The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: ABX on April 28, 2016, 01:36:45 am
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...He’s willing to raise taxes. He thinks he can order military men and women to engage in ISIS-like torture methods. He is utterly unable to defend the pro-life cause. He supports ethanol subsidies. He has given money to Planned Parenthood and Obamacare-supporting Democrats. He wants to change free speech laws to make it harder for people to criticize him. He supported both the bank and auto bailouts. The list goes on and on....
...There’s only one conclusion to draw from his behavior. (After I’m done wiping the blood off the wall from my own self-inflicted injuries, that is.) He doesn’t want help from committed conservatives. He’s making no effort to court them probably because he doesn’t want them. Why else would he skip CPAC? Or so many of the other activist-driven state party conventions where delegates are selected?...
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That's alright. The rest of us, not just conservatives, have written Trump off as well in the general. He ain't gonna win, period.
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You have heard it from the Trump caucus here the past couple of days. Their answer to the leftward lurch of the past eight years is to tell those who want to push it back right that they have no say.
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You have heard it from the Trump caucus here the past couple of days. Their answer to the leftward lurch of the past eight years is to tell those who want to push it back right that they have no say.
:thumbsup:
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Wisconsin conservatives engaged in hand-to-hand warfare against the national Union/Alinsky Blue Fist leftists for three long years and .... WON!
Trump parachuted into Janesville - a decrepit old UAW union town - and trashed their efforts and success. Giving every lefty Democrat politician talking points against their Republican legislative rivals this November.
Donald Trump is a pernicious cancer to the Conservative movement. He needs to be defeated.
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...There’s only one conclusion to draw from his behavior.
:yawn2: Nearly a half million dollars contributed to the Republican party in the last decade by Trump. The cheap bastard. I'll bet Cruz and Kasich have contributed 10 times as much. :silly:
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Wisconsin conservatives engaged in hand-to-hand warfare against the national Union/Alinsky Blue Fist leftists for three long years and .... WON!
Trump parachuted into Janesville - a decrepit old UAW union town - and trashed their efforts and success. Giving every lefty Democrat politician talking points against their Republican legislative rivals this November.
Donald Trump is a pernicious cancer to the Conservative movement. He needs to be defeated.
Well said! I couldn't agree more! :beer:
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Trump will end up defeating himself if we remember to tel people that that is his One and Only Solid Plan!!
WHEN he bolts the party...not if but WHEN...he will doubtless siphon off a good number of "republican votes".
Our Mission is to ALERT WHOEVER will listen that THAT... IS... HIS ....PLAN...!
Thus armed... the average "voter" will not take kindly to being used as a cheap pawn and vote for a REAL REPUBLICAN
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Wisconsin conservatives engaged in hand-to-hand warfare against the national Union/Alinsky Blue Fist leftists for three long years and .... WON!
Trump parachuted into Janesville - a decrepit old UAW union town - and trashed their efforts and success. Giving every lefty Democrat politician talking points against their Republican legislative rivals this November.
Donald Trump is a pernicious cancer to the Conservative movement. He needs to be defeated.
He will be. The cost will be a Hillary presidency but Trumpism has to be crushed.
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Trump will end up defeating himself if we remember to tel people that that is his One and Only Solid Plan!!
WHEN he bolts the party...not if but WHEN...he will doubtless siphon off a good number of "republican votes".
Our Mission is to ALERT WHOEVER will listen that THAT... IS... HIS ....PLAN...!
Thus armed... the average "voter" will not take kindly to being used as a cheap pawn and vote for a REAL REPUBLICAN
Is that inside information you acquired after infiltrating the Trump campaign? :silly:
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That's alright. The rest of us, not just conservatives, have written Trump off as well in the general. He ain't gonna win, period.
Nah... it's just conservatives who've written off the Republican candidate who won every county in five states yesterday.
But y'all are geniuses--- so carry on.
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I guess Trump actually believes that all the Democrats who crossed over in the primaries are going to vote for him in the general instead of returning to the fold to vote for Hitlery. I'm not so sure.
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He will be. The cost will be a Hillary presidency but Trumpism has to be crushed.
Sink, thanks for admitted your real goal: a Hillary presidency.
I've new respect for you and your new found candor. :beer:
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Nah... it's just conservatives who've written off the Republican candidate who won every county in five states yesterday.
But y'all are geniuses--- so carry on.
Five states that have not chosen a Republican for President since the Reagan/Mondale landslide of '84.
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. I'm not so sure.
And that's a really good place to leave it. ^-^
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Five states that have not chosen a Republican for President since the Reagan/Mondale landslide of '84.
Exactly. Not since Ronald Reagan and his Reagan democrats. Now they're Trump democrats. 888blackhat
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I guess Trump actually believes that all the Democrats who crossed over in the primaries are going to vote for him in the general instead of returning to the fold to vote for Hitlery. I'm not so sure.
And apparently so do his followers. I don't get it!
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Exactly. Not since Ronald Reagan and his Reagan democrats. Now they're Trump democrats. 888blackhat
Until the general, when they'll be back to just plain old Democrats.
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Sink, thanks for admitted your real goal: a Hillary presidency.
I've new respect for you and your new found candor. :beer:
It will be YOUR fault for foisting this caprophagic cretin on the rest of us. We told you we would not vote for him, but you didn't listen.
Live with your choice. I'll join the 70 million Americans who will skip voting for president this year.
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Five states that have not chosen a Republican for President since the Reagan/Mondale landslide of '84.
Looks like it's time for a Republican landslide again. Send the sexual predator enabler back to Willy Jeff.
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It will be YOUR fault for foisting this caprophagic cretin on the rest of us.
I love ya, Sink.... but you're wrong. If you can't--or won't--get out of your own way and unify around the Trump nomination---a Hillary presidency will be your fault.
I am very clear on this. And so too will be millions of Americans.
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And that's a really good place to leave it. ^-^
I guess Trump actually believes that all the Democrats who crossed over in the primaries are going to vote for him in the general instead of returning to the fold to vote for Hitlery. I'm not so sure.
@right-in-Virginia
Why would you only use my partial quote? Seems less than honest.
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I love ya, Sink.... but you're wrong. If you can't--or won't--get out of your own way and unify around the Trump nomination---a Hillary presidency will be your fault.
I am very clear on this. And so too will be millions of Americans.
Nope. You and your fellow Trumpsters are not going to shove this cretinous blatherskite down our throats.
It's too late to try to "recreate" your boy. We know what he is and he is not someone who should occupy the White House.
There will be no unification. Trump can't unify. It's either his way or the highway.
Well, I'm taking the highway. And so are milions of other voters, Republican, Independent, and Democrat.
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You post many times about Hillary being an enabler, which she is and obviously wrong. :pondering: But....You don't worry that trump is an admitted sexual predator with little concerns of right or wrong. :shrug: :thud: I don't think the hypocrisy will be lost on the general electorate.
Good grief .. an admitted sexual predator .... I had know idea ... what next? I guess I shouldn't really be surprised.
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@right-in-Virginia
Why would you only use my partial quote? Seems less than honest.
Poetic license. Just cleaned up the spam.
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Good grief .. an admitted sexual predator .... I had know idea ... what next? I guess I shouldn't really be surprised.
To clarify: Trump admitted in his book The Art of the Deal to have had multiple affairs with married women, using his money and status to lure them.
That's not even to mention the crude "jokes" about his own daughters.
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Nope. You and your fellow Trumpsters are not going to shove this cretinous blatherskite down our throats.
It's too late to try to "recreate" your boy. We know what he is and he is not someone who should occupy the White House.
There will be no unification. Trump can't unify. It's either his way or the highway.
Well, I'm taking the highway. And so are milions of other voters, Republican, Independent, and Democrat.
Sweetie.... let's just agree to disagree.
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You post many times about Hillary being an enabler, which she is and obviously wrong. :pondering: But....You don't worry that trump is an admitted sexual predator with little concerns of right or wrong. :shrug: :thud: I don't think the hypocrisy will be lost on the general electorate.
Admitted? Is your allegation another example of conservative principles?
https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/video-trump-schools-nbc-anchor-for-calling-sexual-predator-bill-clintons-affair-alleged/
VIDEO Trump schools NBC anchor for calling Sexual Predator Bill Clinton’s affair ‘alleged’
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Poetic license. Just cleaned up the spam.
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No-it was dishonest to leave off my point that the crossover Democrats may well return to vote for Hitlery in the general.
And it is very premature to ask people to unite around a Trump nomination- he is not the nominee and, God willing, he won't be.
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Sweetie.... let's just agree to disagree.
Fine, toots.
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To clarify: Trump admitted in his book The Art of the Deal to have had multiple affairs with married women, using his money and status to lure them.
That's not even to mention the crude "jokes" about his own daughters.
Did his wife enable and try to destroy those with whom he had affairs? He wasn't an elected politician at the time, was he?
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Wisconsin conservatives engaged in hand-to-hand warfare against the national Union/Alinsky Blue Fist leftists for three long years and .... WON!
Trump parachuted into Janesville - a decrepit old UAW union town - and trashed their efforts and success. Giving every lefty Democrat politician talking points against their Republican legislative rivals this November.
Donald Trump is a pernicious cancer to the Conservative movement. He needs to be defeated.
BRAVO!!
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No-it was dishonest to leave off my point that the crossover Democrats may well return to vote for Hitlery in the general.
And it is very premature to ask people to unite around a Trump nomination- he is not the nominee and, God willing, he won't be.
Part of the Trump "strategy" - for whatever that is worth outside of Roger Ailes' pimp machine - is to make his nomination a fait accompli.
Nothing today is different than what it was on Monday. Nothing.
Indiana is crucial and it seems the MSM behemoth ... led by FNC ... wants Trump in this race against Hillary. Cruz vs. Hillary is BORING. Nobody is calling anyone stupid or ugly or a liar or corrupt. It'll be about conservative, Constitutional fealty vs. the most corrupt woman in U.S. history.
Hang in there. Trump won NOTHING last night except the contrived aura of inevitability that people like Ailes are trying to foist. It's powerful - less informed people think Trump won last night - but I pray Indiana conservatives are like Wisconsin conservatives and step up honorably.
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Did his wife enable and try to destroy those with whom he had affairs? He wasn't an elected politician at the time, was he?
You're not going to get very far with that line of argument. Nobody cared then, nobody cares now about Bill's affairs. If Trump tries to trot out those old nags, voters are going to wonder "Bill hit on THAT?"
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No-it was dishonest to leave off my point that the crossover Democrats may well return to vote for Hitlery in the general.
And it is very premature to ask people to unite around a Trump nomination- he is not the nominee and, God willing, he won't be.
I don't really understand why you are looking to start something with me. I edited your post down to what was germane to my point. And, yes, I will do it again.
And no, it is not premature to ask people to unite around the Trump nomination. Because God willing he will be.
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I guess Trump actually believes that all the Democrats who crossed over in the primaries are going to vote for him in the general instead of returning to the fold to vote for Hitlery. I'm not so sure.
Fat chance that the cross overs will vote for him in the general.
My guess is that they wanted him to get the nomination because he'll be so stinking easy for Hillary to beat in November, and they'll be good leftist soldiers and vote for her.
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You're not going to get very far with that line of argument. Nobody cared then, nobody cares now about Bill's affairs. If Trump tries to trot out those old nags, voters are going to wonder "Bill hit on THAT?"
That will be brought up again. The media will bring it up again. It will never go away.
https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/video-trump-schools-nbc-anchor-for-calling-sexual-predator-bill-clintons-affair-alleged/
VIDEO Trump schools NBC anchor for calling Sexual Predator Bill Clinton’s affair ‘alleged’
Posted on December 30, 2015
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He wasn't an elected politician at the time, was he?
I have often seen Trump supporters making this point as if gives him a pass.
There is an old saying that I subscribe to, "if his wife can't trust him why should I"
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Nothing today is different than what it was on Monday. Nothing.
Oh, please, Arne, catch up! These numbers (from Tuesday) do not even reflect all the delegate bound to Trump from PA..
(http://s32.postimg.org/lk0yqi99x/trump_991_delegates.jpg)
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Good grief .. an admitted sexual predator .... I had know idea ... what next? I guess I shouldn't really be surprised.
Donald Trump is absolutely just as amoral as Bill Clinton.
Actually, when you analyze it, Bill is MORE moral because he didn't dump Hillary for his latest "bimbo" like Donald did.
And Trump actually bragged about his amorality in writing. He's completely debauched.
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That will be brought up again. The media will bring it up again. It will never go away.
https://reclaimourrepublic.wordpress.com/2015/12/30/video-trump-schools-nbc-anchor-for-calling-sexual-predator-bill-clintons-affair-alleged/
VIDEO Trump schools NBC anchor for calling Sexual Predator Bill Clinton’s affair ‘alleged’
Posted on December 30, 2015
The media will not bring it up. The media is going to turn against Trump with a vengeance the minute he secures the nomination.
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Part of the Trump "strategy" - for whatever that is worth outside of Roger Ailes' pimp machine - is to make his nomination a fait accompli.
Nothing today is different than what it was on Monday. Nothing.
You're right, Cruz and Kasich were schlonged yesterday and they remain schlonged today.
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The media will not bring it up. The media is going to turn against Trump with a vengeance the minute he secures the nomination.
You're in schlonged dreamland.
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You're in schlonged dreamland.
And you're back on ignore.
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Trump Has Already Written Off Conservatives
It's official. Trump is the new Jeb Bush.
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Poetic license. Just cleaned up the spam.
No. It's dishonest.
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Nope. You and your fellow Trumpsters are not going to shove this cretinous blatherskite down our throats.
It's too late to try to "recreate" your boy. We know what he is and he is not someone who should occupy the White House.
There will be no unification. Trump can't unify. It's either his way or the highway.
Well, I'm taking the highway. And so are milions of other voters, Republican, Independent, and Democrat.
You're knocking me out with your vocabulary tonight, sink! :beer:
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Oh, please, Arne, catch up! These numbers (from Tuesday) do not even reflect all the delegate bound to Trump from PA..
(http://s32.postimg.org/lk0yqi99x/trump_991_delegates.jpg)
What is unexpected about this?
Donald Trump is very popular in states no Republican has any chance to win come November.
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Trump Has Already Written Off Conservatives
It's official. Trump is the new Jeb Bush.
Maybe Trump will choose Jebby for VP. :silly:
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You're knocking me out with your vocabulary tonight, sink! :beer:
I like "blatherskite".
Sink has the second best vocabulary for scoundrels I've read - behind only Emmett Tyrrell from old American Spectator days.
I might be wrong, but back in the way past when some of the same Trumpkin suspects were gathering pitchforks at ToS for the 2000 Pat Buchanan stalking horse ruse against W. Sink labeled them "unappeasables". Perfect.
It suits to a "T": They are not appeased by any candidate or Party or political movement or anything that requires even a modicum of compromise, co-ordination or community. It's all anger. All the time.
You can't make them happy. Don't even try. They define themselves politically by what they are against. It's never about what they are for.
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What is unexpected about this?
Donald Trump is very popular in states no Republican has any chance to win come November.
He schlonged his opposition. Indiana is next. Looking good for Trump already. (Before Cruz's rings and Bobby Knights endorsement)
Are you certain to support that person, or do you think you may change your mind and support someone else? [If don’t know: re-read question and probe for answer] 18-21 Apr 16
Certain May change (Don’t know) GOP primary voters
68% 25 7
Trump supporters 81% 17 2
Cruz supporters 70% 29 1
Kasich supporters 59% 38 2
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I like "blatherskite".
Sink has the second best vocabulary for scoundrels I've read - behind only Emmett Tyrrell from old American Spectator days.
I might be wrong, but back in the way past when some of the same Trumpkin suspects were gathering pitchforks at ToS for the 2000 Pat Buchanan stalking horse ruse against W. Sink labeled them "unappeasables". Perfect.
It suits to a "T": They are not appeased by any candidate or Party or political movement or anything that requires even a modicum of compromise, co-ordination or community. It's all anger. All the time.
You can't make them happy. Don't even try. They define themselves politically by what they are against. It's never about what they are for.
The "unappeasables" are the Cruzaders. Most Trump supporters will vote for the nominee, while the sore loser, crybaby Cruzaders stomp their little feet and clench their little fists and say they'll vote Hillary, write in or stay home. Modicum of compromise? It's Cruzader anger all the time. Make fun of Trumps looks, insult his supporters, post false allegations. How pathetic and immature.
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Maybe Trump will choose Jebby for VP. :silly:
Now THAT would be hilarious.
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The "unappeasables" are the Cruzaders. Most Trump supporters will vote for the nominee, while the sore loser, crybaby Cruzaders stomp their little feet and clench their little fists and say they'll vote Hillary, write in or stay home. Modicum of compromise? It's Cruzader anger all the time. Make fun of Trumps looks, insult his supporters, post false allegations. How pathetic and immature.
That should say something about how totally toxic Donald Trump is.
Keep in mind: if this came to a contested convention, and a compromise candidate (say, for example, Paul LePage, a Trump supporter who actually has a record making reforms in a blue state) were chosen—we'd most likely support him or her in a heartbeat.
Yet when your candidate is so bad that so many respected voices on the right see him as comparable to Hillary Clinton in his incompetence, that should be a "yuge" warning.
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Sink, thanks for admitted your real goal: a Hillary presidency.
I've new respect for you and your new found candor. :beer:
It's not a goal, it's a price we're willing to pay to defeat a greater danger.
Personally, I've made clear my antipathy to Clinton by supporting the one candidate the polls say - consistently - can defeat her. You, on the other hand, support the guy that ALL the polls say will lose in a landslide - and then turn your snarky anger at those of us who realize the futility of your little obsession, AND its inevitable consequences - a Clinton Presidency and a Democrat Congress.
Is that what YOU want? That's certainly what you're going to get if your hero gets the nomination. What is the logic of your obsession if your goal is to defeat Clinton? How dare you impugn Sink's motives, when you're the one who - by your actions - is working for the clampdown?
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Nah... it's just conservatives who've written off the Republican candidate who won every county in five states yesterday.
But y'all are geniuses--- so carry on.
Sure, trump does great in states that vote for democrats in National elections. Do you realize that Trump got FEWER votes in his home state of New York than Cruz got in Wisconsin?
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That should say something about how totally toxic Donald Trump is.
No, it says how immature and butthurt the anti-Trumps are.
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Exactly. Not since Ronald Reagan and his Reagan democrats. Now they're Trump democrats. 888blackhat
I do think Trump has to be realistic. He's constantly hawking the polls favorable to him against other primary candidates. Don't think he's mentioned that the RCP average of Trump v Sanders gives Bernie a 15+ point advantage and seems to be widening. He's better off running against Clinton who only as an 8.5 point advantage over Trump. I just haven't seen those Trump (Reagan) Democrats show up in the surveys except for the primaries. If I were a Democrat, given Trump's negatives and his polling versus Hillary or Sanders, I'd be wanting him to get the nomination too.
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You're not going to get very far with that line of argument. Nobody cared then, nobody cares now about Bill's affairs. If Trump tries to trot out those old nags, voters are going to wonder "Bill hit on THAT?"
As usual, you miss the point. It's not about Bill's sexual assaults, it's about Hillary claiming to be a champion for woman when it's a fact she tried to destroy and discredit Bill's victims.
I like how the "conservatives" here don't seem to care about any of this. All that matters to them is hating Trump and Trump supporters, country be damned.
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As usual, you miss the point. It's not about Bill's sexual assaults, it's about Hillary claiming to be a champion for woman when it's a fact she tried to destroy and discredit Bill's victims.
I like how the "conservatives" here don't seem to care about any of this. All that matters to them is hating Trump and Trump supporters, country be damned.
When so called Republicans say a Republican candidate is as bad as Hillary or worse, they are either phonies or kooks.
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When so called Republicans say a Republican candidate is as bad as Hillary or worse, they are either phonies or kooks.
Trump is neither Republican nor conservative! Never has been and never will be!
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Trump is neither Republican nor conservative! Never has been and never will be!
Your opinion is just that. Evidence doesn't support it.
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Your opinion is just that. Evidence doesn't support it.
Wow - over 3,200 posts since March 3. Does someone pay you to do this? I sure hope not - they're not getting their money's worth.
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Your opinion is just that. Evidence doesn't support it.
Except for all the evidence that does you would be right.
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Trump Has Already Written Off Conservatives
Only the 'Jihadists' among us. :laugh:
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When so called Republicans say a Republican candidate is as bad as Hillary or worse, they are either phonies or kooks.
OK, so you're one of those people who assume that a candidate is good or bad solely by the letter after his name.
Anyone can call themselves a Republican.
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I like "blatherskite".
Sink has the second best vocabulary for scoundrels I've read - behind only Emmett Tyrrell from old American Spectator days.
I might be wrong, but back in the way past when some of the same Trumpkin suspects were gathering pitchforks at ToS for the 2000 Pat Buchanan stalking horse ruse against W. Sink labeled them "unappeasables". Perfect.
It suits to a "T": They are not appeased by any candidate or Party or political movement or anything that requires even a modicum of compromise, co-ordination or community. It's all anger. All the time.
You can't make them happy. Don't even try. They define themselves politically by what they are against. It's never about what they are for.
Blatherskite is a beautiful word! (And SO apropos!)
One thing I've noticed about this particular brand of "unappeasables" is that even when they're getting their way, and Trump is ahead or winning, they are deeply angry and spiteful. It's not a sign of normal human behavior, IMO. There's something wrong there.......
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Exactly. Not since Ronald Reagan and his Reagan democrats. Now they're Trump democrats. 888blackhat
but Trump is a leftist, unlike Reagan
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but Trump is a leftist, unlike Reagan
Edward Rollins, who managed Reagan's reelection campaign (the one where he won 49 states) spoke at a dinner around here, and talked about how good and kind and loving Ronald Reagan was; what a great conservative thinker he was (long before he was President), how honest he was....
Donald Trump is the ANTI-Reagan. Any comparison between the two is simply preposterous.
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Trump is neither Republican nor conservative! Never has been and never will be!
He's what Democrats think is the essence of conservatism...
... and 35-40% of GOP primary voters think that he *IS* the essence of conservatism.
The GOP tribal voter, who only votes GOP because it's his/her team... is, in my opinion, his support. That's going to cement the Democrat image of the GOP in the minds of the independent voter, courtesy of our own 'confirming' it.
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He's what Democrats think is the essence of conservatism...
... and 35-40% of GOP primary voters think that he *IS* the essence of conservatism.
The GOP tribal voter, who only votes GOP because it's his/her team... is, in my opinion, his support. That's going to cement the Democrat image of the GOP in the minds of the independent voter, courtesy of our own 'confirming' it.
That is a VERY astute observation. :beer:
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He's what Democrats think is the essence of conservatism...
... and 35-40% of GOP primary voters think that he *IS* the essence of conservatism.
The GOP tribal voter, who only votes GOP because it's his/her team... is, in my opinion, his support. That's going to cement the Democrat image of the GOP in the minds of the independent voter, courtesy of our own 'confirming' it.
I'm convinced that part of his effort to destroy conservatism was his saying and being all the ugly things that the left lies about to convince others that we're monsters.
Unfortunately, his success has proven that there are far too many among us who actually are the ugly things the left says about us.
It's a sad day for us.............