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Title: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: sinkspur on March 15, 2016, 01:10:53 am
Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years

By HANNA TRUDO 03/14/16 09:02 PM EDT

Ben Carson said on Monday that even if Donald Trump turned out to be a lousy president, he’ll only be in office for four years.

"Even if Donald Trump turns out not to be such a great president, which I don't think is the case, I think he's going to surround himself with really good people, but even if he didn't, we're only looking at four years as opposed to multiple generations and perhaps the loss of the American dream forever," Carson told Newsmax's Steve Malzberg.

The former Republican presidential contender and retired pediatric neurosurgeon did not elaborate when asked about a potential role in a Trump administration, other than to say that he would be "doing things" in an “advisory capacity.”

"We haven't hammered out all the details," Carson said when pressed on whether he had been promised a Cabinet post or something else. "I'm not going to reveal any details about it right now because all of this is still very liquid.


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Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: sinkspur on March 15, 2016, 01:12:23 am
You can tell Car$on love$ Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 15, 2016, 01:37:31 am
Wow. What a ringing endorsement.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: libertybele on March 15, 2016, 01:59:52 am
You can tell Car$on love$ Donald Trump.

The more I listen to Carson, the more I wonder if he's all there.  Only 4 years?  Hate to tell you bud, but we can't afford, nor will we survive another mistake for 4 years.    :thud:
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 15, 2016, 02:35:11 am
The more I listen to Carson, the more I wonder if he's all there.  Only 4 years?  Hate to tell you bud, but we can't afford, nor will we survive another mistake for 4 years.    :thud:

So true.  Good thing Carson didn't make it too far.  I think that if you endorse a person that you would whole heartedly believe in them.  Its your name.  How shameful.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Free Vulcan on March 15, 2016, 05:12:58 am
This is the second thing Carson has said since endorsing Trump that would make you want to not vote for Trump. He's almost like a trojan horse.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 05:29:42 am
This is what some conservative anti-McCain voters said about Obama.  Plus, they said, it will teach the GOP a lesson.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 15, 2016, 05:53:08 am
This election season is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 06:13:38 am
This election season is a nightmare.

As opposed to 2008 or 2012? 
I hear you though.  I took a couple weeks off to collect myself, yet I find I am just as angry upon my return.  However, I am delighted to say I have read a few of your posts and I look forward to reading more.  I love your posting name and it's anagram.  Welcome.  :beer:
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 06:15:18 am
Hanna Trudo, what a pig.



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Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 15, 2016, 06:16:01 am
This is the second thing Carson has said since endorsing Trump that would make you want to not vote for Trump. He's almost like a trojan horse.

A person has to say what?

Ben Carson: I Didn’t Want To Endorse Trump, But He Promised Me A Job

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/14/ben-carson-trump-promised-place-administration/

Read the comments.  Someone suggested that it is illegal.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 15, 2016, 06:22:03 am
A person has to say what?

Ben Carson: I Didn’t Want To Endorse Trump, But He Promised Me A Job

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/14/ben-carson-trump-promised-place-administration/

Read the comments.  Someone suggested that it is illegal.

It may not be illegal, but it sure is inside the Beltway, business as usual, Crony Capitalism that the Trump folks abhor. Is this the way a Trump administration will play out? I guess all the "great people" Trump keeps citing that he will surround himself will have something in common.....they can be bought for the right price.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 06:24:55 am
A person has to say what?

Ben Carson: I Didn’t Want To Endorse Trump, But He Promised Me A Job

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/14/ben-carson-trump-promised-place-administration/

Read the comments.  Someone suggested that it is illegal.
A felony.  Trump should talk to his good buddy Rod Blagojevich about that.

Meet the new boss.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 15, 2016, 06:25:25 am
It may not be illegal, but it sure is inside the Beltway, business as usual, Crony Capitalism that the Trump folks abhor. Is this the way a Trump administration will play out? I guess all the "great people" Trump keeps citing that he will surround himself will have something in common.....they can be bought for the right price.

Nailed it!
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 06:27:11 am
A person has to say what?

Ben Carson: I Didn’t Want To Endorse Trump, But He Promised Me A Job

http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/03/14/ben-carson-trump-promised-place-administration/

Read the comments.  Someone suggested that it is illegal.

An advisory position? The horrors!
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 15, 2016, 06:30:58 am
An advisory position? The horrors!

What do you think Cabinet posts are?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 06:35:05 am
What do you think Cabinet posts are?

They are called Cabinet posts for a reason. An advisory position could be anything from a financial, fitness or medical advisor. Desperation is so obvious among the anti-Trump crowd.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Frank Cannon on March 15, 2016, 06:38:03 am
They are called Cabinet posts for a reason. An advisory position could be anything from a financial, fitness or medical advisor. Desperation is so obvious among the anti-Trump crowd.

Do you think bribing someone for their endorsement is good or bad?

BTW, the Presidents Cabinet IS his set of advisers.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 15, 2016, 06:45:22 am
It's not just the bribery it's that Ben Carson is a fool with terrible judgement.

Who is this assclown to be advising anyone? The man who was scammed by his own campaign?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 06:55:49 am
Do you think bribing someone for their endorsement is good or bad?

BTW, the Presidents Cabinet IS his set of advisers.

Did Carson state that Trump promised him a Cabinet position? Yes or no?????

Bribe? You have to have physical proof. What has changed hands? If someone  offers  you money for helping them, is that a bribe? Is a political party contribution a bribe?

Desperation, grasping at straws isn't very attractive.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 06:59:35 am
What does it matter who Hanna Trudo is, did you not hear Carson talking about receiving a position in a Trump administration?  What does Hanna
have to do with this thread and the Carson audio?

What position did he mention?

By HANNA TRUDO 03/14/16 09:02 PM EDT  Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: EasyAce on March 15, 2016, 07:04:34 am
This is what some conservative anti-McCain voters said about Obama.  Plus, they said, it will teach the GOP a lesson.

There were conservative anti-Bush voters who said the same thing about Bill Clinton, too.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 07:23:35 am
Please don't try to cute with words, it was very clear he would be receiving some position in a Trump administration, cabinet advisory or who knows. I am not concerned as there is no chance there would ever be a Trump administration.

I deal in facts, not fantasy and speculation. The anti-Trumpers say  words have meanings.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 07:56:53 am
Good to see you back Once-Ler
Thank you sir.  I am in a foul mood, and despondent about tomorrow's primaries, but it is nice to share my despair with elite posters of character, refinement, and quality....and also you.

You know I'm just kidding...
I have nothing but admiration for your posts.
Even if you are too damn serious in these serious times. 

Get some sleep tonight my friend.  Tomorrow is a big day.

I need you to vote 40 or 50 times, in multiple locations...or if that is too much to ask...beat down some skin heads.

I once took on 6 skinheads at the same time...sadly they were all cancer patients from the local hospital...but that still counts, right?

 



Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 08:00:40 am
Carson: I will be doing things as well, yeah.

Malzberg: In the administration.

Carson: Certainly in an advisory capacity.

Malzberg: That’s been determined? You’ve, when you sat down with him that was discussed?

Carson: Yes.

"We haven't hammered out all the details," Carson said when pressed on whether he had been promised a Cabinet post or something else. "I'm not going to reveal any details about it right now because all of this is still very liquid."


No speculation or fantasy there, when discussing Carson's endorsement they discussed a position for Carson.

They discussed a position   "I'm not going to reveal any details about it right now because all of this is still very liquid."

Sorry, I'm unable to draw a concrete conclusion from something so  fluent. Where is there evidence of bribery?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 15, 2016, 08:06:07 am
Why do you add the word bribery?

It's called a strawman fallacy.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 08:11:15 am
Why do you add the word bribery?  I have never used the word bribery, just that positions for Carson were discussed while trying to get Carson's endorsement.

It was discussed on page 1 of this thread. You were posting while it was brought up by FC. How could you miss it?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 08:13:06 am
It's called a strawman fallacy.

Read the thread before making ignorant comments. Thanks.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 08:36:38 am
There were conservative anti-Bush voters who said the same thing about Bill Clinton, too.

Excellent point.  I often gloss over the AK rapists years in the White House because the economy excuses Presidential rape for many.  Looks like you expect more from your President than "he won't cost me my job."

I suppose you think a President shouldn't engage in child prostitution with Jeffrey Epstein either. Well all I can say is a man has needs, and if a President needs a couple  13 year old asian girls to sandwich between so he can create a vibrant economy...who am I to judge.

It is not rape if it costs over $1,000 for every year under 18.  amiright?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 08:37:42 am
Read the thread before making ignorant comments. Thanks.
Do as I say, not as I do, huh?
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 08:43:06 am
Do as I say, not as I do, huh?

Apparently I'm the only one who has read this thread. I assumed  the posters here were actually interested enough in a subject thread to at least scan the posts. My bad.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 15, 2016, 08:55:19 am
Apparently I'm the only one who has read this thread. I assumed  the posters here were actually interested enough in a subject thread to at least scan the posts. My bad.
Apparently you're the only one who has read this thread, and came away with your conclusion.  It must be that everyone, except you, is an idiot.  We are so lucky you are here to admonish us.  Thanx A-Lert.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 09:07:56 am
Apparently you're the only one who has read this thread, and came away with your conclusion.  It must be that everyone, except you, is an idiot.  We are so lucky you are here to admonish us.  Thanx A-Lert.

Glad I could be of assistance.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: EasyAce on March 15, 2016, 05:47:06 pm
Excellent point.  I often gloss over the AK rapists years in the White House because the economy excuses Presidential rape for many.  Looks like you expect more from your President than "he won't cost me my job."

It's been a painfully long time since I expected anything from any office holder or office
aspirant. I have long considered the State (anyone who thinks we have a properly-construed
government is talking through his or her chapeau) to be the nation's largest organised
crime family, and nothing among the current presidential aspirants tells me that they have
even a drop of thought toward doing something, anything, to change that status even to a
single, tiny degree.

From all appearances we're heading for a November contest between a crooked politician
and a purchaser of politicians crooked or otherwise, neither of whom seems to have any
interest other than the further metastasis of State power for her or his own particular
purposes.

But as Edward R. Murrow once observed wryly (commenting on the 1948 elections for
the spoken-word series of records, I Can Hear It Now), it can't hurt to watch the
campaign, anyhow. Especially if you have a bent toward absurdist humour. Even if the
main attractions are about as funny as a screen door on a submarine.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: GAJohnnie on March 15, 2016, 06:19:48 pm
Well another example of the habitual lying in the "Conservative" media these days. Take the comment put your own ridiculous spin on it is now a "Conservative" value just like the Drive By Media.

Helps to read the actual quote


"Even if Donald Trump turns out not to be such a great president, which I don't think is the case, I think he's going to surround himself with really good people, but even if he didn't, we're only looking at four years as opposed to multiple generations and perhaps the loss of the American dream forever," Carson told Newsmax's Steve Malzberg.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Carling on March 15, 2016, 06:28:28 pm
Well another example of the habitual lying in the "Conservative" media these days. Take the comment put your own ridiculous spin on it is now a "Conservative" value just like the Drive By Media.

Helps to read the actual quote


"Even if Donald Trump turns out not to be such a great president, which I don't think is the case, I think he's going to surround himself with really good people, but even if he didn't, we're only looking at four years as opposed to multiple generations and perhaps the loss of the American dream forever," Carson told Newsmax's Steve Malzberg.

The line between the GOProg media and the liberal leftist media is basically erased at this point.

Also, are people dumb enough to think that all other politicians don't offer advisory roles for endorsements, and that it's unique to Trump?  If so, wow, that's just so stupid I can't even fathom it being the case, so I have to assume this is just the latest GOProg hypocritical "outrage" toward Trump.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: GAJohnnie on March 15, 2016, 06:31:21 pm
You can smell the panic and desperation wafting off the "Conservative" media these days.

Really stupid tactics. Elections end, professional reputations as habitual liars will go on and on and on and on and on.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Carling on March 15, 2016, 06:35:13 pm
You can smell the panic and desperation wafting off the "Conservative" media these days.

Really stupid tactics. Elections end, professional reputations as habitual liars will go on and on and on and on and on.

The GOProg media is one thing, but to see otherwise reasonable posters continually post half-truths or outright lies and be outraged about them has been very depressing for me.  The Republican party is forever fractured and I think all hell will break loose in Cleveland, which will lead to a real third party that is fiscally and national security conservative while being more moderate on social issues such as homosexuality and abortion. 
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 15, 2016, 07:27:59 pm
a real third party that is fiscally and national security conservative while being more moderate on social issues such as homosexuality and abortion.

See, I'd be in favor of this. Also needs to control the border.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Jazzhead on March 15, 2016, 07:39:36 pm
  The Republican party is forever fractured and I think all hell will break loose in Cleveland, which will lead to a real third party that is fiscally and national security conservative while being more moderate on social issues such as homosexuality and abortion.

I'm counting on all hell breaking loose in Cleveland, but that doesn't mean the GOP is forever fractured.  Trumpism is a cult of personality, which will fade once Trump is crushed and humiliated (hopefully at the convention, certainly in November).   While it's possible that white nationalism/xenophobia could well find a permanent voice in the form of  a third party, a la the National Front,  limited-government conservatism will rise again once the cancer is excised.  It may be out of power for a while, but it will rise again.   
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Carling on March 15, 2016, 07:51:15 pm
I'm counting on all hell breaking loose in Cleveland, but that doesn't mean the GOP is forever fractured.  Trumpism is a cult of personality, which will fade once Trump is crushed and humiliated (hopefully at the convention, certainly in November).   While it's possible that white nationalism/xenophobia could well find a permanent voice in the form of  a third party, a la the National Front,  limited-government conservatism will rise again once the cancer is excised.  It may be out of power for a while, but it will rise again.   

You are so out of touch with the reality of how formerly staunch GOPe voters like me have been alienated from the party that it's almost funny, but mostly sad.

You're pushing a gun-grabbing candidate who wants amnesty, and who says he should have run in the Democrat primaries and meant it.  A candidate who says he wants nothing to do with Trump, so why should I want anything to do with Kasich and his GOProg masters?

Buh bye.  I'll never associate myself after the convention with any party that has you as a member.  Calling people racists for supporting Trump is just infantile and requires zero debating skills other than acting just like a liberal.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: Carling on March 15, 2016, 08:04:48 pm
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Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years

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Ben Carson said on Monday that even if Donald Trump turned out to be a lousy president

What Ben Carson actually said, liberal writer's own words aside:

Quote
"Even if Donald Trump turns out not to be such a great president, which I don't think is the case, I think he's going to surround himself with really good people, but even if he didn't, we're only looking at four years as opposed to multiple generations and perhaps the loss of the American dream forever," Carson told Newsmax's Steve Malzberg.

How does one change "not such a great" into "bad" or "lousy?"  I know how, because they are dishonest and have an agenda as a writer.

sinkspur is now basically a liberal media mouthpiece for anything anti-Trump, truthful or dishonest.
Title: Re: Ben Carson: Even if Trump's a bad president, it'll only be 4 years
Post by: A-Lert on March 15, 2016, 08:22:37 pm
All of those who believe Donald Trump wants to fail at anything are just attempting to fool themselves. The guy is obsessed with succeeding. I believe he'll outwork and accomplish more than any candidate since Reagan.