The Briefing Room
General Category => Health/Education => Topic started by: mystery-ak on June 13, 2020, 01:38:49 pm
-
CDC threatens another US lockdown if coronavirus cases spike at its first briefing in three months - as other experts warn the surge in some states is still the FIRST wave of the virus
Strict lockdowns and social distancing measures could return if cases spike 'dramatically', said the CDC's deputy director for infectious diseases Jay Butler
The agency gave its first briefing in three months Friday
Fears are mounting that several states reopened their economies too early, with a renewed spike in cases recorded in Texas, Florida and Arizona
Experts are warning that the surge in cases is still the first - and not a second - wave of the virus that never truly went away
States that stayed in lockdown longer may have cleared the first wave, say experts whereas others 'have had more of a first-wave plateau'
More than 114,000 Americans have died and 2 million have been infected
Here’s how to help people impacted by Covid-19
By Rachel Sharp For Dailymail.com
Published: 09:11 EDT, 13 June 2020 | Updated: 09:20 EDT, 13 June 2020
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has threatened that another US lockdown will be on the cards if coronavirus cases spike, at the agency's first briefing in three months after it was sidelined when the pandemic began.
'If cases begin to go up again, particularly if they go up dramatically, it's important to recognize that more mitigation efforts such as what were implemented back in March may be needed again,' the CDC's deputy director for infectious diseases, Jay Butler, warned in a press briefing Friday.
Fears are mounting that several states embarked on reopening their economies too early, with a renewed spike in cases recorded in Texas, Florida and Arizona.
more
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8417265/CDC-threatens-lockdown-coronavirus-cases-spike.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8417265/CDC-threatens-lockdown-coronavirus-cases-spike.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)
-
The CDC can threaten all they like, and nothing will happen if the political leaders tell them to pound sand, we're not going there again. Let's hope they've developed a spine in the past few months.
-
Does this mean the CDC has given up on 'going where the science leads them'?
Because 'the science' does not in any way back up the contention that lockdowns do a damn bit of good.
I have to admire their gaul though - allowing three weeks of elbow-to-arsehole protesting and rioting without so much as the word 'virus' being uttered, then threatening a lockdown if a spike in cases results.
-
The CDC can threaten all they like, and nothing will happen if the political leaders tell them to pound sand, we're not going there again. Let's hope they've developed a spine in the past few months.
Me too. The last 'lockdown' hoax was handled so poorly (can't go to church or the beach, but rioting in the thousands is just fine) I doubt very many people would pay attention to it. Unless they have thousands of police ready to arrest 100s of thousands 'lockdown violations', everything will just continue as it is now.
The CDC and Fauci in particular have lost all credibility.
-
Me too. The last 'lockdown' hoax was handled so poorly (can't go to church or the beach, but rioting in the thousands is just fine) I doubt very many people would pay attention to it. Unless they have thousands of police ready to arrest 100s of thousands 'lockdown violations', everything will just continue as it is now.
The CDC and Fauci in particular have lost all credibility.
What worries me are the nameless faceless bureaucrats at the local level - they'll be delighted to enforce another lockdown. What would stop them from yanking permits and business licenses of those who defy another lockdown mandate? They are almost totally immune from public opinion and most are batsh*t crazy ideologues. The public education system will be happy to comply, as well, in spite of what we want.
I'm afraid the government at the state and local levels in many states are completely beyond the public's reach. In CA we've got rampant voter fraud, so not even elected officials need worry about election day consequences.
-
I am so done with Covid-19 theater. I’m marking this baby down as just another failed establishment coup.
-
I am so done with Covid-19 theater. I’m marking this baby down as just another failed establishment coup.
@aligncare
I have mentioned the virus scare was nothing more than an attempt by the DNC to prevent the election from happening by blaming it on Trump,and extending the lock down right up to election day,if possible,because the DNC want's Biden to win and then step down due to health issues so they can just name who they want. I have also said they will almost certainly name Hillary as the next president.
I have done this in public places in a louder than speaking voice so people other than those I was talking with would hear it,and have YET to have anyone disagree with me,or even say "Maybe".
They have ALL nodding their heads vigorously and agreed that was the Dims only hope of defeating Trump was to create one crisis after another and blame them all on Trump.
Not ONE person even seemed hesitant to disagree with me,and I did not know any of those people well enough to know their political views.
Granted,this wasn't a scientific poll,but the fact I got unanimous agreement from all would indicate the media is lying to us.
-
@aligncare
I have mentioned the virus scare was nothing more than an attempt by the DNC to prevent the election from happening by blaming it on Trump,and extending the lock down right up to election day,if possible,because the DNC want's Biden to win and then step down due to health issues so they can just name who they want. I have also said they will almost certainly name Hillary as the next president.
I have done this in public places in a louder than speaking voice so people other than those I was talking with would hear it,and have YET to have anyone disagree with me,or even say "Maybe".
They have ALL nodding their heads vigorously and agreed that was the Dims only hope of defeating Trump was to create one crisis after another and blame them all on Trump.
Not ONE person even seemed hesitant to disagree with me,and I did not know any of those people well enough to know their political views.
Granted,this wasn't a scientific poll,but the fact I got unanimous agreement from all would indicate the media is lying to us.
The DNC is definitely using this virus to their advantage, but I still think Fauci, Bidens and the Chinese inflicted this virus around the globe with the specific intent to bring down Trump and to allow China's currency to become the dominate currency over the rest of the world.
-
The DNC is definitely using this virus to their advantage, but I still think Fauci, Bidens and the Chinese inflicted this virus around the globe with the specific intent to bring down Trump and to allow China's currency to become the dominate currency over the rest of the world.
The Chinese do not think twice about taking a life or lives, and they are not at all particular about who they kill. I believe wholeheartedly that the virus was released by China intentionally, and that it was spread internationally deliberately. China locked down Wuhan province because of the virus and would not allow anyone there to travel internally within China. However, at the same time, the Chinese were still allowing international flights out of Wuhan. This is proof that they knew about the virus and did not want to allow the spread of it within China. But, they deliberately allowed international flights to intentionally spread it all over the world.
China saw that Trump was not playing their brand of baseball. China wants Trump gone more than anything. Then, they will only have to deal with Democrats which are all ready bought and paid for in China's pocket. The Left in America and around the world were jubilant to 'play along' because they saw the virus and subsequent lockdown as a way to wreck Trump's glorious economy, disrupt the coming election, and as a means to consolidate totalitarian power. It was the trifecta of Liberal dreams coming true.
Now, they are going for a second dip at the pot. But I think they have already overplayed the hand they had. I doubt America will fall for their stupidity again. The riots shattered the so called 'lockdown'. The Democrats will never be able to put the pieces back together again the way it was.
-
The CDC can threaten all they like, and nothing will happen if the political leaders tell them to pound sand, we're not going there again. Let's hope they've developed a spine in the past few months.
California is reoopening at a fast clip. Speaking of clips, I'm headed to get a haircut.
The governor tried to scapegoat nail salons, largely a racist ploy landing on hard-working Vietnames.
Lutheran church in my neigjborhood, opens tomorrow but limitted attendance.
This threat of a 2nd wave, may force them to reveal wht the 1st wave was reaally like.
-
The DNC is definitely using this virus to their advantage, but I still think Fauci, Bidens and the Chinese inflicted this virus around the globe with the specific intent to bring down Trump and to allow China's currency to become the dominate currency over the rest of the world.
@libertybele
So do I,and it was the very first thing that popped into my head when I heard the virus originated in China.
-
The lockdowns are costing more lives than they prevent. Americans were obese before they spent 3 months indoors. I predict a wave of shark attacks, as more of them mistake swimmers for walruses.
-
Just out of curiosity,who/what gives the CDC the authority to tell states and citizens what they MUST do?
-
We won't get fooled again!
-
The DNC is definitely using this virus to their advantage, but I still think Fauci, Bidens and the Chinese inflicted this virus around the globe with the specific intent to bring down Trump and to allow China's currency to become the dominate currency over the rest of the world.
If the economy is growing this fall the rats are sunk. And we know they will do anything to win. So a “second wave†shutdown is inevitable.
-
@aligncare
I have mentioned the virus scare was nothing more than an attempt by the DNC to prevent the election from happening by blaming it on Trump,and extending the lock down right up to election day,if possible,because the DNC want's Biden to win and then step down due to health issues so they can just name who they want. I have also said they will almost certainly name Hillary as the next president.
@sneakypete
If Biden is in office, he has a vice-president. If Biden stepped down, the VP would be President.
-
Just out of curiosity,who/what gives the CDC the authority to tell states and citizens what they MUST do?
@sneakypete
The CDC does not have the authority to force another lockdown or anything else. Unfortunately, our state and local leaders do and they will listen to and act upon any stupid "recommendation" or "guideline" the CDC issues, including trying to lock down the country.
I have my doubts another lockdown will be enforced. It's not just about the economy. It's summer and after months of isolation, no one wants to be inside. If these state and local governments try to force people back into lockdown, there will be a fight.
-
If the economy is growing this fall the rats are sunk. And we know they will do anything to win. So a “second wave†shutdown is inevitable.
They may try, but I don't see most Americans sheepishly complying as they did before.
-
They may try, but I don't see most Americans sheepishly complying as they did before.
The lockdowns were never a sustainable solution—not of this length or magnitude. They had a few months to get ahead of the virus before things started to collapse. I don't know how people have been willing to put up with it this long, though I suspect two things: 1) envy of the island/peninsula nations that managed to extirpate/near-extirpate it, and 2) the sudden change from mild caution to "cancel/shut down everything" that U.S. and European governments took in mid-March caused genuine panic.
-
The lockdowns were never a sustainable solution—not of this length or magnitude. They had a few months to get ahead of the virus before things started to collapse. I don't know how people have been willing to put up with it this long, though I suspect two things: 1) envy of the island/peninsula nations that managed to extirpate/near-extirpate it, and 2) the sudden change from mild caution to "cancel/shut down everything" that U.S. and European governments took in mid-March caused genuine panic.
What with the government deciding COVID really isn't a problem where there are riots to be held, a lot of people feel (accurately) they've been had. This might prove interesting if they try to pull that string again. :pondering:
-
@sneakypete
If Biden is in office, he has a vice-president. If Biden stepped down, the VP would be President.
@Victoria33
I have been told that is no longer true if the President dies before being sworn in. I have been told in that case,the DNC or the RNC,as the case may be,have the authority to appoint anyone they want. The new president is not in office yet,so the rules you state wouldn't appply to him or her.
-
@Victoria33
I have been told that is no longer true if the President dies before being sworn in. I have been told in that case,the DNC or the RNC,as the case may be,have the authority to appoint anyone they want. The new president is not in office yet,so the rules you state wouldn't appply to him or her.
@sneakypete
You are correct; I did not know you meant Biden would die before being sworn in.
-
@sneakypete
If Biden was elected President and die before he was sworn in, the Democrat National Committee would select the President. That committee is made up of a man and woman Democrat from every state, plus the Chairman of every state's Democrat Party. So, there would be Democrat representatives from every state to select the President.
-
@sneakypete
You are correct; I did not know you meant Biden would die before being sworn in.
@Victoria33
Even *I* am not aware that is what I meant. IF the Dims are able to steal the election and Slow Joe wins,who and what is going to be able to tell the Dims they can't legally equate being brain dead with actually being dead,and just go ahead and name his successor?
They will almost certainly control congress,and they absolutely control the teebee and print news media,which means they control what the non-politically aware think of political events.
What and who is going to stop them?
-
@Victoria33
Even *I* am not aware that is what I meant. IF the Dims are able to steal the election and Slow Joe wins,who and what is going to be able to tell the Dims they can't legally equate being brain dead with actually being dead,and just go ahead and name his successor?
They will almost certainly control congress,and they absolutely control the teebee and print news media,which means they control what the non-politically aware think of political events.
What and who is going to stop them?
As one who recalls Echelon and Carnivore, those grown complacent with communications and even the status quo, should think about taking care of things before the Dems gain power. Just to be prepared for contingencies.
-
What did the CDC, FDA or any other government agency say about the use of thalidomide during the 1960's? 'It won't hurt anything.' "Why, thalidomide is perfectly safe!' Yeah,.... r-I-g-h-t. This old lady would like to tell those fracking idiots to take a flying leap! :patriot:
-
What did the CDC, FDA or any other government agency say about the use of thalidomide during the 1960's? 'It won't hurt anything.' "Why, thalidomide is perfectly safe!' Yeah,.... r-I-g-h-t. This old lady would like to tell those fracking idiots to take a flying leap! :patriot:
@conservativevoter
Ahhhh,but THESE are new and improved idiots,with additives and niacin added!
BTW,would someone please explain to me when the CDC got to issue orders to the President to shut the nation down? I must have been taking a nap and missed that one.
-
@conservativevoter
Ahhhh,but THESE are new and improved idiots,with additives and niacin added!
BTW,would someone please explain to me when the CDC got to issue orders to the President to shut the nation down? I must have been taking a nap and missed that one.
I have that very thought every time I see the headline. They like to pretend it's "up to them," but it isn't even up to the President of the United States.
-
I have that very thought every time I see the headline. They like to pretend it's "up to them," but it isn't even up to the President of the United States.
@Cyber Liberty
Exactly,we elect Presidents,not dictators.
Dictators elect themselves.
-
CDC threatens another US lockdown
=========================
Wanna hedge bets this time on compliance? :silly:
-
CDC threatens another US lockdown
=========================
Wanna hedge bets this time on compliance? :silly:
@catfish1957
I dunno. It's still pretty iffy on that one. I still see people who are horrified to see me without a mask,and back away from me in fear because of it.
Plus,there are still some states or cities were you can't even go into a fastfood burger joint and sit down to drink a cup of coffee due to state or city laws.
I had no idea there were so many wusses in this country.
Maybe I would take it more seriously if I were younger and healthier and had something to lose. I would like to think I would think the same as now,but who knows?
-
The headline “The CDC threatens..†is prima facie evidence of 1. media lying, 2. media manipulating.
-
The headline “The CDC threatens..†is prima facie evidence of 1. media lying, 2. media manipulating.
EPA, OSHA, DOT, et al. can threaten. Stinking CDC doesn't even have an enforement branch.
-
EPA, OSHA, DOT, et al. can threaten. Stinking CDC doesn't even have an enforement branch.
And yet the perception, not the fact, is what will keep people’s face masks glued to their faces right up to November 3rd.
-
None of the reasons for why the CDC can't do anything are irrelevant because the DNC MUST keep Biden off the campaign trail,and there is no better available way to do that than another shut down.
Besides,it will cause the economy to go into the dumps again,and the left can then blame it on Trump.
-
The headline “The CDC threatens..†is prima facie evidence of 1. media lying, 2. media manipulating.
it's typical of media today. Screaming headlines, most of which don't mass the story inside. I think most media types know the average reader has little if any attention span. They read the headline and get hysterical without really looking into the subject. The headlines are designed that way on purpose.
Used to see this stuff on blogs put out by cranks and clickbait. Now they all do it.
-
Another obvious ploy to push Americans in their FEAR to want 'vote by mail', which is the best and brightest hope of the Left to regain power before all their perfidy, sedition, and treason is exposed and acted upon.
This is what is at stake: Either they regain power by any means short of war in the streets, or they go down, they lose power, and the past half century of infiltration of the government, academia, media, and attempted destruction and distortion of the history thereof, will have been for naught. Ripped from the network of the national fabric, like crabgrass, roots and all ripped from a lush lawn, the Communists would be left to wither while this country flourished, to the chagrin of those multigenerational forces which have plotted its downfall.
This Republic is at stake.
Either the Communists, the Globalists (the end goal of communists everywhere is a One World Government), and those who kneel before those masters for temporary personal gain are outed and defeated, or we will lose this Republic and this grand experiment will come to a tragic end.