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Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
Daniel Horowitz · July 2, 2020
Forget about wearing a mask; what we really need to wear in this new version of America is a bulletproof vest or body armor.
As our country burns and life, liberty, and property are gravely threatened in America’s cities, Republican Sen. Tim Scott is focusing on renaming our military bases. Republican Sens. James Lankford and Ron Johnson are focusing on abolishing Columbus Day. Rather than deter and punish the violent anarchist mobs, they are taking their marching orders straight from the mobs. Who said violence is not the answer? Who ever said crime doesn’t pay?
I’ve been tracking the dangerous trend of motorists and truck drivers being attacked by mobs blocking the roads and even highways. One would think they could just avoid the worst neighborhoods of Minneapolis, Chicago, and New York and confidently drive unmolested by the mob. Nope. These people are everywhere, including in small towns in red states, yet they remain just as undeterred as they are in blue states.
On Monday night, a motorist was surrounded on the streets of Provo, Utah, when he was trying to make a right turn. The mob started throwing things at the car, and as he gingerly pushed forward, one of the rioters shot into the car and injured the driver. His wounds are not life-threatening, but others haven’t been as fortunate.
Thankfully, police arrested 33-year-old Jesse Taggart on attempted murder charges. Taggart is believed to have attacked another driver by breaking his window with his gun. What about all the other rioters? Are the roads clear? Were they punished? Why is there no deterrent even in a county where Hillary Clinton won just 14% of the vote?
I’ll tell you why there is no deterrent: Even in states Republicans control, they refuse to punish the rioters unless they shoot someone, they refuse to clear the roads, they refuse to protect the police from unjust lawfare, and they refuse to empower the citizenry to fight back and defend themselves. When they do, they are the ones who get prosecuted, and those sheriffs who call for their defense get fired...
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-republicans-wont-even-fight-self-defense/ (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-republicans-wont-even-fight-self-defense/)
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Horowitz: Republicans won’t even fight for self-defense
Daniel Horowitz · July 2, 2020
Forget about wearing a mask; what we really need to wear in this new version of America is a bulletproof vest or body armor.
As our country burns and life, liberty, and property are gravely threatened in America’s cities, Republican Sen. Tim Scott is focusing on renaming our military bases. Republican Sens. James Lankford and Ron Johnson are focusing on abolishing Columbus Day. Rather than deter and punish the violent anarchist mobs, they are taking their marching orders straight from the mobs. Who said violence is not the answer? Who ever said crime doesn’t pay?
I’ve been tracking the dangerous trend of motorists and truck drivers being attacked by mobs blocking the roads and even highways. One would think they could just avoid the worst neighborhoods of Minneapolis, Chicago, and New York and confidently drive unmolested by the mob. Nope. These people are everywhere, including in small towns in red states, yet they remain just as undeterred as they are in blue states.
On Monday night, a motorist was surrounded on the streets of Provo, Utah, when he was trying to make a right turn. The mob started throwing things at the car, and as he gingerly pushed forward, one of the rioters shot into the car and injured the driver. His wounds are not life-threatening, but others haven’t been as fortunate.
Thankfully, police arrested 33-year-old Jesse Taggart on attempted murder charges. Taggart is believed to have attacked another driver by breaking his window with his gun. What about all the other rioters? Are the roads clear? Were they punished? Why is there no deterrent even in a county where Hillary Clinton won just 14% of the vote?
I’ll tell you why there is no deterrent: Even in states Republicans control, they refuse to punish the rioters unless they shoot someone, they refuse to clear the roads, they refuse to protect the police from unjust lawfare, and they refuse to empower the citizenry to fight back and defend themselves. When they do, they are the ones who get prosecuted, and those sheriffs who call for their defense get fired...
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-republicans-wont-even-fight-self-defense/ (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-republicans-wont-even-fight-self-defense/)
You've got a lot of nerve posting an article about the need to fight back against this rising cultural Marxism...when you've done nothing but undermine the one man fighting the hardest against it. I get that many here don't LIKE the President...but no one can deny that he damn-well fights against these monsters...despite constantly being stabbed in the back by NT's and other useful idiots unwittingly helping the Left. The article itself is excellent, but by undermining the President at every turn you are an agent/useful idiot of those who are the doing their best to destroy the nation. Despicable.
Maybe I'll be banned for saying this, but those who kneecap the man fighting hardest against the Left, have no ethical right to post articles about the dangers of that same Leftist movement.
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but no one can deny that he damn-well fights against these monsters...
I'll deny it outright.
Maybe I'll be banned for saying this, but those who kneecap the man fighting hardest against the Left, have no ethical right to post articles about the dangers of that same Leftist movement.
meh.
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You've got a lot of nerve posting an article about the need to fight back against this rising cultural Marxism...when you've done nothing but undermine the one man fighting the hardest against it. I get that many here don't LIKE the President...but no one can deny that he damn-well fights against these monsters...despite constantly being stabbed in the back by NT's and other useful idiots unwittingly helping the Left. The article itself is excellent, but by undermining the President at every turn you are an agent/useful idiot of those who are the doing their best to destroy the nation. Despicable.
Maybe I'll be banned for saying this, but those who kneecap the man fighting hardest against the Left, have no ethical right to post articles about the dangers of that same Leftist movement.
What has he done besides tweet? Walk across the way and hold up a Bible? Call for prosecution of those who destroy our history? After the fact posting pictures of people rioting.
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I'll deny it outright.
meh.
Let me rephrase, only a blind idiot could deny it.
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You've got a lot of nerve posting an article about the need to fight back against this rising cultural Marxism...when you've done nothing but undermine the one man fighting the hardest against it. I get that many here don't LIKE the President...but no one can deny that he damn-well fights against these monsters...despite constantly being stabbed in the back by NT's and other useful idiots unwittingly helping the Left. The article itself is excellent, but by undermining the President at every turn you are an agent/useful idiot of those who are the doing their best to destroy the nation. Despicable.
Maybe I'll be banned for saying this, but those who kneecap the man fighting hardest against the Left, have no ethical right to post articles about the dangers of that same Leftist movement.
Excellent and true. :thumbsup:
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What has he done besides tweet? Walk across the way and hold up a Bible? Call for prosecution of those who destroy our history? After the fact posting pictures of people rioting.
He uses the bully pulpit...and with great effect. And yes, that is the greatest tool any President has within his power. He’s has, for the record, taken many other actions...up to and including use of the Nstional Guard and deployment of multiple Federal assets. But...of course...orange man bad. So keep shilling for these maniacs in our streets by attacking the only leader we have who is actually standing up to them...it’s just who you are now.
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Let me rephrase, only a blind idiot could deny it.
Only a blind idiot would say he did.
This from a month ago:
Trump mobilizes US military to end unprecedented riots
By Ebony Bowden
June 1, 2020 | 7:07pm | Updated c
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday threatened to use a law from 1807 allowing him to send military forces to states rocked by unrest over the death of George Floyd in a sudden White House Rose Garden address interrupted by the sounds of protesters being cleared out by police nearby.
“We cannot allow the righteous cries of peaceful protesters to be drowned out by an angry mob,†Trump said, declaring himself the “president of law and order†while blaming extremist groups such as Antifa for the unrest.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/president-trump-mobilizing-us-military-to-end-george-floyd-riots/
And of course he didn't. Its what he does. Says he is going to do something and doesn't.
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Let me rephrase, only a blind idiot could deny it.
I ain't blind. But niether am i impressed with vanities and vain symbolism and call it fighting.
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Excellent and true. :thumbsup:
You wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit you in the butt.
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I ain't blind. But niether am i impressed with vanities and vain symbolism and call it fighting.
Impressed...you embody vanity and vain symbolism. You should trade mark both traits ... along with moral narcissism which exudes from your every post.
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Impressed...you embody vanity and vain symbolism. You should trade mark both traits ... along with moral narcissism that exudes from your every post.
Whatever. Like every Tumpster on the planet, attack personally... Lame. But I am used to it by now.
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Whatever. Like every Tumpster on the planet, attack personally... Lame. But I am used to it by now.
You are on a GOP titled message board...and do nothing but aid the cause of extreme Leftism...and you are surprised you’re attacked for doing so? Really? We don’t want these idiots who are burning our businesses and canceling our culture to prevail...and you and Chosen are helping them to do so. You really shouldn’t be all that shocked that conservatives don’t like that.
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You are on a GOP titled message board...and do nothing but aid the cause of extreme Leftism...and you are surprised you’re attacked for doing so? Really? We don’t want these idiots burning our businesses and canceling our culture to prevail...and you and Chosen are helping them to do so. You really shouldn’t be all that shocked that conservatives don’t like that.
I am on a Conservative board? Caving to BLM and calling for renaming military bases is Conservative? Republicans are no longer Conservative. Most are RINO, at best. And of course oneof the newest Republicans in name is the Jeff Vandrew that the President loves. Biggest liberal there is. Approves and endorsed by Planned Parenthood and Sierra Club. And we have Marc Esper. Busy removing pictures of people up for promotions because they might not be black.
And of course Trump and his First Act letting criminals out just because Kayne West said it was a good thing to do.
Wow! That's so Conservative.
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You are on a GOP titled message board...and do nothing but aid the cause of extreme Leftism...and you are surprised your attacked for doing so? Really? We don’t want these idiots burning our businesses and canceling our culture to prevail...and you and Chosen are helping them to do so. You really shouldn’t be all that shocked that conservatives don’t like that.
Keep up the personal attacks. We know it's all you've got.
And it has long been the case that this is NOT a GOP board - It is a conservative board. BIG difference.
And the idiots ARE prevailing precisely becase no one stands in their way, to include the feckless GOP and your dear leader.
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:amen:...to all your posts here.
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Whatever. Like every Tumpster on the planet, attack personally... Lame. But I am used to it by now.
Its all they have.
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Impressed...you embody vanity and vain symbolism. You should trade mark both traits ... along with moral narcissism which exudes from your every post.
I don't think that means what you think it means...
Principled character is like kryptonite to some of you Trump supporters...
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I ain't blind. But niether am i impressed with vanities and vain symbolism and call it fighting.
@roamer_1
Ohhh,the irony.........
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I don't think that means what you think it means...
Principled character is like kryptonite to some of you Trump supporters...
@DB
ROFLAMO! More of a case of acting like petulant 3 years olds who have hissy-fits when they don't get their way.
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I'll deny it outright.
meh.
@roamer_1
Yeah,but you think it's still the 1800's.
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Republicans won't fight for anything, they haven't for years and years. Feckless. They don't want to be in the driver's seat, they want to be in the back so they can take a nap when things get hard. They do love being in that car tho! They are happy to punish lawful defense in an effort to deter lawful defense, then they can campaign on 'See? You need us to protect you!' If folks are still looking to DC to make changes or set things right, you are doing it wrong! Local, Limited, Government. I am a libertarian at heart, but I am certainly not an anarchist. We need government to protect life, liberty, and property because most of us are too busy working to do it ourselves. But it they will not do it, and its becoming more and more clear everyday that they will not, then it's time to do it ourselves.
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KLAVAN: Republican Men Without Chests
By Andrew Klavan
Jul 4th, 2020
DailyWire.comI have a friend who despises Donald Trump. Whenever Trump does something he finds outrageous, my friend mocks the president’s supporters by mimicking their frequent defense of him: “At least he fights.â€
As I’ve often said, Trump is a great big American character with great big American flaws – and some great big American virtues too, often overlooked.
But you know what? At least he fights.
Never-Trumpers have retreated from the political battle we’re actually in to an imaginary world where they are knightly defenders crossing swords with the Ray Harryhausen skeletons of ideological decay. They call their anti-Trump PAC The Lincoln Project. They call their anti-Trump websites The Remnant or The Ramparts. The idea is that they are the last men standing atop the last redoubt fighting for the party of 1860 against the perfidious President the Donald who has so badly disfigured it.
Well, no. ...
rest of article (https://www.dailywire.com/news/klavan-republican-men-without-chests?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro)
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Republicans won't fight for anything, they haven't for years and years. Feckless. They don't want to be in the driver's seat, they want to be in the back so they can take a nap when things get hard. They do love being in that car tho! They are happy to punish lawful defense in an effort to deter lawful defense, then they can campaign on 'See? You need us to protect you!' If folks are still looking to DC to make changes or set things right, you are doing it wrong! Local, Limited, Government. I am a libertarian at heart, but I am certainly not an anarchist. We need government to protect life, liberty, and property because most of us are too busy working to do it ourselves. But it they will not do it, and its becoming more and more clear everyday that they will not, then it's time to do it ourselves.
More than that... Consider they might be in collusion, and your eyes will open wide.
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You wouldn't know truth if it came up and bit you in the butt.
I quit responding to that blithering spamming (expletive). Not worth the 20 extra blood pressure points,
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When you have the neighbors of that St. Louis couple condemning the couple for trying to defend themselves, that says it all about the people of this country.
We have the government we deserve.
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@roamer_1
Yeah,but you think it's still the 1800's.
Got a time machine? I'd be tempted.....
Want to hear a good one? My son kiddingly called me a Luddite last night. I mean I am the guy who had him up in a chair clicking a XT personal computer in 1986, at age 2.
**nononono*
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:2popcorn:
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... this is NOT a GOP board
The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
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KLAVAN: Republican Men Without Chests
By Andrew Klavan
Jul 4th, 2020
DailyWire.comrest of article (https://www.dailywire.com/news/klavan-republican-men-without-chests?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro)
@mountaineer
NAILED IT!
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More than that... Consider they might be in collusion, and your eyes will open wide.
@roamer_1
I see it more of a "Pimp and Whore" relationship,with the Dims being the pimps and the mainstream Republicans their whiny little whores that need a firm master.
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
Okay, and OTOH, what you fail to bring up is that several AT's take the postion that if any conservative says absolutely anything negative, an equal amount of narcisstic driven viritrol is aimed back. And don't dispute it. I have been slimed 100's of times on this board for questioning the POTUS judgement. I choose to be impartial. Many here don't.
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:thumbsup:
Happy Fourth, @Mesaclone
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When you have the neighbors of that St. Louis couple condemning the couple for trying to defend themselves, that says it all about the people of this country.
We have the government we deserve.
@dfwgator
No question about it,but that is NOT the government *I* want.
It is also the reason Trump beat the establishment alleged "Republicans" as well as the establishment Dims.
He did NOT come up through either party "system" by kissing ass and carrying sacks of bribe money for them. In FACT,the opposite is true because he grew up in a system where he had to bribe BOTH of the bastards in order to be able to do what he had already bought permits to do.
He has seen the corruption first hand as well as been a victim of it.
He doesn't owe them a damn thing but revenge.
That right there is enough to make ME vote for him.
Voting for anyone else for President,as well as NOT voting for him makes you complicit in the corruption,as well as a threat to the future of a free America.
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Got a time machine? I'd be tempted.....
Want to hear a good one? My son kiddingly called me a Luddite last night. I mean I am the guy who had him up in a chair clicking a XT personal computer in 1986, at age 2.
**nononono*
Like rap crap? Fan of globalism?
Each generation of "know nothing but suspect a great deal" teens thinks their parents are ignorant fools,lost in time.
With any luck at all,most of them will gradually come to believe substance is more important than what is trendy because it's what the "cool kids" think,and start to look around and think for themselves.
Granted,some never learn because they are too stupid to learn,because it scares them,or because they are totally lacking in character. These people vote Dim or RINO because "they love me and are going to take care of me."
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What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
@Mesaclone
THERE it is! ALL of it!
I am eaten alive with envy because you have the ability to express this so clearly and concisely.
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
Over half the country is susceptible is BLM messaging and support the “protestersâ€; the Democrat Party openly embraces democratic socialism and invites the help of antifa fascists; college campuses are yearly churning out cultural Marxists by the thousands.
But, once the country learns how perfect this conservatism thingy is everyone will suddenly embrace it and the nation will be saved. *****rollingeyes*****
Winston Churchill once said, “You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing after they have tried everything else.â€
Otto von Bismarck said “Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next bestâ€
Right now, in my opinion the next best will have to do to avoid us getting stuck with the absolute worst.
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
You are failing because you have no foundation. You built your house on an unprincipled deeply flawed man and a party that long sold you out. You've placed all your hope in that person, a person who does not have the ability to deliver what you want. As things continue to get worse you keep demanding the same thing. Your course is doomed. Just because others have the wisdom to know better doesn't make them cowardly fools.
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
I was at this site before there was "pure" and "impure". Let me tell you I am proud to wear the "pure" label. At least I am not a RINO on a dog leash being led toward liberalism. If you say Trump hasn't led us to liberalism you are a liar sir.
Look at what you are supporting. "Impure" is just another name for liberal. They look like it and act like it. Spending, gay lobby, BLM, renaming military bases, removing statues. I remember when gay was the kind of sex you chose, not something to celebrate with the Conservative party. I remember when Conservative meant you didn't spend more than you had. I remember when America was something to be proud of not figure out how to change to accommodate every special agenda. I remember when our Federal buildings and Republican offices flew the American flag, not the gay flag. I remember when we supported our allies to. Now we make excuses and call them terrorists to appease dictators.
We have lost our world standing and "pure" used to set us apart as a strong nation with convictions and absolutes. Desires to stand for something. Now we are the "impure" that stands for nothing and caves to every liberal piece of bull crap Nancy can throw out.
And @Mesaclone being Conservative used to mean fighting for freedom. It didn't mean leaving the battlefield to appease dictators like Erdogan and Putin. It didn't mean supporting terrorist by leaving and letting terrorism reign. Not by Jihadist Turkey, Taliban or terrorist supporting Russia.
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You are failing because you have no foundation. You built your house on an unprincipled deeply flawed man and a party that long sold you out.
@DB
You have nothing of value to say if you believe that nonsense. If there were such an option here,I would put you on ignore.
I would suggest you end your posts with "Wahhh,wahhhh,wesa gonna lose so just surrender and save face! Wahhhh,wahhhh,wahhhhh!"
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@DB
You have nothing of value to say if you believe that nonsense. If there were such an option here,I would put you on ignore.
I would suggest you end your posts with "Wahhh,wahhhh,wesa gonna lose so just surrender and save face! Wahhhh,wahhhh,wahhhhh!"
Nice emotional response of no value... I didn't say he was going to lose. I said we are losing - and that should be self evident. But you keep doing the same thing and wondering why... It has to do with leadership and the party that has long sold us out.
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Nice emotional response of no value... I didn't say he was going to lose. I said we are losing - and that should be self evident. But you keep doing the same thing and wondering why... It has to do with leadership and the party that has long sold us out.
@DB
HorseHillary! If you really believed that,you would be voting for Trump.
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Whatever. Like every Tumpster on the planet, attack personally... Lame. But I am used to it by now.
Such a Rube.....you have every earned every 'insult'. In spades.
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@DB
You have nothing of value to say if you believe that nonsense. If there were such an option here,I would put you on ignore.
I would suggest you end your posts with "Wahhh,wahhhh,wesa gonna lose so just surrender and save face! Wahhhh,wahhhh,wahhhhh!"
There is an ignore feature here in your personal settings but I think you already knew that.
This thread is sad...many here insulting ea other on our nation's birthday...
Just stop it!
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@roamer_1
I see it more of a "Pimp and Whore" relationship,with the Dims being the pimps and the mainstream Republicans their whiny little whores that need a firm master.
More like the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals.
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@dfwgator
No question about it,but that is NOT the government *I* want.
It is also the reason Trump beat the establishment alleged "Republicans" as well as the establishment Dims.
I'm just afraid there aren't enough like us, anymore.
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There is an ignore feature here in your personal settings but I think you already knew that.
This thread is sad...many here insulting ea other on our nation's birthday...
Just stop it!
We're supposed to ignore the FACT that this was founded...by YOU...'GOP Briefing Room'.
Ronald Reagan was the figurehead on our masthead until you became weak-kneed in your efforts to console the hoarde which washed up on our front porch.
Now, five years hence...we're the trolls and have become a "pox on the forum".
Happy "Independence Day", @mystery-ak
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Ronald Reagan was the figurehead on our masthead until you became weak-kneed in your efforts to console the hoarde which washed up on our front porch.
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Huh? Why wouldn't anyone not want RWR on the web cover page?
Signed... (The Hoarde?)
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We're supposed to ignore the FACT that this was founded...by YOU...'GOP Briefing Room'.
Ronald Reagan was the figurehead on our masthead until you became weak-kneed in your efforts to console the hoarde which washed up on our front porch.
Now, five years hence...we're the trolls and have become a "pox on the forum".
Happy "Independence Day", @mystery-ak
What useful thing have you ever said? I bet I could do a history search of your posts and find that they are all crap stirring posts about other members. You don't have an opinion of anything.
I joined GOP Briefing room. Not populist Workers Party website.
You’re going to have a worker’s party," Trump said in the May 17 interview. "A party of people that haven’t had a real wage increase in 18 years, that are angry." Trump
Which BTW was evident it wasn't for the worker with all the PPP spending.
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We're supposed to ignore the FACT that this was founded...by YOU...'GOP Briefing Room'.
Ronald Reagan was the figurehead on our masthead until you became weak-kneed in your efforts to console the hoarde which washed up on our front porch.
Now, five years hence...we're the trolls and have become a "pox on the forum".
Happy "Independence Day", @mystery-ak
You got a lot of nerve...why bring this up when all I asked was for everyone to stop the insults.
I have told you several times why RR is not on the masthead...that image belonged to someone else and I was told to stop using it.
A member here volunteered to make me/us a new masthead and holiday banners along with MOD gifs.....I thought he did a great job and more in line with the *briefing room* meme.
If you hate me and TBR so much, which I think you do, why are you here?...
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You got a lot of nerve...why bring this up when all I asked was for everyone to stop the insults.
I have told you several times why RR is not on the masthead...that image belonged to someone else and I was told to stop using it.
A member here volunteered to make me/us a new masthead and holiday banners along with MOD gifs.....I thought he did a great job and more in line with the *briefing room* meme.
If you hate me and TBR so much, which I think you do, why are you here?...
@mystery-ak
I don't hate anybody.
YOU'RE the one who has ignored me since July, 2015 when I called you out for your coddling of the banned hoard.
I used to be your "favorite son". And have your posts to prove it, too. You said once that I was the heart and soul of this forum.
You are actually no different than the "Woke Crowd" who are currently trying to erase our history.
All because you didn't want to upset the hundred posters thrown off TOS...which now only number about two dozen....of which 95% became Trump Supporters.
I have a photographic memory. You should know that in the almost 20 years we've known each other.
You have gone above and beyond to accommodate the few remaining NT's hiding behind the cover of "Conservatism" .
And for what? So posters like @roamer_1 and @Chosen Daughter and @Victoria33 can feel welcomed?
It's bullshit and you know it if you're honest with yourself.
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What useful thing have you ever said? I bet I could do a history search of your posts and find that they are all crap stirring posts about other members. You don't have an opinion of anything.
Screw you, @Chosen Daughter
Maybe you haven't gone back far enough...I came here the day the lights were turned on.
If I have posted anything of worth in the past year or so, it's because I have a grown weary trying to change hearts and minds.
You all know EXACTLY where my political beliefs fall.
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@mystery-ak
I don't hate anybody.
YOU'RE the one who has ignored me since July, 2015 when I called you out for your coddling of the banned hoard.
I used to be your "favorite son". And have your posts to prove it, too. You said once that I was the heart and soul of this forum.
You are actually no different than the "Woke Crowd" who are currently trying to erase our history.
All because you didn't want to upset the hundred posters thrown off TOS...which now only number about two dozen....of which 95% became Trump Supporters.
I have a photographic memory. You should know that in the almost 20 years we've known each other.
You have gone above and beyond to accommodate the few remaining NT's hiding behind the cover of "Conservatism" .
And for what? So posters like @roamer_1 and @Chosen Daughter and @Victoria33 can feel welcomed?
It's bullshit and you know it if you're honest with yourself.
I think you will be happier some place else.
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We're supposed to ignore the FACT that this was founded...by YOU...'GOP Briefing Room'.
Ronald Reagan was the figurehead on our masthead until you became weak-kneed in your efforts to console the hoarde which washed up on our front porch.
Now, five years hence...we're the trolls and have become a "pox on the forum".
Happy "Independence Day", @mystery-ak
"It ain't what you know, it's what you know that ain't so."
And a happy Independence Day to you too! :beer:
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"It ain't what you know, it's what you know that ain't so."
And a happy Independence Day to you too! :beer:
How difficult is it to find another pic of Ronald Reagan for the masthead? Don't bother. That's rhetorical.
The forum rules/standards are setup for the benefit of several hardcore Trump haters. And you know it, @Cyber Liberty
I'm not going to remain silent and cowed into silence. I'm already a 75%/25% lurker/poster, but I will speak up whenever the likes of @Mesaclone ...who is a forum treasure is 'beaten' into submission by the so-called pure conservatives here.
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How difficult is it to find another pic of Ronald Reagan for the masthead? Don't bother. That's rhetorical.
The forum rules/standards are setup for the benefit of several hardcore Trump haters. And you know it, @Cyber Liberty
I'm not going to remain silent and cowed into silence. I'm already a 75%/25% lurker/poster, but I will speak up whenever the likes of @Mesaclone ...who is a forum treasure is 'beaten' into submission by the so-called pure conservatives here.
I've know @Mesaclone for a while too, and he's the last person I'd expect to be cowed into silence. Next to you, of course.
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental.
You may consult @Cyber Liberty or @mystery-ak herself as to the definition of this board - The name being there simply for it's longevity in use - Myst has said openly that she would drop the GOP otherwise. Republicans do not fit into the definition of Conservatism any longer, having moved far to the left. This is most certainly a Conservative board, and not a Republican one.
I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
I use and defend exactly the ONLY historical definition of Conservatism as it touches politics, that being the coalition formed by Goldwater, and later Reagan, comprised of three (the historical three-legged stool) or since Reagan, arguably four factions, and the principles thereof ARE the principles of Conservatism as defined by politics. That is not MY definition, but rather THE definition. Those unhappy with orthodoxy always seek to change it. In this case, that would not be me.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
Oh horse crap. you seek merely to bend my will to your devices without supplying the performance required as defined by the Conservative coalitions. You desire that I ignore my fellows and allow them to be thrown under the bus so that Republicans can once again shirk their duty to the Conservative cause. Had your feckless party and its fetid leader actually upheld Conservatism you would have no problem getting votes...
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You know precisely what I fight for, that can be no mystery. What I JOINED with you to fight for were those very principle things that YOU say are not so defined... Since YOU (in the generic) refuse to honor the coalition by its principles, I am under no obligation to come to your aid. That is the very basis of the agreement, which your side has annulled. So don't come crying to me. You made your bed.
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be.
It is not leaders or parties. It is only the principles to which I adhere. You ask me to forego those principles and help you drive this country into the ground. - Yes, it will be YOU. Fiscally alone, y'all have done more damage than can be undone. BECAUSE of discarded principles. You ask me to endorse what I abhor. I will not.
Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
Nonsense. If you would but uphold Conservatism, plenty would hear the clarion call.That you will not literally makes you (again in the generic) no different than the hoard outside the gate. Again: I require Conservative orthodoxy. I require it because those principles - ALL of them - are required to save this nation. Nothing else will do. Adherence to those principles - ALL OF THEM - has long been the magic that wakes the unstoppable Conservative juggernaut, wherein the conservative factions rise up out of the sea to join together... That is how it is done, That is how they hear the clarion call... That you refuse to supply what is required is not my fault. It is yours.
Marxism owns both sides. Democrat is no different than Republican. The only hope there is will come from Conservatism. Those principles, time honored and age old, have always been the answer. They (ALL OF THEM) are what corrects and heals. To do otherwise is either collusion or insanity. There is no longer room for half measures and insipid clowns.
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@mystery-ak
I don't hate anybody.
YOU'RE the one who has ignored me since July, 2015 when I called you out for your coddling of the banned hoard.
I used to be your "favorite son". And have your posts to prove it, too. You said once that I was the heart and soul of this forum.
You are actually no different than the "Woke Crowd" who are currently trying to erase our history.
All because you didn't want to upset the hundred posters thrown off TOS...which now only number about two dozen....of which 95% became Trump Supporters.
I have a photographic memory. You should know that in the almost 20 years we've known each other.
You have gone above and beyond to accommodate the few remaining NT's hiding behind the cover of "Conservatism" .
And for what? So posters like @roamer_1 and @Chosen Daughter and @Victoria33 can feel welcomed?
It's bullshit and you know it if you're honest with yourself.
@roamer_1 wasn't banned from FR. Neither was I.
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@roamer_1 wasn't banned from FR. Neither was I.
And neither Myst nor I are banned from FR, either. While I did not like how FR became, we parted on good terms. Once I got a ban lifted because I called Michelle O'Bastard a "Wookie." :laugh:
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There is an ignore feature here in your personal settings but I think you already knew that.
@mystery-ak
No,I didn't know. Never had a reason to look until now.
Thank you.
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Voting for anyone else for President,as well as NOT voting for him makes you complicit in the corruption,as well as a threat to the future of a free America.
Messianic bullcrap. No one man can do a damn thing.
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If this conversation stays on TBR Bashing, I'm locking it and I probably won't reopen it. We've had this discussion before and it's fruitless.
FFS, let's get to our Barbecues and call it a wrap.
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You are failing because you have no foundation. You built your house on an unprincipled deeply flawed man and a party that long sold you out. You've placed all your hope in that person, a person who does not have the ability to deliver what you want. As things continue to get worse you keep demanding the same thing. Your course is doomed. Just because others have the wisdom to know better doesn't make them cowardly fools.
Exactly right :beer:
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And neither Myst nor I are banned from FR, either. While I did not like how FR became, we parted on good terms. Once I got a ban lifted because I called Michelle O'Bastard a "Wookie." :laugh:
I was banned, and did not leave on good terms. The repeated Term "Orange Trojan Horse" didn't go over so well at TOS
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Such a Rube.....you have every earned every 'insult'. In spades.
Yeah right wahhhhtever. Yet another drive by. It seems to be all you're good for.
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I was banned, and did not leave on good terms. The repeated Term "Orange Trojan Horse" didn't go over so well at TOS
That would do it. @Bigun told Jim to kiss his ass (or words similar). 333cleo
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@roamer_1 wasn't banned from FR. Neither was I.
That is true. I left of my own accord...
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@DCPatriot I have never doubted how you feel, nor your political stance. When I came into this forum nearly 6 years ago, it took me awhile to figure out the different personalities and later on I remember you telling me that to you DJT was like Superman. That's ok, you are entitled to your opinion and he in a sense is like Superman, dodging the leftist b.s. and prevailing (for the most part). There are some that don't feel that way. They should have every bit of respect as anyone else in this forum. Mutual respect towards one another (for the most part) is why I've never left this forum. We have a handy dandy feature in here called the "ignore" button -- it reduces the frustration from others that I feel a times and I use it.
I would hate to see you opt to leave this forum as you've been a poster here for a very long time.
I heard that they're serving pumpkin, pecan and apple pie in the lounge. Come on in -- pour yourself a drink -- have a piece of pie. PEACE. :beer:
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That would do it. @Bigun told Jim to kiss his ass (or words similar). 333cleo
That was a beautiful thing. I was there.
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That would do it. @Bigun told Jim to kiss his ass (or words similar). 333cleo
Dang... Bigun got his money's worth . I was banned by some female black captain, who I suspect was none of the 3.
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You may consult @Cyber Liberty or @mystery-ak herself as to the definition of this board - The name being there simply for it's longevity in use - Myst has said openly that she would drop the GOP otherwise. Republicans do not fit into the definition of Conservatism any longer, having moved far to the left. This is most certainly a Conservative board, and not a Republican one.
I use and defend exactly the ONLY historical definition of Conservatism as it touches politics, that being the coalition formed by Goldwater, and later Reagan, comprised of three (the historical three-legged stool) or since Reagan, arguably four factions, and the principles thereof ARE the principles of Conservatism as defined by politics. That is not MY definition, but rather THE definition. Those unhappy with orthodoxy always seek to change it. In this case, that would not be me.
Oh horse crap. you seek merely to bend my will to your devices without supplying the performance required as defined by the Conservative coalitions. You desire that I ignore my fellows and allow them to be thrown under the bus so that Republicans can once again shirk their duty to the Conservative cause. Had your feckless party and its fetid leader actually upheld Conservatism you would have no problem getting votes...
You know precisely what I fight for, that can be no mystery. What I JOINED with you to fight for were those very principle things that YOU say are not so defined... Since YOU (in the generic) refuse to honor the coalition by its principles, I am under no obligation to come to your aid. That is the very basis of the agreement, which your side has annulled. So don't come crying to me. You made your bed.
It is not leaders or parties. It is only the principles to which I adhere. You ask me to forego those principles and help you drive this country into the ground. - Yes, it will be YOU. Fiscally alone, y'all have done more damage than can be undone. BECAUSE of discarded principles. You ask me to endorse what I abhor. I will not.
Nonsense. If you would but uphold Conservatism, plenty would hear the clarion call.That you will not literally makes you (again in the generic) no different than the hoard outside the gate. Again: I require Conservative orthodoxy. I require it because those principles - ALL of them - are required to save this nation. Nothing else will do. Adherence to those principles - ALL OF THEM - has long been the magic that wakes the unstoppable Conservative juggernaut, wherein the conservative factions rise up out of the sea to join together... That is how it is done, That is how they hear the clarion call... That you refuse to supply what is required is not my fault. It is yours.
Marxism owns both sides. Democrat is no different than Republican. The only hope there is will come from Conservatism. Those principles, time honored and age old, have always been the answer. They (ALL OF THEM) are what corrects and heals. To do otherwise is either collusion or insanity. There is no longer room for half measures and insipid clowns.
Here's what I know...you don't get to define ANYTHING or ANYBODY. You certainly don’t get to decide what this board stand for...that belongs entirely to mystery.
What you need is an education...as you don't have an effing clue what Marxism is. If you would apply that label to ANYONE on this board, you're a true peawit. DC upholds conservatism. I uphold conservatism. Damn near everyone on this board upholds conservatism. You, on the contrary, are lending a hand in its utter destruction.
This is the fight. Today. Its here at our doorstep. We don't get to go back and choose new teams...its too late for that as the fight is begun....the sides are as they are and there is no middle ground (well, there is, but its populated by the cowardly, the oblivious, and the ignorant). Trump IS the GOP/Conservative President...not of your choosing, but he is all the same the 100% full on leader of conservatism in America. He's what we've got in this fight...there is no time and no way to choose another. If we lose this fight its over...Conservatism, America, you name it, its over. Period.
It doesn't matter if you don't like Trump...or your fellow conservatives...or if you don't approve of those on the Right side of this nation...that's like disapproving of the Sun or the moon. This is the army we got. So get over yourself, and try to understand that the things that are...simply...are. That we elect flawed HUMAN BEINGS, not pristine principles. All you are doing, with your purity and condescension...is working on behalf of the Marxists...and a must say, you're doing a good job.
All that said, out of respect for mystery...who I very much DO respect...I will take a Holiday from this thread and the site for the day. I would make one appeal to mystery, give DC a moment to cool down...DC's contribution, intellectually, to this site is of tremendous value. We all get hot headed in defense of our beliefs....and while I FULLY agree with DC's diagnosis of roamer and Chosen...I will ask that we all stand down and just enjoy the holiday for the rest of the day without rancor.
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Dang... Bigun got his money's worth . I was banned by some female black captain, who I suspect was none of the 3.
I doubt that. Single Black Captain Broad was not a moderator (someone who really was a moderator at FR told me so).
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@mystery-ak
I don't hate anybody.
YOU'RE the one who has ignored me since July, 2015 when I called you out for your coddling of the banned hoard.
I used to be your "favorite son". And have your posts to prove it, too. You said once that I was the heart and soul of this forum.
You are actually no different than the "Woke Crowd" who are currently trying to erase our history.
All because you didn't want to upset the hundred posters thrown off TOS...which now only number about two dozen....of which 95% became Trump Supporters.
I have a photographic memory. You should know that in the almost 20 years we've known each other.
You have gone above and beyond to accommodate the few remaining NT's hiding behind the cover of "Conservatism" .
And for what? So posters like @roamer_1 and @Chosen Daughter and @Victoria33 can feel welcomed?
It's bullshit and you know it if you're honest with yourself.
I never was on TOS, but I can see the problem here. You rely on management getting rid of people you object to. I have never, ever given any president praise when I thought they were doing wrong. I am not going to now either to please you. And it wouldn't be debate if we were all absolute loyalty hacks for the president.
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I never was on TOS, but I can see the problem here. You rely on management getting rid of people you object to. I have never, ever given any president praise when I thought they were doing wrong. I am not going to now either to please you. And it wouldn't be debate if we were all absolute loyalty hacks for the president.
Not at all, woman!
Don't want anybody removed. Just want them to take the ass-kickings they deserve without the owner/management jumping in at first opportunity to shut down the deserving beatdowns.
Carry on.
@Mesaclone Thank you for your kind words. I, too, will get off the thread and try to make something of this sweltering heat and humidity here in D.C..
Happy Independence Day!! :beer:
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I doubt that. Single Black Captain Broad was not a moderator (someone who really was a moderator at FR told me so).
Well that sure is a mystery. She came across like she had me by the throat as one. :pondering:
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I doubt that. Single Black Captain Broad was not a moderator (someone who really was a moderator at FR told me so).
Was "it" ever fully exposed for the fraud it was?
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Well that sure is a mystery. She came across like she had me by the throat as one. :pondering:
A lot of people at TOS acted like they had the owner's ear, and were not above making threats to prove it. It is to Jim's everlasting shame he did not nip that shit in the bud.
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Was "it" ever fully exposed for the fraud it was?
One point I really got nailed on over there was bringing out and pointing out the amount traffic on the site of Russian origin.
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Here's what I know...you don't get to define ANYTHING or ANYBODY. You certainly get to decide what this board stand for...that belongs entirely to mystery.
What you need is an education...as you don't have an effing clue what Marxism is. If you would apply that label to ANYONE on this board, you're a true peawit. DC upholds conservatism. I uphold conservatism. Damn near everyone on this board upholds conservatism. You, on the contrary, are lending a hand in its utter destruction.
This is the fight. Today. Its here at our doorstep. We don't get to go back and choose new teams...its too late for that as the fight is begun....the sides are as they are and there is no middle ground (well, there is, but its populated by the cowardly, the oblivious, and the ignorant). Trump IS the GOP/Conservative President...not of your choosing, but he is all the same the 100% full on leader of conservatism in America. He's what we've got in this fight...there is no time and no way to choose another. If we lose this fight its over...Conservatism, America, you name it, its over. Period.
It doesn't matter if you don't like Trump...or your fellow conservatives...or if you don't approve of those on the Right side of this nation...that's like disapproving of the Sun or the moon. This is the army we got. So get over yourself, and try to understand that the things that are...simply...are. That we elect flawed HUMAN BEINGS, not pristine principles. All you are doing, with your purity and condescension...is working on behalf of the Marxists...and a must say, you're doing a good job.
All that said, out of respect for mystery...who I very much DO respect...I will take a Holiday from this thread and the site for the day. I would make one appeal to mystery, give DC a moment to cool down...DC's contribution, intellectually, to this site is of tremendous value. We all get hot headed in defense of our beliefs....and while I FULLY agree with DC's diagnosis of roamer and Chosen...I will ask that we all stand down and just enjoy the holiday for the rest of the day without rancor.
You are fighting for other than I am. Simple as that.
Your battles are of no worth in my opinion, fighting for that which will not work. Also simple as that.
As an example, *JUST* the fiscal irresponsibility caused by this administration, or at the least approved by same, is enough to negate any and every gain he may have made otherwise.
That bill you would ignore in order to pimp your ride.
In that, you ask me to throw my fiscal conservative brothers under the bus for expediency's sake and to become complicit in that bill with my endorsement. I will not. And anyone who would is doing this country an huge disfavor. That bill will come due. And much to the opposite of your sabre rattling, it is that bill that will likely lay us low - With Tumpy's signature all over it.
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Messianic bullcrap. No one man can do a damn thing.
@roamer_1
Go ahead and keep making excuses for your failures if that is what it takes to get you through the day.
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@roamer_1
Go ahead and keep making excuses for your failures if that is what it takes to get you through the day.
Yep more drive by poo-throwing without a damn thing to say.
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@DCPatriot We have a handy dandy feature in here called the "ignore" button -- it reduces the frustration from others that I feel a times and I use it.
@libertybele
I just spend a half-hour trying to find the damn thing,and still haven't found it. Would you please tell me where it is and how to get there?
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Yep more drive by poo-throwing without a damn thing to say.
@roamer_1
What more needed to be said?
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Not at all, woman!
Don't want anybody removed. Just want them to take the ass-kickings they deserve without the owner/management jumping in at first opportunity to shut down the deserving beatdowns.
Carry on.
@Mesaclone Thank you for your kind words. I, too, will get off the thread and try to make something of this sweltering heat and humidity here in D.C..
Happy Independence Day!! :beer:
Kick away. I can take it.
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@libertybele
I just spend a half-hour trying to find the damn thing,and still haven't found it. Would you please tell me where it is and how to get there?
@sneakypete
- Click your Avatar picture to get to your Profile.
- Below the red "Summary" label, and above your picture, there is a row of buttons. Hover your cursor over "Modify Profile" and a drop-down menu appears, move the cursor down to click on "Buddies/Ignore List..."
- Click "Edit Ignore List"
- Type the name of the person you want to ignore. After you type a few characters you will be presented with the matching names. Click that, then the "Add" button.
Done!
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@sneakypete
- Click your Avatar picture to get to your Profile.
- Below the red "Summary" label, and above your picture, there is a row of buttons. Hover your cursor over "Modify Profile" and a drop-down menu appears, move the cursor down to click on "Buddies/Ignore List..."
- Click "Edit Ignore List"
- Type the name of the person you want to ignore. After you type a few characters you will be presented with the matching names. Click that, then the "Add" button.
Done!
What happens if you ignore yourself?
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What happens if you ignore yourself?
(https://pogoprinciple.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/divide3.jpg)
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How difficult is it to find another pic of Ronald Reagan for the masthead? Don't bother. That's rhetorical.
The forum rules/standards are setup for the benefit of several hardcore Trump haters. And you know it, @Cyber Liberty
I'm not going to remain silent and cowed into silence. I'm already a 75%/25% lurker/poster, but I will speak up whenever the likes of @Mesaclone ...who is a forum treasure is 'beaten' into submission by the so-called pure conservatives here.
You and JimRob would be best friends as far as I can tell. You are, after all both one way SOBs! You can drag up any damned time you please @DCPatriot! If it had been left up to you this place would have long since become a one-note band and gone the way of TOS. You can drag your ass out the door any time and I'll not shed a single tear.
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You've got a lot of nerve posting an article about the need to fight back against this rising cultural Marxism...when you've done nothing but undermine the one man fighting the hardest against it. I get that many here don't LIKE the President...but no one can deny that he damn-well fights against these monsters...despite constantly being stabbed in the back by NT's and other useful idiots unwittingly helping the Left. The article itself is excellent, but by undermining the President at every turn you are an agent/useful idiot of those who are the doing their best to destroy the nation. Despicable.
Maybe I'll be banned for saying this, but those who kneecap the man fighting hardest against the Left, have no ethical right to post articles about the dangers of that same Leftist movement.
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Abusive rants deserve to be ignored unless something can be learned.
That Trump is a fighter was asserted numerous times; so let's see if it's so.
In 1885, Friedrich Drumpf (later Trump) emigrated from Bavaria to the USA
where he was employed as a competent Hotel-keeper.
Upon returning to Bavaria in 1904, he was charged by the German Interior
Ministry w/leaving to escape his military service obligation, labeled a coward
and draft-dodger, punishable by the loss of his German Citizenship while
ordered to leave Bavaria within 8 weeks. He returned to the USA in 1905
where his son Fred was born, the father of POTUS Donald
Now fast forward 63 years to 1968 when Donald Trump was 22 years old and the
War in Vietnam was raging. He had graduated from college, was athletic and healthy,
having competed in intercollegiate baseball, football, golf, squash and tennis.
While in college he had received 4 educational deferments, normal and usual,
then all of a sudden he was declared 4-F, making him draft ineligible. How so???
The Trump Family lived in Jamaica Estates, NYC and were in the apartment rental
business, one of their local tenants being Dr. Larry Braunstein, a Podiatrist who
diagnosed Donald w/bone spurs on the heels of both feet, effectively giving him
a permanent medical deferment.
At that time, daughter Dr. Elysa Braunstein, was her father's office manager.
Later she said openly that Fred Trump made any problem her father had in the
building go away, as a favor; so they took care of each other when necessary.
What conclusions can be drawn?
* There is a pattern of behavior from Grandfather Trump to Donald
which is obvious to anyone not blind and/or stupid.
* The only time the Trumps fight is when their selfish self-interest
is involved, never principle.
Information was culled from the Encyclopedia Britannica.
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Thanks, mesaclone, for your comments early on.
But any thread with Chosen Daughter or roamer in it, isn't worth spending much time in. (they're on my ignore list, and I usually ignore the articles they post as well).
Having said that, Congressional Republicans are sure on the run, are they not?
The number amongst them willing to stand and fight is... small enough to count on one's fingers.
Maybe only on one hand.
There's a war coming. You know that as well as I do.
And there won't be many so-called "Republicans" left afterwards, no matter which side wins.
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Abusive rants deserve to be ignored unless something can be learned.
That Trump is a fighter was asserted numerous times; so let's see if it's so.
In 1885, Friedrich Drumpf (later Trump) emigrated from Bavaria to the USA
where he was employed as a competent Hotel-keeper.
Thanks... How about a bio- on Biden while you are at it.
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I think you will be happier some place else.
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Mystery, your being far too gracious and kind.
To be taken seriously, one must be a serious person.
The seething rage and vulgar tone of several of these
malcontents, self-labels them as nothing more than cranks.
Little wonder Trump is their Dear Leader
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Mystery, your being far too gracious and kind.
To be taken seriously, one must be a serious person.
The seething rage and vulgar tone of several of these
malcontents, self-labels them as nothing more than cranks.
Little wonder Trump is their Dear Leader
"you're" *****rollingeyes*****
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Thanks... How about a bio- on Biden while you are at it.
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Will do soon; what stands out is the mental deterioration early in the males!
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"you're" *****rollingeyes*****
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Correction noted and acknowledged!
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@roamer_1
Go ahead and keep making excuses for your failures if that is what it takes to get you through the day.
@sneakypete
It's like we're all trapped inside an 'Alamo' of our own creation, and Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest are pissed off and refuse to fight because there are no Gatling guns or Winchesters.
Idiot Savants lacking an ounce of common sense.
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@sneakypete
It's like we're all trapped inside an 'Alamo' of our own creation, and Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest are pissed off and refuse to fight because there are no Gatling guns or Winchesters.
Idiot Savants lacking an ounce of common sense.
It is kind of amusing. The majority of people here who you say are dumb and have no common sense are people heavily involved in jobs that require high levels of critical thinking and logic. Where poor thinking/logic results in expensive failed projects and soon puts you out of a job. And the people who play word games for a living that are not bound by physics/reality are just certain the others are fools.
Interesting isn't it.
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How difficult is it to find another pic of Ronald Reagan for the masthead? Don't bother. That's rhetorical.
The forum rules/standards are setup for the benefit of several hardcore Trump haters. And you know it, @Cyber Liberty
I'm not going to remain silent and cowed into silence. I'm already a 75%/25% lurker/poster, but I will speak up whenever the likes of @Mesaclone ...who is a forum treasure is 'beaten' into submission by the so-called pure conservatives here.
I liked Reagan. For the most part, he did a good job, and did it with class.
Unfortunately, after Reagan, the GOP has changed. It has spent years being shepherded by Globalists, not the more nationalistic breed of American we need to truly look out for THIS country's interests, today.
Why?
Because Globalism, as a logistical thing, cannot ever serve the Rights and Liberty of the People. The consolidation of power needed to effectively have globalism as anything functional is better served by Marxist models, where in the end, there is an "elite" who hold dominion over all others and will brook no dissent, not even the worship of a God, whom they see as interfering in their diktats.
The Globalists in the GOP have allowed it, enabled it, encouraged policy which embraces Globalism/socialism, if not propelled it there, or simply stood aside while the Democrat/Marxists have done the job to the cheering and applause of their ignorant pawns. The minority who have not may get some air time and be held out as the face of the Party in election years, but there is no reason otherwise that slide continues than the defection and abandonment of national interests for global ones, no matter what cloak of prosperity for the few who benefit is wrapped around the loss of jobs, essential manufacturing, and the results of American research and development surrendered to foreign manufacturers for increased profit margins, effectively giving away a technological edge in not just trade, but in matters of National Security as well.
We, on the real Right, all want basically the same things, we don't agree on who is the "right" person to help us get them, the methods used to get them, or sometimes, even how much of those things we need to get.
Some would be happy with what used to be called a "centrist" position, but with the changes to the playing field, that's now considered in the MSM to be the "extreme right".
Some of us are farther right than that, some considerably so, combining all the fis-so-neo-crunchy-crusty-paleo- hyphenations in proper proportion into a position we consider to be truly conservative, one which embraces original intent with a few fine tuned changes, but which eschews the consolidation of power and which enforces the rights and Liberty of the individual and their respective States, placing the majority of power at the local and State level.
The current iteration of the GOP is far to the left of that, and Original Intent isn't even on the page, at least with 5 of the 9 at SCOTUS.
So we're going to have differences of opinion, and what is truly "Conservative" is incessantly up for debate.
But right now, despite our differences, we'd better take one thing from Reagan.
We'd better quit kicking people out of the tent, and whether we like, agree with, or even have a hard time tolerating each other, we'd better get our shit together, square the ranks, and face the real enemy in the current Communist (there really is no other word for it--they are avowed Marxists) onslaught we are facing.
This is a war, for our culture, our art, our literature, our history (warts and all), for the soul of America, and I'd be happy to personally bitch slap anyone, ANYONE who would rather squabble than face that fact. Get your head right.
We have a rare gift, one bestowed upon us by the Grace of Almighty God, and a handful of men who pledged their Lives, their fortunes and their Sacred Honor to make it come about. Even after a protracted conflict, in which many battles, lives, and fortunes were lost, the War was won, and we had men intelligent enough to propose a form of government which permitted those individual nations to work in concert, and who, even more so, could recognize when those Articles of Confederation were insufficient for a lasting future, and to abandon those and devise a form of Government like no other on this planet, one which endured so long as we abide by it's basic principles.
That's where principles come in.
You cannot discard them without discarding the Republic that is built upon them, any more than you can jerk stones from a foundation and expect an edifice to stand. All the pragmatism in the universe will not fill that void, and sooner or later, the structure will crumble and collapse. This is something the Marxists know, and they have been chipping away at those foundations since before my lifetime, under a half dozen names, but all preaching the same god, the State.
You fight a war with the army you have, and the war of ideas is how we got to lawless zones in cities burning, occupied by avowed Marxists, their fellow travelers, and ignorant tools.
Our Army starts with the CinC, and goes right down to the lowliest keyboard commando, fought on every front from Service in the Armed Forces, to standing in front of a liquor store with a rifle during a riot, to posts on twitter.
If NOW, of all times you long for the old days of whatever you consider "purity", then stand alone in the square and fight.
Watch impotently as the icons of the past are replaced with the SJW marxist drivel of the future and enjoy your chains.
Damnit, the one consistent and ever-present tactic of the Communists is to divide their enemies and get them fighting amongst themselves. THEY don't do that until it is time to divide the spoils. They might martyr a couple to further the cause, but until the war is won, they'll be together. The farther I look back, the more I see of this divisive influence on the Conservative, the AMERICAN side of the equation, and the more evident in history is the obvious divisions placed in the Right by the Left, the Alinsky tactics used againstJoe McCarthy, the John Birch Society (Anticommunist, not antisemitic), Goldwater, and every Conservative who wants or has wanted a restoration of the Republic.
Wake up and see you have more allies than you would ever guess, if you have the sense to embrace them, and that goes for all of us, even as we face a much more dangerous enemy than any here.
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That is true. I left of my own accord...
Same here.
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You are on a GOP titled message board...and do nothing but aid the cause of extreme Leftism...and you are surprised you’re attacked for doing so? Really? We don’t want these idiots who are burning our businesses and canceling our culture to prevail...and you and Chosen are helping them to do so. You really shouldn’t be all that shocked that conservatives don’t like that.
I agree. I never understand why people would undermine our best president ever. And I can back that up.
WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM) Most lefts don't want to see all his accomplishments, then say they don't see any. That is lame.
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Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF7XXUQ7y60&t=654s#)
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Instead of blaming republicans......why don't they ask why are DEMON-RATS...lefts, determined to destroy America? THAT IS THE QUESTION. Then, republicans won't have to ACT or defend anything. Always backwards. I do agree, most republican's are too scared or afraid to do anything. STEVE SCALICE. Minding his business, playing a ball game..SHOT BY A DEMON-RAT. Every person since Lincoln has been a demon-rat, shooting people & presidents. WHY? I think something mental going on.
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Good freaking grief! I wanted to see fireworks tonight....
but not THIS kind of fireworks! 9999hair out0000
Everybody calm the eff down, for hellsakes.
And remember the most pertinent and timely truism of all....
United we stand... divided we fall.
(sheesh)
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It is kind of amusing. The majority of people here who you say are dumb and have no common sense are people heavily involved in jobs that require high levels of critical thinking and logic. Where poor thinking/logic results in expensive failed projects and soon puts you out of a job. And the people who play word games for a living that are not bound by physics/reality are just certain the others are fools.
Interesting isn't it.
I know a lot of high IQ people who have no interest in wearing clean clothes and have a total lack of common sense and pragmatism.
"You go to war with the army you have...not the want you wish for". There's a reason ages-old sayings survive.
That's "interesting" too! happy77
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The site is literally named "GOPbriefingroom". The depths to which you must delude yourself to maintain your self constructed ideological facade...are monumental. I'll give you a hint....you're not more conservative than the rest of us...you're not more principled in your conservatism...you're clearly not as well educated on what conservatism is...you don't see the President and who he is more clearly than the rest of us...and you do not get to define conservatism by your own definition.
What you and NT's have become, are simply condescending moral narcissists who sit on the sidelines whilst other men...and brave women...fight the fight of our century to preserve the soul of this country. And make no mistake, that is exactly what we are in the midst of. You do so by claiming that you and a select few others are the only true conservatives because the rest of us (and the President) don't see and do everything you think they should do.
You are the very definition of why conservatives are losing this country...in the face of Marxist revolution, you lack the core sense of rectitude and humility....common sense...to join with other "impure" conservatives (as you see them) to resist. My god man, do you think the Founding Fathers didn't have strong disagreements that they put aside in the face of British bayonets?
You didn't get the army and the exact leader you wanted...boo-hooo....and you seem to think this fact grants you the excuse of cowardly sitting on your hands and watching the rest of us fail because the Right in this country isn't as pure as you want it to be. Your inability to unite in the face of a determined and ruthless enemy is why we will quite likely lose this fight. Even then, when that becomes a reality, you will gloat and do nothing and proclaim how right you were that others weren't conservative enough and so the nation was lost...that lie will be the hill on which freedom dies. The epitaph of conservatism will be "they fought each other whilst Marxism crushed their freedoms and stole from them the greatest nation the world has ever seen".
Well said @Mesaclone :thumbsup:
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Well said @Mesaclone :thumbsup:
Love @Mesaclone
Reminds me of @MACVSOG68 and others like him that used to call this forum home.
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Okay, and OTOH, what you fail to bring up is that several AT's take the postion that if any conservative says absolutely anything negative, an equal amount of narcisstic driven viritrol is aimed back. And don't dispute it. I have been slimed 100's of times on this board for questioning the POTUS judgement. I choose to be impartial. Many here don't.
I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war. :shrug:
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Love @Mesaclone
Reminds me of @MACVSOG68 and others like him that used to call this forum home.
True, sad, but true. Although @Mesaclone would have more than held his own even back then. happy77
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I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war. :shrug:
Exactly!
Pick a GD side.
Sitting on the sideline claiming "Not my circus...not my monkeys" deserves all the derision one can muster.
Bunch of freakazoids!
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I personally don't understand how one can be impartial in the middle of a war. :shrug:
It's easy, if you are selling bullets to both sides.
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I liked Reagan. For the most part, he did a good job, and did it with class.
Unfortunately, after Reagan, the GOP has changed. It has spent years being shepherded by Globalists, not the more nationalistic breed of American we need to truly look out for THIS country's interests, today.
Why?
Because Globalism, as a logistical thing, cannot ever serve the Rights and Liberty of the People. The consolidation of power needed to effectively have globalism as anything functional is better served by Marxist models, where in the end, there is an "elite" who hold dominion over all others and will brook no dissent, not even the worship of a God, whom they see as interfering in their diktats.
The Globalists in the GOP have allowed it, enabled it, encouraged policy which embraces Globalism/socialism, if not propelled it there, or simply stood aside while the Democrat/Marxists have done the job to the cheering and applause of their ignorant pawns. The minority who have not may get some air time and be held out as the face of the Party in election years, but there is no reason otherwise that slide continues than the defection and abandonment of national interests for global ones, no matter what cloak of prosperity for the few who benefit is wrapped around the loss of jobs, essential manufacturing, and the results of American research and development surrendered to foreign manufacturers for increased profit margins, effectively giving away a technological edge in not just trade, but in matters of National Security as well.
We, on the real Right, all want basically the same things, we don't agree on who is the "right" person to help us get them, the methods used to get them, or sometimes, even how much of those things we need to get.
Some would be happy with what used to be called a "centrist" position, but with the changes to the playing field, that's now considered in the MSM to be the "extreme right".
Some of us are farther right than that, some considerably so, combining all the fis-so-neo-crunchy-crusty-paleo- hyphenations in proper proportion into a position we consider to be truly conservative, one which embraces original intent with a few fine tuned changes, but which eschews the consolidation of power and which enforces the rights and Liberty of the individual and their respective States, placing the majority of power at the local and State level.
The current iteration of the GOP is far to the left of that, and Original Intent isn't even on the page, at least with 5 of the 9 at SCOTUS.
So we're going to have differences of opinion, and what is truly "Conservative" is incessantly up for debate.
But right now, despite our differences, we'd better take one thing from Reagan.
We'd better quit kicking people out of the tent, and whether we like, agree with, or even have a hard time tolerating each other, we'd better get our shit together, square the ranks, and face the real enemy in the current Communist (there really is no other word for it--they are avowed Marxists) onslaught we are facing.
This is a war, for our culture, our art, our literature, our history (warts and all), for the soul of America, and I'd be happy to personally bitch slap anyone, ANYONE who would rather squabble than face that fact. Get your head right.
We have a rare gift, one bestowed upon us by the Grace of Almighty God, and a handful of men who pledged their Lives, their fortunes and their Sacred Honor to make it come about. Even after a protracted conflict, in which many battles, lives, and fortunes were lost, the War was won, and we had men intelligent enough to propose a form of government which permitted those individual nations to work in concert, and who, even more so, could recognize when those Articles of Confederation were insufficient for a lasting future, and to abandon those and devise a form of Government like no other on this planet, one which endured so long as we abide by it's basic principles.
That's where principles come in.
You cannot discard them without discarding the Republic that is built upon them, any more than you can jerk stones from a foundation and expect an edifice to stand. All the pragmatism in the universe will not fill that void, and sooner or later, the structure will crumble and collapse. This is something the Marxists know, and they have been chipping away at those foundations since before my lifetime, under a half dozen names, but all preaching the same god, the State.
You fight a war with the army you have, and the war of ideas is how we got to lawless zones in cities burning, occupied by avowed Marxists, their fellow travelers, and ignorant tools.
Our Army starts with the CinC, and goes right down to the lowliest keyboard commando, fought on every front from Service in the Armed Forces, to standing in front of a liquor store with a rifle during a riot, to posts on twitter.
If NOW, of all times you long for the old days of whatever you consider "purity", then stand alone in the square and fight.
Watch impotently as the icons of the past are replaced with the SJW marxist drivel of the future and enjoy your chains.
Damnit, the one consistent and ever-present tactic of the Communists is to divide their enemies and get them fighting amongst themselves. THEY don't do that until it is time to divide the spoils. They might martyr a couple to further the cause, but until the war is won, they'll be together. The farther I look back, the more I see of this divisive influence on the Conservative, the AMERICAN side of the equation, and the more evident in history is the obvious divisions placed in the Right by the Left, the Alinsky tactics used againstJoe McCarthy, the John Birch Society (Anticommunist, not antisemitic), Goldwater, and every Conservative who wants or has wanted a restoration of the Republic.
Wake up and see you have more allies than you would ever guess, if you have the sense to embrace them, and that goes for all of us, even as we face a much more dangerous enemy than any here.
Thank you, @Smokin Joe for such a thoughtful reply! :patriot:
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Thank you, @Smokin Joe for such a thoughtful reply! :patriot:
You're welcome. Have a great Independence Day. :patriot:
We must hang together, or we shall certainly hang separately
Benjamin Franklin
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It's easy, if you are selling bullets to both sides.
Please explain. Thanks @Smokin Joe
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@sneakypete
- Click your Avatar picture to get to your Profile.
- Below the red "Summary" label, and above your picture, there is a row of buttons. Hover your cursor over "Modify Profile" and a drop-down menu appears, move the cursor down to click on "Buddies/Ignore List..."
- Click "Edit Ignore List"
- Type the name of the person you want to ignore. After you type a few characters you will be presented with the matching names. Click that, then the "Add" button.
Done!
@Cyber Liberty
Thank you,thank you,thank you! Copied and pasted to my desktop so I won't forget how to do it.
Probably.
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Please explain. Thanks @Smokin Joe
Those who only seek financial gain don't take a side, except to protect their investments; they make a profit.
If that means selling bullets to both sides, so be it. Their loyalty is only to their bottom line.
Look carefully at who set up who during WWII, for instance, industrially.
I.G. Farben (still not dissolved after all these years)https://www.csmonitor.com/1989/0809/farb.html (https://www.csmonitor.com/1989/0809/farb.html)
Bayer, now merged with Monsanto...(Agent Orange)https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/History_of_Bayer (https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/History_of_Bayer)
Just to name a couple.
For extra fun, see: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar)
Things are never as simple as presented, and many 'angels' are demons in disguise.
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Thanks, mesaclone, for your comments early on.
But any thread with Chosen Daughter or roamer in it, isn't worth spending much time in. (they're on my ignore list, and I usually ignore the articles they post as well).
Having said that, Congressional Republicans are sure on the run, are they not?
The number amongst them willing to stand and fight is... small enough to count on one's fingers.
Maybe only on one hand.
There's a war coming. You know that as well as I do.
And there won't be many so-called "Republicans" left afterwards, no matter which side wins.
@Fishrrman
Correct in all respects,but the part I put in bold are,IMHO,the root of the problem. At any rate,they are the ones that piss me off the most. We SHOULD be able to expect elected Republican officials to act like actual Republicans,but that ain't the way it works these days. These days candidates do some research and find out which party is most likely to win an election in that area,and suddenly,like magic,THEY IZ ONE!
Bunch of self-serving back-stabbing bastards.
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@sneakypete
It's like we're all trapped inside an 'Alamo' of our own creation, and Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest are pissed off and refuse to fight because there are no Gatling guns or Winchesters.
Idiot Savants lacking an ounce of common sense.
@DCPatriot
"Rite or wrong,ah have picked my ground,and ahma gonna stick wid it,come hell or high water causen I am never rong!"
Must be nice to live in an artificial world,where everyone is honest and no one would lie to you or cheat you,huh?
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I know a lot of high IQ people who have no interest in wearing clean clothes and have a total lack of common sense and pragmatism.
"You go to war with the army you have...not the want you wish for". There's a reason ages-old sayings survive.
That's "interesting" too! happy77
My brother, the doctor, went through medical school in record time, while supporting his wife & child. Then he was valedictorian of his H.S. class. Straight A'S...all four years. He voted for Obama and is a democrat. He thinks he is some SJW..but could care less about his sister, me, or my children. He did go to Karachi, Pakistan for 2 years to help them there, before he had to leave or be beheaded. My son, can't believe his uncles belief system. SCREWED UP.
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Well after skimming over the posts for an half hour.... Just seems like the same couple of posters that are ticked they can't just big tech block opinions they don't like.... A few high-fives between the same posters and all is well.
I like the forum because it gives insight from a few views. I don't care for the name calling some seem to have rutted into doing.
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I was banned, not perma banned at the TOS... But I am sure I am on some list somewhere.. after being piled upon by the same that would do it here if they were given some real power. The Harpies live on I guess...
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I carry a Never-Trump title... but I don't go out of my way to hate on Trump... he does that for himself it seems.
“All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing†- "O’Sullivan’s First Law: An eternal truth†by John O’Sullivan,
Now which side is pushing not criticizing the President no matter what warts he has? And Why? I will remain Christian Conservative and will not call evil good and vice versa.
Character still matters. The rest can talk about putting others on ignore lists.
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Exactly!
Pick a GD side.
Sitting on the sideline claiming "Not my circus...not my monkeys" deserves all the derision one can muster.
Bunch of freakazoids!
F off. I'm voting for the jerk. What else do you want me to do? Kiss his ass? 9999hair out0000
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F off. I'm voting for the jerk. What else do you want me to do? Kiss his ass? 9999hair out0000
Aww, shut the hell up. Nobody's referring to you. You declared your vote for President Trump eons ago.
Afterall, who would get pissed off at somebody who shares my love of baseball? :laugh:
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My brother, the doctor, went through medical school in record time, while supporting his wife & child. Then he was valedictorian of his H.S. class. Straight A'S...all four years. He voted for Obama and is a democrat. He thinks he is some SJW..but could care less about his sister, me, or my children. He did go to Karachi, Pakistan for 2 years to help them there, before he had to leave or be beheaded. My son, can't believe his uncles belief system. SCREWED UP.
I know a literal genius. He can speak engagingly with a person on any level.
But, you cannot get 3 feet into his house in fear of being buried in literal 'mountains' of trash which he calls memorabilia.
Six cases of used 7-11 "Big Gulp" cups...sorted by color. But no place to sit.
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Aww, shut the hell up. Nobody's referring to you. You declared your vote for President Trump eons ago.
Afterall, who would get pissed off at somebody who shares my love of baseball? :laugh:
My apologies then. I thought light was being made of my trying to be objective and impartial. I just ask that my occasional critiiscm of Trump and his decisions not be construed as traiterous in the eyes of the AT side. I try to call 'em , as I see 'em. It's up there with statue destruction as personal flash point.
BTW... Saw a pic of Chuck Schumer wearing a Nat's cap. Any chance you guys sharing a box next season? :bolt:
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BTW... Saw a pic of Chuck Schumer wearing a Nat's cap. Any chance you guys sharing a box next season? :bolt:
LOL!
Years ago, I found myself on the same flight with Schumer, from Baltimore to Buffalo, NY.
He was going there to speak at a 'New and Improved' Buffalo airport wing or something. I was just going for a haircut.
There was no 1st Class, etc., just the standard 737.
Still think how easy it would have been to stab him in the eye with my plastic fork. (insert evil grin)
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But right now, despite our differences, we'd better take one thing from Reagan.
We'd better quit kicking people out of the tent, and whether we like, agree with, or even have a hard time tolerating each other, we'd better get our shit together, square the ranks, and face the real enemy in the current Communist (there really is no other word for it--they are avowed Marxists) onslaught we are facing.
For the sale of the likes of Tumpy, Romney, or McCain't? For the lion's share of the RINOs that make up the Republicans?
Decades of voting for anyone with a pulse, simply because he is 'better than a democrat' has left the 'army you have' every bit as inclined toward globalism - and a carbon copy of the democrats y'all abhor.
The army you have, indeed. Like more of the same will get you anywhere.
This is a war, for our culture, our art, our literature, our history (warts and all), for the soul of America, and I'd be happy to personally bitch slap anyone, ANYONE who would rather squabble than face that fact. Get your head right.
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Wake up and see you have more allies than you would ever guess, if you have the sense to embrace them, and that goes for all of us, even as we face a much more dangerous enemy than any here.
Sure. More rinos. Less purity. Because murica. *****rollingeyes*****
Bullcrap. Not gonna fix a damn thing. I'm out.
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For the sale of the likes of Tumpy, Romney, or McCain't? For the lion's share of the RINOs that make up the Republicans?
Decades of voting for anyone with a pulse, simply because he is 'better than a democrat' has left the 'army you have' every bit as inclined toward globalism - and a carbon copy of the democrats y'all abhor.
The army you have, indeed. Like more of the same will get you anywhere.
Sure. More rinos. Less purity. Because murica. *****rollingeyes*****
Bullcrap. Not gonna fix a damn thing. I'm out.
Like I said earlier... no Gatling guns or Winchester repeaters, so you'll just curl up in the corner and suck your thumbs. :seeya:
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Like I said earlier... no Gatling guns or Winchester repeaters, so you'll just curl up in the corner and suck your thumbs. :seeya:
Worse than that. No NOTHING. Fart in their general direction. That'll teach em.
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Everyone on the left is FAR LEFT. and in lockstep.
That is why they are successful
The right and its big tent have largely let in leftward to moderates... And couldn't pass a bill if they were paid to. Unless of course it's a spending bill...
Your big tent and redefinitions have left you literally toothless.
And then y'all blame it on the RINOs that Y'ALL elected, and bitch at me for being too pure.
It's a laugh riot. The 'army you have' couldn't fight it's way out of a wet paper bag, even if it could decide it wants to.
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For the sale of the likes of Tumpy, Romney, or McCain't? For the lion's share of the RINOs that make up the Republicans?
Decades of voting for anyone with a pulse, simply because he is 'better than a democrat' has left the 'army you have' every bit as inclined toward globalism - and a carbon copy of the democrats y'all abhor.
The army you have, indeed. Like more of the same will get you anywhere.
Sure. More rinos. Less purity. Because murica. *****rollingeyes*****
Bullcrap. Not gonna fix a damn thing. I'm out.
The left has their useful idiots. Unless and until we step in and remind our side who is the power, they will continue to treat us as the same. Abandoning ship is no way to stay in the fight.
Besides, the point was not to kick us out of the tent for our purity of vision. They need us, without them we are just disenfranchised patriots, waiting for our time. Not much new about that in the past 30 years.
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The left has their useful idiots. Unless and until we step in and remind our side who is the power, they will continue to treat us as the same. Abandoning ship is no way to stay in the fight.
Besides, the point was not to kick us out of the tent for our purity of vision. They need us, without them we are just disenfranchised patriots, waiting for our time.
Nope. I spent thirty years under that line of thinking and got less than nothing. In fact, the Republicans moved far left and now consider centrists to be the right, and leftists to be center.
I am not going there anymore. Put up or shut up. I refuse to conspire with the very people who are selling us down the river on the promise of a promise that never comes.
Lucy and the football all over again.
Have at it. Not me.
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You see what it says under my avatar. And has for quite a while.
Every day of this bullshot gets us...
One day closer.
The day you have to decide to live free or die.
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The day you have to decide to live free or die.
That decision is already made. And that is why I no longer support feckless politicians.
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The left has their useful idiots. Unless and until we step in and remind our side who is the power, they will continue to treat us as the same. Abandoning ship is no way to stay in the fight.
Besides, the point was not to kick us out of the tent for our purity of vision. They need us, without them we are just disenfranchised patriots, waiting for our time. Not much new about that in the past 30 years.
It isn't about purity. Its a about a losing strategy. We will not make progress until people are willing to leave the plantation where the politicians are forced to earn our vote instead of just giving us the false choice of the lesser evil. Every election the sheep run in fear that it will be the end of the world if we "lose" so we have to accept a crap sandwich instead of actual progress based on fundamental principles of smaller government and fiscal restraint. And meanwhile the slide into oblivion continues.
This nightmare repeats every election.
Enough is enough. Just because some of us have reached this conclusion sooner than others doesn't make us cowards, dumb or all the other crap thrown at us. In fact it takes some courage to not run with the sheep.
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Nope. I spent thirty years under that line of thinking and got less than nothing. In fact, the Republicans moved far left and now consider centrists to be the right, and leftists to be center.
I am not going there anymore. Put up or shut up. I refuse to conspire with the very people who are selling us down the river on the promise of a promise that never comes.
Lucy and the football all over again.
Have at it. Not me.
Oh, I'm not sending money--and I am sure I am not alone. Only to a particular candidate once in a great while. I'm not on the inside, like many pushed to the edge. I'm okay with that, but I will be heard.
My present Party affiliation? None, unless it is Constitution Party and I'm not completely sure about that.
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Oh, I'm not sending money--and I am sure I am not alone. Only to a particular candidate once in a great while. I'm not on the inside, like many pushed to the edge. I'm okay with that, but I will be heard.
My present Party affiliation? None, unless it is Constitution Party and I'm not completely sure about that.
That's fine... And about where I am.
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That's fine... And about where I am.
Me neither. The Republican party isn't Republican anymore. Even the President supports candidates that are Planned Parenthood and Sierra Club endorsed. They bow to everything the Chuck and Nancy show ask of them.
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It isn't about purity. Its a about a losing strategy. We will not make progress until people are willing to leave the plantation where the politicians are forced to earn our vote instead of just giving us the false choice of the lesser evil. Every election the sheep run in fear that it will be the end of the world if we "lose" so we have to accept a crap sandwich instead of actual progress based on fundamental principles of smaller government and fiscal restraint. And meanwhile the slide into oblivion continues.
This nightmare repeats every election.
Enough is enough. Just because some of us have reached this conclusion sooner than others doesn't make us cowards, dumb or all the other crap thrown at us. In fact it takes some courage to not run with the sheep.
Right. But the two intersect as far as Conservatism is concerned... The reason for the Conservative Coalition was to protect each other's principles like we do our own... And in that, form a voting bloc.
In frittering conservatism away, in throwing principles and factions under the bus, the current strategy is counterproductive.
When I will not throw fiscal Conservatives under the bus, that is for unity. That is for strategy, every bit as much as for the principles being ignored. Do you think fiscal conservatives will vote *for* massive spending, and unbalanced budgets because 'we're better than the democrats'?
Not a chance in hell. What does Tumpy offer them that they want?
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Me neither. The Republican party isn't Republican anymore. Even the President supports candidates that are Planned Parenthood and Sierra Club endorsed. They bow to everything the Chuck and Nancy show ask of them.
There ain't a single bit of sense in it.
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That's fine... And about where I am.
I guess the way to explain it is this. I want our fellow purt'near and hyphenated conservative folks to see the true depth of that stance and how it relates to us, the American People. If we just follow that every citizen has those unalienable Rights, from the BOR and beyond (including, by mention, those not mentioned), and the limits on the FEDGOV placed there to stop the sort of consolidation of power that can sell us all down the river with the votes of 269 people and a signature or the rulings of 5 (lately).
No way in Hell the Founders would have wanted that much power consolidated in any one place.
Nor, for that matter, do I.
Consider the Dems march in lockstep behind the totalitarian Communist model, and a pile of 'pubbies are for consolidating power because they see that as the ticket to personal relevance and riches, (Actually the same reason those Dems do), we're sorely lacking in representation in DC. Most of the states here that have their stuff together have only one vote in the House, and often that is selected by one or two largest towns representing a tiny fraction of the actual land area.
I haven't lost sight of the goal, nor my principles, but I'm afraid if we wait until we have a government composed of folks pure in ideals and behaviour enough to carry the torch, we're going to miss the Last Trumpet.
Unfortunately, and considering we're sinners, all, that means some of the people we are going to have to work with are just going to have to keep their nose clean for the duration of their service.
Right now, in DC, I am convinced that so many people have career/marriage/fortune/(all three) ending DIRT on each other, that is the reason that none step forth to take the mess down. Some of that may be decades old, some may be fresh and ongoing, but it is the little corroborative witnesses who end up victims of botched robberies, car accidents, suicide, die in mysterious fires, or are found, eventually, in obscure places in obscure parks with new orifices, or too decayed/damaged to assess. And it's on both sides of the aisle, rampant throughout every agency at every level, on videotape, set up and ready to be 'disclosed' as soon as the blanks are filled in on the accounts, etc.
...and it is going global.
We have to find a way to shut that down. For that, we're gonna need a bigger army.
As an aside the only reason aside from a denser population of folks inclined toward such unnatural acts I can see that those unnatural behaviours keep getting 'mainstreamed' is that those holding that dirt will lose some of the tonnage they have on others because it won't be a big deal any more in the eyes of the lemmings. I try to pick up on the trends by seeing what is the latest on the shows I won't watch, and kiddie rapers seem to be picking up steam, along with the now usual perversions. Commercials advertising HIV drugs have more faggotry in a 30 second spot than I'd ordinarily watch in a month, and that by accident, and the only reason to spam the viewing public with all that is desensitization. I am sure the folks who acquire HIV have their own network to distribute that information, if not a few of them keeping track of the latest treatments, so what's the market on prime time?
What they are marketing isn't the drug it's the behaviour.
So, like with Billy Clinton getting a 'little strange' from an intern, if the moral expectations of the people are low enough, much of the dirt is DC blends right in with the rug. And even then the press lied about it being "just about sex" while winking, when the issue was Obstruction of Justice and Perjury (the same charges they went after Nixon over. Drugs are presented as just fine, or downright legalized, and the whole show is swirling around the big pipe.
Oh, well, compared to what comes after, this'll only hurt for a little while, but for now, it is frustrating.
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That decision is already made. And that is why I no longer support feckless politicians.
Right. The decision has been made. I meant that as a general advisory to people reading this that have NO clue to the life we lead.
Our local LEO friend was telling my wife he has some fears of just being on patrol and being killed in a random act of violence. I mean assassinated.
She told him if he needed to a place to run to, with his wife and kids, to come here. He kinda loled. Like Bighead would defend me? Of course he would. He says but i've tased him. She said yeah but he doesn't care about that. He doesn't hold a grudge. He doesn't even consider it that way. He considers that a game.
More to the point. She asked him , if you get a call to come to come to my house, how many officers respond?
All of us.
She said exactly. If the police are afraid of him, then how do you think the bendejos down the street feel?
So the last place anyone would think to look for him is here.
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It isn't about purity. Its a about a losing strategy. We will not make progress until people are willing to leave the plantation where the politicians are forced to earn our vote instead of just giving us the false choice of the lesser evil. Every election the sheep run in fear that it will be the end of the world if we "lose" so we have to accept a crap sandwich instead of actual progress based on fundamental principles of smaller government and fiscal restraint. And meanwhile the slide into oblivion continues.
This nightmare repeats every election.
Enough is enough. Just because some of us have reached this conclusion sooner than others doesn't make us cowards, dumb or all the other crap thrown at us. In fact it takes some courage to not run with the sheep.
Yep, and as simple minded as I am, I do feel some small comfort I got this through my thick head a few elections ago. I am just waiting for others to realize what a genius I have been, lol.
If the election was held tomorrow and it pitted Jesus himself vs Paul.... I would hope I would vote Jesus, but knowing humans are flawed, is it wrong to say a vote for Paul is a bad vote? Paul saw things pretty clearly and would be good vote in any other circumstance.
Of course elections don't give us such valiant choices, but I just hope for a dang conservative with some honest moral fiber I could latch upon. It is foolish to think humans are perfect of course, I just don't want to vote for a rotten egg RINO again. Dang, give me something to vote for, some character to latch upon above what we have thrust upon us. McCain, Romney and now Trump... Just how much pride in the GOP have people got that keeps them voting for these folks?
I just want to one day support a real conservative that doesn't embarrass us so bad that we lose a nation (and our soul) in the process. Winning with such a candidate (I could support) I think honestly would bring me to tears. I tire of people celebrating losing with winning when the winner embarrasses the nation (and more importantly the kingdom our freedoms hinged upon).
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The sad thing to me is realizing our nation is so corrupt in it's reasoning that a candidate that would make me proud is considered too principled to draw the electorate to vote for them. I have seen it in my home state and my state is considered right up there with most any state in conservative voters. I don't know that this nation (sad to say this around the 4th) has enough morals to vote in a decent candidate anymore, and it breaks my heart to be honest.
I am just a small voice, but as much as we value our small voices, I understand that probable 4 or 5 people here probable have me on ignore because they can't stand the thought I think as I do.
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It isn't about purity. Its a about a losing strategy. We will not make progress until people are willing to leave the plantation where the politicians are forced to earn our vote instead of just giving us the false choice of the lesser evil. Every election the sheep run in fear that it will be the end of the world if we "lose" so we have to accept a crap sandwich instead of actual progress based on fundamental principles of smaller government and fiscal restraint. And meanwhile the slide into oblivion continues.
This nightmare repeats every election.
Enough is enough. Just because some of us have reached this conclusion sooner than others doesn't make us cowards, dumb or all the other crap thrown at us. In fact it takes some courage to not run with the sheep.
^ This! Thank You.
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Oh, I'm not sending money--and I am sure I am not alone. Only to a particular candidate once in a great while. I'm not on the inside, like many pushed to the edge. I'm okay with that, but I will be heard.
My present Party affiliation? None, unless it is Constitution Party and I'm not completely sure about that.
Yeah. There is a better chance of an independent winning than a third party candidate.
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The sad thing to me is realizing our nation is so corrupt in it's reasoning that a candidate that would make me proud is considered too principled to draw the electorate to vote for them. I have seen it in my home state and my state is considered right up there with most any state in conservative voters. I don't know that this nation (sad to say this around the 4th) has enough morals to vote in a decent candidate anymore, and it breaks my heart to be honest.
I am just a small voice, but as much as we value our small voices, I understand that probable 4 or 5 people here probable have me on ignore because they can't stand the thought I think as I do.
It is sad and I agree. Don't worry about ignore. I bet they are bluffing anyway. And if they don't want to read your posts too bad, but I doubt there are any here who wouldn't.
I imagine the next few posts will be to tell me they have put me on ignore only. Like I care.
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It is sad and I agree. Don't worry about ignore. I bet they are bluffing anyway. And if they don't want to read your posts too bad, but I doubt there are any here who wouldn't.
I imagine the next few posts will be to tell me they have put me on ignore only. Like I care.
I have. Because that is my only option, like I care.
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Yeah. There is a better chance of an independent winning than a third party candidate.
Fred, I vote for candidates I feel I can support. If there aren't any, well, :shrug:
It is my vote, my stamp of approval. That is not lightly given.
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The Republican party isn't Republican anymore.
Yes, yes it is. The Republican Party has always been a center-right political party. This idea that the Republican Party is a conservative party is myth born of relatively conservative years under Ronald Reagan; but even he went soft on immigration, the national debt and served eight years as the head of government with only a passing glance to the pro-life issue, usually at election time.
For the many who insist on referring to partially conservative Republicans as "RINOs" -- please, I beg you to stop. Nothing so idiotic should be the source of so much discord.
@roamer_1
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Not gonna fix a damn thing. I'm out.
Remember to put your sippy cup in the sink before exiting.
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In the here and now there are only two viable parties competing for the power to control the legislative and executive agendas that will shape and define America’s present and future. Only two. Pick one. This isn’t rocket surgery.
:pop41:
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Oh, I'm not sending money--and I am sure I am not alone. Only to a particular candidate once in a great while. I'm not on the inside, like many pushed to the edge. I'm okay with that, but I will be heard.
My present Party affiliation? None, unless it is Constitution Party and I'm not completely sure about that.
About once a week I get a phone call from the RNC wanting to know why I have abandoned them. The first couple of times that happened I spent about half an hour talking to the guy and laying it out for him. Now I just hang up on him.
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The sad thing to me is realizing our nation is so corrupt in it's reasoning that a candidate that would make me proud is considered too principled to draw the electorate to vote for them. I have seen it in my home state and my state is considered right up there with most any state in conservative voters. I don't know that this nation (sad to say this around the 4th) has enough morals to vote in a decent candidate anymore, and it breaks my heart to be honest.
I am just a small voice, but as much as we value our small voices, I understand that probable 4 or 5 people here probable have me on ignore because they can't stand the thought I think as I do.
Not only is he considered too principled, the entire party apparatus is also unleashed against him.
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I haven't lost sight of the goal, nor my principles, but I'm afraid if we wait until we have a government composed of folks pure in ideals and behaviour enough to carry the torch, we're going to miss the Last Trumpet.
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...and it is going global.
We have to find a way to shut that down. For that, we're gonna need a bigger army.
Great post as usual @Smokin Joe , but I will disagree.
I would rather have a smaller army that knows what it is fighting for, and believes in those things so deeply that they are willing to die for it... In fact, to hell with an army. I'll take a few good men.
The best thing possible would be to burn that Big (circus) Tent down, and plow the ground with salt - It's time to start over. There ain't a single redeeming feature in the whole damn show. I would seriously rather throw all the bastards out than try to salvage what little there is left.
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Great post as usual @Smokin Joe , but I will disagree.
I would rather have a smaller army that knows what it is fighting for, and believes in those things so deeply that they are willing to die for it... In fact, to hell with an army. I'll take a few good men.
The best thing possible would be to burn that Big (circus) Tent down, and plow the ground with salt - It's time to start over. There ain't a single redeeming feature in the whole damn show. I would seriously rather throw all the bastards out than try to salvage what little there is left.
If we were not facing such an outrageously large mob of Marxists, yes, and in the war of words, I agree. But if it comes down to shooting, quantity has a quality all its own.
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Right. The decision has been made. I meant that as a general advisory to people reading this that have NO clue to the life we lead.
Our local LEO friend was telling my wife he has some fears of just being on patrol and being killed in a random act of violence. I mean assassinated.
She told him if he needed to a place to run to, with his wife and kids, to come here. He kinda loled. Like Bighead would defend me? Of course he would. He says but i've tased him. She said yeah but he doesn't care about that. He doesn't hold a grudge. He doesn't even consider it that way. He considers that a game.
More to the point. She asked him , if you get a call to come to come to my house, how many officers respond?
All of us.
She said exactly. If the police are afraid of him, then how do you think the bendejos down the street feel?
So the last place anyone would think to look for him is here.
It's funny that way Fred. I was down at the protest when it was here, walking through them misfits standing there with the cops... It was a big crowd, but I knew a ton of em... All kinds of camo and sh*tkickers, and a ton of gypsy leather.
One of them fellers was an old duffer sheriff deputy. He clapped me on the back and said he felt he oughta be slappin me in cuffs just for the memory. And shook my hand. Me and him go all the way back to the day. I been riding in his squad car quite a few times, but never in the front.
But he wasn't the least bit surprised to see me there. It was more or less expected that me and my kind would show up. No doubt you'd fit right in that crowd. :beer:
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The sad thing to me is realizing our nation is so corrupt in it's reasoning that a candidate that would make me proud is considered too principled to draw the electorate to vote for them. I have seen it in my home state and my state is considered right up there with most any state in conservative voters. I don't know that this nation (sad to say this around the 4th) has enough morals to vote in a decent candidate anymore, and it breaks my heart to be honest.
I am just a small voice, but as much as we value our small voices, I understand that probable 4 or 5 people here probable have me on ignore because they can't stand the thought I think as I do.
Not a worry for me @Sighlass ... This country still runs thick to Conservatives. I believe we need another of Limbaugh's 'See, I Told You So' moments. It ain't that they won't vote. The problem is there ain't nothing to vote *FOR*.
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Fred, I vote for candidates I feel I can support. If there aren't any, well, :shrug:
It is my vote, my stamp of approval. That is not lightly given.
There it is. :beer:
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In the here and now there are only two viable parties competing for the power to control the legislative and executive agendas that will shape and define America’s present and future. Only two. Pick one. This isn’t rocket surgery.
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Right. By what metric shall I choose? If the exercise is to choose the one that best fits my own thinking, and which would be best for the nation, my honest answer is 'neither one'.
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About once a week I get a phone call from the RNC wanting to know why I have abandoned them. The first couple of times that happened I spent about half an hour talking to the guy and laying it out for him. Now I just hang up on him.
Yeah, I officially quit em in 07... Still shook the money tree for a few candidates, but never a dime to the Republicans after 07... They're still calling.
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If we were not facing such an outrageously large mob of Marxists, yes, and in the war of words, I agree. But if it comes down to shooting, quantity has a quality all its own.
Have at it... I'll be with a select group of hillbillies out on the ridges. :seeya:
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Yeah, I officially quit em in 07... Still shook the money tree for a few candidates, but never a dime to the Republicans after 07... They're still calling.
The rule changes at the 2016 national convention did it for me. I'm done!
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Not a worry for me @Sighlass ... This country still runs thick to Conservatives. I believe we need another of Limbaugh's 'See, I Told You So' moments. It ain't that they won't vote. The problem is there ain't nothing to vote *FOR*.
There are more of us out here than the media would have us believe.
For every Conservative you see in the media, there are 100 or more who are not represented.
The bias you see works the other way with the Marxists, who ever have called themselves "the majority"--at least since the Bolsheviks, and likely are an even smaller minority than what we see.
It is as distorted as if you were seeing this in a funhouse mirror.
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Right. By what metric shall I choose? If the exercise is to choose the one that best fits my own thinking, and which would be best for the nation, my honest answer is 'neither one'.
You are supposed to pick the less sh*tty option, of course.
But 'less sh*tty' isn't what I want to track into my kitchen, clean 'em up or take your boots off.
It's no standard to run a country with, either.
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There are more of us out here than the media would have us believe.
For every Conservative you see in the media, there are 100 or more who are not represented.
The bias you see works the other way with the Marxists, who ever have called themselves "the majority"--at least since the Bolsheviks, and likely are an even smaller minority than what we see.
It is as distorted as if you were seeing this in a funhouse mirror.
That's right. The squeaky wheel gets all the grease... And we all know what the media figures for squeaking. But the ones that make the place go... They don't squeak much. And they're too damn busy to mess with political nonsense. But every now and then a feller stands up singing LIBERTY. They hear that guy, and they will come a'running.
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You are supposed to pick the less sh*tty option, of course.
But 'less sh*tty' isn't what I want to track into my kitchen, clean 'em up or take your boots off.
It's no standard to run a country with, either.
Funny how I recognize that now, more than when I had a woman. :whistle:
It's like that magic hamper. I never should have let her get that in the divorce.
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You see what it says under my avatar. And has for quite a while.
The day you have to decide to live free or die.
@bigheadfred
I kind of feel a little bit sorry for anyone so stupid they think there is a choice.
We are ALL going to die,but living free is not an option to people who were not natural-born slaves.
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Yes, yes it is. The Republican Party has always been a center-right political party. This idea that the Republican Party is a conservative party is myth born of relatively conservative years under Ronald Reagan; but even he went soft on immigration, the national debt and served eight years as the head of government with only a passing glance to the pro-life issue, usually at election time.
For the many who insist on referring to partially conservative Republicans as "RINOs" -- please, I beg you to stop. Nothing so idiotic should be the source of so much discord.
@roamer_1
Right. You heard it here. Mere Republicans. Moderate right. Not Conservative at all.
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Commercials advertising HIV drugs have more faggotry in a 30 second spot than I'd ordinarily watch in a month, and that by accident, and the only reason to spam the viewing public with all that is desensitization. I am sure the folks who acquire HIV have their own network to distribute that information, if not a few of them keeping track of the latest treatments, so what's the market on prime time?
What they are marketing isn't the drug it's the behaviour.
@Smokin Joe
That had never even occurred to me,but when I read it,the light of truth was so bright it was almost blinding.
Thank you for noticing and publishing it.
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I've posted this here before but I can see it's time to do it again.
“No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. “
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4 1775
“Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction. A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue.â€
John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men, 1776
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Yes, yes it is. The Republican Party has always been a center-right political party. This idea that the Republican Party is a conservative party is myth born of relatively conservative years under Ronald Reagan; but even he went soft on immigration,
@Right_in_Virginia
No,he didn't. He RELUCTANTLY agreed to sign a Dim immigration bill because he had been a Dim for decades,and knew and was friends with the people who told him if he would sign that bill,they would never again push such a bill,and would support him in cutting future immigration numbers.
They obviously lied,but he learned a lesson from that.
the national debt and served eight years as the head of government with only a passing glance to the pro-life issue, usually at election time.
Abortion is a CIVIL RIGHTS issue,NOT a biblical issue. Your freaking church is NOT in charge of this nation.
PLEASE feel free to promote your dogma if you think that is the thing to do,but the day ANY religion takes over control of our nation is the same day we return to the Middle Ages and once again become slaves/serfs instead of a free people.
I have no problem at all with you becoming a slave if that is what you want,but I AM going to stand up and fight when you demand the rest of us join you.
@roamer_1
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Right. You heard it here. Mere Republicans. Moderate right. Not Conservative at all.
The problem you keep tripping over is the "conservative" you seek lives only in the recesses of your imagination. I'll suggest it again: Walk away from the damn horse and toward fellow human beings, while you can still tell the difference.
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The problem you keep tripping over is the "conservative" you seek lives only in the recesses of your imagination.
Funny, as I know plenty that agree with me.
I'll suggest it again: Walk away from the damn horse and toward fellow human beings, while you can still tell the difference.
Thanks, but horses are better company.
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@roamer_1
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The ONLY candidate you would support 100 percent would be you,and since you would never win,you live to throw rocks at the people who are running.
I wouldn’t have framed it quite that way but, yes, a presidential election is not about ‘me,’ but about ‘us,’ more importantly the future of us as a free Republic. Does your vote move us closer to or further from a more perfect union?
In the meantime we are beckoned to teach our children well so that they will make a future choice that moves us closer still to a more perfect union.
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I wouldn’t have framed it quite that way but, yes, a presidential election is not about ‘me,’ but about ‘us,’ more importantly the future of us as a free Republic. Does your vote move us closer to or further from a more perfect union?
As I had opined earlier... Faced with the two, neither. No doubt the Constitution Party will meet your criteria (and mine)
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Wow...take half a day off and the stupid gets totally out of hand.
Let's lay out what roamer and the purity crew really want; they want a crushing defeat for the GOP in this coming election/they want that defeat to "open the eyes of conservatives" who will then rally to a wildly right wing social conservative agenda/or, alternately, the Left takes control and so guts the Republic economically and socially that some sort of popular conservative uprising occurs which inspires the populace to restore what he sees as originalist principles. I think as well, everyone gets a unicorn and 3 magic wishes.
Essentially, he wants a conservative victory fantasy outcome to emerge from a broad and deep Left wing political victory in 2020...under the delusion that Marxists, once in power, will step aside in the face of a rising tide of "true conservatives". The purists believe that a crushing defeat for Trump will push more centrist conservatives to re-adopt a hard line social conservative position and become, essentially, NT's themselves. Well...there's so many problems with that idiotic fantasy that its hard to know where to begin critiquing it, so let's just say its Alice in Wonderland stupid.
Marxists once in full power, will never surrender that power without bloodshed...and if they were, they damage they would have already done to the nation would leave us prostrate at the feet of the Chinese and every other world power. Our economy would be Weimar levels, our social structure would have already been utterly annihilated...and the nation ripe for a totalitarian style of "conservative" leader who emulate a Hitler far more than a George Washington. This dangerous fantasy, grounded in a deep ignorance of human nature and political history, gives NT types something to cling to...rather than having them focus on the reality of our current situation.
Maybe 10% of the population fit roamer's concept of what a "true conservative" should be...everyone else is unfit to be a part of "his" conservative movement. So once the Marxists DO take over...as roamer wants...there will be no uprising to bring them down. A fractured right will not unite because elements like roamer have defined the right so narrowly that it excludes any kind of effective political movement...precluding the kind of coalition that is necessary to achieve an ideological majority...with the power to retake government against such an entrenched entity.
This NT-roamer fantasy dooms us all to perpetual Marxist rule...disguised as "progressivism" of course...and ensures the ostracization and eventual elimination of conservative thought in our lifetimes. I weep for my children, because this "purity" movement on the Right is bringing them nothing less than a world of Marxist absolutism and the loss of freedom of thought. It really will be the end of the Republic...though, much as it did in Ancient Rome...the facade of Republicanism will remain in place as a shadow of that which has been lost forever.
All of that will occur, because these NT's are too pure to coalesce with other conservatives to oppose the Marxism that is rising to crush us all. Disagreements, ideologically, between Republicans and conservatives are miniscule in comparison to the beast that is at our very door. As I said...what we're seeing out of NT's now is just plain egotistical, stubborn stupidity. When people ask why the Republic fell, don't blame the Marxists...that's like blaming the sun for shining...blame the NT's who were too blind to coalesce and resist.
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Wow...take half a day off and the stupid gets totally out of hand.
Let's lay out what roamer and the purity crew really want; they want a crushing defeat for the GOP in this coming election/they want that defeat to "open the eyes of conservatives" who will then rally to a wildly right wing social conservative agenda/or, alternately, the Left takes control and so guts the Republic economically and socially that some sort of popular conservative uprising occurs which inspires the populace to restore what he sees as originalist principles. I think as well, everyone gets a unicorn and 3 magic wishes.
Essentially, he wants a conservative victory fantasy outcome to emerge from a broad and deep Left wing political victory in 2020...under the delusion that Marxists, once in power, will step aside in the face of a rising tide of "true conservatives". The purists believe that a crushing defeat for Trump will push more centrist conservatives to re-adopt a hard line social conservative position and become, essentially, NT's themselves. Well...there's so many problems with that idiotic fantasy that its hard to know where to begin critiquing it, so let's just say its Alice in Wonderland stupid.
Marxists once in full power, will never surrender that power without bloodshed...and if they were, they damage they would have already done to the nation would leave us prostrate at the feet of the Chinese and every other world power. Our economy would be Weimar levels, our social structure would have already been utterly annihilated...and the nation ripe for a totalitarian style of "conservative" leader who emulate a Hitler far more than a George Washington. This dangerous fantasy, grounded in a deep ignorance of human nature and political history, gives NT types something to cling to...rather than having them focus on the reality of our current situation.
Maybe 10% of the population fit roamer's concept of what a "true conservative" should be...everyone else is unfit to be a part of "his" conservative movement. So once the Marxists DO take over...as roamer wants...there will be no uprising to bring them down. A fractured right will not unite because elements like roamer have defined the right so narrowly that it excludes any kind of effective political movement...precluding the kind of coalition that is necessary to achieve an ideological majority...with the power to retake government against such an entrenched entity.
This NT-roamer fantasy dooms us all to perpetual Marxist rule...disguised as "progressivism" of course...and ensures the ostracization and eventual elimination of conservative thought in our lifetimes. I weep for my children, because this "purity" movement on the Right is bringing them nothing less than a world of Marxist absolutism and the loss of freedom of thought. It really will be the end of the Republic...though, much as it did in Ancient Rome...the facade of Republicanism will remain in place as a shadow of that which has been lost forever.
Your mind reading capabilities leave much to be desired.
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Your mind reading capabilities leave much to be desired.
True. Fortunately, I have no need for such a skill. Simply reading what you've written over the past few years is more than sufficient.
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True. Fortunately, I have no need for such a skill. Simply reading what you've written over the past few years is more than sufficient.
Your interpretive skills need work too.
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Wow...take half a day off and the stupid gets totally out of hand.
Let's lay out what roamer and the purity crew really want; they want a crushing defeat for the GOP in this coming election/they want that defeat to "open the eyes of conservatives" who will then rally to a wildly right wing social conservative agenda/or, alternately, the Left takes control and so guts the Republic economically and socially that some sort of popular conservative uprising occurs which inspires the populace to restore what he sees as originalist principles. I think as well, everyone gets a unicorn and 3 magic wishes.
Essentially, he wants a conservative victory fantasy outcome to emerge from a broad and deep Left wing political victory in 2020...under the delusion that Marxists, once in power, will step aside in the face of a rising tide of "true conservatives". The purists believe that a crushing defeat for Trump will push more centrist conservatives to re-adopt a hard line social conservative position and become, essentially, NT's themselves. Well...there's so many problems with that idiotic fantasy that its hard to know where to begin critiquing it, so let's just say its Alice in Wonderland stupid.
Marxists once in full power, will never surrender that power without bloodshed...and if they were, they damage they would have already done to the nation would leave us prostrate at the feet of the Chinese and every other world power. Our economy would be Weimar levels, our social structure would have already been utterly annihilated...and the nation ripe for a totalitarian style of "conservative" leader who emulate a Hitler far more than a George Washington. This dangerous fantasy, grounded in a deep ignorance of human nature and political history, gives NT types something to cling to...rather than having them focus on the reality of our current situation.
Maybe 10% of the population fit roamer's concept of what a "true conservative" should be...everyone else is unfit to be a part of "his" conservative movement. So once the Marxists DO take over...as roamer wants...there will be no uprising to bring them down. A fractured right will not unite because elements like roamer have defined the right so narrowly that it excludes any kind of effective political movement with the power to retake government against such an entrenched entity.
This NT-roamer fantasy dooms us all to perpetual Marxist rule...disguised as "progressivism" of course...and ensures the ostracization and eventual elimination of conservative thought in our lifetimes. I weep for my children, because this "purity" movement on the Right is bring them a world of Marxism and the loss of freedom of thought. It really will be the end of the Republic...though, much as it did in Ancient Rome...the facade of Republicanism will remain in place as a shadow of that which has been lost forever.
No, we want the sheep to leave the plantation and make the politicians earn our vote instead of voting in fear of what the other side will bring.
All you have is fear. Your head is on fire and you are screaming that others join you.
The party is long dead. If it is going to change it will have to be forced to change and the ONLY way to do that is stop yielding to the fear and stop letting them take your vote for granted no matter what they do. Your form of pragmatism has only lead to what Washington D.C. has become today. All your hopes have been funneled down to one man. And you wonder why we are failing spectacularly as things come crashing down around you...
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Trumpers made it painfully obvious at the GOP Convention in 16 that our voices do not matter, you literally turned off our microphones. I have no illusions that it will be us who will be blamed when you can't pull that moron across the finish line in 2020, although we continually warned you he was a one trick pony, if that.
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Your mind reading capabilities leave much to be desired.
@Mesaclone Outstanding, sir!!
@roamer_1
What's the matter, 'boy'?
Where's the monotonous, fractured reply where you compulsively need to address every sentence...no matter how many paragraphs and detailed opinion/facts presented?
Cat got your tongue?
Such a boor. Had you pegged the day you washed up on our front porch. Before you even dried off.
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Trumpers made it painfully obvious at the GOP Convention in 16 that our voices do not matter, you literally turned off our microphones. I have no illusions that it will be us who will be blamed when you can't pull that moron across the finish line in 2020, although we continually warned you he was a one trick pony, if that.
That "moron" will make Reagan's 84 reelection seem like Amateur Hour.
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@Mesaclone Outstanding, sir!!
@roamer_1
What's the matter, 'boy'?
Where's the monotonous, fractured reply where you compulsively need to address every sentence...no matter how many paragraphs and detailed opinion/facts presented?
Cat got your tongue?
Such a boor. Had you pegged the day you washed up on our front porch. Before you even dried off.
Nope. It's just bullshit.
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That "moron" will make Reagan's 84 reelection seem like Amateur Hour.
I wish I could share in your optimism, @DCPatriot
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I wish I could share in your optimism, @DCPatriot
No you don't. Stop lying. :laugh:
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No, we want the sheep to leave the plantation and make the politicians earn our vote instead of voting in fear of what the other side will bring.Here is why you fail. We are not sheep, we are wolves defending our Republic...and every vote we make has to be earned. We voted for Trump because he fights back, and we didn't vote for McCain and Romney because they were complicit with the Progressives.
All you have is fear. Your head is on fire and you are screaming that others join you. Yes, we should fear what the other side has to bring...the end of the Republic and the rise of Marxism are justifiably terrifying to any free people. Fear is not weaknesses, it is the clarion call that draws brave men and women to resistance.
The party is long dead. If so, we are doomed as there is no other viable tool for resisting the Democratic party and the Left. If it is going to change it will have to be forced to change and the ONLY way to do that is stop yielding to the fear and stop letting them take your vote for granted no matter what they do. This is just you stating your justification for the fantasy scenario I laid out in my last post...its foolish and absurd to think positive change can come from crushing defeat. Your form of pragmatism has only lead to what Washington D.C. has become today. Yes, pragmatism has led this nation to be the strongest and most free scion of liberty the world has ever seen...for my part, I'd like to use pragmatism to ensure that continues. All your hopes have been funneled down to one man. My hopes are funneled to the millions who support that one man and the idea of resistance to Progressivism for which he stands...he fights and I fight with him, and I will fight alongside whoever succeeds him in that fight. This fight is in no way about one man, it is about saving the Republic from Marxism. And you wonder why we are failing spectacularly as things come crashing down around you...Actually, I know precisely why its falling and I laid that out in my answer to roamer.
Reading is like listening...its not enough to just say the words in your head. You have to grasp their meaning, then you can refute them...you seem to have skipped the "grasp" step.
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No you don't. Stop lying. :laugh:
I have stated numerous times on this very Forum that I will vote for that 'moron' if it appears he screwed it up so bad that even TEXAS (38 EV) is in play, otherwise I'll sit it out and snark from the sidelines which I always do, anyway. @DCPatriot
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Trumpers made it painfully obvious at the GOP Convention in 16 that our voices do not matter, you literally turned off our microphones. I have no illusions that it will be us who will be blamed when you can't pull that moron across the finish line in 2020, although we continually warned you he was a one trick pony, if that.
Arrogance and butthurt are a dangerous combo.
"we continually warned you" (arrogance)....."you turned off our microphones" (butthurt)
In every convention, one side warns the other as to why THEIR candidate should not defeat another...and at the end we all coalesce to support the guy who wins the nomination. As the great man Ted Cruz did, we set aside our petty personal hurts and disappointment...and have the wisdom to see that only a coalition of conservatives/Republicans can hope to defeat the Progressives. We have the maturity to set aside butthurt and arrogance because what matters most...even more than genuine disagreements on the Right...is that we defeat the Marxists at our door. Well...apparently...not everyone has the wisdom and maturity to do this...and not doing so can easily bring defeat. So damn right you should get the blame for defeat IF you don't vote for the President. You've stated that you will...if necessary in your state...and for that I will give you a kudo. Many NT's, lack that level of maturity.
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Reading is like listening...its not enough to just say the words in your head. You have to grasp their meaning, then you can refute them...you seem to have skipped the "grasp" step.
Every election is the same. All you offer is fear. And you can't figure out why things keep getting worse year after year.
And apparently you think all that stands between Marxism/end of the world is Trump. How Effing foolish is that? You've put yourself in a position that only Trump can save you. Well you won't be saved if that's your plan. Wake up and smell reality.
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I have stated numerous times on this very Forum that I will vote for that 'moron' if it appears he screwed it up so bad that even TEXAS (38 EV) is in play, otherwise I'll sit it out and snark from the sidelines which I always do, anyway. @DCPatriot
Discussing "optimism" has nothing to do with your sadly, potential "vote", my friend! :laugh:
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Arrogance and butthurt are a dangerous combo.
"we continually warned you" (arrogance)....."you turned off our microphones" (butthurt)
In every convention, one side warns the other as to why THEIR candidate should not defeat another...and at the end we all coalesce to support the guy who wins the nomination. As the great man Ted Cruz did, we set aside our petty personal hurts and disappointment...and have the wisdom to see that only a coalition of conservatives/Republicans can hope to defeat the Progressives. We have the maturity to set aside butthurt and arrogance because what matters is most...even more than genuine disagreements on the Right...is that we defeat the Marxists at our door. Well...apparently...not everyone has the wisdom and maturity to do this...and not doing so can easily bring defeat. So damn right you should get the blame for defeat.
Go look in the mirror.
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Every election is the same. All you offer is fear. And you can't figure out why things keep getting worse year after year.
And apparently you think all that stands between Marxism/end of the world is Trump. How Effing foolish is that? You've put yourself in a position that only Trump can save you. Well you won't be saved if that's your plan. Wake up and smell reality.
The only one that can save in THIS election IS Trump. There is no one else running for president...so wake up. In 2024, we'll have a new candidate...and damned if I won't support them to as long as they are a fighter. So, you see, its not about Trump at all...its about finding a leader who fights back and carries the banner of conservatism...and right now NOBODY does that better and in more devoted fashion than the President. But here's where your blind...you think we follow Trump. We don't. Trump follows us...he embodies and carries out the kind of fight WE demand of him...and he's smart enough to know that. You, apparently, are not.
Smell that reality.
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Go look in the mirror.
I am. And I've had plenty of butthurt and arrogance when my candidate was defeated...and when that's happened in a primary I have the maturity to go with the candidate my fellow conservatives have nominated. Its a bitter pill, no doubt. It takes maturity and a little courage. Give it a try sometime.
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The only one that can save in THIS election IS Trump. There is no one else running for president...so wake up. In 2024, we'll have a new candidate...and damned if I won't support them to as long as they are a fighter. So, you see, its not about Trump at all...its about finding a leader who fights back and carries the banner of conservatism...and right now NOBODY does that better and in more devoted fashion than the President. But here's where your blind...you think we follow Trump. We don't. Trump follows us...he embodies and carries out the kind of fight WE demand of him...and he's smart enough to know that. You, apparently, are not.
Smell that reality.
Reading you on this thread is akin to watching "Home Run Derby" finals. :beer:
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No, we want the sheep to leave the plantation and make the politicians earn our vote instead of voting in fear of what the other side will bring.
All you have is fear. Your head is on fire and you are screaming that others join you.
The party is long dead. If it is going to change it will have to be forced to change and the ONLY way to do that is stop yielding to the fear and stop letting them take your vote for granted no matter what they do. Your form of pragmatism has only lead to what Washington D.C. has become today. All your hopes have been funneled down to one man. And you wonder why we are failing spectacularly as things come crashing down around you...
That's right. But what that translates into in real-time is a null result. Neither side qualifies according to the criteria, so I really don't give a crap who wins. Both are driving America into the ground like a tent peg. Both are hyping fear of the other as the only real agenda. It's a sh*t-show all the way around. So why should I give my blood-won endorsement to either of em?
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Reading you on this thread is akin to watching "Home Run Derby" finals. :beer:
Thx @DCPatriot , its pretty easy to get passionate and fired up over this stuff. This is the first time in my life I've genuinely felt that our Republic is teetering on a knife's edge...all that we love and believe in about this country can be lost. I have 3 daughters, and as DB keeps accusing me...I'm scared shitless for them. Progressives and their foolishness I understand. But Conservatives who can't seem to grasp this situation make me crazy...and worse...the ones who do grasp it but are unwilling to fight against it, and who often become useful idiots for the other side, are complicit in the loss of our freedom.
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I'm voting for Trump this time around for one reason only. IMHO he has EARNED it!
I'm voting FOR him not against Biden (or whomever the Dems bring in at the last moment).
PS: In both of the other federal elections I get to vote in I will be voting AGAINST Kevin Brady and John Cornyn because they have genuinely earned that.
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Thx @DCPatriot , its pretty easy to get passionate and fired up over this stuff. This is the first time in my life I've genuinely felt that our Republic is teetering on a knife's edge...all that we love and believe in about this country can be lost. I have 3 daughters, and as DB keeps accusing me...I'm scared shitless for them. Progressives and their foolishness I understand. But Conservatives who can't seem to grasp this situation make me crazy...and worse...the ones who do grasp it but are unwilling to fight against it, and who often become useful idiots for the other side, are complicit in the loss of our freedom.
Your progressivism is no different than theirs.
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The only one that can save in THIS election IS Trump. There is no one else running for president...so wake up. In 2024, we'll have a new candidate...and damned if I won't support them to as long as they are a fighter. So, you see, its not about Trump at all...its about finding a leader who fights back and carries the banner of conservatism...and right now NOBODY does that better and in more devoted fashion than the President. But here's where your blind...you think we follow Trump. We don't. Trump follows us...he embodies and carries out the kind of fight WE demand of him...and he's smart enough to know that. You, apparently, are not.
Smell that reality.
You said that 4 years ago.
And look where we are today.
All you and your party does is cede ground year after year. That isn't winning.
You are a slave to your fear.
Until the party is forced to reform and conform to the constitution the ground ceding will continue.
Losing is losing no matter what perfume you put on it.
To continue doing what has been failing for decades is a fool's errand.
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You said that 4 years ago.
And look where we are today.
All you and your party does is cede ground year after year. That isn't winning.
You are a slave to your fear.
Until the party is forced to reform and conform to the constitution the ground ceding will continue.
Losing is losing no matter what perfume you put on it.
To continue doing what has been failing for decades is a fool's errand.
They are not ceding ground. They are complicit. They just think they can do it better.
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That's right. But what that translates into in real-time is a null result. Neither side qualifies according to the criteria, so I really don't give a crap who wins. Purity test...as usual.Both are driving America into the ground like a tent peg. Idiotic moral equivalency argument...akin to comparing a spring breeze to a level 5 hurricane. Both are hyping fear of the other as the only real agenda. Another childish attempt an idiotic moral equivalency argument.It's a sh*t-show all the way around. So why should I give my blood-won endorsement to either of em?The answer would be, because you have the wisdom and maturity to discern the MOUNTAINS of difference between the policies of the Trump Administration and the Marxism of a coming Biden one....but as usual, you lack the ability to discern the differences in political ideologies...there is only pure and impure to you...and all that is not you is impure.
That's a very high horse you ride.
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Enjoy your Worker's party.
None for me, thanks.
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Enjoy your Worker's party.
None for me, thanks.
Two points:
One. Its the "workers party" that I and my President and 10's of millions of conservatives are fighting...whilst you sit on your hands and DO NOTHING.
Two. AS I noted in the long post upthread...I know just what it is you want and support. None for me on that either, thanks.
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Holy crappola.... still at it, I see.
Nah. Not in the mood today.
Have fun.
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Two points:
One. Its the "workers party" that I and my President and 10's of millions of conservatives are fighting...whilst you sit on your hands and DO NOTHING.
Not helping you destroy the nation is not the same thing as 'doing nothing'.
Two. AS I noted in the long post upthread...I know just what it is you want and support. None for me on that either, thanks.
Right. Suits me fine.
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Your progressivism is no different than theirs.
Seriously, you need to actually pick up a book or two and do some reading. You really do not understand anything about political ideology...you just don't. Its hard to argue policy and ideology with someone like yourself, who doesn't really know what they are. For example, I'm not progressive on a single point ideological issue...though I'll happily admit to Libertarian leanings on a few issues...and yet the best you can do is to say "you're a progressive".
Only someone dishonest...or utterly ill informed...could make such a claim. Which are you?
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Holy crappola.... still at it, I see.
Nah. Not in the mood today.
Have fun.
I missed it last night @XenaLee so I'm playing catch up.
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Seriously, you need to actually pick up a book or two and do some reading. You really do not understand anything about political ideology...you just don't. Its hard to argue policy and ideology with someone like yourself, who doesn't really know what they are. For example, I'm not progressive on a single point ideological issue...and yet the best you can do is to say "you're a progressive".
Only someone dishonest...or utterly ill informed...could make such a claim. Which are you?
It isn't dishonest or ill informed... I just know a Hegelian Dialectic when I see it.
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It isn't dishonest or ill informed... I just know a Hegelian Dialectic when I see it.
Then why don't you apply it when reaching conclusions? You seem to lose the last step of using rationalism to attain a coherent synthesis of thought....which of course, can be the result of dishonesty or ignorance. So again, I'd ask, which applies?
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Then why don't you apply it when reaching conclusions? You seem to lose the last step of using rationalism to attain a coherent synthesis of thought....which of course, can be the result of dishonesty or ignorance. So again, I'd ask, which applies?
I'll take "dishonesty" for $1,000, Alex!
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They are not ceding ground. They are complicit. They just think they can do it better.
The voters are ceding ground taking the crumbs they can get while the party continues growing big government.
I said a long time ago that Trump is just a different flavor of big government. His big government priorities are just different - in some places - than the opposition's.
And if people don't believe that just look at Obamacare. It was Trump demanding coverage of preexisting conditions which negates the very definition of insurance. It is just another government mandated entitlement. It was also Trump that said he was going to provide insurance to the 25% who couldn't afford it and that government was going to pay for it. Government doesn't pay for anything.
Trump's administration has signed off on as much deficit spending in four years as Obama did in two terms.
And that's "winning"...
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Then why don't you apply it when reaching conclusions? You seem to lose the last step of using rationalism to attain a coherent synthesis of thought....which of course, can be the result of dishonesty or ignorance. So again, I'd ask, which applies?
Which side of the Hegelian Dialectic to support? Why neither, of course. There's nothing there but froth and chaos.
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The voters are ceding ground taking the crumbs they can get while the party continues growing big government.
I said a long time ago that Trump is just a different flavor of big government. His big government priorities are just different - in some places - than the opposition's.
And if people don't believe that just look at Obamacare. It was Trump demanding coverage of preexisting conditions which negates the very definition of insurance. It is just another government mandated entitlement. It was also Trump that said he was going to provide insurance to the 25% who couldn't afford it and that government was going to pay for it. Government doesn't pay for anything.
Trump's administration has signed off on as much deficit spending in four years as Obama did in two terms.
And that's "winning"...
And that, in the end, is the proof in the pudding. No matter what is being said, no matter how much whining and crying and throwing dirt in the air, the beast keeps getting fed. That's the tell.
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Then why don't you apply it when reaching conclusions? You seem to lose the last step of using rationalism to attain a coherent synthesis of thought....which of course, can be the result of dishonesty or ignorance. So again, I'd ask, which applies?
Funny that you are telling people that work in highly technical fields how to successfully apply logic.
And your conclusion is either they are lying or stupid because they don't subscribe to your rationalizations.
The irony is a bit much.
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roamer_1 is not the topic of this thread. Nor are other TBR members. Stop the personal ####!
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