country.  Not that Governors don't also have sensitive material.  I am sure they do.  Just not at the level of what the Secretary of State is sending.

If the law forbids for Governors he should be punished also according to the law.

Exactly

What does the law of Indiana say on the matter?  That's the key thing.

I'm not saying it was wise.  It definitely wasn't.

But unless Indiana law says don't do that and Pence agreed that he wouldn't do that, then this again is the press trying to play gotcha.

Look, I still don't like or trust Trump.  As a matter of fact, and I'm sure this puts me in the minority here, but given that every president more or less does what he is told by the central bankers who truly run the country, I pretty much don't fully trust any president.

That said, the desperation of the media to nitpick anything Republican is a colossal embarrassment to the idea of true journalism.

This perhaps isn't nitpicking.  But Trump putting ketchup on his steak and Kellyanne Conway putting her shoes on the oval office couch is.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: kevindavis007 on March 03, 2017, 01:19:47 pm
but it's okay when we do it.


We can't have it both ways..
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: libertybele on March 03, 2017, 01:39:52 pm

Oh, they'll keep trying. Relentlessly, and against any and all of this administration. Until and unless they see it not working.

Unfortunately, it is working.  Flynn stepped down, Sessions recused himself and what VP Pence does has yet to be seen.  How many cabinet nominations are still waiting for approval?  Meanwhile the left will continue to use Russia as their reason for investigations and accusations.  They have found an avenue to dismantle this administration, cabinet member by cabinet member and IMHO it's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 03, 2017, 01:56:20 pm

This wouldn't sink Pence but is, if true and the whole story, valid criticism.

Why? Is it illegal or improper? I can't find where it is.

There are no security clearances or protocols for Govs.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/32/154.16
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Wingnut on March 03, 2017, 02:13:24 pm
Who uses AOhell anymore?   
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 03, 2017, 02:16:47 pm
Who uses AOhell anymore?

The guy who looks like he walked right of of 1958...

(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/10/Mike-Pence-Simi-Valley-Reagan-Library-Getty-640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 03, 2017, 02:45:58 pm
Unfortunately, it is working.  Flynn stepped down, Sessions recused himself and what VP Pence does has yet to be seen.  How many cabinet nominations are still waiting for approval?  Meanwhile the left will continue to use Russia as their reason for investigations and accusations.  They have found an avenue to dismantle this administration, cabinet member by cabinet member and IMHO it's only going to get worse.
If the Trump administration wasn't aware that it would be under the microscope before, it should be painfully obvious by now. The only way to cut off the Cloward-Piven Liberal Media assault is to leave them a few tidbits so trivial that the average American tunes them out.

While that might be good, it's dangerous for America, too.

Better yet, quit feeding the beast, quit fanning the flames, clean up the leakers and Dem moles throughout the bureaucracy, and get on with running the country. Sit up straight, like your grandma told you, and play by the rules.
Being consumed by tempests in teapots will not make America ready for the typhoon coming, but sure distract from getting the job done.

It is the late '60s all over again as aging hippies who think they have 'won' seek to revive their sense of 'relevancy' by staging grey haired vagina costume marches and legalizing pot. Ever the Communist 'champions of the proletariat', they promote not only those they exploit living in crime-ridden squalor under the expanding thumb of the State, but aim to destroy the rest of those Americans who opposed the back when, along with their progeny. They're vindictive America (and American)-haters and will use anyone to further their aims of destruction of the Republic. They see Trump as the 'new Nixon' (even though it was LBJ who escalated the war against their Communist pals).

Expect chaos in the streets by summer, with a full court media press on the administration are to be expected if this garbage isn't nipped in the bud.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 03, 2017, 02:48:39 pm
Why? Is it illegal or improper? I can't find where it is.

There are no security clearances or protocols for Govs.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/32/154.16
Spot-on, Frank. If there is no law to break, he didn't break the law.

Hillary, on the other hand, should be in Gitmo or Leavenworth.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Idaho_Cowboy on March 03, 2017, 09:22:03 pm
Indiana law does not prohibit public officials from using personal email accounts,although the law is generally interpreted to mean that official business conducted on private email must be retained for public record purposes.

Hmmm....pretty well kills the gotcha on this one....
Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing was much better than this stage play the democrats are putting on.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: andy58-in-nh on March 03, 2017, 10:05:10 pm
Who uses AOhell anymore?
People who still have 2400 baud modems.
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Wingnut on March 03, 2017, 11:07:48 pm
People who still have 2400 baud modems.

I can send a 33.6 laptop card with X-Jack connector. 
(http://www.esaitech.com/images/detailed/8/SSS/img50321.jpg)
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: andy58-in-nh on March 03, 2017, 11:51:56 pm
I can send a 33.6 laptop card with X-Jack connector. 
(http://www.esaitech.com/images/detailed/8/SSS/img50321.jpg)
That'll bring 'em up to speed. Beats the heck out of the old acoustic couplers...
(http://www.thomaseboard.com/proto/museum/tandyacousticcoupler.jpg)
Laugh if you want to, but this reminds me of a girl I used to date....
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 04, 2017, 12:06:25 am
That'll bring 'em up to speed. Beats the heck out of the old acoustic couplers...
(http://www.thomaseboard.com/proto/museum/tandyacousticcoupler.jpg)
Laugh if you want to, but this reminds me of a girl I used to date....
I remember both of those (but not the girl, if that's any consolation)..
Title: Re: Pence used personal email for state business — and was hacked
Post by: Sanguine on March 04, 2017, 02:13:24 am
Gee, get rid of Trump and Pence and voila; we have Ryan!  Just sayin'.

Ryan?  But, we don't want Ryan.