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Title: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mystery-ak on May 13, 2016, 02:00:23 am
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Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Thursday, May 12, 2016 09:15 PM

By: Todd Beamon

The Obama administration on Friday will order that every public school district in the United States must allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity.

"No student should ever have to go through the experience of feeling unwelcome at school or on a college campus," Education Secretary John King Jr. told The New York Times in a statement late Thursday. "We must ensure that our young people know that whoever they are or wherever they come from, they have the opportunity to get a great education in an environment free from discrimination, harassment and violence."

The letter, to be signed by the Education and Justice departments,  will describe what school districts should do to ensure that no students are discriminated against, the Times reports.

While the letter will not have the force of law, it is to contain an implicit threat: Schools not abiding by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid, according to the Times.

The decree comes amid the administration's battle with North Carolina over transgender rights and is most likely to renew attacks by Republicans that the White House is involving itself in state issues.

The Justice Department and North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory sued each other over the transgender bathroom law he signed in March.

The law requires transgender people to use the public restroom matching the sex on their birth certificate. The ordinance only applies to schools, universities, government buildings and highway rest stops.

"We didn't think there was a problem at all until the Democrats brought this up in Charlotte, North Carolina," McCrory, 59, a first-term Republican, told Jake Tapper Wednesday on CNN. "We didn't need a bathroom law. We never have asked for a bathroom law.

President Barack Obama condemned the law last month — and Attorney General Loretta Lynch on Monday said it violated the U.S. Civil Rights Act.

"A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so," says the letter, a copy of which was provided to the Times.

Under federal law, a school must seek to "ensure nondiscrimination on the basis of sex requires schools to provide transgender students equal access to educational programs and activities even in circumstances in which other students, parents, or community members raise objections or concerns," the letter states.

"As is consistently recognized in civil rights cases, the desire to accommodate others’ discomfort cannot justify a policy that singles out and disadvantages a particular class of students."

Once a child's parent or legal guardian indicates the individual's gender identity that "differs from previous representations or records," according to the letter, the child must be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced, according to the letter.

Schools may — though are not required to — provide other restroom and locker room options for students who seek "additional privacy" for whatever reason, the letter states.

The Obama administration is including a 25-page document with the letter describing "emerging practices" currently in place in many schools around the country, the Times reports.

Those included installing privacy curtains or allowing students to change in bathroom stalls, according to the report.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: TomSea on May 13, 2016, 02:04:53 am
The Obama administration is setting it up where there legacy will be forcing perversity on the American people.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 13, 2016, 02:09:47 am
I have an idea.

Bonfires in public squares. Letters onto bonfires.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: geronl on May 13, 2016, 02:42:09 am
Only a matter of time until a girl who refuses to shower with a boy is accused of a hate crime and suspended from 7th grade
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: rangerrebew on May 13, 2016, 10:54:18 am
BREAKING: Obama's Late Night Transgendered Bathroom Decision

    05/12/2016 Source: New York Times by: JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS and MATT APUZZO

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The Obama administration is planning to issue a sweeping directive telling every public school district in the country to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity.

A letter to school districts will go out Friday, fueling a highly charged debate over transgender rights in the middle of the administration’s legal fight with North Carolina over the issue. The declaration — signed by Justice and Education Department officials — will describe what schools should do to ensure that none of their students are discriminated against.

It does not have the force of law, but it contains an implicit threat: Schools that do not abide by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid.
- See more at: http://americanactionnews.com/articles/breaking-obama-s-late-night-transgendered-bathroom-decision#sthash.nQq9kHbf.dpuf
Read more at http://americanactionnews.com/articles/breaking-obama-s-late-night-transgendered-bathroom-decision#bIl942CwJIhHP3dd.99
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Cowboyway on May 13, 2016, 10:59:35 am
I wonder if 0dumbo would be comfortable with men sharing the locker room with his daughters?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: driftdiver on May 13, 2016, 11:04:35 am
I wonder if 0dumbo would be comfortable with men sharing the locker room with his daughters?

His daughters have their elite private school.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 13, 2016, 11:54:53 am
(http://neveryetmelted.com/wp-images/ObamaFemale.jpg)
Which way to the ladies' room?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 13, 2016, 12:04:42 pm
Liberals are going to overreach on this, big time. Almost literally, haha.

People will never accept biological males changing with their daughters. Never, ever, ever.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: EC on May 13, 2016, 12:07:47 pm
Todays lesson on the importance of clarity in headlines ...  :tongue2:

Did he decide which to use, in the end, or did he pee in the corner as usual?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 13, 2016, 12:10:35 pm
Repeating my call from other thread.

1. Schools districts make multiple copies of the diktat.
2. School districts organize a bonfire in the largest public park suitable.
3. Letters added to bonfire
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on May 13, 2016, 12:50:24 pm
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Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Thursday, May 12, 2016 09:15 PM

By: Todd Beamon

The Obama administration on Friday will order that every public school district in the United States must allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match their gender identity.

"No student should ever have to go through the experience of feeling unwelcome at school or on a college campus," Education Secretary John King Jr. told The New York Times in a statement late Thursday. "We must ensure that our young people know that whoever they are or wherever they come from, they have the opportunity to get a great education in an environment free from discrimination, harassment and violence."

The letter, to be signed by the Education and Justice departments,  will describe what school districts should do to ensure that no students are discriminated against, the Times reports.

While the letter will not have the force of law, it is to contain an implicit threat: Schools not abiding by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid, according to the Times.

The decree comes amid the administration's battle with North Carolina over transgender rights and is most likely to renew attacks by Republicans that the White House is involving itself in state issues.

The Justice Department and North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory sued each other over the transgender bathroom law he signed in March.

The law requires transgender people to use the public restroom matching the sex on their birth certificate. The ordinance only applies to schools, universities, government buildings and highway rest stops.

"We didn't think there was a problem at all until the Democrats brought this up in Charlotte, North Carolina," McCrory, 59, a first-term Republican, told Jake Tapper Wednesday on CNN. "We didn't need a bathroom law. We never have asked for a bathroom law.

President Barack Obama condemned the law last month — and Attorney General Loretta Lynch on Monday said it violated the U.S. Civil Rights Act.

"A school may not require transgender students to use facilities inconsistent with their gender identity or to use individual-user facilities when other students are not required to do so," says the letter, a copy of which was provided to the Times.

Under federal law, a school must seek to "ensure nondiscrimination on the basis of sex requires schools to provide transgender students equal access to educational programs and activities even in circumstances in which other students, parents, or community members raise objections or concerns," the letter states.

"As is consistently recognized in civil rights cases, the desire to accommodate others’ discomfort cannot justify a policy that singles out and disadvantages a particular class of students."

Once a child's parent or legal guardian indicates the individual's gender identity that "differs from previous representations or records," according to the letter, the child must be treated accordingly — without any requirement for a medical diagnosis or birth certificate to be produced, according to the letter.

Schools may — though are not required to — provide other restroom and locker room options for students who seek "additional privacy" for whatever reason, the letter states.

The Obama administration is including a 25-page document with the letter describing "emerging practices" currently in place in many schools around the country, the Times reports.

Those included installing privacy curtains or allowing students to change in bathroom stalls, according to the report.

I see nothing in this article that has anything to do with Health or Education.

Now, when Obama orders all children to stop being home-schooled(and many will certainly add home-schooling after this dictate), then there will be some educational effects felt.

After all, if he can tell someone where to pee, he can certainly order those same individuals into the indoctrination camp called public schools, right?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: rangerrebew on May 13, 2016, 01:43:21 pm
There isn't anything in the dictate that says guys must pee in a bathroom, is there?  If people can pee where they want, and are comfortable, why not in a stairwell, under a desk at the library, in a closet?  If my puny brain can think like this, I will guarantee you some conduct disorder will think of it and do it.  Whether the news will cover such an event is unlikely because it would make his "order" look stupid.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Variant on May 13, 2016, 01:46:19 pm
Shouldn't schools also be forced to install urinals in women's bathrooms as well for all these new women who are now able to use them?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: rangerrebew on May 13, 2016, 02:13:41 pm
Shouldn't schools also be forced to install urinals in women's bathrooms as well for all these new women who are now able to use them?

Welcome aboard, Variant.   :beer:  We look forward to all the wisdom and insight you have to our discussions. :broc:  We my, though, overlook one or two average ones.  No pressure. 0052
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: rangerrebew on May 13, 2016, 02:16:13 pm
Shouldn't schools also be forced to install urinals in women's bathrooms as well for all these new women who are now able to use them?

They would also have to add feminine hygiene dispensers in the boys bathrooms just in case the wannabe boy hasn't had a hardware change. :silly:
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 13, 2016, 02:42:12 pm
In what is the most direct line of rhetoric out of the Obama administration yet regarding the highly contentious debate over the rights of the transgender community, a “sweeping directive” is being issued to all US public schools today.

A letter from the White House is expected to go out Friday to all school districts in the nation to allow transgender students to use the bathrooms that match the gender that they identify with, not necessarily that of their birth. This is the most widespread and visible effort from the President on the issue yet, and a topic of national conversation that the administration has weighed in on for several years.

The New York Times reports, “It does not have the force of law, but it contains an implicit threat: Schools that do not abide by the Obama administration’s interpretation of the law could face lawsuits or a loss of federal aid.”

Read more:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-directs-all-public-schools-allow-transgender-students-to-use-bathroom-of-choice/
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: rangerrebew on May 13, 2016, 03:11:24 pm
Obama Administration Backs Off Attempt To Extort North Carolina’s Children

http://downtrend.com/markeece/obama-administration-backs-off-attempt-to-extort-north-carolinas-children

May 12, 2016| by Markeece Young

The Obama administration vowed to strip federal funding from North Carolina until they repealed “HB2.” They planned to even strip funding from schools, which would hurt North Carolina’s classrooms. House Bill 2 stated, women and men had to use separate bathroom and locker room facilitates in public places.

“The administration will not take action to withhold funding while this enforcement process is playing out in the courts,” White House spokesman Josh Earnest told journalists during the daily press briefing.

North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory posted the following statement:

“Sometimes the only way to stop a bully is to stand your ground and stare them down,” said Russell Peck, campaign manager for North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory. “While Governor McCrory continues to defend North Carolina and fight Washington, D.C.’s unprecedented overreach, Roy Cooper and his allies continue to try and trash our state’s reputation and economy for their own political benefit.”

The fight over the bill is far from over. Both North Carolina, and the Obama administration have filed lawsuits against each other of the bill.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 13, 2016, 03:59:07 pm
There's no back down. Obama doubled down by issuing a diktat to every public school district in the USSA
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 13, 2016, 04:53:24 pm
Here's the deal folks- dear leader issued this decree KNOWING that either person who wins the next presidency will be in favour of LGBT issues and will carry on this homosexual agenda- whether donald or 'she who's name one dare not mention' wins both will take this decree and run with it- Thank you so much trump supporters- what a shining example of conservativism you've nominated- angrily nominated- I guess 8 years of immorality and the homosexual agenda wasn't long enough eh?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 13, 2016, 06:29:12 pm
please read

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,206478.msg879122/topicseen.html#msg879122
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 13, 2016, 08:22:04 pm
Franklin Graham comments on Facebook:

Franklin Graham
2 hrs ·

Who does President Barack Obama think he is? The sultan of Washington? Does he think he can just make a “decree” and we will bow down and simply obey? The decree he released today says that all schools across the country have to allow students to choose the restrooms and locker rooms according to “their internal sense of gender.” If schools don’t comply, he threatens loss of funding and lawsuits from the federal government. What about the privacy and protection of all the other students? Isn’t this discrimination against all of them? This opens up bathrooms to sexual predators and perverts. A decree does not carry the force of law–that's the job of Congress. The president obviously must have no fear of God, who made us and created us male and female. I hope that school districts across this nation will defy President Obama and his administration’s radical progressive agenda to promote and advance the sin of homosexuality and the LGBT agenda.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 13, 2016, 08:22:58 pm
Related:  Should Christians pull their kids out of public education? (http://www.str.org/blog/should-christians-pull-their-kids-out-of-public-education#.VzY3euQYG9g)
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bolobaby on May 13, 2016, 08:31:36 pm
Franklin Graham comments on Facebook:

Franklin Graham
2 hrs ·

Who does President Barack Obama think he is? The sultan of Washington? Does he think he can just make a “decree” and we will bow down and simply obey? The decree he released today says that all schools across the country have to allow students to choose the restrooms and locker rooms according to “their internal sense of gender.” If schools don’t comply, he threatens loss of funding and lawsuits from the federal government. What about the privacy and protection of all the other students? Isn’t this discrimination against all of them? This opens up bathrooms to sexual predators and perverts. A decree does not carry the force of law–that's the job of Congress. The president obviously must have no fear of God, who made us and created us male and female. I hope that school districts across this nation will defy President Obama and his administration’s radical progressive agenda to promote and advance the sin of homosexuality and the LGBT agenda.

States should refuse federal funding and all the damaging curriculum and anti-education/pro-social engineering rules that come with it.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 13, 2016, 08:33:41 pm
States should refuse federal funding and all the damaging curriculum and anti-education/pro-social engineering rules that come with it.
Federal interference, including No Child Left Behind and Common Core, has done nothing to improve education. Quite the contrary.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: geronl on May 13, 2016, 09:03:07 pm
There isn't anything in the dictate that says guys must pee in a bathroom, is there?  If people can pee where they want, and are comfortable, why not in a stairwell, under a desk at the library, in a closet?  If my puny brain can think like this, I will guarantee you some conduct disorder will think of it and do it.  Whether the news will cover such an event is unlikely because it would make his "order" look stupid.

NYC says public urination is now fine
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 13, 2016, 10:11:10 pm
[[NYC says public urination is now fine]]

NYC thinks the whole world is a  urinal- That, apparently, is their idea of utopia- where everything smells of urine
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: INVAR on May 13, 2016, 10:21:16 pm

It has nothing to do with Trump.

Except when he was asked about this today, Trump said he "has no opinion" about whether or not boys should use the Boys bathroom and girls should use the Girls Bathroom.  He kept repeating that the "minority must be protected" and "States should decide" yet when informed that Obama has circumvented the States and imposed it by his own will and Directives, Trump went back to sounding like a parrot.

Asked if he would reverse this decision - Trump said he has no opinion and said we should not discriminate against gender identity.

How inspiring!
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: HAPPY2BME on May 14, 2016, 04:13:53 am
http://5newsonline.com/2016/05/13/state-officials-respond-to-obama-administrations-transgender-bathroom-directive/

Posted 5:48 pm, May 13, 2016, by Shawnya Meyers

ARKANSAS (KFSM) — After President Obama and the US Department of Education issued guidance telling public schools to allow transgender students to use bathrooms matching their gender identity on Friday (May 13), several state officials shared their opinions on the directive.

Governor Asa Hutchinson responded by recommending that school districts disregard the Obama administration’s announcement.

Governor Asa Hutchinson issued the following statement:

“The recent letter from the federal government providing guidance to Arkansas schools on gender identification is offensive, intrusive and totally lacking in common sense.  There is no recognizable problem in Arkansas on this issue. The federal government is stirring the pot and meddling in the local control and administration of our schools.

“As Governor, I recommend that local school districts disregard the latest attempt at social engineering by the federal government and continue to use common sense to ensure a safe and healthy environment in Arkansas schools. While the letter implies federal money could be withheld, the letter is nothing more than guidance and is not legally binding.”

Attorney General Leslie Rutledge issued a statement in support of Governor Hutchinson:

“I stand with Governor Hutchinson in urging local districts to disregard this latest attempt from the administration to force a social agenda on the states. I will also work with my colleagues across the country to determine if legal action against this directive is necessary in order to keep our students safe.”

The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas said the governor’s call for schools to ignore the federal ruling is “dangerous and irresponsible.”

“Violation of Title IX can lead to lawsuits and possible lost funding as well as violations of students’ rights,” said Holly Dickson, legal director of Arkansas ACLU.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 14, 2016, 04:36:48 am
one more very important point i will note here- and I'm not sure I'll explain it well- but this whole edict by the pre4siident about it beign a civil rights case is nonsense- because the civil rights acts bans discrimination against gender-

Stay with me here- as it gets a bit confusing- We have laws agaisnt men in women's bathrooms- and for good reason- because it's immoral- So it is NOT discriminating against a man to pass a law barring him from using a women's bathroom-

Now- a transgender claims they are a gender that they actually are not- a man pretending to be a woman is still a man- period- no amount of surgery will change that- He still has the Male Chromosome- So it can not be discrimination against HIS gender to bar him from using a woman's bathroom be- IF however He was able to defy nature, and acquire a female Chromosome- and We passed a law saying 'previous males may not use female restrooms' then yes, this would be gender discrimination because the man would have, in this hypothetical situation, actually successfully changed his gender- and could no longer be barred from using as womans' bathroom because he would now be a true woman- that would amount to discriminating against a gender- but since men can not become females- biologically- it is NOT discrimination to bar them from using a woman's bathroom

The LAW states that men may not use women's bathrooms- period- and to the trannies out there- no amount of self mutilation or hormone therapy will change your Chromosome to that of a female- and it doesn't matter what you claim to feel like- you are still a male if you have a male chromosome- period- So no SIRS- we are not discriminating against you by barring you from using women's bathrooms- The law states no male shall use a women's bathroom- When you successfully change your chromosome to a female- let us know and we will consider a special bathroom for you all- but NOT a woman's- as you will still be an un nnatural woman
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Optiguy on May 14, 2016, 06:11:26 am
Where in the Constitution does the government have authority to mandate the use of bathrooms?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: The Jackal on May 14, 2016, 06:20:17 am
Where in the Constitution does the government have authority to mandate the use of bathrooms?

Nowhere. But I'm afraid the country has become post-constitutional in a sense. Those type of arguments fall on deaf ears to such an extent that the Constitution is ignored. So in trying to make lemonade out of lemons I use these kinds of issues to smoke out phony libertarians. A libertarian who claims to value the Constitution would be aghast at such things. Also asking them if they would repeal the Civil Rights Act and Title IX makes for a good litmus test.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: TomSea on May 14, 2016, 06:22:54 am
And a good point I heard, if one's transgender is female from male, then, what is to keep one from trying out for the girl's basketball team? It seems like nothing would.

Same thing with that woman, Rachel Dolezal who was a white woman acting like a black woman, why not choose our race then?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: The Jackal on May 14, 2016, 06:34:46 am
And a good point I heard, if one's transgender is female from male, then, what is to keep one from trying out for the girl's basketball team? It seems like nothing would.

Same thing with that woman, Rachel Dolezal who was a white woman acting like a black woman, why not choose our race then?

Exactly. Just ask Tamikka Brents, a female UFC fighter who had her eye socket crushed and was given a concussion by a male UFC fighter posing as a female.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: geronl on May 14, 2016, 07:32:14 am
Trump says he doesn't care.

The pimp and pervert does not care about grown men following little girls into the bathrooms.

I saw a news article about a man who choked an 8-year old unconscious and was caught carrying her into a stall (we can guess)... but the left would have us not be suspicious of their motives if we see them follow a child inside.

Trump doesn't care about this.

That says a lot about him.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2016, 09:50:46 am
An administration that would nationalize restrooms will nationalize just about anything, seems to me.  :pondering:
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2016, 10:56:18 am
If I self-identify as the president, can I reverse Obama's edict?
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: HAPPY2BME on May 14, 2016, 01:00:47 pm
Trump says he doesn't care.

The pimp and pervert does not care about grown men following little girls into the bathrooms.

I saw a news article about a man who choked an 8-year old unconscious and was caught carrying her into a stall (we can guess)... but the left would have us not be suspicious of their motives if we see them follow a child inside.

Trump doesn't care about this.

That says a lot about him.

============================

It's OBAMA that is forcing this on the nation.

O-B-A-M-A!!!

BTW:  Barack Hussein Obama could not have been made possible without George W. Bush.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: alicewonders on May 14, 2016, 01:17:11 pm
============================

It's OBAMA that is forcing this on the nation.

O-B-A-M-A!!!

BTW:  Barack Hussein Obama could not have been made possible without George W. Bush.

Worth repeating, thanks Happy!   :beer:
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Roscoe Proudfoot on May 14, 2016, 01:24:31 pm
And a good point I heard, if one's transgender is female from male, then, what is to keep one from trying out for the girl's basketball team?

Sigh, you are behind the times. The NCAA has already said that men can play on the women's team. They just have to undergo testosterone suppression first. Women can take testosterone treatment and still play on the men's team.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2011-09-13/new-policy-transgender-athletes
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: TomSea on May 14, 2016, 01:55:51 pm
Sigh, you are behind the times. The NCAA has already said that men can play on the women's team. They just have to undergo testosterone suppression first. Women can take testosterone treatment and still play on the men's team.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2011-09-13/new-policy-transgender-athletes

That's quite a different scenario all the same whereas the proposed law just needs a note from home stating the student identifies as the other sex.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 14, 2016, 02:55:09 pm
Refuse and Resist – Obama’s bathroom diktat.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,206478.0.html
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: don-o on May 14, 2016, 03:11:40 pm
I wonder how many pastors and priests will make mention of this tomorrow.

And let me anticipate any "separation..." objections.

If there were a rabid dog loose, the pastor has every right, indeed an obligation, to make his congregation aware of it.
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: The_Reader_David on May 14, 2016, 03:15:09 pm
Where in the Constitution does the government have authority to mandate the use of bathrooms?

Most likely in those penumbrae that contained the right to privacy and made that phrase synonymous with the phrase "right to have an abortion".
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Machiavelli on May 14, 2016, 04:39:33 pm
Schools offer lessons on accommodating transgender students

Lisa Leff
AP
May 14, 2016

Quote
From locker rooms and sex education classes to dress codes and overnight field trips, many U.S. public schools already are balancing the civil rights of transgender students with any concerns that classmates, parents and community members might have.

The U.S. Department of Education is drawing on those practices to guide other schools as they work to comply with the Obama administration's directive that transitioning children be treated consistent with their gender identity.

That has been the policy since 2013 of the Arcadia Unified School District in Southern California. As part of a settlement with the federal departments of Justice and Education that became the foundation for the national mandate issued Friday, students may use the bathroom, locker room or wilderness cabin that corresponds with their recognized gender outside school, Superintendent David Vannasdall said.
More (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f35a315f59ca4049a39ef5b8ba1aa99e/schools-offer-lessons-accommodating-transgender-students)
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: flowers on May 14, 2016, 04:45:24 pm
Geez.....makes one wonder if he is doing this now, what other monstrous things does he have planned down the road???    **nononono*
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 14, 2016, 05:23:08 pm
Geez.....makes one wonder if he is doing this now, what other monstrous things does he have planned down the road???    **nononono*
He has free rein until Jan. 29, 2017, doesn't he?  :nometalk:
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: flowers on May 14, 2016, 06:00:19 pm
He has free rein until Jan. 29, 2017, doesn't he?  :nometalk:
Yes  **nononono*
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: geronl on May 14, 2016, 06:10:25 pm
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m13/geronl/girlsroom_zpsythppeuk.jpg)

... his name was Donald...
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 14, 2016, 06:54:40 pm
[[ students may use the bathroom, locker room or wilderness cabin that corresponds with their recognized gender outside school,]]

Biologically, a student is 'recognized' as either male or female based on their chromosome- x or y - ANY other claim to gender is NOT recognized as biologically correct- period!

And again- Parents do not want their children sharing bathrooms with people of the opposite sex who are mentally sick in the head in the first place- many kids claimign to be the opposite sex are doing so because they were sexually abused and thus become abusers themselves- this is a statistical fact-- Parents do not want mentally sick males who are much stronger than females, and who have been sexually abused, and likely to become abusers themselves,  in the same bathrooms with their little girls- It is a parent's duty to do everything they can to make sure their kids are safe from PREDATORS- and allowing sick individuals with a predilection to predatory/abusive behavior into bathrooms with young girls is NOT doing everything we can to ensure our child's safety- You are INCREASING the risk that children will be attacked-

Hell- a woman was just recently arrested for allowing her children to walk by themselves to a neighborhood pool- She was arrested for endangering the welfare of a child because 'something could have happened to those children IF someone bad was in the neighborhood' How the hell is she arrested (and not the myriad other parents who also allowed their kids to walk to the pool) but we aren't arresting school officials for endangering our kids with something that is far more likely to occur? These school officials are INCREASING the risk to our children! They are Not doing everything they can to DECREASE the potential risk!

How many attacks have already happened? Well likely never know because the gov will keep it secret because they don't want their 'homosexualization of America' agenda seen in a bad light-
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 14, 2016, 07:01:58 pm
  Senator Cruz's Statement on the issue!

 “America has woken up to yet another example of President Barack Obama doing through executive fiat what he cannot get done through our democratic process. Today, he decreed that schools across the country must allow men and boys to use the restrooms, locker rooms, and shower facilities previously reserved for girls. Not only is this decree contrary to law, but it makes no sense. There is a reason that we give girls access to their own changing rooms: It is for their privacy, safety, and security. The administration’s dangerous departure from that common-sense norm must not stand.

    “Having spent many years in law enforcement, I’ve handled far too many cases of child molesters, of pedophiles, of people who abused little kids. The threats of predators are serious, and we should not facilitate allowing grown men or boys to be in bathrooms with little girls.

    “While the administration’s decree has no force of law in our constitutional system of government, the “implicit threat,” as the New York Times reported, is that public school districts who fail to toe the line will face lawsuits and the loss of federal aid. This is both legally improper and harmful to the most vulnerable among us—for what the Times failed to report is that the money the federal government sends to local school districts provides lunches for economically disadvantaged children and vital services for those most in need. So the Obama White House, for the sake of political correctness, is holding hostage the poorest, most disadvantaged children across the nation.

    “What we’ve now seen across the country, from the administration’s lawsuit against North Carolina to the superintendent of the Fort Worth Independent School District in Texas, is that common-sense needs for safety and privacy are being trumped by leftist notions of faux egalitarianism.

    “I encourage every school superintendent, school board, and parent across this nation to disregard this barely veiled threat from the White House aimed at overturning the utterly reasonable practice of preventing men and boys from entering girls’ restrooms and changing rooms.

    “As a father of young girls, I wouldn’t want my daughters being forced to change in the same room as men and boys. It’s that simple. And parents across this country shouldn’t have to tolerate it either.”

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2642
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: bob434 on May 14, 2016, 07:04:17 pm
Where in the Constitution does the government have authority to mandate the use of bathrooms?

Where? Why In the potty clause of the 13'th amendment section 8 title IV subsection 2a paragraph 7 (which was removed before it ever made it into the constitution for fear of backlash) j/k
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Charlespg on May 14, 2016, 11:01:58 pm
  (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ansA1hxbuWg/Ul9qxwFoRFI/AAAAAAAAEuc/f-LKWDUZZ9A/s1600/angry_emoticon.png)


                 MAD AS HELL

The  so called   American Civil Liberties Union has done more damage to this country then Adolf Hitler ,Tojo or Osama  ever dreamed of   
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The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas said the governor’s call for schools to ignore the federal ruling is “dangerous and irresponsible.”           No you worthless SOB's, Dangerous and irresponsible is forcing society to accept perverts and "transgender " freaks in a bathroom  not of their gender especially in schools


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“Violation of Title IX can lead to lawsuits and possible lost funding as well as violations of students’ rights,” said Holly Dickson, legal director of Arkansas ACLU.       
Being raped or molested and being forced to accept sexual deviants in the locker rooms is violation of students’ rights you dumb bitch 

When the American people and groups of  enraged family members and/or engaged victims start dragging ACLU members, SJW's  and liberal progressives and democratic politicians  and LGBT  activists who have forced this crap on society and start stringing them up from light poles and trees because  there has finally been one rape or molestation too many .I hope the police and military  will stand aside

Its bad  talk but when the so called intellectual elite come out in defense of pedophilia,its time to water Thomas Jefferson's tree
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: Charlespg on May 14, 2016, 11:04:21 pm
Where in the Constitution does the government have authority to mandate the use of bathrooms?
In the one they pulled out their ass
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: HAPPY2BME on May 17, 2016, 04:45:21 pm
(http://i2.wp.com/endoftheamericandream.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Political-Correctness-Obama-And-Kennedy.jpg?zoom=1.5&resize=331%2C395)
Title: Re: Obama to Order Public Schools to Open Restrooms to Transgender Students
Post by: mountaineer on May 17, 2016, 08:28:19 pm
In the one they pulled out their ass
Or the one they've been using to wipe said asses.  **nononono*