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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on October 20, 2017, 10:58:32 am
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Incredible drone footage shows five of the eight Mexican border wall prototypes completed as construction is underway for remaining three in a bid to fulfill Trump's great campaign pledge
Daily Mail/UK, Oct 19, 2017
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The wall prototypes are all expected to be fully erected by the end of the month and are being constructed in the California desert, near San Diego abutting the run down neighborhood of Tijuana, Mexico.
The requirements to adhere to Trump's vision call for 'a fence that is impenetrable, it's unscalable,' said Roy Villareal, acting chief patrol agent of the San Diego border sector. 'They can't dig under it. They can't cut through it.
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Maryland's ETLA North America Inc is an Israeli defense company. This wall by ETLA uses a concrete at the base with the top two-thirds featuring blue metal panels
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Caddell Construction Co, LLC, of Montgomery, Alabama created two walls, this one features metal bars for the first half, narrowly spaced and resembling the bollard-style fencing which allows CBP to see to the otherside, the top half has solid concrete panels
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Texas Sterling Construction Co. of Houston built this prototype of concrete with fencing at the top pointing towards Mexico
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4998730/Drone-footage-shows-Mexican-border-wall-prototypes.html#ixzz4w2qa4iir
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A man peeks through a hole in the existing border wall from the Mexican side at several border wall prototypes being built in San Diego
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4998730/Drone-footage-shows-Mexican-border-wall-prototypes.html#ixzz4w2rus6pT
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@dfwgator
"My god....it's full of bars!"
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The one with bars seems like it'd be great for drug smugglers.
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Is Mexico going to pay for it?
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Is Mexico going to pay for it?
You bet your a$$ they will! Many times over!
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@dfwgator
"My god....it's full of bars!"
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:mauslaff:
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Texas Sterling wins at a walk!
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@dfwgator
"My god....it's full of bars!"
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Definitely don't like the one with the bars, I don't think making a 'viewing' opportunity is necessary; drones can assess what's happening on the other side. Personally, I like the one from TX and feel the bid should be awarded strictly to a U.S. company, using U.S. labor, and U.S. materials.
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Anyone who thinks any of these are anything but a giant effing boondoggle is effing delusional.
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Anyone who thinks any of these are anything but a giant effing boondoggle is effing delusional.
It is a monument. Whether it is to the start of progress securing our border or the gullibility of the American people, remains to be seen.
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For the record, this is what ACTUAL border security looks like:
(http://sdvoice.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/border-wall.jpg)
Ask yourself why the country most in need of border security STOPPED building walls, and started building fences. The only places they put up walls now is in locations where they want to stop snipers, otherwise what you see here in the most cost effective and SIMPLY effective way of securing the border.
The shit Trump has asked for is as idiotic as all the gaudy gold-plated crap in the buildings he slaps his name on.
The man is clueless. The American people are even more clueless if they allow their tax dollars to be spent on this easily defeated garbage.
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For the record, this is what ACTUAL border security looks like:
(http://sdvoice.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/border-wall.jpg)
Ask yourself why the country most in need of border security STOPPED building walls, and started building fences. The only places they put up walls now is in locations where they want to stop snipers, otherwise what you see here in the most cost effective and SIMPLY effective way of securing the border.
The shit Trump has asked for is as idiotic as all the gaudy gold-plated crap in the buildings he slaps his name on.
The man is clueless. The American people are even more clueless if they allow their tax dollars to be spent on this easily defeated garbage.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Police_car_at_Hungary-Serbia_border_barrier.jpg/220px-Police_car_at_Hungary-Serbia_border_barrier.jpg)
The same in Hungary, which has kept the refugee infiltration rate next to nothing.
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For the record, this is what ACTUAL border security looks like:
(http://sdvoice.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/border-wall.jpg)
Ask yourself why the country most in need of border security STOPPED building walls, and started building fences. The only places they put up walls now is in locations where they want to stop snipers, otherwise what you see here in the most cost effective and SIMPLY effective way of securing the border.
The shit Trump has asked for is as idiotic as all the gaudy gold-plated crap in the buildings he slaps his name on.
The man is clueless. The American people are even more clueless if they allow their tax dollars to be spent on this easily defeated garbage.
Someone should post that picture on twitter. #real border fence
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For the record, this is what ACTUAL border security looks like:
(http://sdvoice.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/border-wall.jpg)
Ask yourself why the country most in need of border security STOPPED building walls, and started building fences. The only places they put up walls now is in locations where they want to stop snipers, otherwise what you see here in the most cost effective and SIMPLY effective way of securing the border.
The shit Trump has asked for is as idiotic as all the gaudy gold-plated crap in the buildings he slaps his name on.
The man is clueless. The American people are even more clueless if they allow their tax dollars to be spent on this easily defeated garbage.
The building he built in Panama (Trump Ocean Club) is very impressive. He was very clever in making sure that the condo owners have 24 hour access to all the hotel amenities, but the hotel and condo entrances are separate. The quality of the individual units I've seen is pretty good.
The wall will never be as effective as enforcement of existing laws, but as anyone can see with the sanctuary cities and sanctuary states enforcement of existing laws is very difficult. A wall at least will slow the inflow under a Rat administration and even a Pub administration.
The man can be "over the top", boorish, a bully, prone to lie about his opposition but he is not clueless.
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For the record, this is what ACTUAL border security looks like:
(http://sdvoice.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/border-wall.jpg)
Ask yourself why the country most in need of border security STOPPED building walls, and started building fences. The only places they put up walls now is in locations where they want to stop snipers, otherwise what you see here in the most cost effective and SIMPLY effective way of securing the border.
The shit Trump has asked for is as idiotic as all the gaudy gold-plated crap in the buildings he slaps his name on.
The man is clueless. The American people are even more clueless if they allow their tax dollars to be spent on this easily defeated garbage.
Fine, but that shot wasn't taken by "Incredible drone footage!!!"
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Pictures of border fence from Nat Geo in several different locations. We need a wall that is complete.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/proof-border-wall-united-states-mexico/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qsUaNAbt6A
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Pictures of border fence from Nat Geo in several different locations. We need a wall that is complete.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/proof-border-wall-united-states-mexico/
I like the Israeli Model fence
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I like the Israeli Model fence
There are three factors here:
Effectiveness, which includes getting it built (because no fence at all doesn't stop much of anything).
Cost (Even though some expensive options will save more money over time than their original outlay).
Speed of emplacement, because the current political environment will inevitably change.
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Fine, but that shot wasn't taken by "Incredible drone footage!!!"
Ah. Crap. Score one for the hyperventilating Trumpettes.
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The man can be "over the top", boorish, a bully, prone to lie about his opposition but he is not clueless.
That is a matter of considerable debate.
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The same in Hungary, which has kept the refugee infiltration rate next to nothing.
More razorwire on that fence - something we'll never see on ANY of our proposals because we wouldn't want the illegals getting a nasty cut when they are easily bypassing the sh!t we DO decide to spend billions on.
I can't believe the rampant stupidity surrounding this whole "wall" movement.
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There are three factors here:
Effectiveness, which includes getting it built (because no fence at all doesn't stop much of anything).
Cost (Even though some expensive options will save more money over time than their original outlay).
Speed of emplacement, because the current political environment will inevitably change.
This is why a proper border fence would be achievable WELL before they could halt construction with a new administration.
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Ah. Crap. Score one for the hyperventilating Trumpettes.
You realize the title of the article, including the word "Incredible" was written by reporters with the Daily Mail/UK and their political slant is anything other than pro-Trump, don't you?
If not, you need to catch up. And quickly.
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You realize the title of the article, including the word "Incredible" was written by reporters with the Daily Mail/UK and their political slant is anything other than pro-Trump, don't you?
If not, you need to catch up. And quickly.
Oh, shit. You didn't put me on ignore.
Damn. I had high hopes.
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More razorwire on that fence - something we'll never see on ANY of our proposals because we wouldn't want the illegals getting a nasty cut when they are easily bypassing the sh!t we DO decide to spend billions on.
I can't believe the rampant stupidity surrounding this whole "wall" movement.
After the whole "virtual wall" virtually stopped a million or more people from crossing an invisible line in the sand, yeah, I can believe just about any boundless idiocy.
Put up a credible physical barrier that can be patrolled, but will be effective. Hungary did, and the border crossers in that area went from ~4500/day to an average of 15.
That, to me, ends the argument about effectiveness, even though we have a different situation. The basic problem is the same.
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Is Mexico going to pay for it?
Not if the democrats and gope...opps I repete meself. scum like McStain can stop it.
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They could at least incorporate solar panels on the side and give Mexico a bunch of free energy.
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They could at least incorporate solar panels on the side and give Mexico a bunch of free energy.
Use it to electrify the tup wires...
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Use it to electrify the tup wires...
Isn't that what I said?
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Texas Sterling wins at a walk!
I agree. Looks pretty hard to get over. The one with bars no good.
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Isn't that what I said?
Naw, I thought you were going to set them up with electricity to run the power tools to cut through :tongue2:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKzAry_uzTw&app=desktop
Prototypes that will end up costing far more than an actually effective fence finished under budget.
Lol! You Trumpettes are priceless!