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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: 240B on March 09, 2018, 03:04:10 pm
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Constitution
By Onan Coca
March 9, 2018
Thursday was a very busy day for the rumor mill that has been consistently swirling about the aging and ailing senior Senator from Arizona, John McCain (R-AZ).
Most of the afternoon was filled with speculation that the Senator’s condition, he’s been dealing with an aggressive form of brain cancer for several months, had deteriorated to the point that the Senator would soon be forced to step down.
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https://constitution.com/just-rumors-retirement-swirl-around-anti-trump-leader/
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Constitution
By Onan Coca
March 9, 2018
Thursday was a very busy day for the rumor mill that has been consistently swirling about the aging and ailing senior Senator from Arizona, John McCain (R-AZ).
Most of the afternoon was filled with speculation that the Senator’s condition, he’s been dealing with an aggressive form of brain cancer for several months, had deteriorated to the point that the Senator would soon be forced to step down.
(more)
https://constitution.com/just-rumors-retirement-swirl-around-anti-trump-leader/
He should have stepped down months ago when he was told that he was terminal and that his type of brain cancer is the most aggressive form of cancer that there is. I'm hoping he makes his announcement soon.
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As predicted by almost everyone, he is much too sick to hold any job, much less be a Senator. But, who knows? With his vindictive vengeful nature, he may cling to his seat like a drowning man clings to log, right up to the bitter end.
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He'll only 'retire' when they pry the cold power plug from the support systems maintaining his decomposing body.
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Maybe he'll go out with a bang.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_n4RPg-Pytc/VdEfTocAyLI/AAAAAAAAJUY/ARUM1ETLBZA/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/mccain-strangelove.jpg)
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As predicted by almost everyone, he is much too sick to hold any job, much less be a Senator. But, who knows? With his vindictive vengeful nature, he may cling to his seat like a drowning man clings to log, right up to the bitter end.
When he left the Senate before Christmas, I had a hunch then that he would not be returning. His daughter and his wife have reported hints of his recovery and him doing amazingly well under the circumstances and the latest report from them was that they didn't want him exposed to the flu virus during this extremely harsh flu season. I can understand that they don't want to give up hope and he himself I'm sure is clinging to hope, but it's time to do what is right for once for the sake of the American people. It's time for Johnny to step down. I'm sorry, but the GOP will be a better party without him.
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McCain leaving will hurt the Democrats much more than it will affect the Republican Party. McCain called himself a Republican but he voted, spoke, and acted like a Democrat. His leaving will either have no effect on the Republican Party or it will be positive for the Republicans.
The Democrats are the people sweating McCain leaving, not the Republicans, and especially not Trump.
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McCain leaving will hurt the Democrats much more than it will affect the Republican Party. McCain called himself a Republican but he voted, spoke, and acted like a Democrat. His leaving will either have no effect on the Republican Party or it will be positive for the Republicans.
The Democrats are the people sweating McCain leaving, not the Republicans, and especially not Trump.
Agreed in the sense that he is a RINO and the immediate impact will be felt by the DEMS. As for the impact on the GOP, it depends on who is elected to succeed him.
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He should have stepped down months ago when he was told that he was terminal and that his type of brain cancer is the most aggressive form of cancer that there is. I'm hoping he makes his announcement soon.
What you said!
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Agreed in the sense that he is a RINO and the immediate impact will be felt by the DEMS. As for the impact on the GOP, it depends on who is elected to succeed him.
What difference would it make? McCain or a Democrat, who cares. At least with a real declared Democrat in office we would clearly know what we are dealing with. McCain is worse, as a duplicitous a$$hole.
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I hope by swirling they mean the drain, as in McCain.
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Agreed in the sense that he is a RINO and the immediate impact will be felt by the DEMS. As for the impact on the GOP, it depends on who is elected to succeed him.
It will be somebody Donald Trump likes. Governor Doug Ducey was a huge early supporter of Trump's in the AZ Primary. He has full say on McCain's replacement, which goes a long way toward explaining why McCain is clinging to the seat like it's the last piece of timber from a sinking ship.
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What difference would it make? McCain or a Democrat, who cares. At least with a real declared Democrat in office we would clearly know what we are dealing with. McCain is worse, as a duplicitous a$$hole.
@240B
The immediate benefit is the vast circle of power that he has accumulated over the decades he has been in office will evaporate. I'm sure lobbyists have been jumping like rats off a burning ship.
No person should be able to stay in office as long as he has. Its not good for the country.
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The Democrats are the people sweating McCain leaving, not the Republicans, and especially not Trump.
Along with the producers of Sunday morning talk shows!
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I heard that when McCain dies, he will lay in state..........in Ho Chi Minh City.
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Along with the producers of Sunday morning talk shows!
They are not worried. They are buying McCains corpse to sit in on these shows Weekend at Bernie's style.
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@240B
The immediate benefit is the vast circle of power that he has accumulated over the decades he has been in office will evaporate. I'm sure lobbyists have been jumping like rats off a burning ship.
No person should be able to stay in office as long as he has. Its not good for the country.
It is not 'will evaporate', it is more like 'has evaporated'. Anyone who does not believe that McCain is terminal at this point is crazy. McCain is, even now as we speak, likey in a coma or so heavily sedated that he doesn't even know his own name. McCain is hanging on to his seat as a corpse, or at least very close to it. How Congress tolerates this is anyone's guess.
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They are not worried. They are buying McCains corpse to sit in on these shows Weekend at Bernie's style.
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LOL! I wouldn't doubt it for a second! And the worst part is than most viewers would know the difference!
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It is not 'will evaporate', it is more like 'has evaporated'. Anyone who does not believe that McCain is terminal at this point is crazy. McCain is, even now as we speak, likey in a coma or so heavily sedated that he doesn't even know his own name. McCain is hanging on to his seat as a corpse, or at least very close to it. How Congress tolerates this is anyone's guess.
@240B
How does Congress tolerate it?
Leahy 1975
Hatch 1977 - finally retiring this term
Cochran 1978
Grassley 1981
McConnell 1985
Shelby 1987
McCain 1987
Feinstein 1992
Over half of the Senate has been in office for at least 15 years. They could give a crap about anyone else in the country. We need more turnover in Congress.
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Facts:
GOP AZ Senators McCain and Flake have lifetime ACU ratings of 82 and 93 respectively.
That contracts with Dem CA Senators Boxer and Feinstein that have lifetime ACU ratings of 3 and 9 respectively.
http://acuratings.conservative.org/acu-federal-legislative-ratings/?year1=2016&chamber=13&state1=18&sortable=1 (http://acuratings.conservative.org/acu-federal-legislative-ratings/?year1=2016&chamber=13&state1=18&sortable=1)
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I heard that when McCain dies, he will lay in state..........in Ho Chi Minh City.
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Cindy McCain has come forward to dismiss the rumor and says that her husband is doing fine. If he's doing fine, then he needs to get his behind back to the Senate and do his dang job!! Secondly, if his wife has to speak for him, what does that say about his health? I'm declaring b.s. on this. He's opting NOT to do what's right for the country and just as despicable as ever!
Cindy McCain refutes online rumor that John McCain is leaving Senate
http://ktar.com/story/1982210/cindy-mccain-refutes-online-rumor-john-mccain-leaving-senate/? (http://ktar.com/story/1982210/cindy-mccain-refutes-online-rumor-john-mccain-leaving-senate/?)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cindy-mccain-john-mccain-has-no-intention-of-resigning/article/2651091 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cindy-mccain-john-mccain-has-no-intention-of-resigning/article/2651091)
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He should have stepped down months ago when he was told that he was terminal and that his type of brain cancer is the most aggressive form of cancer that there is. I'm hoping he makes his announcement soon.
Exactly. I mean he has a daughter and a wife somewhere, but I guess he defines himself by being a Senator.
Face it, McCain, you haven't been a Senator for a long time.
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if his wife has to speak for him, what does that say about his health?
Indeed.
Cindy McCain: John McCain 'has no intention of resigning'
by Al Weaver | Mar 8, 2018, 4:20 PM
Cindy McCain, the wife of Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., rejected speculation on Thursday that her husband might resign from the Senate after he's been absent from Washington and continues treatment for brain cancer in Arizona.
In a tweet, McCain said her husband is "doing fine" despite missing the past two months on Capitol Hill after being diagnosed last summer with glioblastoma.
"Contrary to popular belief @SenJohnMcCain is doing fine and has no intention of resigning!" McCain said in a tweet Thursday afternoon, labeling those who are pushing such reports as "crackpots." ...
Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cindy-mccain-john-mccain-has-no-intention-of-resigning/article/2651091)
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JUST IN: Rumors of Retirement Swirl Around Anti-Trump Leader
By Onan Coca March 9, 2018
Thursday was a very busy day for the rumor mill that has been consistently swirling about the aging and ailing senior Senator from Arizona, John McCain (R-AZ).
Most of the afternoon was filled with speculation that the Senator’s condition, he’s been dealing with an aggressive form of brain cancer for several months, had deteriorated to the point that the Senator would soon be forced to step down.
https://constitution.com/just-rumors-retirement-swirl-around-anti-trump-leader/
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This surprises me. I would have thought McLame's hatred was so strong, he would want his skeleton in congress (to vote with democrats) rather than give Trump the peace of mind to see him gone.
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Exactly. I mean he has a daughter and a wife somewhere, but I guess he defines himself by being a Senator.
Face it, McCain, you haven't been a Senator for a long time.
He likes the power and the money that the Senate provides him and has enabled him to lie and to manipulate people. He's not about to resign knowing that's what people want him to do and knowing it's the right thing to do.
I feel for his wife and daughter, it is an extremely difficult time for them. Watching someone fading away from cancer is like being on a roller coaster ride; the cancer victim has periods of where they start makng improvements followed by periods where they take a turn for the worse, then they show some hopeful signs of improvement and the cycle continues until a point is reached where there are no more weeks or days of improvement and finally the cancer wins the battle. It's a sad struggle.
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Sounds like he is getting his affairs in order.
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Indeed.
Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cindy-mccain-john-mccain-has-no-intention-of-resigning/article/2651091)
It's a pretty sad state of affairs we have to learn of the status of a US Senator's physical fitness to hold the office by way of tweets from his wife. It's also sad we have news stories that say Mark Kelly is to be the replacement. We'd be taking pitchforks and torches down to the State Capital if Ducey ever named that gun-grabbing astro-brain to that seat.
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He likes the power and the money that the Senate provides him and has enabled him to lie and to manipulate people. He's not about to resign knowing that's what people want him to do and knowing it's the right thing to do.
I feel for his wife and daughter, it is an extremely difficult time for them. Watching someone fading away from cancer is like being on a roller coaster ride; the cancer victim has periods of where they start makng improvements followed by periods where they take a turn for the worse, then they show some hopeful signs of improvement and the cycle continues until a point is reached where there are no more weeks or days of improvement and finally the cancer wins the battle. It's a sad struggle.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn his wife doesn't give a squirt about how he feels, and is the one who's propping him up to keep the sinecure coming. I think his daughter has finally gotten a handle on things and really is upset about his condition. She's certainly not one of us, but I think she's probably a decent person. Glad I am not the guy she's with, though. Had a GF like that once and it was not a great time.
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I read somewhere that McCain will stay on life support until after the 2018 elections to enable his appointed replacement to finish out McCain’s term in office as opposed to having to survive a special election. :shrug:
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I read somewhere that McCain will stay on life support until after the 2018 elections to enable his appointed replacement to finish out McCain’s term in office as opposed to having to survive a special election. :shrug:
It wouldn't surprise me, and we'd have 8-9 months of constant lying by his friendly press, and having Jeff Flake being our only representative in the Senate. AZ is so screwed.
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Someone here posted a selfie that the wife posted on Twitter a few days ago. I commented that it looked like a Weekend At Bernie's for sure. Craziness.
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Cindy McCain
â€Verified account @cindymccain
23h23 hours ago
Contrary to popular belief @SenJohnMcCain is doing fine and has no intention of resigning! #crackpots
Crackpots, really? His constituents pondering the health of their Senator are crackpots?
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Crackpots, really? His constituents pondering the health of their Senator are crackpots?
That's the way I read that , @mountaineer. I'm a crackpot. Since it's John and/or Cindy McCain, I had already factored in the snark and BS insults so I didn't really notice that. Those two hate the snot out of AZ's conservatives already. I'd be shocked if either of them ever said something nice about us.
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Crackpots, really? His constituents pondering the health of their Senator are crackpots?
Which makes me laugh, because the first question out of my mouth is 'why then Cindy is it you and not the Senator that's doing the speaking?'
We all know what he has, and how bad it is. He's been quiet for weeks, and we're crackpots for wondering what is up?
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Which makes me laugh, because the first question out of my mouth is 'why then Cindy is it you and not the Senator that's doing the speaking?'
We all know what he has, and how bad it is. He's been quiet for weeks, and we're crackpots for wondering what is up?
Apparently tweets are issuing from his Twitter account, but they're all boilerplate that tells us nothing about who is writing them. But yeah, I'd be burned up at the "crackpot" thing if I didn't already detest him for treating conservatives like dog crap for all these many years.
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Apparently tweets are issuing from his Twitter account, but they're all boilerplate that tells us nothing about who is writing them. But yeah, I'd be burned up at the "crackpot" thing if I didn't already detest him for treating conservatives like dog crap for all these many years.
:pondering: John "Gill" McCain
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kRgcfof1Qoc/T7vkE1Rrw7I/AAAAAAAAYdA/aSpg8wrByAk/s1600/patternsofforcehd1066.jpg)
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:pondering: John "Gill" McCain
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kRgcfof1Qoc/T7vkE1Rrw7I/AAAAAAAAYdA/aSpg8wrByAk/s1600/patternsofforcehd1066.jpg)
I'm reminded of that episode every time I think of my Sr. Senator.
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Someone here posted a selfie that the wife posted on Twitter a few days ago. I commented that it looked like a Weekend At Bernie's for sure. Craziness.
I saw one from last week she posted to Instagram. All you can see is John's nostril hair. It doesn't really speak to his overall health.
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I saw one from last week she posted to Instagram. All you can see is John's nostril hair. It doesn't really speak to his overall health.
**nononono*
Pic here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf30hIhH7X-/?utm_source=ig_embed (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf30hIhH7X-/?utm_source=ig_embed)
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I saw one from last week she posted to Instagram. All you can see is John's nostril hair. It doesn't really speak to his overall health.
Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. He could have been dead in that pic for all we know.
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Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. He could have been dead in that pic for all we know.
And we're the crackpots.
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If I had to guess, I'd say he's holding off on resigning until the end of July...if he can hang on that long. Doing so allows Ducey to appoint someone until the 2020 election rather than rushing a quick election for 2018. Ducey is a pro-Trump guy...so this would be a very good thing.
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And we're the crackpots.
Been trying to tell y'all that for a while now. :tongue2:
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Been trying to tell y'all that for a while now. :tongue2:
I've known you think I'm a crackpot for some time now, and I'm OK with that.
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Yep, that's the one I'm talking about. He could have been dead in that pic for all we know.
Good Lord.
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And we're the crackpots.
Exactly. Why Would Cindy McCain think this photo would help her get people to believe that he isn’t at least on a ventilator?
After seeing that photo, I have even more doubt that he is breathing on his own and “doing betterâ€.
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**nononono*
Pic here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf30hIhH7X-/?utm_source=ig_embed (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bf30hIhH7X-/?utm_source=ig_embed)
Anyone do a close up on that pic? Looks to me like at least his left eye is closed; possibly sleeping? Look at the reflection of him in her sunglasses. I don't think he's in a wheel chair, but he sure looks weirdly posed and/or legs look extremely thin.
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Merged.
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Merged.
Nice new avatar/badge!
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Nice new avatar/badge!
Thanks! We all got them....
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50 bucks says the McCain Kid eats his boogers.
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They are not worried. They are buying McCains corpse to sit in on these shows Weekend at Bernie's style.
Why do you think his daughter was hired by The View? Accomplishes the same mission.
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He likes the power and the money that the Senate provides him and has enabled him to lie and to manipulate people. He's not about to resign knowing that's what people want him to do and knowing it's the right thing to do.
I feel for his wife and daughter, it is an extremely difficult time for them. Watching someone fading away from cancer is like being on a roller coaster ride; the cancer victim has periods of where they start makng improvements followed by periods where they take a turn for the worse, then they show some hopeful signs of improvement and the cycle continues until a point is reached where there are no more weeks or days of improvement and finally the cancer wins the battle. It's a sad struggle.
You nailed it, bele. My MIL passed away from cancer about ten years ago. My wife got back from visiting her on a Sunday night, she was so happy that her mom was responding to the latest treatment.
Less than 12 hours later, we were on the road to El Paso, after being notified of a relapse. She passed away at about 10 PM Monday night.
It's been my experience that Generals Winter, Mud, Cancer, and Time never lose.
I've never understood McCain, and the rest of the Congressmen For Life that were obviously consumed by the perqs and power of their positions, to the detriment of average Americans.
Maybe it's just me, I retired as soon as I could (and before my wife wanted me too... :rolling:), a few months ago. My needs are simple, and we're comfortable. I got a part time job just to get out of the house, it basically pays me to work out for a few hours several days a week. I've lost 15 pounds in two months, and my blood pressure is now "ideal", 114/72.
My grandson spends one night a week with us, and I get to walk him to school the following morning...at his request. He's 7 1/2, and the time is drawing near for when he'd rather go it alone.
I don't pay any attention to McCain anymore, but offer prayers to his family.
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Liberty's description of the slow and uneven progression of cancer is spot on...I lost my father to lung cancer a few years back so I've seen it up close and personal. There were days near the end where suddenly he seemed almost his normal...great sense of humor and irony...self. And then he'd lapse into almost a stupor of pain and mental confusion (his pain meds were very powerful).
Anyway, my point is that this process is brutal on a family and I think we should be very careful judging how an individual and their family deal with this...I could see how some might throw themselves into their work, especially if they feel a "calling" as many in politics likely do. Clearly, McCain isn't acting out of greed or a desire to attain power...the knowledge of impending death makes such things trivial. Likely, he truly believes the causes for which he advocates...and likely sees the President as bad for the nation, and so opposes him even as death approaches.
I strongly disagree with McCain and his positions these past few years...particularly I oppose his view of the President. But the man's life commands respect and his politics do not abrogate that right to be viewed and treated with some reverence for his service. He took a lot of beatings and stood up for his fellow prisoners in a place that was a living hell. So I will disagree with him, but it makes me a bit sad to see people disrespecting him...and judging his family...at a very difficult time at the end of his life. I apologize if that sounds like I'm lecturing.
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Anyone do a close up on that pic? Looks to me like at least his left eye is closed; possibly sleeping? Look at the reflection of him in her sunglasses. I don't think he's in a wheel chair, but he sure looks weirdly posed and/or legs look extremely thin.
You’re right. He looks almost prostrate and propped on a patio chair in the reflection of her sunglasses. The wheelchair is beside them.