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Title: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: mystery-ak on August 16, 2017, 09:19:46 pm
Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
By Julia Manchester - 08/16/17 04:57 PM EDT

Fox News host Shepard Smith said Wednesday that the network tried and failed to get a Republican on-air to defend President Trump's controversial comments on violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend

"Our booking team — and they're good — reached out to Republicans of all stripes across the country today," Smith said on his show "Shepard Smith Reporting."

"Let's be honest, Republicans don't often really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn't get anyone to come and defend him here because we thought, in balance, someone should do that," he continued.

more
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346867-foxs-shepard-smith-we-couldnt-find-a-republican-willing-to-come
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: berdie on August 16, 2017, 09:32:36 pm
Shep Smith...yeah he has a history of reaching out to Repubs, lol.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Suppressed on August 16, 2017, 09:33:19 pm
I believe it.

Trump burned his political capital and showed he's dangerous to be around, unpredictable and volatile, so even now that he's right, he can't find allies.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: the_doc on August 16, 2017, 09:47:14 pm
Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump

Heck, he didn't browse TBR.  A huge percentage of Republicans would defend Trump. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Hoodat on August 16, 2017, 09:53:45 pm
Why would Trump need defending?  It's the Governor of Virginia that screwed up.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 09:56:07 pm
There is something wrong with Shemp.     He looks aidzy.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Hoodat on August 16, 2017, 10:04:45 pm
There is something wrong with Shemp.

Besides him being a liberal?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 16, 2017, 10:07:36 pm
That's odd.  I see Republican politicians defending trump all week.  Perhaps they just won't go on Shemp's show because he a jerk every time they have been on before?  Maybe?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 10:09:08 pm
Besides him being a liberal?

Maybe he had what Ailes him?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: txradioguy on August 16, 2017, 10:10:15 pm
Shemp doesn't knowledge any Republicans.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 16, 2017, 10:10:30 pm
Besides him being a liberal?
It's not just that.  He snarks at people.  Who wants to be on that shit's show?  The problem for him is he's been through every Republican out there.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: ABX on August 16, 2017, 10:48:44 pm
I believe it.

Trump burned his political capital and showed he's dangerous to be around, unpredictable and volatile, so even now that he's right, he can't find allies.

Not just this issue, it would be best for anyone to stay away from commenting or defending Trump. First of all, he is an adult (sometimes I wonder about that) and can defend himself. Secondly, he is so prone to self-sabotage and making idiotic statements, anyone defending him would end up having to defend the indefensible. Finally, he will turn on anyone in a heartbeat if he think it will be red meat for his twitter followers.

No comment is sometimes the best say to go.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:07:15 pm
Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
By Julia Manchester - 08/16/17 04:57 PM EDT

Fox News host Shepard Smith said Wednesday that the network tried and failed to get a Republican on-air to defend President Trump's controversial comments on violence in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend

"Our booking team — and they're good — reached out to Republicans of all stripes across the country today," Smith said on his show "Shepard Smith Reporting."

"Let's be honest, Republicans don't often really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn't get anyone to come and defend him here because we thought, in balance, someone should do that," he continued.

more
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/346867-foxs-shepard-smith-we-couldnt-find-a-republican-willing-to-come

Shep couldn't find a Republican in a gay bar.

The fact that Fox News has kept this slimy little worm on their staff all these years while getting rid of far better people is one reason they are heading towards the dumpster.

That being said, a lot of turncoat Republicans are getting their two minutes of fame right now, attacking Trump for being on the right side of this.

Romney, McCain, et al are shamelessly throwing their own President to the wolves to gain some kind of weird standing on this.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:08:10 pm
I believe it.

Trump burned his political capital and showed he's dangerous to be around, unpredictable and volatile, so even now that he's right, he can't find allies.

I cannot believe you are blaming Trump for this.

Wait ... maybe I can.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:13:58 pm
I cannot believe you are blaming Trump for this.

Wait ... maybe I can.

He's not blaming Trump for Charlottesville, simply pointing out that Trump has not made allies, allies that he clearly needs at times like this, and that this is Trumps own doing. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Wingnut on August 16, 2017, 11:16:05 pm
I cannot believe you are blaming Trump for this.

Wait ... maybe I can.

 888high58888

lol
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 11:17:41 pm
He's not blaming Trump for Charlottesville, simply pointing out that Trump has not made allies, allies that he clearly needs at times like this, and that this is Trumps own doing.

There is no excuse for refusing to do the right thing. The Republican Party is repugnant.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:20:27 pm
He's not blaming Trump for Charlottesville, simply pointing out that Trump has not made allies, allies that he clearly needs at times like this, and that this is Trumps own doing.

Those creepy little pols blaming Trump for this are hurting their own cause, their own party and their own country.

This is the kind of pettiness that you constantly blame Trump for.

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:21:20 pm
There is no excuse for refusing to do the right thing. The Republican Party is repugnant.

What's the right thing?  Wasn't the right thing to have forthrightly denounced the group to which the murderer belonged first, and unequivocally, and then turned to the general tenor of hate on all sides?

Coming out in full support of Trump's weenie-ish response is not the only "right" alternative.   It involves taking a lot of heat and most people won't take the heat for someone who has either already pissed on them, or who is likely to do so in the near future. 

If Trump wanted that sort of support, he should have built up the political capital necessary to afford it. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:24:10 pm
Those creepy little pols blaming Trump for this are hurting their own cause, their own party and their own country.

This is the kind of pettiness that you constantly blame Trump for.



Trump has nobody but himself to blame that he doesn't have any friends willing to take a metaphorical bullet for him. 

Trump is the sort of leader who, back in Vietnam, would have been at serious risk of fragging. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:27:32 pm
What's the right thing?  Wasn't the right thing to have forthrightly denounced the group to which the murderer belonged first, and unequivocally, and then turned to the general tenor of hate on all sides?

Coming out in full support of Trump's weenie-ish response is not the only "right" alternative.   It involves taking a lot of heat and most people won't take the heat for someone who has either already pissed on them, or who is likely to do so in the near future. 

If Trump wanted that sort of support, he should have built up the political capital necessary to afford it.

Trump's response was on target and it was brave and not at all weenie-ish, as you so elegantly call it.

He did not take the easy way out and jump on the approved group of haters but acknowledged that there are two sides.

As for the driver of the car, that is obviously horrible but hardly the first time an idiot has driven a car into people and hardly the first murder committed lately if you count the cops who have been ambushed and shot.

Trump should not have to suck up to fellow Republicans in order to expect support from them when he is right and he was right this time.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:30:58 pm
Trump has nobody but himself to blame that he doesn't have any friends willing to take a metaphorical bullet for him. 

Trump is the sort of leader who, back in Vietnam, would have been at serious risk of fragging.

You are totally off target.

Nobody needed to take a bullet for Trump.  He did nothing wrong in this case.  He was not only right but courageous, the opposite of what McCain and Romney are displaying.

You don't have to like Trump to support him when he is so clearly in the right, as he is in this instance.

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 11:32:44 pm
What's the right thing?  Wasn't the right thing to have forthrightly denounced the group to which the murderer belonged first, and unequivocally, and then turned to the general tenor of hate on all sides?

Coming out in full support of Trump's weenie-ish response is not the only "right" alternative.   It involves taking a lot of heat and most people won't take the heat for someone who has either already pissed on them, or who is likely to do so in the near future. 

If Trump wanted that sort of support, he should have built up the political capital necessary to afford it.

Two groups show up with shields and bats to knock the crap out of each other, but because someone is killed only the side that didn't suffer the casualty has guilt worthy of mention? I don't understand that logic at all.

Trump said just the right thing, the republican party is repugnant and cowardly for not backing him up.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:32:44 pm
Trump's response was on target and it was brave and not at all weenie-ish, as you so elegantly call it.

He did not take the easy way out and jump on the approved group of haters but acknowledged that there are two sides.

As for the driver of the car, that is obviously horrible but hardly the first time an idiot has driven a car into people and hardly the first murder committed lately if you count the cops who have been ambushed and shot.

Trump should not have to suck up to fellow Republicans in order to expect support from them when he is right and he was right this time.

Sucking up is not the adult's alternative to what Trump has been doing to most republicans.  Simply trying to work together and staying off twitter would have earned him goodwill.

The bottom line is this: why stick your neck out for an asinine schmuck who'll probably piss on you anyways the next chance he gets?

Loyalty is earned through hard work and merit, it isn't spoils or tribute to be demanded by a conqueror. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 11:33:42 pm
You are totally off target.

Nobody needed to take a bullet for Trump.  He did nothing wrong in this case.  He was not only right but courageous, the opposite of what McCain and Romney are displaying.

You don't have to like Trump to support him when he is so clearly in the right, as he is in this instance.

The positive is, eventually these people will pay more attention to the Antifas and they will realize that in the end, Trump did have a point.    Before this, how many people in this country had even heard of the term, "Antifa"?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:35:08 pm
Such a wonderful illustration of the vices of a cult of personality. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:38:17 pm
Sucking up is not the adult's alternative to what Trump has been doing to most republicans.  Simply trying to work together and staying off twitter would have earned him goodwill.

The bottom line is this: why stick your neck out for an asinine schmuck who'll probably piss on you anyways the next chance he gets?

Loyalty is earned through hard work and merit, it isn't spoils or tribute to be demanded by a conqueror.

This is not grade school.  If those little schmucks got their feelings hurt by Trump to the point that they cannot support him in a good cause, they have no business being in the party.

Why do you call it sticking your neck out?

To support a correct and courageous position doesn't require sticking your neck out.

You are allowing your Trump hate to cloud this issue.  You might re-think your position.

Or maybe not.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on August 16, 2017, 11:39:14 pm
I cannot believe you are blaming Trump for this.

Wait ... maybe I can.
I believe that most conservative's share a common experience.  Being called a racist when nothing could be further than the truth.  Blacks like Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, and Condoleezza Rice are our heroes.  Being undercut by the President tomorrow is also a consideration.  Who else would you blame but Trump for his lack of passionate defenders other than Richard Spenser and David Duke.  Watch for them soon on MSNBC.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: dfwgator on August 16, 2017, 11:39:35 pm
There is something wrong with Shemp.     He looks aidzy.

Maybe it's that time of the month.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:40:37 pm
Such a wonderful illustration of the vices of a cult of personality.

You keep making irrelevant posts.

Our feelings about Trump have nothing to do with this issue and you should be ashamed for automatically taking the anti-Trump side here.

And the fact that you are siding with that little worm Shep doesn't say much good about you.

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: bilo on August 16, 2017, 11:41:00 pm
There is no excuse for refusing to do the right thing. The Republican Party is repugnant.

You're right.

Pres. Trump is right about this. The Alt-left came looking for a fight and the alt-right was happy to fight them. The whole thing is a terrible mess and these extremists don't represent people who have differing views on the statues. The Pubs are cowards and immediately fall in line with the media paradigm that the alt-left are a bunch of peaceful hippy types and all conservatives are supporters of the KKK and white nationalists.

Pres Trump is not articulate, but what I do admire is he will fight.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: skeeter on August 16, 2017, 11:41:39 pm
You keep making irrelevant posts.

Our feelings about Trump have nothing to do with this issue and you should be ashamed for automatically taking the anti-Trump side here.

And the fact that you are siding with that little worm Shep doesn't say much good about you.

I read it as 'I surrender'.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 16, 2017, 11:42:51 pm
Maybe it's that time of the month.

I haven't watched him in quite a while but there was a time when he looked like he might collapse and die right on the set.

Since then, the last time I saw him he looked healthier, but he has not chosen a healthy lifestyle.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: bilo on August 16, 2017, 11:44:41 pm
Two groups show up with shields and bats to knock the crap out of each other, but because someone is killed only the side that didn't suffer the casualty has guilt worthy of mention? I don't understand that logic at all.

Trump said just the right thing, the republican party is repugnant and cowardly for not backing him up.

Oh but don't you understand? The alt-left are a bunch of touchy feely hippy types /s.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:47:19 pm
You keep making irrelevant posts.

Our feelings about Trump have nothing to do with this issue and you should be ashamed for automatically taking the anti-Trump side here.

And the fact that you are siding with that little worm Shep doesn't say much good about you.



You should be ashamed for worshipping Trump as if he were a god, and if you were to look away from your god every so often you'd realize that I don't automatically take every anti-Trump position here. 

But I guess that's too much to expect from someone who has deified another human being.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: DCPatriot on August 16, 2017, 11:51:12 pm
You keep making irrelevant posts.

Our feelings about Trump have nothing to do with this issue and you should be ashamed for automatically taking the anti-Trump side here.

And the fact that you are siding with that little worm Shep doesn't say much good about you.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:52:20 pm
Case in point. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: txradioguy on August 16, 2017, 11:56:46 pm
Case in point.

They don't seem to get it do they?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: bilo on August 16, 2017, 11:57:12 pm
Sucking up is not the adult's alternative to what Trump has been doing to most republicans.  Simply trying to work together and staying off twitter would have earned him goodwill.

The bottom line is this: why stick your neck out for an asinine schmuck who'll probably piss on you anyways the next chance he gets?

Loyalty is earned through hard work and merit, it isn't spoils or tribute to be demanded by a conqueror.

I think you're right that a lot of people who might support Pres. Trump have seen how he will turn on his supporters. I remember the HFC taking all kinds of heat over obamacare and then when the House passed their bill Pres. Trump called it "mean". It's clear Pres. Trump is not careful in his language and is not good at cultivating allies. He's more of a rough and right now kind of guy who will say anything and do anything in order to get something done. After the goal is accomplished he figures everyone will let it go and new alliances will be formed to get the next project done.

I've been in real estate most of my life. When I was doing sales I could fight another broker toe to toe and after the deal closed we just moved on. It was never, no matter what was said, don't do a deal with that person again. The career politicians and the media can't relate to this type interaction. For them everything is personal and grudges carry over.

I think what will surprise most of these people who think Pres. Trump is reprehensible is how strong his support really is. The polls are way off.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Oceander on August 16, 2017, 11:58:58 pm
They don't seem to get it do they?

Nope. 
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: DCPatriot on August 17, 2017, 12:03:54 am
I think you're right that a lot of people who might support Pres. Trump have seen how he will turn on his supporters. I remember the HFC taking all kinds of heat over obamacare and then when the House passed their bill Pres. Trump called it "mean". It's clear Pres. Trump is not careful in his language and is not good at cultivating allies. He's more of a rough and right now kind of guy who will say anything and do anything in order to get something done. After the goal is accomplished he figures everyone will let it go and new alliances will be formed to get the next project done.

I've been in real estate most of my life. When I was doing sales I could fight another broker toe to toe and after the deal closed we just moved on. It was never, no matter what was said, don't do a deal with that person again. The career politicians and the media can't relate to this type interaction. For them everything is personal and grudges carry over.

I think what will surprise most of these people who think Pres. Trump is reprehensible is how strong his support really is. The polls are way off.

Most certainly, they are. 

Furthermore, for poll purposes, who the hell is going to publicly admit to being a Trump supporter in today's climate?

That said, I'm afraid that they've got the Trump Hate Train at full throttle, and every moron over 18 will be voting anti-Trump in 2018

We're f##ked.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: bilo on August 17, 2017, 12:22:01 am
Most certainly, they are. 

Furthermore, for poll purposes, who the hell is going to publicly admit to being a Trump supporter in today's climate?

That said, I'm afraid that they've got the Trump Hate Train at full throttle, and every moron over 18 will be voting anti-Trump in 2018

We're f##ked.

Pres. Trump won't be on the ballot in 2018. The Pubs who didn't keep their promises will be. I know I won't be voting for them.

Pres. Trump is a President without a party. The weak Pub establishment supports him in name only. The conservatives in the Pub party support him, but it's been made painfully clear that they are a minority within the Pub party. I expect the Pubs to lose a lot of seats in the House and maybe pick up a third of the seats they should have in the Senate in 2018. The conversion of the Pub party into a minority party will be completed in 2020. Pres. Trump will win re-election if he decides to run.

It's a mess. The Pubs have controlled the govt. only 4x's in 100 years. They could have put any legislation in front of Pres. Trump on health care, tax reform, infrastructure, entitlement reform, immigration reform, etc. and they can't get anything done. The Pubs have made it clear they have no core values, no party discipline and should not be a majority party.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 17, 2017, 12:25:15 am
The positive is, eventually these people will pay more attention to the Antifas and they will realize that in the end, Trump did have a point.    Before this, how many people in this country had even heard of the term, "Antifa"?

@dfwgator

If something good could come out of this, it could be this.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 12:28:38 am
@dfwgator

If something good could come out of this, it could be this.

If the morons hadn't heard of "Antifa" yet, they are willingly stupid and won't be moved by it now.  Good god these people are dumb.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: TomSea on August 17, 2017, 12:37:59 am
Such a wonderful illustration of the vices of a cult of personality.

This is belittling all Trump supporters, some are concerned about National Security, some are pro-life which I believe I have seen you on more than one occasion,  :facepalm2: how cute or national security, I don't see how one is able to say such per rules here but believe it or not, as opposed to such judgements on others here, perhaps it is not these other people you diss that are shallow. Or what was that in the one thread talking about Trump? "Little shits" or something, I'm not sure if that was in regards to Trump or to whom but I did see it.  And during the election, somehow morality was posed as what you were interested in as well.

 :facepalm2:

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: TomSea on August 17, 2017, 12:40:31 am
Well, Shep, you couldn't find one but I"ve been hearing them on fox and the radio all day.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 12:59:41 am
Well, Shep, you couldn't find one but I"ve been hearing them on fox and the radio all day.

So have I.  Fact is, the best bookers in the world can't get GOP to come interview with that pr*ck.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 02:13:39 am
You should be ashamed for worshipping Trump as if he were a god, and if you were to look away from your god every so often you'd realize that I don't automatically take every anti-Trump position here. 

But I guess that's too much to expect from someone who has deified another human being.

This post is beyond un-real.  Haven't you ever read any of my posts.

I have always known Trump for what he is.  He has surprised me as President by being better than I expected.

If you don't automatically take every anti-Trump position, you have been very quiet about the pro-Trump positions because I don't remember one.  Remind me ?

This is a perfect chance to take a pro-Trump position and you have been ranting against him all day.

Kindly do not accuse me of deifying Trump because I don't agree with you.  It's classless.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 02:17:06 am
They don't seem to get it do they?

Not you too, @txradioguy   I expect that kind of stuff from @Oldeander but you usually have some degree of restraint.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on August 17, 2017, 02:41:36 am
Emjay wrote:
"Those creepy little pols blaming Trump for this are hurting their own cause, their own party and their own country.
This is the kind of pettiness that you constantly blame Trump for."


Best post in thread.
Kudos.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2017, 02:41:42 am
So have I.  Fact is, the best bookers in the world can't get GOP to come interview with that pr*ck.

He's lucky to still be walking around after the crap he pulled when he was in town here to cover an execution a few years ago!  bleep doesn't begin to cover it.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 03:02:48 am
Emjay wrote:
"Those creepy little pols blaming Trump for this are hurting their own cause, their own party and their own country.
This is the kind of pettiness that you constantly blame Trump for."


Best post in thread.
Kudos.

Thanks @Fishrrman ... that makes up for being called a dufus !!
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2017, 03:16:59 am
Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump


Shep here are facts broken down simply:

(1) Slimeball faction #1 gets a permit and demonstrates legally
(2) Slimeball faction #2 does not get a permit and does not demonstrate legally.
(3) Violence is incited by both sides
(4) DJT scolds both slime ball factions for fact 3
(5) DJT is not supported by his own party for action in response in facts 1-4.

What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 17, 2017, 03:25:13 am
He's not blaming Trump for Charlottesville, simply pointing out that Trump has not made allies, allies that he clearly needs at times like this, and that this is Trumps own doing.

 :amen:

He'll be lucky if he serves a single full term. There isn't an ounce of humility in him and all he can do is attack.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Hoodat on August 17, 2017, 04:00:39 am
What am I missing here?

The only thing you are missing is the key ingredient that allowed step 3 to occur, which was a state takeover of the situation with the emergency declaration.  Slimeball faction #1 was marched to Park B directly into the path of Slimeball faction #2.  Once Slimeball faction #1 was corralled into Park B pen, Slimeball faction #2 was allowed to set up camp at which point Slimeball faction #1 was forced into their lines by state police wearing full riot gear.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 05:18:41 am
Shep here are facts broken down simply:

(1) Slimeball faction #1 gets a permit and demonstrates legally
(2) Slimeball faction #2 does not get a permit and does not demonstrate legally.
(3) Violence is incited by both sides
(4) DJT scolds both slime ball factions for fact 3
(5) DJT is not supported by his own party for action in response in facts 1-4.

What am I missing here?


We are missing the slightest bit of intelligence and common sense from Trump's critics.

And, off topic, but I hope Trump pursues the goal of stopping this ridiculous taking down of historical statues and monuments.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 05:21:32 am
:amen:

He'll be lucky if he serves a single full term. There isn't an ounce of humility in him and all he can do is attack.

What does creating allies have to do with fairness. 

The people attacking him are just trying to make themselves look good.

Whether there is any humility in Trump or not has nothing to do with this situation.

Who did he attack?

He attacked both racists groups and rightly so.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: txradioguy on August 17, 2017, 11:31:57 am
Not you too, @txradioguy   I expect that kind of stuff from @Oldeander but you usually have some degree of restraint.

I have said since the beginning that Trump's attacks on his own party and late night twitter rants would come back to bite him in the @as at a time when he really needed a friend.

This is one of those times. That's all @Oceander was pointing out.

He's right.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: libertybele on August 17, 2017, 11:47:35 am
Last time I checked Cain was a Republican.

Herman Cain: Trump's critics can't make 'racism' claim stick

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/16/herman-cain-trumps-critics-cant-make-racism-claim-stick.html

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: txradioguy on August 17, 2017, 11:49:26 am
Last time I checked Cain was a Republican.

Herman Cain: Trump's critics can't make 'racism' claim stick

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/16/herman-cain-trumps-critics-cant-make-racism-claim-stick.html

I guess Shep didn't have any contact numbers for him.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 12:57:30 pm
I guess Shep didn't have any contact numbers for him.

I think it's safe to assume Smith was either lying about not being able to book Republicans, or he had trouble booking them because they don't like him for the same reason they have been avoiding town halls that are infiltrated with Antifa thugs.  They see Shepard Smith as just another partisan thug, so they decline invitations.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: txradioguy on August 17, 2017, 02:34:55 pm
I think it's safe to assume Smith was either lying about not being able to book Republicans, or he had trouble booking them because they don't like him for the same reason they have been avoiding town halls that are infiltrated with Antifa thugs.  They see Shepard Smith as just another partisan thug, so they decline invitations.

Either that or the reality is that he couldn't find any to come on and bash Trump...so he just altered the reason slightly.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 17, 2017, 02:37:36 pm
Either that or besides the reality is that he couldn't find any to come on and bash Trump...so he just altered the reason slightly.  :shrug:

Its certainly not inconceivable that Shep would lie. Its pretty much the same lie that Sean Hannity told about Ted Cruz.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: RetBobbyMI on August 17, 2017, 03:16:55 pm
I wouldn't defend Trump either. But that is the message the left and the fake news media wants everyone to hear.  They are just trying to coverup the anarchy they themselves are stirring up. It's a distraction!
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 17, 2017, 05:27:31 pm
I have said since the beginning that Trump's attacks on his own party and late night twitter rants would come back to bite him in the @as at a time when he really needed a friend.

This is one of those times. That's all @Oceander was pointing out.

He's right.

Oh, please.  Even if Trump had been a nicer guy, these same elements would have jumped at the chance to try to destroy him on this.

The country shouldn't have to pay for Trump's personality flaws and the people who are jumping on Trump for being perfectly fair in this situation are hardly patriots.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: the_doc on August 17, 2017, 05:44:12 pm
Oh, please.  Even if Trump had been a nicer guy, these same elements would have jumped at the chance to try to destroy him on this.

The country shouldn't have to pay for Trump's personality flaws and the people who are jumping on Trump for being perfectly fair in this situation are hardly patriots.

We are still left with the fact that Trump is a pretty crass guy, which crassness fits the false narrative of the leftists in this particular mess.  Trumps prior words make their accusations of racism seem credible to the stupid people of our electorate--which seems to includes well over half of our electorate, i.e., all of Hillary's voters and about half of Republicans.

I am hoping Trump survives this travesty of slander, but what goes around comes around.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 17, 2017, 05:49:00 pm
FWIW, CNN also said they tried to contact 55 republicans and only found one to come on the air....
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 05:53:03 pm
FWIW, CNN also said they tried to contact 55 republicans and only found one to come on the air....

I have great respect for you, but it's not worth much.  I've been checking out CNN from time to time since the weekend, and their reporting is off-the-rails.  In fact, last night their caption indicated they were discussing "Trump's off-the-rails remarks."  No Republican politician is going to sully himself going on a program with these foaming at the mouth types.  It's no-win.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on August 17, 2017, 05:56:17 pm
FWIW, CNN also said they tried to contact 55 republicans and only found one to come on the air....

CNN is famous for ambush interviews, I bet a good bunch of those 55 wouldn't go on CNN for any reason.
And Don Lemon is the slimiest f'er of them all.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 17, 2017, 05:59:35 pm
I have great respect for you, but it's not worth much.  I've been checking out CNN from time to time since the weekend, and their reporting is off-the-rails.  In fact, last night their caption indicated they were discussing "Trump's off-the-rails remarks."  No Republican politician is going to sully himself going on a program with these foaming at the mouth types.  It's no-win.

Fair enough, but Fox and CNN both are reporting the same type of scenario, where no Republicans want to go on their shows.
Why? I do not know.
Perhaps you are correct, as it could definetly be a no-win situation on CNN.
It's as good a reason as any to stay away.
If it were only CNN, but....

I find it interesting that both Fox and CNN are experiencing the same phenomenon at the same time.

Perhaps there is more to this than one reason.

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2017, 06:02:49 pm
Fair enough, but Fox and CNN both are reporting the same type of scenario, where no Republicans want to go on their shows.
Why? I do not know.
Perhaps you are correct, as it could definetly be a no-win situation on CNN.
It's as good a reason as any to stay away.
If it were only CNN, but....

I find it interesting that both Fox and CNN are experiencing the same phenomenon at the same time.

Perhaps there is more to this than one reason.


Perhaps because they are tired of being ambushed, not allowed to answer questions, talked over by the hosts, and otherwise totally disrespected!
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: RetBobbyMI on August 17, 2017, 06:06:18 pm
anyone who falls for this trump crap is also in denial that there isn't a fake news media war against Trump.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: GrouchoTex on August 17, 2017, 06:20:24 pm


Perhaps because they are tired of being ambushed, not allowed to answer questions, talked over by the hosts, and otherwise totally disrespected!

Of course, this is usually the case by the media, trying to be the headline instead of reporting it.

I think there is more to this:

An elected republican who goes on TV and agrees or disagrees with Trump, he/she angers (give or take) half the party, no matter which way he turns.
They disagree, the Trump supporters are mad. They agree, the Anti-Trump supporters are mad.
Trump is not really a unifying figure, one can just follow his tweets and figure that out.

More to gain by saying nothing than saying something.

The no-win cuts this direction,also.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 06:22:12 pm
Fair enough, but Fox and CNN both are reporting the same type of scenario, where no Republicans want to go on their shows.
Why? I do not know.
Perhaps you are correct, as it could definetly be a no-win situation on CNN.
It's as good a reason as any to stay away.
If it were only CNN, but....

I find it interesting that both Fox and CNN are experiencing the same phenomenon at the same time.

Perhaps there is more to this than one reason.

This thread has been about Shemp Smith, and he's no different than CNN.  I see plenty of GOP (politicians and operators) on other programs on FNC and FNB.  No, I think it's the foaming-at-the-mouth reporters who are responsible for Republicans staying away.  Either they're avoiding ambush interviews, or the reporters are straight-out lying about the response they're getting.  Either is plausible.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 17, 2017, 06:24:18 pm


Perhaps because they are tired of being ambushed, not allowed to answer questions, talked over by the hosts, and otherwise totally disrespected!
Of course, this is usually the case by the media, trying to be the headline instead of reporting it.

I think there is more to this:

An elected republican who goes on TV and agrees or disagrees with Trump, he/she angers (give or take) half the party, no matter which way he turns.
They disagree, the Trump supporters are mad. They agree, the Anti-Trump supporters are mad.
Trump is not really a unifying figure, one can just follow his tweets and figure that out.

More to gain by saying nothing than saying something.

The no-win cuts this direction,also.

When I read both your comments, I don't see any disagreement between the two, really.

@Bigun @GrouchoTex
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Bigun on August 17, 2017, 06:29:50 pm
When I read both your comments, I don't see any disagreement between the two, really.

@Bigun @GrouchoTex

@Cyber Liberty

I was responding to this in @GrouchoTex  original post :
Quote
Fair enough, but Fox and CNN both are reporting the same type of scenario, where no Republicans want to go on their shows.
Why? I do not know.
  I don't think there was ever any disagreement.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: goatprairie on August 18, 2017, 02:36:13 am
I think it's safe to assume Smith was either lying about not being able to book Republicans, or he had trouble booking them because they don't like him for the same reason they have been avoiding town halls that are infiltrated with Antifa thugs.  They see Shepard Smith as just another partisan thug, so they decline invitations.
Oh, I wouldn't call Shemp a thug....a hack maybe, but not a thug.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Wingnut on August 18, 2017, 02:38:24 am
Oh, I wouldn't call Shemp a thug....a hack maybe, but not a thug.

He is a plug.  Butt plug.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Bigun on August 18, 2017, 02:40:05 am
Oh, I wouldn't call Shemp a thug....a hack maybe, but not a thug.

He's a thug!  100%!  Seen him in action myself to the point that two Texas Rangers walked him to his rented car and told him that he had best head straight back to Intercontinental airport and get on the first thing moving back to New York!
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: RetBobbyMI on August 18, 2017, 02:58:41 pm
He's a thug!  100%!  Seen him in action myself to the point that two Texas Rangers walked him to his rented car and told him that he had best head straight back to Intercontinental airport and get on the first thing moving back to New York!
I hope the Rangers didn't get their boot dirty kicking his arse out of Texas.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on August 18, 2017, 03:04:19 pm
I hope the Rangers didn't get their boot dirty kicking his arse out of Texas.  :whistle:

When Shep heard Rangers were involved, he was hoping it was the Rump variety.
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Bigun on August 18, 2017, 03:07:20 pm
When Shep heard Rangers were involved, he was hoping it was the Rump variety.

In this instance he was greatly disappointed!
Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: XenaLee on August 18, 2017, 03:09:03 pm
Oh, please.  Even if Trump had been a nicer guy, these same elements would have jumped at the chance to try to destroy him on this.

The country shouldn't have to pay for Trump's personality flaws and the people who are jumping on Trump for being perfectly fair in this situation are hardly patriots.

Spot frickin on.  Look how they treated GWBush...and he was one of THE nicest guys/presidents we've ever had.  Too damned nice to the left, if you ask me.  They started out Bushbashing as soon as he announced he was running, in fact.  The demonization of the entire state of Texas began then and never stopped.

I may not always like or approve of 'how' Trump addresses the left, but I heartily approve any time he does verbally go after or address the idiot left Democrats.  Still, it is only half of what it would be if I were president.....lol.  They reeeeely wouldn't like me as their opposition in the WH.

Title: Re: Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump
Post by: Emjay on August 18, 2017, 06:02:59 pm
Spot frickin on.  Look how they treated GWBush...and he was one of THE nicest guys/presidents we've ever had.  Too damned nice to the left, if you ask me.  They started out Bushbashing as soon as he announced he was running, in fact.  The demonization of the entire state of Texas began then and never stopped.

I may not always like or approve of 'how' Trump addresses the left, but I heartily approve any time he does verbally go after or address the idiot left Democrats.  Still, it is only half of what it would be if I were president.....lol.  They reeeeely wouldn't like me as their opposition in the WH.

Let me know when you decide to run.  You have my vote.