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Title: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: mystery-ak on December 18, 2013, 11:51:49 pm
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/18/Nine-Senate-Republicans-join-all-Democrats-to-pass-budget-deal (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/18/Nine-Senate-Republicans-join-all-Democrats-to-pass-budget-deal)

 by Matthew Boyle 18 Dec 2013, 3:15 PM PDT

Nine Senate Republicans crossed over to vote with all Senate Democrats to support the budget deal that House Budget Committee chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) cut with Senate Budget Committee chairwoman Sen. Patty Murray (D-WA).

The deal passed Wednesday by a final vote of 64-36. The nine Senate Republicans who crossed over are as follows: Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Susan Collins (R-ME), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Ron Johnson (R-WI), John Hoeven (R-ND), and Rob Portman (R-OH).

The House passed the bill last Thursday by a margin of 332-94. A total of 169 Republicans supported the plan, many because of the talking points that Ryan gave them, while 62 House Republicans voted against the bill.

Ryan used a series of misleading styles of accounting and talking points to promote the bill, especially when it came to veterans' pensions. He claimed the bill overall reduced the deficit by $23 billion. In reality, the bill increases the deficit by at least $15.5 billion.

Most of these faults in the accounting and the inaccuracies in Ryan’s talking points did not become apparent until after the House voted for the plan. Armed with that information, 80% of Senate Republicans voted against Ryan's deal—a major reversal from the 73% of House Republicans who voted for it without that vetting.
Title: Re: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: Rapunzel on December 19, 2013, 12:07:17 am
Ryan used a series of misleading styles of accounting and talking points to promote the bill, especially when it came to veterans' pensions. He claimed the bill overall reduced the deficit by $23 billion. In reality, the bill increases the deficit by at least $15.5 billion.
Title: Re: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: Atomic Cow on December 19, 2013, 12:22:23 am
Pretty much the usual suspects.
Title: Re: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: sinkspur on December 19, 2013, 12:28:41 am
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Ryan used a series of misleading styles of accounting and talking points to promote the bill, especially when it came to veterans' pensions. He claimed the bill overall reduced the deficit by $23 billion. In reality, the bill increases the deficit by at least $15.5 billion.

Most of these faults in the accounting and the inaccuracies in Ryan’s talking points did not become apparent until after the House voted for the plan. Armed with that information, 80% of Senate Republicans voted against Ryan's deal—a major reversal from the 73% of House Republicans who voted for it without that vetting.

Where is the link to the "misleading style of accounting and talking points"?

Most (if not all) of the Republicans in the Senate voted against the budget bill because of the cut in Veterans' Pensions, not because of "misleading styles of accounting and talking points."
Title: Re: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: xfreeper on December 19, 2013, 01:20:25 am
Pretty much the usual suspects.

Indeed. For the most part, predictable
Title: Re: Nine Senate Republicans Join Democrats to Pass Budget Deal
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on December 19, 2013, 09:00:30 am
Where is the link to the "misleading style of accounting and talking points"?

Most (if not all) of the Republicans in the Senate voted against the budget bill because of the cut in Veterans' Pensions, not because of "misleading styles of accounting and talking points."

I heard Ryan's budget also pays for underage abortions, free needle exchanges, clothing vouchers for transexuals, and amnesties 49 million illegals.

Some of the GOP Senators could look past the cut in vet pensions but they have spines of linguini and were scared of the right wing.  But 9 proud patriots listened to their constituents and said America will not default on my watch.

Not on the watch of my used to be Tea Party Senator Ron Johnson.  The RINOs only needed 5 votes so this is for show folks.

Johnson knows he can not afford to be associated with the Tea Party anymore and expect to be re-elected in purple Wisconsin.  He thinks with his brain and that is why he is fully awesome.