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Heart Disease Risk Soars 13,200% Among Vaccinated, CDC Confirms
Frank BergmanJune 15, 2023 - 12:57 pm6 Comments
A bombshell study from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has confirmed that the risk of autoimmune heart disease is 13,200% higher in people who are vaccinated for Covid.
The study found that the risk of myocarditis following mRNA Covid vaccination is around 133x greater than the background risk in the population.
The study was conducted by the CDC, FDA, and researchers from several top U.S. universities and hospitals.
Researchers examined the effects of vaccination with products manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.
https://slaynews.com/news/heart-disease-risk-soars-13200-among-vaccinated-cdc-confirms/
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Pro basketball player Óscar Cabrera was diagnosed with myocarditis in 2021 after collapsing during a game. Cabrera said the heart condition was a result of the COVID jab, which he was required to get for work. He died of a heart attack this week at 28.
Outkick (https://www.outkick.com/professional-basketball-player-dies-of-heart-attack-previously-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-myocarditis/)
Professional Basketball Player Dies Of Heart Attack, Previously Blamed COVID Vaccine For Myocarditis
by Amber Harding
June 24, 2023
Basketball player Óscar Cabrera Adames died Thursday of a heart attack while undergoing a stress test at a health center in Santo Domingo. He was just 28 years old. ...
Cabrera suffered from myocarditis, a disease that can reduce the heart’s ability to pump blood.
Following his death, social media posts surfaced where Cabrera claimed the heart condition came from two doses of the COVID vaccine — which he was required to get for work. ...I got a damn Myocarditis from taking a f-cking vaccine. (I got 2 doses of Pfizer) And I knew it! Many people warned me. But guess what? It was compulsory or I couldn’t work. I am an international professional athlete and I am playing in Spain. I have no health problem, nothing, not hereditary, no asthma, NOTHING! I suddenly collapsed to the ground in the middle of a match and almost died. I’m still recovering and I’ve had 11 different cardiology tests done and guess? They find nothing. I have no cholesterol, no fat, nothing! 7% body fat 93% muscle. When they give me the diagnosis, they tell me that I won’t be able to play for at least 5 months until my heart goes down again and they can’t give me that medicine.
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https://twitter.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1675221513862103041
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Aneurysms have been around almost as long as humans have. The Vaccine, ummm, not quite so long. However much "Joesthetics" wanted to believe his aneurysm was caused by The Vaccine, aneurysms very often linger undetected for many years or decades. IOW, he probably had his most of his lifetime, but simply did not know it.
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Aneurysms have been around almost as long as humans have. The Vaccine, ummm, not quite so long. However much "Joesthetics" wanted to believe his aneurysm was caused by The Vaccine, aneurysms usually linger undetected for many years or decades. IOW, he probably had his most of his lifetime, but simply did not know it.
It's not just aneurysms, it is heart disease that is rising in general SINCE the vaccines. Those stats can't be covered up by simply assuming that they were predestined for heart disease anyways @PeteS in CA
IIRC myocarditis has been detected in teenagers or those in their twenties after receiving the vaccines, and in particular, males.
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Many people will do anything to rationalize their actions even in the face of overwhelming evidence that what they did was a mistake.
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Heart disease diagnoses are up after a year or two of doctors' offices and hospitals being partially closed courtesy of Covid? Yet The Vaccine has to be the cause? :silly: In real life, if The Vaccine is so deadly:
Why are none of my immediate family and myself not experiencing health problems from blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why is my company not experiencing elevated employee absences from employees' blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why is my church not experiencing reduced attendance from members' blood clots or "harmed" immune systems? Why, instead, has my church had to add a service to the number of services it had pre-Covid?
Why are running event organizers - companies and schools/charities - back to doing the number of events with similar participation (numbers of runners and volunteers) they did in 2019? How is that possible if runners and volunteers suffer from blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why have my morning and evening commutes reverted to what was normal in 2019, pre-Covid?
Why are malls such as Valley Fair, Santana Row, and Oakridge - malls not affected (yet?) by SF-style shoplifting and bum-violence - as busy as they were pre-Covid?
Why are restaurants here in Silicon Valley as busy as they were pre-Covid, albeit with some shift towards take-out and delivery services?
Why isn't the hospital across the freeway from my home flooded with Vaccine Injury cases?
Why isn't the home-care hospice 5 minutes' drive from my home inundated with people dying of Vaccine Injury?
Why isn't the cemetery 10 minutes' drive from my home experiencing a constant stream of funerals for people who died of Vaccine Injury?
The reason is very simple, and Clara Peller went home. There's no beef in this anti-Covid-vax claim. It's just ghouls who troll for obituaries with no unpretzellatable cause of death given and play to what some people want to believe is true.
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Heart disease diagnoses are up after a year or two of doctors' offices and hospitals being partially closed courtesy of Covid? Yet The Vaccine has to be the cause? :silly: In real life, if The Vaccine is so deadly:
Why are none of my immediate family and myself not experiencing health problems from blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why is my company not experiencing elevated employee absences from employees' blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why is my church not experiencing reduced attendance from members' blood clots or "harmed" immune systems? Why, instead, has my church had to add a service to the number of services it had pre-Covid?
Why are running event organizers - companies and schools/charities - back to doing the number of events with similar participation (numbers of runners and volunteers) they did in 2019? How is that possible if runners and volunteers suffer from blood clots or "harmed" immune systems?
Why have my morning and evening commutes reverted to what was normal in 2019, pre-Covid?
Why are malls such as Valley Fair, Santana Row, and Oakridge - malls not affected (yet?) by SF-style shoplifting and bum-violence - as busy as they were pre-Covid?
Why are restaurants here in Silicon Valley as busy as they were pre-Covid, albeit with some shift towards take-out and delivery services?
Why isn't the hospital across the freeway from my home flooded with Vaccine Injury cases?
Why isn't the home-care hospice 5 minutes' drive from my home inundated with people dying of Vaccine Injury?
Why isn't the cemetery 10 minutes' drive from my home experiencing a constant stream of funerals for people who died of Vaccine Injury?
The reason is very simple, and Clara Peller went home. There's no beef in this anti-Covid-vax claim. It's just ghouls who troll for obituaries with no unpretzellatable cause of death given and play to what some people want to believe is true.
I am glad you and yours are having no problems.
Some can eat seafood and go home with a full belly, others visit the ER or morgue, from anaphylactic shock.
Something that does not seem to be considered while people piss back and forth over reactions to vaccines or the absence thereof: Not all lots were the same.
Some lots were found to be contaminated: FDA Finds 60 Million COVID Vaccine Doses Were Potentially Contaminated: Reporthttps://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/ (https://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/)
and 100 Million Vaccine Doses Held Up Over Contamination Concerns, Firm Revealshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html)
It turns out that most adverse reactions are from some of the lots, other lots of the shots were relatively harmless with only one or two (if any) adverse reactions.
Video: https://rumble.com/vpzruv-patterns-in-harmful-toxic-covid-vaccines-moderna-pfizer-johnson.html (https://rumble.com/vpzruv-patterns-in-harmful-toxic-covid-vaccines-moderna-pfizer-johnson.html) PDFhttps://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf (https://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf)
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dPKwYjtcOo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dPKwYjtcOo)
Some 1 in 200 lots had far more adverse reactions, if this information is correct.
Just because a meteorite hasn't landed in your yard, does not mean meteorites do not exist.
Perhaps, rather than denigrating every one who brings up this issue, you should thank Almighty God that the lots in your area were at worst benign.
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This is the same CDC who said we all had to get the shot to be "safe". "Trust us" they said and now they're saying "well...maybe not so much."?
Funny how those bureaucratic hacks get away with swinging their pendulums, but the injured and dead not so much.
A pox on all their houses...
For the record, I refused the shot. I figured 20 years as a human guinea pig for Uncle was about all I was gonna take.
Still have a permanent "souvenir" in my right buttock from a GG shot.
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I am glad you and yours are having no problems.
Some can eat seafood and go home with a full belly, others visit the ER or morgue, from anaphylactic shock.
Something that does not seem to be considered while people piss back and forth over reactions to vaccines or the absence thereof: Not all lots were the same.
Some lots were found to be contaminated: FDA Finds 60 Million COVID Vaccine Doses Were Potentially Contaminated: Reporthttps://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/ (https://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/)
and 100 Million Vaccine Doses Held Up Over Contamination Concerns, Firm Revealshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html)
It turns out that most adverse reactions are from some of the lots, other lots of the shots were relatively harmless with only one or two (if any) adverse reactions.
Video: https://rumble.com/vpzruv-patterns-in-harmful-toxic-covid-vaccines-moderna-pfizer-johnson.html (https://rumble.com/vpzruv-patterns-in-harmful-toxic-covid-vaccines-moderna-pfizer-johnson.html) PDFhttps://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf (https://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf)
Some 1 in 200 lots had far more adverse reactions, if this information is correct.
Just because a meteorite hasn't landed in your yard, does not mean meteorites do not exist.
Perhaps, rather than denigrating every one who brings up this issue, you should thank Almighty God that the lots in your area were at worst benign.
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This is the same CDC who said we all had to get the shot to be "safe". "Trust us" they said and now they're saying "well...maybe not so much."?
Funny how those bureaucratic hacks get away with swinging their pendulums, but the injured and dead not so much.
A pox on all their houses...
For the record, I refused the shot. I figured 20 years as a human guinea pig for Uncle was about all I was gonna take.
Still have a permanent "souvenir" in my right buttock from a GG shot.
I also refused even though I would be considered high risk. I could not figure out the logic of taking an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine for a disease with extremely high recover rates and could find no instance where that kind of thing had been forced on people ever before.
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I also refused even though I would be considered high risk. I could not figure out the logic of taking an EXPERIMENTAL vaccine for a disease with extremely high recover rates and could find no instance where that kind of thing had been forced on people ever before.
And those were similar circumstances and thoughts to mine as well.
I watched in amazement as people surrendered all vestiges of reason and meekly submitted to "authority" due to the power of the media. Anyone speaking "truth to power" or pursuing alternative and proven treatments were deemed to be "purveyors of misinformation".
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And those were similar circumstances and thoughts to mine as well.
I watched in amazement as people surrendered all vestiges of reason and meekly submitted to "authority" due to the power of the media. Anyone speaking "truth to power" or pursuing alternative and proven treatments were deemed to be "purveyors of misinformation".
:yowsa: That's the truly scary part isn't it?
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I came down with COVID not too long ago. I never rec'd the vaccine. They gave me a medication that was supposedly supposed to assist in killing the COVID vaccine. I discovered that the med that they gave me was not even FDA approved (for what good that is now a days) and stopped taking it. I had taken two tablets. I called the next day and chewed out the doc's asst -- I was never, ever told it was experimental. I was absolutely furious!! I did the zinc, Quercetin, Vit. C, D3, regime.
They told me that the strain that I had was highly contagious, with my heart condition I needed to take the anti-viral, etc., etc. Also, I needed to be on aspirin for 30 days. Nope. I did neither. They put fear into me at first. They told me my hubby would most definitely get it. He tested negative twice!
The FDA, WHO, CDC and gov't in general cannot be trusted!
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It's not just aneurysms, it is heart disease that is rising in general SINCE the vaccines. Those stats can't be covered up by simply assuming that they were predestined for heart disease anyways @PeteS in CA
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This is the part of the Tweet my post above addressed, my emphasis:
YouTube bodybuilding star Joesthetics dies aged 30 of aneurysm.
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Not all lots were the same.
Some lots were found to be contaminated: FDA Finds 60 Million COVID Vaccine Doses Were Potentially Contaminated: Reporthttps://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/ (https://www.westernjournal.com/fda-finds-60-million-covid-vaccine-doses-potentially-contaminated-report/)
and 100 Million Vaccine Doses Held Up Over Contamination Concerns, Firm Revealshttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/politics/emergent-vaccines.html)
It turns out that most adverse reactions are from some of the lots, other lots of the shots were relatively harmless with only one or two (if any) adverse reactions.
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1. The full story on those "contaminated" doses is that they never got shipped. The "contamination" was found before shipping, the extent of how many were "contaminated determined, and the "contaminated" doses were disposed of. The reason I put quote marks around the word contaminated is that the contamination was that the preservatives for a different medication (the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, IIRC) had been used instead of the correct preservatives.
2. Another problem with the point your were trying to make is that the affected Covid vaccine was the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Why is that a problem with your point? Because less than 5% of Covid vaccine doses dispensed in the US were from Johnson & Johnson. Further complicating the point you were trying to make is that only Johnson & Johnson, of the Covid vaccines authorized for use in the US, used Emergent BioSolutions for fill-and-finish. So >95% of Covid vaccines dispensed in the US had fill-and-finish done either internally (Pfizer) or by other companies the do fill-and-finish (Moderna).
3. :goalpost: noted, but I knew of this screw-up by Emergent BioSolutions, the full story, at the time it was discovered in 2021. I also knew in late 2020 or early 2021 that Pfizer and Moderna would/did not use Emergent BioSolutions' services. So despite the :goalpost: I responded.
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I am glad you and yours are having no problems.
And the 100-200 coworkers in my building - no loss of employees.
And the 1500-2000 employees of my company in the SF Bay Area - no loss of employees.
And the 3 or 4 thousand members who attend my church every weekend - no loss of members.
And the thousands -sometimes 10s of thousands - of runners and volunteers at running events in just the SF Bay Area every weekend of the year, plus or minus a holiday weekend or two - no loss of participants.
And the hundreds or thousands of commuters I see every weekday morning and evening, their presence indicating that employers and schools have not experienced losses of employees and/or students.
And shoppers at malls - no loss of customers.
And patrons at restaurants - no loss of diners.
And no increase in patients at a large hospital.
And no increase in patients at a hospice, which is in communication with hospitals, other hospice organizations, and mortuaries.
And no increase in funerals at a large cemetery which does still have space.
The crescent from Fremont to south San Jose to Palo Alto has about 2 or 3 million people. I'm just one person, which is the point of the quote above, but my and my family's daily and weekly experiences have a view of a fairly large portion of that population. The idea that Covid vaccines are deadly but we could see zero evidence of it in any of our experiences in population segments that are 80%-100% vaccinated is implausible or just ludicrous.
As to the comment that some people would be allergic to a Covid vaccine, that is not news. However, is it news to anyone disagreeing with my comments that screening is done before Covid - or any other - vaccination, and among the screening questions was a question whether the potential recipient had had an allergic reaction to any vaccine? Of course, allergic reactions is another :goalpost: , but easily answered.
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I've had an aneurism in my back for >6 years and was close to a stent through my left leg then Covid hit and because my obumercare had labeled me a problem child to their Medical/Pharmaceutical crap they cut me off completely.
Good News: I'm starting the Dr. Ferris Wheel THIS MONTH, much to my Family's delight.
Never had covid or their vacs.
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And those were similar circumstances and thoughts to mine as well.
I watched in amazement as people surrendered all vestiges of reason and meekly submitted to "authority" due to the power of the media. Anyone speaking "truth to power" or pursuing alternative and proven treatments were deemed to be "purveyors of misinformation".
Ditto. If these shots, a novel prophylactic treatment, not a traditional vaccine, were such a good idea, then that would be evident in a free marketplace of ideas. In some ways, I am a procrastinator. I'm one wave, one 'G' back from the cutting edge in tech--just too many versions of Windows over the years to jump on the newest thing. I figured (partly because there was very little COVID up here, and folks are spread out), that I'd wait to take the shots. Then the carrot turned into a stick, fast, with mandates of masks and physical separation, with talk of vaccine passports and isolation of those who didn't get the shots, and other heavy handed tactics and that made me balk even more. The the efficacy of the shots was officially degraded, to not stopping you from getting the disease (although that is the basic idea of a vaccine), then to not stopping one from transmitting the disease (claims of asymptomatic cases--AKA 'carriers"), to needing a second shot, a booster, two boosters, and then accounts of diminishing immune responses and adverse reactions.
But most convincing of all was the Hell-bent censorship campaign waged in social media and on YouTube and from ABCNNBCBS against anyone who wanted to investigate potential treatments for the disease, against those who mentioned natural immunity, and at that point, it sure semed to me we were not getting the straight skinny about much of anything COVID.
Nope, I didn't get the shots. I did some 4,500 or so food deliveries while the oil patch was dead, to keep busy and make a little milk money. I did eventually get COVID, took Ivermectin (the horse paste I took was the same weight-based dose as the human dose 0.2mg/kg), Zinc and Doxycycline, Vitamins C and D, and coughed up a lot of crap for a few days and got well, like a bad chest cold. Since then I haven't had any problems despite being a few pounds heavy, borderline diabetic, and over 60 (three potential comorbidities).
My interest in VAERS and accounts of adverse effects is simple scientific curiosity,
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The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life,
great leader.
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1. The full story on those "contaminated" doses is that they never got shipped. The "contamination" was found before shipping, the extent of how many were "contaminated determined, and the "contaminated" doses were disposed of. The reason I put quote marks around the word contaminated is that the contamination was that the preservatives for a different medication (the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, IIRC) had been used instead of the correct preservatives.
2. Another problem with the point your were trying to make is that the affected Covid vaccine was the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. Why is that a problem with your point? Because less than 5% of Covid vaccine doses dispensed in the US were from Johnson & Johnson. Further complicating the point you were trying to make is that only Johnson & Johnson, of the Covid vaccines authorized for use in the US, used Emergent BioSolutions for fill-and-finish. So >95% of Covid vaccines dispensed in the US had fill-and-finish done either internally (Pfizer) or by other companies the do fill-and-finish (Moderna).
3. :goalpost: noted, but I knew of this screw-up by Emergent BioSolutions, the full story, at the time it was discovered in 2021. I also knew in late 2020 or early 2021 that Pfizer and Moderna would/did not use Emergent BioSolutions' services. So despite the :goalpost: I responded.
I'm not moving goalposts, you are.
The bottom line is that you didn't see any problems in your area.
That is just wonderful.
Can you see the wind? Have you ever had -40 weather where YOU live? In your small corner of the world? No.
That doesn't mean those things do not exist.
I posted links to the information, and obviously you did not look at the data.
The data indicate batches with high adverse effects, but not all batches were shipped out to all over the US. Quite the contrary, and, oddly enough, it appears the 'defective' batches were not shipped to 'blue' states, for whatever reason. I'm just trying to follow the data.
But don't take my word for it. Here is a database, searchable by zip code and pharmacy of adverse reactions per batch which includes number of Adverse reactions, number of doses, the pharmacy, even, and there is significant variation in adverse reaction rates depending on batch.
https://knollfrank.github.io/HowBadIsMyBatch/VaccineDistributionByZipcode.html (https://knollfrank.github.io/HowBadIsMyBatch/VaccineDistributionByZipcode.html)
I'd wager that those in your area, or at least the people you hang with, have relatively few adverse reactions and a low rate thereof.
And then, there is this little graph:
(https://www.howbad.info/deathdose.png)
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For people who actually like data, here is a site full of links to everything you wanted to know about this but were afraid to ask...
https://www.howbad.info/index.html (https://www.howbad.info/index.html)
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gov't in general cannot be trusted!
Conservative rule number one!!!
And not-so-coincidentally, Redneck rule number one too!
And the very foundation of America rests also on that principle.
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The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life, great leader.
that's right... and really all I need to know.
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The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life, great leader.
Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe: Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.
HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020, Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.
June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.
American Medical Association calls for ‘immediate end’ to use of ivermectin for COVID-19
The Hill, Sep 2, 2021
The AMA, the country’s largest doctors group, is now joining in warning against use of the drug, joining the Food and Drug Administration and the CDC.
“We are alarmed by reports that outpatient prescribing for and dispensing of ivermectin have increased 24-fold since before the pandemic and increased exponentially over the past few months,” the AMA said in a statement, joined by the American Pharmacists Association and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists. “As such, we are calling for an immediate end to the prescribing, dispensing, and use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial.”
"Use of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 has been demonstrated to be harmful to patients,” the groups said. “Calls to poison control centers due to ivermectin ingestion have increased five-fold from their pre-pandemic baseline.”
Experts say that instead of risking the use of unproven drugs, people should get vaccinated.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/570519-american-medical-association-calls-for-immediate-end-to-use-of-ivermectin/
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Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe: Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.
HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020, Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.
HCQ was pulled two weeks after I saw Dr. Zelenko's very lucid YouTube explaining not only the regimen, but why it worked, in terms even a layman could understand. Donald Trump mentioned Hydroxychloroquine about a week after I saw that video, and it was pulled within a week, condemned on CNN as being "deadly". Deadly? My mother had been taking it for seven years for rheumatoid arthritis, another 'off label' use
But did you read any of the studies they based the decision on to pull IVM and HCQ?
I did.
The one touted to say HCQ was deadly was actually on chloroquine, with a limited cohort in Brazil. Lethal doses of Chloroquine were administered to a small group of patients, who died after being administered doses in a week amounting to 4 times the LD50 for Chloroquine, which has a long half-life in the human body. Oops.
All CNN did was shift from talking about Hydroxychloroquine to Chloroquine, hoping people would not notice, and say the study had to be stopped because patients were dying. (Ya think?)
But they didn't bother to say why. And they didn't bother to mention that Chloroquine and its known side effects were the reason Hydroxychloroquine was developed, to reduce the likelihood of side effects (especially lengthening the q-t interval) while retaining the antimalarial effects.
Then uses for HCQ were discovered to alleviate the symptoms of Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus.
As with Ivermectin, an effective (Nobel Prize winning) anti-parasitic, other uses were found--and still are being found.
The HCQ/IVM was administered to patients admitted to hospitals (already in the later stages of the disease, they'd been admitted). No zinc supplementation was administered in any of the studies.
The purpose of the HCQ was to act as an ionophore to get zinc ions into the Type 1 Pneumocytes and epithelial airway cells in order to disrupt viral replication (this was an early-onset treatment, to be used at first onset of symptoms). Zinc was known to disrupt the replication of the original SARS in vitro and in vivo. Azithromycin, a macrolide antibiotic, not only warded off bacterial infections but acted to mute immune response and prevent a Cytokine storm, an idiopathic effect of macrolide antibiotics in general.
Some studies used Azithromycin, most did not.
So the studies, conducted on patients with advanced COVID basically showed that locking the barn door after the horses got out was not effective at keeping the horses in, by waiting until patients were already critical to administer the early onset treatment, after the viral replication that treatment was to prevent had gone on until the patient was really sick.
As a scientist, I con only conclude the studies were designed to fail.
The same thing was done with Ivermectin/doxycycline/zinc, and in that regimen, the Ivermectin acted as the ionophore (and had other effects), the doxycycline as the antibiotic, and the Zinc as the viral replication inhibitor.
Only those who found a workaround by utilizing veterinary drugs ("horse paste", with a recommended dose of .2mg/kg for horses, same as for humans) got that treatment, myself included. My COVID symptoms (which had reached 'galloping lung crud') resolved in 5 days. I'm over 60, mildly over weight, and borderline diabetic. That's a trifecta of comorbidities, which would normally make one a candidate for a box (or urn).
Other ionophores were available, including Quercetin, which could be bought off the shelf, IF you could find it.
Note that the chief source of zinc in people's diets is red meat, one thing "healthy" diets eschew in favor of low zinc options, like skinless white chicken meat and fish.
People in assisted living and nursing home facilities are at the mercy of dieticians who have been 'educated' to this general mindset and are likely to be deficient in zinc to begin with. Add in other comorbidities, and the lack of vitamin D promoted by lockdowns and lack of sunlight, and the stage is set to have thousands die, which they did.
Now the quandary for patient treating physicians:
Do you do a double blind study (which requires the administration of placebos to a cohort of study participants for the purpose of comparing results of the treatment with sugar pills, knowing the untreated patients are likely to get even more sick or die), or do you treat your patients with the best available medication?
Of course there were no double blind studies, but there was an awful lot of information from treating physicians indicating success with the HCQ and IVM regimens, and not many of them sold a supplement line.
You could get Quercetin, zinc, Vitamins C and D at virtually any store that sold supplements, IVM could be obtained at the feed store (if they could keep it in stock), and veterinary doxycycline was still available, even though a primary and trusted source for veterinary antibiotics, Thomas Laboratories, suddenly stopped producing antibiotics at the start of COVID.
Hmm. I'd bought antibiotics from them for years, not for the fish tank, but for me, because I could take them out to the field with me and use them if I got sick. The tablets/capsules were identical to the ones at the pharmacy, and you could look them up in any pill identifier and see what they were--at least appearing to be what they were advertised as. I used them many times over the years, because where I worked there were often no doctors readily available.
Now for the big question. Why work so hard to discredit potentially effective therapies for COVID?
The answer is ugly, but simple.
If effective treatments existed for the disease, then the terms of the Emergency Use Authorization for the 'vaccine' would no longer be in effect, and full clinical testing would have to be conducted before administering the shots wholesale, and there would be no waiver of liability for the shots.
In a nutshell, Billions of dollars were at stake, and people within the Pharma Industry and Medical Community stood to gain (or lose) a LOT.
The IVM/Doxycycline/Zinc courses of medication were available in India for under $3.00 US, and would have cost under 20 bucks here. What's more, the drugs were no longer under patent and generics could be issued. No money for Pharma there. No grants for the people who did the studies.
Were studies retracted? Oh, yes. Here, you will find not only 343 retracted studies, but the reasons for which they were removed from the scientific literature. https://retractionwatch.com/retracted-coronavirus-covid-19-papers/ (https://retractionwatch.com/retracted-coronavirus-covid-19-papers/)
Note that the NIH does not recommend Ivermectin, but is, again, hobbled by studies that used just Ivermectin, and not the vital Zinc supplementation, just as was done with hydroxychloroquine.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/miscellaneous-drugs/ivermectin/ (https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/miscellaneous-drugs/ivermectin/)
Incomplete regimens yield incomplete results. Kinda like sending landing craft to the beach during D-Day with no troops on board, it is only going to draw fire, and not get the job done--unless "the job" is to summarily discredit treatments to retain freedom from liability and rake in billions.
As in all things, YMMV.
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There is no case of any politician or billionaire who has suffered myocarditis or 'sudden death' as it is called. The explanation is simple. They were mandating an unproven, untested, undocumented, sterilization, DNA 'shot' for the peasant masses, while never taking it themselves.
They knew is was risky. They just did not care. Let's just sit back, smoke a cigar, and see what happens?
The best thing is the loony Leftists were the first to rush for the shot. So, they are going to take the brunt of the aftereffects. The sad part is the normal people who were forced into this global experiment, who had no way of saying 'NO!'.
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All the Leftist 'indoctrination' All the Leftist bullshit. It is coming back to them.
Eat your own shit, you puppets, you hobgoblins of nothingness
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I have never once been tested for COVID and never will be. My wife, a now retired medical professional with more than 40 years experience, insists that the test is a delivery method to infect those with healthy immune systems and would otherwise not get infected. I don't know but I'm not about to argue with her about it.
When the CHICOM attack (COVID) began I was over 70 years old, mildly overweight, taking meds to keep my heartbeat regular and my BP under control, and a pill a day that (according to my long time MD) prevents me from becoming fully diabetic. Showed symptoms on two separate occasions. Took the horse paste, Zinc, D3, and Amoxicillin. The wife did the same except for substituting Quercetin for the horse paste. The symptoms were gone in three days both times. I continue to take D3 and vitamin C daily.
And the, for me at least, biggest question remains. WHY on earth would anyone take any experimental anything for a disease with a 95% plus survival rate.
I won't get into the efforts to "push the herd" that were also a HUGE red flag for me as that has all been covered by others already.
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HCQ was pulled two weeks after I saw Dr. Zelenko's very lucid YouTube explaining not only the regimen, but why it worked, in terms even a layman could understand. Donald Trump mentioned Hydroxychloroquine about a week after I saw that video, and it was pulled within a week, condemned on CNN as being "deadly". Deadly? My mother had been taking it for seven years for rheumatoid arthritis, another 'off label' use
But did you read any of the studies they based the decision on to pull IVM and HCQ?
I did.
Just to clarify @Smokin Joe : I wasn't commenting on the appropriateness of the FDA's actions, just confirming the actual treatment President Trump received for COVID in Oct 2020 ---- and subsequent changes made by the FDA to the usage of COVID therapeutics.
Having said this, your full post is incredibly chock full of good information (as are most of your posts). I appreciate your research and will need some time to digest it all, which I haven't got today. Today, I'll simply say "thank you". happy77
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The icing on the cake, to me @Smokin Joe was they outlawing $hit that worked, HCQ and Ivermectin even after it saved the Presidents Life, great leader.
There's that and then the sanctions against medical professionals and doctors who tried to administer said meds. If "saving just one life" was the real intent, then ALL cards would have been on the table to include medical freedom to choose and use what worked best for each person. But that was not permitted. Dr's were threatened with their licenses/livelihood if they stepped out of line, forcing everyone into a cattle chute.
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There's that and then the sanctions against medical professionals and doctors who tried to administer said meds. If "saving just one life" was the real intent, then ALL cards would have been on the table to include medical freedom to choose and use what worked best for each person. But that was not permitted. Dr's were threatened with their licenses/livelihood if they stepped out of line, forcing everyone into a cattle chute.
Consider, about one in 5 nurses worldwide refused the mRNA shots: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8876951/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8876951/)
And it wasn't just the healthcare field. From: https://hrexecutive.com/how-many-unvaccinated-workers-have-quit-to-avoid-vaccine-mandates/ (https://hrexecutive.com/how-many-unvaccinated-workers-have-quit-to-avoid-vaccine-mandates/)
How many workers have quit to avoid vaccine mandates?
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Kathryn Mayer
November 5, 2021:
However, according to the survey, more than a third (37%) of unvaccinated workers (5% of adults overall) say they would leave their job if their employer required them to get a vaccine or get tested weekly, a share that rises to seven in 10 unvaccinated workers (9% of all adults) if weekly testing is not an option. Six in 10 workers (8% of all adults) also say they would ask for an exemption if presented with such a mandate.
While COVID fear porn was effective, and some employees were cited as having expressed concerns about the un vaccinated in their ranks (but they were vaccinated and should have immunity, right? Right?) The comment was made here: https://hrexecutive.com/is-your-talent-really-walking-out-the-door-to-avoid-a-covid-vaccine/ (https://hrexecutive.com/is-your-talent-really-walking-out-the-door-to-avoid-a-covid-vaccine/) that COVID-19 vaccinations–as with mask policies–have been polarizing and politicized, which is why mandates have become controversial, despite other vaccinations being required as a condition of employment.
Now, why would concern seem to be greater over this injection compared to the other vaccines?
Because this is a novel (read: untried) "vaccine"--not just the shots, but the approach, which unlike vaccines in the past that take killed virus or weakened virus strains to teach the human body to make antibodies, this is supposed to teach the human body to make the antigens (spike proteins) to have a reaction to in order to form antibodies.
The approach was/is still controversial, and the efficacy was/is still in question.
Traditional vaccines stop you from getting that particular disease, the mRNA shots rather conspicuously did not.
Traditionally, the vaccinated had nothing to fear from the unvaccinated--or even the infected--because they acquired immunity to the pathogen they were vaccinated against.
That was so glaringly not in evidence that the definition of a vaccine was changed to accommodate the mRNA injections so they could even be called "vaccines".
Especially in the Healthcare industry, this was well understood, and a multitude refused to get the novel mRNA injections, even at the cost of admitting privileges at hospitals or their jobs.
...and that does not include religious objections, some due to the use of fetal cell lines in developing the shots.
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The general population that embraced taking the COVID vaccine have limited intelligence.
My wife, a doctor, had COVID the last week of 2019, and I had it the first week of 2020. When COVID was hitting the news, I was recovering from having had the virus. The government has lied all along.
And since when do we as a country take EXPERIMENTAL DRUGS? What is the sense of having the FDA if we are going to force people to take a vaccine that is unproven? And the fact remains that over time, more people will die from the vaccine than did with the virus.
Mortality rates for highly vaxed countries with the mRNA is up 10% across the board. So, PeteS in CA, you must be living under a rock. I know personally folks that have died from the vaccine. And it will get worse. Wait until cancer rates begin to skyrocket.
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When hospitals are being given financial incentives from the federal government for Covid deaths instead of Covid recoveries, there is a problem.
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Here's what President Trump received as treatment for COVID in October 2020 @corbe: Dexamethasone (a steroid), Remdesivir, Regeneron's monoclonal antibody (single dose), Zinc, Vit D, Aspirin. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/pharmacy/8-drugs-trump-has-been-given-for-his-covid-19-treatment.html#:~:text=Remdesivir%20%E2%80%94%20President%20Trump%20was%20given,%2Dday%20course%2C%20CNN%20reported.
HCQ was pulled by the FDA in Jun 2020, Ivermectin was ended by the FDA in Sep 2021 and Monoclonal antibodies were limited by the FDA in Jan 2022.
And Remdesivir was linked to an increase in Covid deaths instead of a decrease. I sincerely believe they knew this when they gave it to Trump.