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Title: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 15, 2018, 04:18:23 pm
Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
NY Post, Jan 14, 2018, Max Jaeger

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The Hawaii public employee who plunged the state into chaos by accidentally sending out an incoming-missile emergency alert Saturday has been reassigned, according to reports.

The unnamed emergency department worker will not be fired because he made an honest mistake, Hawaii Emergency Management Agency spokesman Richard Rapoza told the Washington Post.

“Part of the problem was it was too easy — for anyone — to make such a big mistake,” Rapoza said. “We have to make sure that we’re not looking for retribution, but we should be fixing the problems in the system. … I know that it’s a very, very difficult situation for him.”


More:  https://nypost.com/2018/01/14/worker-who-sent-out-hawaii-missile-alert-re-assigned/
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: dfwgator on January 15, 2018, 04:19:08 pm
Trump needs to order a full investigation on this.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 15, 2018, 04:21:35 pm
I don't know .. it seems to me this is the perfect time for a little career counseling:  This is obviously not the place for you.  Here's a very generous severance package and six pre-paid visits to the Happy Outplacement Company.  Use both wisely.  As soon as you leave, we're changing all the locks, computer accesses and will shoot to do more than wound if you show your face here again.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Concerned on January 15, 2018, 04:21:38 pm
Trump needs to order a full investigation on this.

Apparently a "full investigation" is underway:

“It obviously caused panic in this case, but also, very importantly, most people are familiar with the story of ‘The Boy Who Cried Wolf’, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai told FOX & Friends on Monday. “The worst thing, going forward, would be for these false alerts to undermine public confidence in the wireless emergency alerting system because, when a real emergency hits, you want people to take that information seriously.”

Pai said the FCC is working with FEMA, elected officials and Hawaii Emergency Management Agency staff as part of their “full investigation” to figure out what went wrong Saturday."


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/15/hawaiis-false-missile-alert-fcc-chief-warns-about-boy-who-cried-wolf-effect.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/15/hawaiis-false-missile-alert-fcc-chief-warns-about-boy-who-cried-wolf-effect.html)
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: skeeter on January 15, 2018, 04:22:23 pm
I don't know .. it seems to me this is the perfect time for a little career counseling:  This is obviously not the place for you.  Here's a very generous severance package and six pre-paid visits to the Happy Outplacement Company.  Use both wisely.  As soon as you leave, we're changing all the locks, computer accesses and will shoot to do more than wound if you show your face here again.

Have a nice day.

PS CNN has openings.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: dfwgator on January 15, 2018, 04:23:17 pm
I don't know .. it seems to me this is the perfect time for a little career counseling:  This is obviously not the place for you.  Here's a very generous severance package and six pre-paid visits to the Happy Outplacement Company.  Use both wisely.  As soon as you leave, we're changing all the locks, computer accesses and will shoot to do more than wound if you show your face here again.

Have a nice day.

He needs to be in the same unemployment line as that Saints' defensive back.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 15, 2018, 04:28:57 pm
Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist inside my head, or maybe it's the spirit of the times, but am I the only one wondering if this was really an accident... or a deliberate act by someone with a political axe to grind?  *hmmmm*
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Concerned on January 15, 2018, 04:32:51 pm
Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist inside my head, or maybe it's the spirit of the times, but am I the only one wondering if this was really an accident... or a deliberate act by someone with a political axe to grind?  *hmmmm*

A Republican trying to make the Democratic governor and/or his head of emergency management look bad?  Doubtful to me.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 15, 2018, 04:48:04 pm
A Republican trying to make the Democratic governor and/or his head of emergency management look bad?  Doubtful to me.

I was thinking a Democrat trying to make the current administration look bad... after all "it's their fault that our relationship with North Korea is so bad!", etc.

Or maybe just a prankster or anarchist-type trying to sow chaos...  or just a plain old nut job.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: edpc on January 15, 2018, 04:48:56 pm
Has he been reassigned to manning that Russia reset button?
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Sanguine on January 15, 2018, 04:49:26 pm
Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist inside my head, or maybe it's the spirit of the times, but am I the only one wondering if this was really an accident... or a deliberate act by someone with a political axe to grind?  *hmmmm*

I wondered that too. More of the divide and conquer confuse them with BS tactic that has worked so well for the bad guys so far.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Concerned on January 15, 2018, 04:50:19 pm
I was thinking a Democrat trying to make the current administration look bad... after all "it's their fault that our relationship with North Korea is so bad!", etc.

I think this incident was clearly a state issue, and a failure of proper procedures and safe guards at the state level which is led by a Democrat.  The head of the state’s emergency management organization, Vern Miyagi took responsibility and said:  "We made a mistake,” and the Democratic Governor apologized and promised action:  "I am sorry for the pain and confusion it caused. I, too, am extremely upset about this and am doing everything I can do to immediately improve our emergency management systems, procedures and staffing." 
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 15, 2018, 04:56:04 pm
I think this incident was clearly a state issue, and a failure of proper procedures and safe guards at the state level which is led by a Democrat.  The head of the state’s emergency management organization, Vern Miyagi took responsibility and said:  "We made a mistake,” and the Democratic Governor apologized and promised action:  "I am sorry for the pain and confusion it caused. I, too, am extremely upset about this and am doing everything I can do to immediately improve our emergency management systems, procedures and staffing."

Yeah, add more bureacrats, that will fix the problem.

Maybe I should apply for the job. I have practical experience in handling Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical (NBC) situations. However, that was 40 years ago...lol.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Ghost Bear on January 15, 2018, 05:05:26 pm
I think this incident was clearly a state issue, and a failure of proper procedures and safe guards at the state level which is led by a Democrat.  The head of the state’s emergency management organization, Vern Miyagi took responsibility and said:  "We made a mistake,” and the Democratic Governor apologized and promised action:  "I am sorry for the pain and confusion it caused. I, too, am extremely upset about this and am doing everything I can do to immediately improve our emergency management systems, procedures and staffing."

Yes, clearly it was a state issue.  That didn't stop the libtards in the twit-verse from blaming Trump, did it?
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: dfwgator on January 15, 2018, 05:06:37 pm
I think this incident was clearly a state issue, and a failure of proper procedures and safe guards at the state level which is led by a Democrat.  The head of the state’s emergency management organization, Vern Miyagi took responsibility and said:  "We made a mistake,” and the Democratic Governor apologized and promised action:  "I am sorry for the pain and confusion it caused. I, too, am extremely upset about this and am doing everything I can do to immediately improve our emergency management systems, procedures and staffing."

Was Pearl Harbor a "State Issue"?
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Concerned on January 15, 2018, 05:12:23 pm
Yes, clearly it was a state issue.  That didn't stop the libtards in the twit-verse from blaming Trump, did it?

I believe the attempts to blame Trump have been fairly isolated and largely rebuffed especially when state officials say it was a state problem, their mistake, and they apologized for it.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Concerned on January 15, 2018, 05:12:34 pm
Was Pearl Harbor a "State Issue"?

No.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2018, 07:05:27 pm
I hope he was "reassigned" to emptying trash cans or raking leaves, something a little less dangerous.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: edpc on January 15, 2018, 07:43:44 pm
I hope he was "reassigned" to emptying trash cans or raking leaves, something a little less dangerous.


I'm sure he issued a sincere "Sorry 'bout that, brah."
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: mountaineer on January 15, 2018, 08:44:06 pm
 Federalist Musket‏ @Patriot_Musket

For any of you who demand job security, I recommend applying to Hawaiian Civil Defense.
11:13 AM - 15 Jan 2018
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Fishrrman on January 16, 2018, 01:33:41 am
Ghost Bear wrote:
"Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist inside my head, or maybe it's the spirit of the times, but am I the only one wondering if this was really an accident... or a deliberate act by someone with a political axe to grind?  *hmmmm*"

Methinks you be gettin' a little too close to da truth!
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 16, 2018, 02:37:17 am
Yeah, add more bureacrats, that will fix the problem.

Maybe I should apply for the job. I have practical experience in handling Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical (NBC) situations. However, that was 40 years ago...lol.

Was this your job?

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Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: edpc on January 16, 2018, 02:41:20 am
I have practical experience in handling Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical (NBC) situations.


Ever work at Edgewood Arsenal?
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Suppressed on January 16, 2018, 01:22:47 pm
Was Pearl Harbor a "State Issue"?

Of course not. Hawaii didn't become a state in 1959.

Trivium: an attack on Hawaii wouldn't trigger NATO Article 5 obligations.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Suppressed on January 16, 2018, 01:24:03 pm
Trump needs to order a full investigation on this.

It's important to involve the feds in state issues. Federalism is still gasping for breath and it must be suffocated.
Title: Re: Worker who sent out Hawaii missile alert is reassigned
Post by: Night Hides Not on January 16, 2018, 03:18:54 pm

Ever work at Edgewood Arsenal?

@Cripplecreek

No...lol. During my two years at Hahn AB (77-78), I was one of two officers in my battery with a TS clearance. That meant during AF alerts/tac evals, I'd be down in the Wing CP for the duration as the Army Liasion Officer (the other officer was my CO, he had more important things to do).

30 minutes into my first trip to the Wing CP, a NATO evaluator dropped an NBC input. It was laughable: Ramstein was hit with a nonpersistent nerve agent. I was in the "Eagles Nest", briefing the Wing Cdr on the location of our weapons systems. Each base has a Disaster Preparedness Officer, a Captain, whose job is to be an expert on NBC threats. He overreacted, recommending Alarm Red, i.e. full gas mask and protective gear for everyone on base.

So there I was, an Army 2nd LT, surrounded by AF colonels, incredulous at this overreaction. I figured "WTH", and spoke up: Colonel may I make a recommendation?  Dead silence, lol. The Wing Cdr was a graduate of West Point, so he had a much higher regard for Army officers than most everyone there. He said, "go ahead LT".

I recommended Alarm Yellow (no mask/protective gear) for three reasons:

1. Ramstein was 60+ miles southeast, and the winds were westerly.
2. It was a nonpersistent nerve agent, sure to disperse within a short time period.
3. It was raining like hell outside, Russians wasted a lot of agent for nothing.

Wing Cdr said "I like that, let's go Alarm Yellow", as the NATO Team Chief was nodding his head in approval. 15 minutes later, I hear his voice boom out, "as long as I'm in command, I want that Army LT up here for every future NBC input."

Later that day, he came down and asked me, "how'd you know that?" I told him I was my unit's NBC officer, an extra duty. It was one of the better "extra duties" to have: got a week's worth of training in Vilseck, i.e. a week off. Later, when I was kicked up to Battalion HQ, I took on that duty for the battalion, and got a week at the NATO school...in Oberammergau.

As I recall, that was the only NBC input during that tac eval.  My soldiers must have put on a dog and pony show when the evaluators checked them out. During the outbriefing, it was said that the Army unit (us) added significantly to the Base Survivability Rating.