The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on June 15, 2016, 06:39:15 pm
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/senate-trump-gop-orlando-224339
Hill Republicans despondent over Trump
Many senators are simply refusing to say anything about their presumptive nominee.
By Seung Min Kim and Burgess Everett
06/14/16 06:50 PM EDT
Senate Republicans have tried to work with Donald Trump. They’ve offered gentle advice and firm guidance, hoping he’ll morph into a general election candidate who won’t kill their chances of keeping the Senate, or better yet, will give Hillary Clinton a run for her money.
None of it has worked. And now a palpable mix of despair and resignation has permeated the Senate Republican Conference. Many lawmakers are openly frustrated, and refusing to defend the comments and actions of their own standard-bearer, the man they’ve endorsed for president.
Trump’s insinuation that President Barack Obama may be sympathetic to Islamic State terrorists was the final straw for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
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The GOP is dead
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It doesn't appear that Trump is going to let up with the conspiracies or the controversies. He's incapable of not lashing out.
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Wow. This is a surprise. Who knew Hill Republicans like the status quo more than the truth. :whistle:
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It doesn't appear that Trump is going to let up with the conspiracies or the controversies. He's incapable of not lashing out.
We may be about to elect our first floridly psychotic president.
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Time to turn despondency into action, and block Trump's nomination based on fitness for duty.
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We may be about to elect our first floridly psychotic president.
So, when did you receive your MD in Psychology?
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So, when did you receive you MD in Psychology?
People don't generally receive a doctor of medicine degree in psychology. Usually, it goes, BA/BS, sometimes an MA (or, rarely, an MS), and then a Ph.D. in psychology. I received my BA in 1981, began a Ph.D. immediately thereafter, dropped out, and eventually completed a related Masters.
But you don't need a Ph.D. in psychology to tell that someone is so obviously psychotic.
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People don't generally receive a doctor of medicine degree in psychology. Usually, it goes, BA/BS, sometimes an MA (or, rarely, an MS), and then a Ph.D. in psychology. I received my BA in 1981, began a Ph.D. immediately thereafter, dropped out, and eventually completed a related Masters.
But you don't need a Ph.D. in psychology to tell that someone is so obviously psychotic.
You're right. It's an MD in Psychiatry.
But my question remains, asked differently, are you qualified to diagnosis anyone? Or are you stating an opinion based on what you've read in the "MSM"?
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McConnell’s No. 2, Majority Whip John Cornyn of Texas, declared he is done talking about Trump until after the election — nearly five months away.
“Wish me luck,” he said.
I wish I had that kind of will power.
Meanwhile, Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.), who is also on the ballot in November, simply responded that he hadn’t seen Trump’s speech.
“I’ll go read,” Burr said as he ducked into an elevator at the Capitol.
lol
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You're right. It's an MD in Psychiatry.
But my question remains, asked differently, are you qualified to diagnosis anyone? Or are you stating an opinion based on what you've read in the "MSM"?
Oh it's pretty clear from the words that come out of the horses mouth.
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Oh it's pretty clear from the words that come out of the horses mouth.
...and his supporters ain't looking so stable these days either.
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We may be about to elect our first floridly psychotic president.
@sitetest @Right_in_Virginia @Oceander
I'm not a mental-health professional, but I have a bit of knowledge. I'd like to hear the opinion of @Quix, @Victoria33, and @austingirl, but as a layman, I'd say he's not psychotic. But I believe he very strongly exhibits Axis II Cluster B characteristics, specifically narcissistic personality disorder, and perhaps antisocial personality disorder. The more I hear from him, the more I learn of him, the more I'm convinced he would fall within the latter diagnostic criteria as well as NPD.
Strongly pathological and malignant, yes. Psychotic, no. But again, I'm a layman.
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@sitetest @Right_in_Virginia @Oceander
I'm not a mental-health professional, but I have a bit of knowledge. I'd like to hear the opinion of @Quix, @Victoria33, and @austingirl, but as a layman, I'd say he's not psychotic. But I believe he very strongly exhibits Axis II Cluster B characteristics, specifically narcissistic personality disorder, and perhaps antisocial personality disorder. The more I hear from him, the more I learn of him, the more I'm convinced he would fall within the latter diagnostic criteria as well as NPD.
Strongly pathological and malignant, yes. Psychotic, no. But again, I'm a layman.
Thanks for clarifying.
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@sitetest @Right_in_Virginia @Oceander
I'm not a mental-health professional, but I have a bit of knowledge. I'd like to hear the opinion of @Quix, @Victoria33, and @austingirl, but as a layman, I'd say he's not psychotic. But I believe he very strongly exhibits Axis II Cluster B characteristics, specifically narcissistic personality disorder, and perhaps antisocial personality disorder. The more I hear from him, the more I learn of him, the more I'm convinced he would fall within the latter diagnostic criteria as well as NPD.
Strongly pathological and malignant, yes. Psychotic, no. But again, I'm a layman.
I do not believe that Trump is psychotic. He is classic Axis II with a malignant narcissism. He cannot leave himself out of anything he says. It is even more troubling because we have a very dangerous narcissist as pResident currently. We don't need another. Trump has some overlapping characteristics of the other Cluster B diagnoses, histrionic (eye rolling and mugging during the debates,) borderline in his relationships, and also some antisocial in his shady business dealings.
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What's your diagnosis for Hillary? Cruz?
Surely, you've given them the same degree of thought.
Thanks.
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Hitlery has antisocial personality disorder as evidenced by her life-long compulsion to lie, from her shady tactics at the Watergate hearings, to acting as bagman for the Rose Law Firm, White Water, cattle futures, the WH travel office firings, stealing items from the WH, the Clinton Crime Foundation, Benghazi, secret email server, to influence peddling. She believes she is above the law. Oh yes, her bimbo eruption tactics and enabling the woman-abusing husband-in-name only, Slick Willie. She has no conscience.
Everyone has a personality with many traits; some people have negative personality traits that do not rise to the level of a disorder. Cruz does not have a personality disorder. He is highly intelligent. I have seen him being a little tone-deaf when being interviewed during the primary process when he persisted in making his point when a more astute politician would have taken the cue and moved on. He is a little dorky at times, but has a really good sense of humor. I believe he is an honest, honorable man who has been maligned and smeared during this primary season, but you already knew that.
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Time to turn despondency into action, and block Trump's nomination based on fitness for duty.
Absolutely. It's not too late. It's like we're on the Titanic and we see the iceberg. And we choose to run into it.
I see nothing to lose in blocking Trump's nomination. He'd be secretly relieved. (I think). Who knows with Trump but it would be easier on his ego than the thumping he will get if we nominate him.
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@sitetest @Right_in_Virginia @Oceander
I'm not a mental-health professional, but I have a bit of knowledge. I'd like to hear the opinion of @Quix, @Victoria33, and @austingirl, but as a layman, I'd say he's not psychotic. But I believe he very strongly exhibits Axis II Cluster B characteristics, specifically narcissistic personality disorder, and perhaps antisocial personality disorder. The more I hear from him, the more I learn of him, the more I'm convinced he would fall within the latter diagnostic criteria as well as NPD.
Strongly pathological and malignant, yes. Psychotic, no. But again, I'm a layman.
Close enough.
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Hitlery has antisocial personality disorder as evidenced by her life-long compulsion to lie, from her shady tactics at the Watergate hearings, to acting as bagman for the Rose Law Firm, White Water, cattle futures, the WH travel office firings, stealing items from the WH, the Clinton Crime Foundation, Benghazi, secret email server, to influence peddling. She believes she is above the law. Oh yes, her bimbo eruption tactics and enabling the woman-abusing husband-in-name only, Slick Willie. She has no conscience.
Everyone has a personality with many traits; some people have negative personality traits that do not rise to the level of a disorder. Cruz does not have a personality disorder. He is highly intelligent. I have seen him being a little tone-deaf when being interviewed during the primary process when he persisted in making his point when a more astute politician would have taken the cue and moved on. He is a little dorky at times, but has a really good sense of humor. I believe he is an honest, honorable man who has been maligned and smeared during this primary season, but you already knew that.
Nobody's perfect but Ted Cruz is as close as we'll ever get. It's sad that we had a chance to have him and chose the bombastic blowhard.
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Nobody's perfect but Ted Cruz is as close as we'll ever get. It's sad that we had a chance to have him and chose the bombastic blowhard.
Cruz will have a long and distinguished career. He deserves it.
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How many time have we heard this very same tune??
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So, when did you receive your MD in Psychology?
Even a Holiday Inn Express customer can tell that Trump is clinically insane.
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Even a Holiday Inn Express customer can tell that Trump is clinically insane.
Agreed, which makes the devotion of his cultists all the scarier.
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On Trump's narcissistic personality disorder and more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-narcissistic_us_5761c1e8e4b05e4be860bb20
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-neuroscientist-explains-trump-has-a-mental-disorder-that-makes-him-a-dangerous-world-leader/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/15/i-asked-psychologists-to-analyze-trump-supporters-this-is-what-i-learned/
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/03/donald_trump_and_narcissistic_personality_disorder_an_interview_with_sam_vaknin.html
http://www.inquisitr.com/2595334/clinical-psychologists-diagnose-donald-trump-and-it-isnt-pretty-especially-for-his-supporters/
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/03/trump-is-a-textbook-example-of-a-needy-narcissist.html
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/donald-trump-narcissism-therapists
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/03/23/donald-trump-elections-2016-diagnosis-narcissism-personality-disorder-column/82128174/
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Any downticket GOPer with hopes of winning in November should establish a Grand Canyon-like separation between him/herself and Trump. Aligning with that orange chunk of political Kryptonite is a sure route to defeat.
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We are suffering through the pResidency of an out-of-control narcissist right now. The damage done is stunning. Why support another narcissist this election cycle?
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Trump has some overlapping characteristics of the other Cluster B diagnoses, histrionic (eye rolling and mugging during the debates,) borderline in his relationships, and also some antisocial in his shady business dealings.
Excellent point. Definitely those HPD and BPD characteristics.
In a way, he's about the most classic example I've ever seen (as a non-professional) for Cluster B!
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We are suffering through the pResidency of an out-of-control narcissist right now. The damage done is stunning. Why support another narcissist this election cycle?
Because... as has been stated here on this forum when Trump first rode his golden elevator into the political fray.
Trump supporters want *REVENGE*. They want their own Obama to make his supporters suffer.