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Title: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-changer'
Post by: rangerrebew on November 27, 2019, 04:10:27 pm
DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-changer'
By Matt London | Fox News
 

The former head of the Chicago DEA, who spent years fighting the Mexican drug cartels and brought down the infamous drug lord "El Chapo," said he "applauds" President Trump for pushing to designate the cartels as terrorist organizations.
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"The president is showing real leadership if he can get that done," former DEA agent Jack Riley told Fox News. "There are so many people inside and outside of Congress, the pundits, that will be against it. But this is exactly what is necessary. We have the tools. This would be a game-changer."

In a new interview, President Trump said that he will "absolutely" designate the Mexican drug cartels as terror groups. "At some point, something has to be done. Look, we're losing 100,000 people a year to what's happening and what's coming through Mexico. They have unlimited money, the people, the cartels... it's drug money and human trafficking money," Trump told Bill O'Reilly in his podcast.

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Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: rangerrebew on November 27, 2019, 04:11:48 pm
Will democrats oppose naming drug cartels as terrorists?  There is speculation they may be helping democrats with "stipends" to help keep the border open. :pondering:
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 27, 2019, 04:22:43 pm
Will democrats oppose naming drug cartels as terrorists?  There is speculation they may be helping democrats with "stipends" to help keep the border open. :pondering:
I have been speculating for decades now that there is some pecuniary or other benefit being steered toward enough of the people in our government to convince them to not bother to close the border or take other effective means to stop the flow of drugs, humans, and other contraband across. For decades, the pursuit of that objective has been insufficient or simply ineffective, through no fault of those with boots on the ground. The latter work with the rules and tech they have.

If you had an employee trying to accomplish a difficult job, you'd make sure they had the tools they need to get the job done.
Let's give the Border patrol the tools, let's eliminate the non-cooperation from the congress, from the 'sanctuary' jurisdictions, and get the job done. It won't be absolutely perfect, some will always get through, but the amount of illegal activity could be substantially reduced.

As for the Cartels, anyone who thinks they aren't operating in the US is foolish, and allowing them to flourish anywhere is a mistake.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Fishrrman on November 28, 2019, 12:34:59 am
Really, what difference would it make to label the cartels "terrorists"?
Just changing a name doesn't make them go away.

What IS needed is ACTION that "makes them go away".

That will mean nothing less than a military invasion of Mexico and going after the cartels (leaders first) as we would go after isis. With extreme prejudice.

Short of that, furgheddaboutit.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: TomSea on November 28, 2019, 01:12:58 am
Calling them terrorists means we can take unilateral action on them, like say, striking a meth lab in  Mexico. Maybe, even some kind of operation getting a kingpin.  I would be for that. I do wonder, if they could make reprisal attacks. Then, maybe then, our country would get smarter about border security enforcement.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Chosen Daughter on November 28, 2019, 06:02:52 am
Calling them terrorists means we can take unilateral action on them, like say, striking a meth lab in  Mexico. Maybe, even some kind of operation getting a kingpin.  I would be for that. I do wonder, if they could make reprisal attacks. Then, maybe then, our country would get smarter about border security enforcement.

Its sure making Mexico sweat.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: bigheadfred on November 28, 2019, 06:34:39 am
I know this. I know enough Mexicans who came here to find a better life. And I know enough who come to game our system.

But there are still enough Mexicans in Mexico who want, do, and stand for the same things you all say you do.

Unilateral drone strikes on specific targets, IMO, would be a welcome relief to ALL of us. No matter how the MSM or Polly's play it.

Paraquat. You remember Paraquat. Right. Not that.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 28, 2019, 06:43:44 am
I know this. I know enough Mexicans who came here to find a better life. And I know enough who come to game our system.

But there are still enough Mexicans in Mexico who want, do, and stand for the same things you all say you do.

Unilateral drone strikes on specific targets, IMO, would be a welcome relief to ALL of us. No matter how the MSM or Polly's play it.

Paraquat. You remember Paraquat. Right. Not that.
But that's just it. instead of following them and chasing them all over, one hellfire, and whack. As terrorists, they can be military targets, not mere criminals.

But the real possibilities come from using those drones to track the routes back to the head men and whack them instead of the mules who just might be doing what they do out of fear for themselves or their families.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: bigheadfred on November 29, 2019, 02:57:50 am
But that's just it. instead of following them and chasing them all over, one hellfire, and whack. As terrorists, they can be military targets, not mere criminals.

But the real possibilities come from using those drones to track the routes back to the head men and whack them instead of the mules who just might be doing what they do out of fear for themselves or their families.

Right.  That was what I intended with this part of my post: Unilateral drone strikes on specific targets, IMO, would be a welcome relief to ALL of us.

Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Wingnut on November 29, 2019, 03:01:57 am
They will hate us more.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: bigheadfred on November 29, 2019, 03:27:12 am
They will hate us more.

Good. The energy it takes to hate only makes them weaker.
Title: Re: DEA agent who caught El Chapo: Trump labeling Mexican cartels 'terrorists' would be 'game-change
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 29, 2019, 05:56:28 am
They will hate us more.
Tough sh*t. The worse they act, the more targets.