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Gateway Pundit by Jim Hoft February 16, 2020
“If You Show Up with Cancer and You’re 95 – We Should Say We Can’t Do Anything†– Bloomberg Explains How Healthcare will Bankrupt Us Unless We Deny Care to Elderly
Jim Hoft by Jim Hoft February 16, 2020 876 Comments
A new video posted on Sunday shows former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg explaining how healthcare will “bankrupt us,†unless we deny care to the elderly.
Mike Bloomberg: All of these costs keep going up. Nobody wants to pay anymore money. And at the rate we’re going healthcare is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem we’ve got to sit here and say which things we’re going to do and which things we’re not. Nobody wants to do that. If you show up with prostrate cancer and you’re 95 years old, we should say go and enjoy, you’ve had a long life, there’s no cure and we can’t do anything. If you’re a young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that, yet.â€
Spoken like a true heartless socialist.
How horrible.
More: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/if-you-show-up-with-cancer-and-youre-95-we-should-say-we-cant-do-anything-bloomberg-explains-how-healthcare-will-bankrupt-us-unless-we-deny-care-to-elderly/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/if-you-show-up-with-cancer-and-youre-95-we-should-say-we-cant-do-anything-bloomberg-explains-how-healthcare-will-bankrupt-us-unless-we-deny-care-to-elderly/)
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Campaign Ad for his health care should be....
Tumor on your spleen? Think Soylent Green!!!!!!!
What this turd doesn't understand is that what he is proposing is almost already being silently practiced in geriatric medicine anyway.
Next time, watch the level of care, interest, and detail doctors give the 90+ crowd, say versus yourself. What I saw with my 2 inlaws the past 5 years was proof. I am sure there are some compassionate MD s in this speciality of practice, but from my experience it must be rare.
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His expertise on healthcare and agriculture is just unparalleled, isn't it?
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What this turd doesn't understand is that what he is proposing is almost already being silently practiced in geriatric medicine anyway.
Switched my Medicare from Care First BC/BS (too expensive) to Kaiser Permenente.
In January, the last initial get acquainted appointment for the day at 4:30pm...they took my blood pressure, took blood and talked.
Never once did they listen to my heartbeat, which is irregular. Told them I'm constantly lightheaded...may as well talked to the wall.
She then prescribes Nytrin, whose primary side effect is... dizziness.
Never even suggested I see a Kaiser Cardiologist.
Suffice to say... I'm not very happy.
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Weird. Bloomberg has given a lot of money for cancer research. $50 million to be exact.
https://www.bloomberg.org/program/founders-projects/johns-hopkins-university/#overview (https://www.bloomberg.org/program/founders-projects/johns-hopkins-university/#overview)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/29/bloomberg-others-give-hopkins-125-million-for-cancer-research-that-helped-jimmy-carter/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/29/bloomberg-others-give-hopkins-125-million-for-cancer-research-that-helped-jimmy-carter/)
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Switched my Medicare from Care First BC/BS (too expensive) to Kaiser Permenente.
In January, the last initial get acquainted appointment for the day at 4:30pm...they took my blood pressure, took blood and talked.
Never once did they listen to my heartbeat, which is irregular. Told them I'm constantly lightheaded...may as well talked to the wall.
She then prescribes Nytrin, whose primary side effect is... dizziness.
Never even suggested I see a Kaiser Cardiologist.
Suffice to say... I'm not very happy.
Pretty common if you ask me. My mother in law about 4 years ago (since passed), went to the hospital after severe C-Diff complications, (which she happened to catch at a hospital btw). Attending physican told my wife that she should take her mother to Hospice next time, even though she did not have a terminal condition. Pretty clear they didn't think she was worth the time to bother with.
One other point....
To the folks like me, who are approaching Medicare Age. Be sure to check (1) that your PCP takes Medicare patients, or won't drop you after 65. (2) If they do, make sure you go routinely, so you don't get dropped. Getting a new PCP after 65 apparently is a dicey thing thing to do.
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What Bloomberg is describing is an expendable class of citizens. 95 will very quickly become 85 and cancer will become assisted living.
When the numbers in this expendable age class dwindles there will be a second ... and a third.
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What Bloomberg is describing is an expendable class of citizens. 95 will very quickly become 85 and cancer will become assisted living.
When the numbers in this expendable age class dwindles there will be a second ... and a third.
Didn’t one of the architects of Obamacare say after 72 you should be denied care?
In a way, Bloomberg is right. We had a 96-year-old woman in the hospital who kept going back to the ICU three separate times for CHF exacerbation. She was a confused nursing home resident. I agree that spending that much resources on someone that age in that state of mind is ridiculous
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In a way, Bloomberg is right. We had a 96-year-old woman in the hospital who kept going back to the ICU three separate times for CHF exacerbation. She was a confused nursing home resident. I agree that spending that much resources on someone that age in that state of mind is ridiculous
Here's the slippery slope @LMAO : Where does the government draw the line? Would children born with cystic fibrosis be eligible for expensive care when we know their lifespan, too, is limited?
How about limiting treatment plans for cancer, at any age, to one and done?
Should current and former smokers receive treatment for lung cancer, at any age?
Should the treatment of chronic disease be based on lifestyle? Ability to contribute to the tax pool?
At what point would health insurance be only for the healthy and essentials?
Once one class of citizens is thrown away, another will take its place.
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Start at 95 and eventually end at age 30, Logan's Run. Amazing how fiction becomes reality. Someone in this thread mentioned Soylent Green. When I first saw that movie, when it came out, I thought it far from reality. Today, I can actually see it happening.
Any and all efforts to take the USA away from capitalist and democratic roots will lead to such an outcome in my humble opinion. It used to be that America held life to be precious, but no more. With Roe vs Wade, we legalized genocide in this once great nation. Now, we talk about not providing medical services for the elderly. Next, you can count on not providing medical services for others, not just Cystic Fibrosis, but many ailments.
Every friend I have on Medicare complain that the services they receive are horrible. So, why would anyone want Medicare for all? Sanders is a kook, and the country would be well served if the Dems did not select this fool to be their nominee.
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If health care is going to bankrupt us in this way, why not just instruct the TSA to turn up the radiation in the airport scanners for anyone over age 65. It will increase the rates of cancer and a whole bunch of people will die younger. Hey, Mikey. This idea is yours for free. You can go ahead and campaign on it.
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Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. -Exodus 20:12 KJV
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He should be asked about RBG. Is she too old for cancer treatment?
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Remember when Sarah Palin was mocked for warning about 'death panels'?
"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."
- Sarah Palin
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Start at 95 and eventually end at age 30, Logan's Run. Amazing how fiction becomes reality. Someone in this thread mentioned Soylent Green. When I first saw that movie, when it came out, I thought it far from reality. Today, I can actually see it happening.
Any and all efforts to take the USA away from capitalist and democratic roots will lead to such an outcome in my humble opinion. It used to be that America held life to be precious, but no more. With Roe vs Wade, we legalized genocide in this once great nation. Now, we talk about not providing medical services for the elderly. Next, you can count on not providing medical services for others, not just Cystic Fibrosis, but many ailments.
Every friend I have on Medicare complain that the services they receive are horrible. So, why would anyone want Medicare for all? Sanders is a kook, and the country would be well served if the Dems did not select this fool to be their nominee.
As history shows, with or without enmity, whenever a group is somehow classified as less than fully human (a fetus, someone mentally or physically disabled, a 'savage', an (pick an age group)) they are ripe for elimination.
At least it has been thus since the Eugenicist philosophies of those like Margaret Sanger took root.
For those of us who went to college in the 70s, there was the Lifeboat/Kidney Machine "problem" which was just an exercise in deciding which lives were more precious than the others, a subtle prep for this sort of nonsense.
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Switched my Medicare from Care First BC/BS (too expensive) to Kaiser Permenente.
In January, the last initial get acquainted appointment for the day at 4:30pm...they took my blood pressure, took blood and talked.
Never once did they listen to my heartbeat, which is irregular. Told them I'm constantly lightheaded...may as well talked to the wall.
She then prescribes Nytrin, whose primary side effect is... dizziness.
Never even suggested I see a Kaiser Cardiologist.
Suffice to say... I'm not very happy.
I realize not everyone can do this, but have you considered a concierge doctor?
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What Bloomberg is describing is an expendable class of citizens. 95 will very quickly become 85 and cancer will become assisted living.
When the numbers in this expendable age class dwindles there will be a second ... and a third.
A good example of what you're saying is The UK. Cancer survival rates are 35-40% lower there than in the USA.
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The USA has been on a track comparable to the former USSR since 1972 and the passing of the genocide legislation Roe vs Wade. Those that believe in abortion rights use the notion that it is the woman's body and she has the right to decide. Well, when it entails murdering the most vulnerable in our society, she does not have that right. And she did make a decision when she decided to have unprotected sex.
I am sorry, but if a woman/girl does not want to be pregnant, there are many options in the USA to avoid pregnancy in addition to abstinence.
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Perhaps, in the grand scheme of things, 95 with cancer is a bit much to expect recover from.
But the point is, this the right of the patient, and possibly, this patient's family to receive that care if they want to.
It is not now, nor should it ever be, a decision made by any government official, anywhere, at anytime.
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“If You Show Up with Cancer and You’re 95 – We Should Say We Can’t Do Anythingâ€
What about Soylent Green?
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What about Soylent Green?
It's coming, betcha money. In fact, it is already here after a fashion... You would be surprised at where aborted fetal tissues are used.
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I know I'm blind, but I don't see the actual video. Anybody?
However, two comments: One is that if this is for real, it's rather ironic since Democrats have always accused Republicans of wanting to deny health care to seniors, disabled, etc. -- the old "Republicans pushing Grandma in her wheelchair off a cliff" refrain.
Second, often the best health care is not given to the elderly anyway since it might be kill them faster than the disease they have. An example: my aunt is 88 years old, has a condition that could best be fixed through surgery. But at her age and her heart and other health problems, surgery is really not an option for her.
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He should be asked about RBG. Is she too old for cancer treatment?
Well.... she would be "too old" for treatment....
if she wasn't a Magic D Democrat.
We know how this goes, don't we.
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Here's the slippery slope @LMAO : Where does the government draw the line? Would children born with cystic fibrosis be eligible for expensive care when we know their lifespan, too, is limited?
How about limiting treatment plans for cancer, at any age, to one and done?
Should current and former smokers receive treatment for lung cancer, at any age?
Should the treatment of chronic disease be based on lifestyle? Ability to contribute to the tax pool?
At what point would health insurance be only for the healthy and essentials?
Once one class of citizens is thrown away, another will take its place.
And I do agree with you. I guess I was just looking at one situation were Bloomberg might have a point
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We wouldn't have this dilemma if Uncle Nanny kept his fat butt out of health care and charity.
Jussayin.
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Weird. Bloomberg has given a lot of money for cancer research. $50 million to be exact.
https://www.bloomberg.org/program/founders-projects/johns-hopkins-university/#overview (https://www.bloomberg.org/program/founders-projects/johns-hopkins-university/#overview)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/29/bloomberg-others-give-hopkins-125-million-for-cancer-research-that-helped-jimmy-carter/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/03/29/bloomberg-others-give-hopkins-125-million-for-cancer-research-that-helped-jimmy-carter/)
Well to us little people $50 million seems like a lot, but to someone with a net of $50 - 70 billion? it's pocket change and probably necessary for the deductions. And just because he may want to keep young and future tax revenue producers on line he has just proven that those that can't contribute should not have valuable resources wasted on them.
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Are we saying that doctors shouldn't treat it even if the patient has the means to pay for it? Or is he saying just that the government shouldn't pay for it?
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Well to us little people $50 million seems like a lot, but to someone with a net of $50 - 70 billion? it's pocket change and probably necessary for the deductions. And just because he may want to keep young and future tax revenue producers on line he has just proven that those that can't contribute should not have valuable resources wasted on them.
Right. $50 million for him, well, that's like me sending a twenty to the USO.
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What a stupid comment for him to make to begin with. Think about it; being diagnosed with cancer at 95 years of age. 95 years of age is nearing the end of life age wise to begin with. The body at that age is fragile. Chances are that the body at that age wouldn't be able to withstand chemotherapy nor radiation. At 95 years old, administer palliative care so that they aren't in pain and let them enjoy their end days in as much pain free dignity as possible. The question becomes which would kill them faster, the cancer or the chemo? IF I was 95 years old with cancer, I'd rather spend my days doing what I normally do instead of having an iv of chemo inserted into my veins followed by radiation and perhaps never recovering from the process.
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What a stupid comment for him to make to begin with. Think about it; being diagnosed with cancer at 95 years of age. 95 years of age is nearing the end of life age wise to begin with. The body at that age is fragile. Chances are that the body at that age wouldn't be able to withstand chemotherapy nor radiation. At 95 years old, administer palliative care so that they aren't in pain and let them enjoy their end days in as much pain free dignity as possible. The question becomes which would kill them faster, the cancer or the chemo? IF I was 95 years old with cancer, I'd rather spend my days doing what I normally do instead of having an iv of chemo inserted into my veins followed by radiation and perhaps never recovering from the process.
I would, too. But I also believe that the decision should be left up to the 95-year-old cancer patient and his/her family. The doctor needs to explain the risks and benefits, and then let those directly affected make that choice - not the government.
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I would, too. But I also believe that the decision should be left up to the 95-year-old cancer patient and his/her family. The doctor needs to explain the risks and benefits, and then let those directly affected make that choice - not the government.
PRECISELY! Thank you!
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I would, too. But I also believe that the decision should be left up to the 95-year-old cancer patient and his/her family. The doctor needs to explain the risks and benefits, and then let those directly affected make that choice - not the government.
Absolutely agree. With our aging population, there is a lack of truly affordable assisted living and long term care facilities. Something needs to change. Medicare which we are all forced to get on to once we reach 65 does NOT cover, assisted living, nor does any private health care insurance. They cover nothing. You must have long term care insurance in addition to Medicare and other insurance -- with skyrocketing health care costs, people are lucky to be able to afford health insurance for their current needs -- long term care insurance is astronomical unless one has the foresight and the funds to afford it at an early age.
As an example; in FL, the basic average cost of assisted living is around $3,000.00/month -- assistance with medications, medications, walkers, bathing, etc., is NOT included -- you can tack on with those services about another $2,000.00! As for nursing home care the beginning basic coverage is around $9,000.00/month!
Who can afford that? Medicaid does NOT cover either unless your assets are under $2,000.00 and your income is low enough. Then you are placed in a government facility.
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I would, too. But I also believe that the decision should be left up to the 95-year-old cancer patient and his/her family. The doctor needs to explain the risks and benefits, and then let those directly affected make that choice - not the government.
Totally agree. My mom decided against treatment. What cancer does to an untreated body is horrific. If it's my choice that is one thing. If it's the governments, that is another. Especially if I have the money. Myself..at 95 I don't know that I would go thru that, even knowing the possible ramifications.
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I'll just leave this here:
We should all be so lucky to get to 95 and be told we have cancer.
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catfish wrote:
"Be sure to check (1) that your PCP takes Medicare patients, or won't drop you after 65. (2) If they do, make sure you go routinely, so you don't get dropped. Getting a new PCP after 65 apparently is a dicey thing thing to do."
Yipes.
I'm 70, my PCP is 74 or so. Not sure how much longer he'll keep practicing. Don't look forward to trying to find another when he retires from practice...
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I'll just leave this here:
We should all be so lucky to get to 95 and be told we have cancer.
:amen:
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Totally agree. My mom decided against treatment. What cancer does to an untreated body is horrific. If it's my choice that is one thing. If it's the governments, that is another. Especially if I have the money. Myself..at 95 I don't know that I would go thru that, even knowing the possible ramifications.
My father in-law was dxd with cancer 6 years ago at age 88. They treated him very conservatively and that treatment didn't work. The doctor said that he would not do any type of surgery, chemo or radiation because of his age. He is now at the end of life stages. However -- he has survived 6 years with cancer -- there is no way he would have survived 6 years with chemo.
My Dad was 69 years old, dxd with cancer went through chemo and died 6 months later. He passed 5 days after the last chemo treatment he was given.
After going through both of these scenarios, I'm not so sure that I would opt for chemo. Chemo is brutal. Once you start chemo the quality of life diminishes and obviously if you don't survive or recover from the chemo, your quantity of life is shortened.
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Is there a single person who believes that would happen to Bloomberg if he was 95 and had cancer?
He is citing the #1 reason to refrain from government controlled healthcare.
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Bloomberg Caught On Tape Saying the Elderly Should Be Denied Medical Care Because of Cost Overruns
Brittany M. Hughes
February. 17. 2020
Monday wasn’t a good day for Mike Bloomberg. In fact, it was a really, really bad day.
Just a few hours after a video began circulating online showing the former NYC mayor and current 2020 presidential candidate suggesting that American farmers and factory workers lacked the IQ of tech workers, a second clip began making the rounds on social media showing Bloomberg saying society should deny medical care to the elderly to keep health care costs from “bankrupting us.â€
“If you’re bleeding, we’ll stop the bleeding. If you need an x-ray, you’re gonna have to wait,†Bloomberg told a Jewish family, explaining his view on how our medical system should work.
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/bloomberg-caught-tape-saying-elderly-should-be-denied-medical-care-because-cost-overruns (https://www.mrctv.org/blog/bloomberg-caught-tape-saying-elderly-should-be-denied-medical-care-because-cost-overruns)
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Here's Mini-Mike's fuller quote on health care and it's about more than cancer at 95:
“If you’re bleeding, we’ll stop the bleeding. If you need an x-ray, you’re gonna have to wait,†Bloomberg told a Jewish family, explaining his view on how our medical system should work.
“All of these costs keep going up, no one wants to pay any more money,†he continued. “And at the rate we’re going, health care is going to bankrupt us. So not only do we have a problem, it’s gonna be [unintelligible] and say which things we’re gonna do and which things we’re not. No one wants to do that.â€
“If you show up with prostate cancer, and you’re 95 years old, we should say, ‘Go and enjoy…Lead a long life. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything.’ A young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that yet.â€
https://thefederalistpapers.org/opinion/michael-bloomberg-blows-says-elderly-not-get-medical-care-save-money
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Campaign Ad for his health care should be....
Tumor on your spleen? Think Soylent Green!!!!!!!
What this turd doesn't understand is that what he is proposing is almost already being silently practiced in geriatric medicine anyway.
Next time, watch the level of care, interest, and detail doctors give the 90+ crowd, say versus yourself. What I saw with my 2 inlaws the past 5 years was proof. I am sure there are some compassionate MD s in this speciality of practice, but from my experience it must be rare.
@catfish1957
It's not like he has ever had to worry about having enough money to pay his medical bills. Or even sees any of them. A million bucks is petty cash to him as long as it is money being spend ON him.
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Here's Mini-Mike's fuller quote on health care and it's about more than cancer at 95:
“If you show up with prostate cancer, and you’re 95 years old, we should say, ‘Go and enjoy…Lead a long life. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything.’ A young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that yet.â€
That is ominous.
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The way I see it as soon as the young people reach Medicare age they will already be gone due to their lifestyles.
Pizza in their meal planning with pot for desert.
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That is ominous.
It's exactly what Obamacare promised.
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Here's Mini-Mike's fuller quote on health care and it's about more than cancer at 95:
Mini MIke:
“If you show up with prostate cancer, and you’re 95 years old, we should say, ‘Go and enjoy…Lead a long life. There’s no cure, we can’t do anything.’ A young person, we should do something about it. Society’s not willing to do that yet.â€
I have three friends who died of prostate cancer--in agony. "Go and enjoy"?
(Further comment self-censored to save the Mods the need to edit.)
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It's exactly what Obamacare promised.
“Death panels†was not inaccurate.
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It's exactly what Obamacare promised.
And I believe if Medicare for All is passed, it will be a part of it, if not right away, then very soon. I believe both parties are salivating at the prospect of having control over life and death for us peasants. Oh, they won't admit it, but they are.
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Mini MIke:
I have three friends who died of prostate cancer--in agony. "Go and enjoy"?
I'm sorry to hear about your friends @Smokin Joe Cancer is an awful way to die
But in addition to his comments on treating cancer in later life, Bloombox also told us what he would support doing: "We'll stop the bleeding". Everything else is either a "no" or to the back of the line and wait. And this is just what he admits to.
This guy's a monster.
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I'm sorry to hear about your friends @Smokin Joe Cancer is an awful way to die
But in addition to his comments on treating cancer in later life, Bloombox also told us what he would support doing: "We'll stop the bleeding". Everything else is either a "no" or to the back of the line and wait. And this is just what he admits to.
This guy's a monster.
Definitely NOT someone we want in the White House.
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I'm sorry to hear about your friends @Smokin Joe Cancer is an awful way to die
But in addition to his comments on treating cancer in later life, Bloombox also told us what he would support doing: "We'll stop the bleeding". Everything else is either a "no" or to the back of the line and wait. And this is just what he admits to.
This guy's a monster.
Aren't all radical leftists monsters, though? They put agenda over everything... literally.
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Aren't all radical leftists monsters, though? They put agenda over everything... literally.
They place their desire for control over the rest of us above everything. If Bloomberg is told at age 95 that he has cancer, he would have a full expectation of being treated. He just wants to deny us of that option.
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They place their desire for control over the rest of us above everything. If Bloomberg is told at age 95 that he has cancer, he would have a full expectation of being treated. He just wants to deny us of that option.
Exactly.
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I'll just leave this here:
We should all be so lucky to get to 95 and be told we have cancer.
Three years ago, at 90 my MIL underwent surgery for a rare cancer. She lasted 30 days. Al treatment was covedred by her Blue Shield 65 plus.
Last month my Mother died at 95, at home under paliative hoospice care, her choice.. All care was covered by her Blue Shield 65 plus.
My wife and I are also on Blue Shield 65 plus, and have likewise not been denied any care.
Did this news, get you wound up?
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@catfish1957
It's not like he has ever had to worry about having enough money to pay his medical bills. Or even sees any of them. A million bucks is petty cash to him as long as it is money being spend ON him.
@sneakypete
You got that right. He can be all kind of loosey goosey on standards of elderly health care, as long as he is self insured.
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Three years ago, at 90 my MIL underwent surgery for a rare cancer. She lasted 30 days. Al treatment was covedred by her Blue Shield 65 plus.
Last month my Mother died at 95, at home under paliative hoospice care, her choice.. All care was covered by her Blue Shield 65 plus.
My wife and I are also on Blue Shield 65 plus, and have likewise not been denied any care.
Did this news, get you wound up?
LOL! Not worked up, @truth_seeker Not at all.
Just pissed off that my lineage doesn't have folks who live to see their 90's happy77
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LOL! Not worked up, @truth_seeker Not at all.
Just pissed off that my lineage doesn't have folks who live to see their 90's happy77
you can beat heredity with good lifesyle habits like diet, exercize, etc.
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Aren't all radical leftists monsters, though? They put agenda over everything... literally.
@XenaLee
:amen:
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Aren't all radical leftists monsters, though? They put agenda over everything... literally.
Nice analysis!
The only exception is if they will personally be affected in a negative way, then the rules don't apply.
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@sneakypete
You got that right. He can be all kind of loosey goosey on standards of elderly health care, as long as he is self insured.
The problem is once everyone became dependent on health insurance individual control began slipping away. There's no way back from this problem. Health care costs have exploded with technological improvements, drug costs and govt. oversight. If we continue expanding govt subsidized insurance we will end up much closer to a UK system than an American system, then we will see cancer survival rates drop 35-40% just like the UK.
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you can beat heredity with good lifesyle habits like diet, exercize, etc.
Got that covered, my friend.
But 20 years more?? Don't think so.
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Got that covered, my friend.
But 20 years more?? Don't think so.
I have about 12 more years and I am on borrowed time. Males in my line leave in their 70's...
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The problem is once everyone became dependent on health insurance individual control began slipping away. There's no way back from this problem. Health care costs have exploded with technological improvements, drug costs and govt. oversight. If we continue expanding govt subsidized insurance we will end up much closer to a UK system than an American system, then we will see cancer survival rates drop 35-40% just like the UK.
@bilo
Not to mention importing 3rd world refugees into our cities and packing them in public housing so Dims get votes. These people have never had medical care before,and have all sorts of medical problems that have never been addressed.
AND,of course,WE are paying for their "free" medical care.
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@bilo
Not to mention importing 3rd world refugees into our cities and packing them in public housing so Dims get votes. These people have never had medical care before,and have all sorts of medical problems that have never been addressed.
AND,of course,WE are paying for their "free" medical care.
Not just in our tax dollars, but in every medical bill we pay, taking up slack for those who did not.
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I have about 12 more years and I am on borrowed time. Males in my line leave in their 70's...
:beer:
Same here, @roamer_1
My one of my sons says "Dad, you're on the back nine!" I respond that "Hell, I'm in the clubhouse, sitting by the fire!"
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:beer:
Same here, @roamer_1
My one of my sons says "Dad, you're on the back nine!" I respond that "Hell, I'm in the clubhouse, sitting by the fire!"
@DCPatriot
LOL! What are they gonna do? Take away your birthday? Oh, wait... :pondering:
:silly: :silly: :silly:
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Willie Nelson - Gravedigger
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Geez, guys. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns.
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Geez, guys. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns.
"But"....as the saying goes..."what else can you go by?"
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@bilo
Not to mention importing 3rd world refugees into our cities and packing them in public housing so Dims get votes. These people have never had medical care before,and have all sorts of medical problems that have never been addressed.
AND,of course,WE are paying for their "free" medical care.
:amen: