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« Reply #200 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:46 pm »
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« Reply #201 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:47 pm »
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« Reply #202 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:48 pm »
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« Reply #203 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:49 pm »
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« Reply #204 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:50 pm »
I will post more such videos as they come up.  tipping hat!!
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« Reply #205 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 12:54 pm »
I will post more such videos as they come up.  tipping hat!!

Thank you... :)

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« Reply #206 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 01:44 pm »
@DCPatriot  this could be you...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHwxV0Sd9V8

I would simply apply for a 'new' license plate...a handicapped one with no zeroes or "O's" on it.

Then hire a lawyer and sue the FLOCK company's a$$ off!
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« Reply #207 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 01:48 pm »
I would simply apply for a 'new' license plate...a handicapped one with no zeroes or "O's" on it.

Then hire a lawyer and sue the FLOCK company's a$$ off!


Exactly. If the product has issues like this, they need to address them.

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« Reply #208 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 01:57 pm »
I would simply apply for a 'new' license plate...a handicapped one with no zeroes or "O's" on it.

Then hire a lawyer and sue the FLOCK company's a$$ off!


Applying for a new license plate takes time. Time you do not have when a cluster of trigger happy and chickenshit cops are aiming their guns at you and making you play impossible games of "Simon Says" so they can justify beating you or killing you...in the name of officer safety, of course.  *****rollingeyes*****

Simon Says in a police stop happens when you get stopped and the cops aim guns at you screaming "SHOW ME YOUR F***ING HANDS!!!" before they tell you to get out of your car. Then when you go to undo your seatbelt they can open fire on you because you were reaching for something.

Just like they told you to do.  888high58888

And if you keep your hands out the window instead of undoing your seatbelt and maybe getting shot (video below) then they arrest you for resisting arrest and obstruction.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/black-man-stopped-for-seat-belt-violation-shot-indiscriminately-by-chicago-cops/videoshow/109219265.cms

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« Reply #209 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 02:02 pm »
Exactly. If the product has issues like this, they need to address them.

It isn't the product that's carrying out all the wrongful arrests, the deadly traffic stops, and the raids on the homes of innocent people.

It isn't the product that stalks ex-wives and ex-girlfriends by abusing the data.

It isn't the product that uses the data to retaliate against people who file complaints against the police.

Granted, I do not like the notion of a nationwide surveillance system. But if the cops would uphold their oaths to defend and protect the Constitution then having Flock cameras wouldn't matter.

Most of these cops can't articulate the key rights and amendments that impact their daily work.

Myself, I think the cops need to be evaluated on their comprehension of the Constitution and if they can't manage that then they need to find another line of work. Elsewise their first crime as a cop is perjury when then lie on their oath.
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« Reply #210 on: Wednesday, Sep 30, 2026 04:26 pm »
Applying for a new license plate takes time. Time you do not have when a cluster of trigger happy and chickenshit cops are aiming their guns at you and making you play impossible games of "Simon Says" so they can justify beating you or killing you...in the name of officer safety, of course.  *****rollingeyes*****

Simon Says in a police stop happens when you get stopped and the cops aim guns at you screaming "SHOW ME YOUR F***ING HANDS!!!" before they tell you to get out of your car. Then when you go to undo your seatbelt they can open fire on you because you were reaching for something.

Just like they told you to do.  888high58888

And if you keep your hands out the window instead of undoing your seatbelt and maybe getting shot (video below) then they arrest you for resisting arrest and obstruction.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/black-man-stopped-for-seat-belt-violation-shot-indiscriminately-by-chicago-cops/videoshow/109219265.cms

You know what??  You need to change your name to "Karen C"...a total pain-in-the arse!   :laugh:
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« Reply #211 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 03:11 am »
You know what??  You need to change your name to "Karen C"...a total pain-in-the arse!   :laugh:
Is this your less than polite way of saying she and the rest of us are 100% correct and you just don't want to come right out and admit it?
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« Reply #212 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 04:29 am »
Is this your less than polite way of saying she and the rest of us are 100% correct and you just don't want to come right out and admit it?

I'm clearly saying that virtually no systems are fool-proof and subject to abuse.  Deal with the abusers as I've posted numerous times on this thread.

Instead, you all continue to live in a fantasy world, while I'm in the pragmatic world.

Have a blessed day, sir!   :patriot:


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« Reply #213 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 04:35 am »
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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« Reply #214 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 05:03 am »
I'm clearly saying that virtually no systems are fool-proof and subject to abuse.  Deal with the abusers as I've posted numerous times on this thread.

Instead, you all continue to live in a fantasy world, while I'm in the pragmatic world.

Have a blessed day, sir!   :patriot:

And we are saying that there is already way too much surveillance and we don't see a need to add to the amount of information that various agencies have.
Yes the genie is out of the bottle and we can't put it back, but we don't have to give them completely free rein.
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« Reply #215 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 05:35 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBnNH_bSrgc

If this kind of thing is more frequent due to the camera system, including the 0-o thing, then perhaps training should be adjusted.

Instead of approaching suspected egregious-criminal cars with guns drawn and aimed, instead just have them at the ready and proceed as with a normal traffic stop.
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« Reply #216 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 05:42 am »
And we are saying that there is already way too much surveillance and we don't see a need to add to the amount of information that various agencies have.
Yes the genie is out of the bottle and we can't put it back, but we don't have to give them completely free rein.

I've said essentially that. 

Severely punish those that have access and abuse the important tool.

Nobody cares where or how you drive your car.  But we sure as heck care if alerts show that there is an outstanding warrant tied to the specific plate number.

PS:  If I were a law enforcement officer pulling over a vehicle with an outstanding warrant involving a charge of violence or weapons used in same...I'm not approaching the driver's window with my weapon strapped in my holster.
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« Reply #217 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 06:44 am »
   The only thing worse than having a private corporation overseeing that data is having an unregulated Government entity controlling that demon.

   Too bad we have a do-nothing Congress.
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« Reply #218 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 09:29 am »
I'm clearly saying that virtually no systems are fool-proof and subject to abuse.  Deal with the abusers as I've posted numerous times on this thread.

Instead, you all continue to live in a fantasy world, while I'm in the pragmatic world.

Have a blessed day, sir!   :patriot:


The abusers are cops. And if you report the abuse to the cops then those same cops might  investigate themselves and then over 95% of the time they say they did nothing wrong.

You sir, live in a fantasy world where cops resemble Andy Griffith.

That kind of policing ended fifty years ago.
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« Reply #219 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 09:33 am »
You know what??  You need to change your name to "Karen C"...a total pain-in-the arse!   :laugh:

I'm giving you actual facts to try to dissuade you from an untenable position and your response is to resort to schoolyard epithets?

You're acting like a Democrat.
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« Reply #220 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 09:36 am »


PS:  If I were a law enforcement officer pulling over a vehicle with an outstanding warrant involving a charge of violence or weapons used in same...I'm not approaching the driver's window with my weapon strapped in my holster.

Remember this when you are in the car that gets mistakenly stopped by cops who aim their weapons at you.
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« Reply #221 on: Thursday, Oct 01, 2026 08:07 pm »
Remember this when you are in the car that gets mistakenly stopped by cops who aim their weapons at you.

One of the cornerstones of the American legal system is Blackstone’s Formulation. Sometimes known as the Blackstone Ratio, it is about the balance between protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty. His original quote is...

“It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.”

In the modern world it could be better quoted as...

“It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent be shot to death".

Fact is... In current times Law Enforcement officers are given the authority to be Judge, Jury, and Executioner if they wish. When you add in the fact that they might be acting on very unreliable evidence from an " Expert Digital eye witness" it is a recipe for disaster.

There are no "Acceptable losses" of the innocent... Yet we are being brainwashed into allowing acceptable losses to be normal "For the better of the whole".




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« Reply #222 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 02:02 am »
If this kind of thing is more frequent due to the camera system, including the 0-o thing, then perhaps training should be adjusted.

Instead of approaching suspected egregious-criminal cars with guns drawn and aimed, instead just have them at the ready and proceed as with a normal traffic stop.

There's clearly a nationwide problem with the police training itself, and it goes back to the Darryl Gates "War on Drugs" days, in which cops (many with military service and even combat deployments) are taught that "officer safety" is paramount, that the general public is their enemy, and to treat EVERY encounter as potentially hostile, like the entire country is outside the Green Zone in Baghdad.  Note that whenever cops get caught doing bad things, and are investigating themselves, their first line of defense is that they "followed their training" and "department policies."

THAT's the problem, along with the bad cops themselves!

Civil Rights attorneys John Bryan, James White, Jeff Hampton, and few others have countless videos on their Youtube channels showing how prevelant this problem is, and why the law enforcement legal fabric of this country has broken down.
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« Reply #223 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 05:12 am »
There's clearly a nationwide problem with the police training itself, and it goes back to the Darryl Gates "War on Drugs" days, in which cops (many with military service and even combat deployments) are taught that "officer safety" is paramount, that the general public is their enemy, and to treat EVERY encounter as potentially hostile, like the entire country is outside the Green Zone in Baghdad.  Note that whenever cops get caught doing bad things, and are investigating themselves, their first line of defense is that they "followed their training" and "department policies."

THAT's the problem, along with the bad cops themselves!

Civil Rights attorneys John Bryan, James White, Jeff Hampton, and few others have countless videos on their Youtube channels showing how prevelant this problem is, and why the law enforcement legal fabric of this country has broken down.

Absolutely. Along with the fact that a badge is a license to lie and deceive and they are actually trained to do this accordingly. Yet if you lie to an officer he can charge you with a crime.

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« Reply #224 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 05:15 am »
Please stay on topic...
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« Reply #225 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 12:10 pm »
Please stay on topic...

With all respect gracious host, is not the credibility of those who use the tool just as important as the tool itself? :)

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« Reply #226 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 12:42 pm »
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« Reply #227 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 12:44 pm »
Please stay on topic...

Respectfully, the discussion of police vis-a-vis Flock camera abuse is on topic.


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« Reply #228 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 12:45 pm »
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« Reply #229 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 12:45 pm »
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« Reply #230 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 01:03 pm »
Real Reasons Gun Owners Should Be Worried About Flock
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Technology can be a wonderful thing, but the problem with tech is that engineers are often so preoccupied with whether they could, they don't stop to ask if they should. Yeah, that was paraphrased from a bit about scientists in Jurassic Park, but the real monsters we have today are things like Flock cameras.


The increasing prevalence of surveillance cameras, especially the automated license plate readers operated by Flock Safety and its competitors, has raised privacy concerns across the country. The concern is not limited to gun owners, but many are particularly worried about cameras at gun ranges and gun shops that have the potential to track them specifically–possibly even to create de facto registries of gun owners.

The cameras don’t only record license plates, notes Taylor Rhodes, executive director and vice president of the National Association for Gun Rights. “They log make, color, body type, any accessories you have on your vehicle…it tracks bumper stickers,” he told The Reload. “How many gun group stickers are on the back of cars? How many Glock stickers are on trucks?”

“The state can ask for everyone who has been to this shooting range, this gun store,” he said, and then “they have a de facto list of gun owners.”


Flock Safety, which advertises its license plate readers in conjunction with gunshot detection devices, did not respond to The Reload‘s request for comment on the use of its cameras at shooting ranges or gun stores, but Central Florida has become a recent hotspot in the debate over the practice. There, residents outraged by Flock cameras at the entrance to an Ocala shooting range took to social media in protest. Someone apparently took things a step further by vandalizing the cameras, the vestiges of which were later removed.

The state Commission on Fish and Wildlife operates the public range on federal forest land. The agency did not respond to The Reload‘s requests for comment on why the cameras were installed or removed, but confirmed to the Daytona Beach News-Journal that it was investigating the vandalism. Residents have also posted video of cameras at a range operated by the agency in Osceola, where they reported someone also removed the Flock cameras.

“At the gun range the only thing they can track is gun owners, that driveway goes nowhere else,” Patrick McGeehan, a Daytona Beach criminal defense attorney and former homicide detective for the Miami-Dade Sheriff’s Office, told The Reload. He is one of the residents who first posted about the presence and destruction of the cameras at the Ocala gun range.

“I want to know what data they are collecting, how they are using that data, who accesses that data, is it being used to train AI, what is the commercial value of that data,” McGeehan said.


I want to know just what they're looking for.

Because even if it's above board, there are issues.


It's not whether or not they're intended for such a use; it's that they can be used for such a use.




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« Reply #231 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 01:59 pm »
There's clearly a nationwide problem with the police training itself, and it goes back to the Darryl Gates "War on Drugs" days, in which cops (many with military service and even combat deployments) are taught that "officer safety" is paramount, that the general public is their enemy, and to treat EVERY encounter as potentially hostile, like the entire country is outside the Green Zone in Baghdad.  Note that whenever cops get caught doing bad things, and are investigating themselves, their first line of defense is that they "followed their training" and "department policies."

THAT's the problem, along with the bad cops themselves!

Civil Rights attorneys John Bryan, James White, Jeff Hampton, and few others have countless videos on their Youtube channels showing how prevelant this problem is, and why the law enforcement legal fabric of this country has broken down.

Law enforcement stopped working for the citizens when the slogan "To Protect and To Serve" was removed from police cars. That was the signal that law enforcement was working for the government and not the people anymore. If you are in law enforcement today, you are a company man, your job is to enforce the laws, you do not protect the citizens, and you work for and protect the government's rules /laws.



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« Reply #232 on: Friday, Oct 02, 2026 02:45 pm »
Law enforcement stopped working for the citizens when the slogan "To Protect and To Serve" was removed from police cars. That was the signal that law enforcement was working for the government and not the people anymore. If you are in law enforcement today, you are a company man, your job is to enforce the laws, you do not protect the citizens, and you work for and protect the government's rules /laws.

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The removal of the "To Protect and Serve" motto from police vehicles is primarily attributed to legal liability concerns following key U.S. Supreme Court decisions.  In cases like Warren v. District of Columbia and Castle Rock v. Gonzales, the courts ruled that police officers generally have no constitutional duty to protect specific individuals from harm, absent a "special relationship" (such as custody).

Many department heads reportedly feared that displaying the motto could be interpreted as an explicit promise of protection, potentially exposing agencies to lawsuits for negligence if they failed to prevent harm. Consequently, some agencies removed the slogan or changed it to "To Serve" to avoid implying a legal obligation to individual citizens.

It is important to note that this change is not universal; the motto remains on vehicles in many jurisdictions, including the Los Angeles Police Department, which originally coined the phrase in 1955.  The decision to remove it is a local administrative choice rather than a nationwide mandate, and it does not change the actual legal duties of police, which remain focused on law enforcement rather than individual protection.

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« Reply #233 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 01:51 pm »
FEDERAL JUDGE RULES COPS USING FLOCK CAMERAS TO TRACK DRIVER FOR WEEKS WITHOUT A WARRANT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

A Federal Judge In Oklahoma Just Ruled That Police Violated Constitutional Rights When They Used Flock Cameras To Pull A Driver’s Travel History Without A Warrant.

On October 1, 2026, The U.S. District Court For The Northern District Of Oklahoma Threw Out Evidence In United States V. Melisa Susan Kyle. The Court Said A Warrantless Search Of Flock & Another Plate-Reader System Was An Illegal Search Under The Fourth Amendment.

Tulsa County Deputy Freddie Alaniz Looked Up A California Plate During A Traffic Stop. The Search Returned More Than 50 Sightings Over At Least 30 Days In Many States. The Record Showed The Car Leaving Locust Grove, Oklahoma, Heading Toward The California & Arizona Border, Then Turning Back Toward Missouri.

Here Is How The System Works. Cameras On Patrol Cars & Fixed Spots Snap License Plates. They Log The Date, The Time, & The Place. Officers Can Then Search That Stored History Across The Country. In This Case The Deputy Typed In Reasons Like “Traffic Violation” & “Investigation” & Got Weeks Of Movement Data. He Did Not Have A Warrant. He Did Not Have Probable Cause For That Search.

The Judge Said People Have A Real Privacy Right In That Long Record Of Where They Go, Even On Public Roads. Older Cases Let Police Watch One Car On One Trip. This Is Different. The Court Called It Indiscriminate Mass Surveillance On A Dragnet Scale. Modern Plate Readers Can Follow A Car Across States For Weeks. That Kind Of Tracking Needs A Warrant.

The Stop Itself Started Lawfully. The Deputy Said The Car Followed Another Vehicle Too Closely, About 30 Feet, Which Can Break Oklahoma Traffic Law. But The Court Said He Had No Good Reason To Hold The Driver After He Gave Back The License & Papers. He Kept Her To Run A Drug Dog. Nervousness, A Rental Car, Luggage, & A Short Trip Did Not Add Up To Real Suspicion Of A Crime.

Because Both The Extra Detention & The Plate-Reader Search Were Unlawful, The Court Suppressed What Came After Them. That Includes The Later Vehicle Search & Statements. The Judge Said No Exception Saved The Evidence.

This Order Does Not Shut The Cameras Off. It Says Searching The Stored History Of An American’s Drives, With No Warrant, Violates The Constitution. The Case Number Is 26-CR-00189-SEH.

https://x.com/JohnBasham/status/2106136401351782584

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« Reply #234 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 02:16 pm »
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« Reply #235 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 02:49 pm »
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About time this reality was actually addressed. Maybe I can find some time to pull some case law why it is completely out of bounds in the first place. Beginning with the presumption of guilt. With this system EVERYONE is presumed guilty of a crime before there is even probable cause to suspect a crime has been committed or that further investigation is even warranted or just.

Every time I have been in front of a judge the first question he asks is "do you understand the charges that have been brought up against you?"

The second question he asks is "Do you understand that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty?"

From now on if I end up in court I am going to challenge that fraudulent ideology.

"No I do not understand that your honor. Because in fact this is not the truth. I stand before you right now and here in this court room considered guilty as charged. By the Officer who arrested me and did not have evidence, You the magistrate of this fraudulent perspective, and the jury who already considers me guilty before they hear the evidence base on the simple fact that everyone "arrested" is automatically considered guilty before they are even convicted on real evidence."

So no your honor, to say that I am considered innocent until proven guilty is a fraudulent statement and perspective. It is just not true at all and absolute misrepresentation... I am going to now at this time request a mistrial based on this very real fact...

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« Reply #236 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 09:00 pm »
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JOHN STOSSEL 11:30 AM | October 03, 2026
https://hotair.com/john-stossel/2026/10/03/always-watching-n3819576?utm_source=hadaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=fc85d9fd0a377773055f1925941bbce485d3c69b5dace0c187ab5912dd7d0cd7&lctg=26251812

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Do you worry that you're being watched?

        If you drive, you probably are.

 But lots of people hate the cameras.   

        "We are asked to give up our privacy for really nothing in return," says ACLU lawyer Chad Marlow.


Marlow replies that today, AI lets police use that photo to learn much more about us.

        "The data they collect when combined with AI is terrifying. Combine them with all other sources of electronic data from the government and our own personal lives, you are literally looking at what George Orwell warned us about."


China is an actual surveillance state. Cameras track people's movements, clothes, cars, even relationships.

        "It is only going to get worse as technology advances if we don't stop it now," says Marlow.

        Flock has no plans to stop. The company now promotes surveillance drones.


 "That's a mistake," Michael Ricci, president of Stossel TV tells me. "Camera surveillance makes it easier for a tyrannical government to track where you go, and who you meet with. It also normalizes surveillance. As storage gets cheaper, maybe they will store videos instead of just photos. Maybe add facial recognition. Maybe they will connect the system to the 'kill switch' they've mandated in new cars. Government always finds ways to expand its powers."

        He makes good points. China's surveillance did not start with its current system. They started with a few cameras. This is not a path we want to start traveling.

        Giving governments more power is always dangerous.

        Government is force. Only government can legally take our property and freedom.



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« Reply #237 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 09:33 pm »
From the web:

The removal of the "To Protect and Serve" motto from police vehicles is primarily attributed to legal liability concerns following key U.S. Supreme Court decisions.  In cases like Warren v. District of Columbia and Castle Rock v. Gonzales, the courts ruled that police officers generally have no constitutional duty to protect specific individuals from harm, absent a "special relationship" (such as custody).

Many department heads reportedly feared that displaying the motto could be interpreted as an explicit promise of protection, potentially exposing agencies to lawsuits for negligence if they failed to prevent harm. Consequently, some agencies removed the slogan or changed it to "To Serve" to avoid implying a legal obligation to individual citizens.

It is important to note that this change is not universal; the motto remains on vehicles in many jurisdictions, including the Los Angeles Police Department, which originally coined the phrase in 1955.  The decision to remove it is a local administrative choice rather than a nationwide mandate, and it does not change the actual legal duties of police, which remain focused on law enforcement rather than individual protection.


SCOUS has ruled 5+ times "that police officers generally have no constitutional duty to protect specific individuals from harm,"

But most governments in this country want to restrict and remove the citizen's right to the 2nd amendment and their ability to protect and defend themselves.   
Because an unarmed population can be controlled!

Take a look at Iran, China and England!



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« Reply #238 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 10:09 pm »
FEDERAL JUDGE RULES COPS USING FLOCK CAMERAS TO TRACK DRIVER FOR WEEKS WITHOUT A WARRANT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

A Federal Judge In Oklahoma Just Ruled That Police Violated Constitutional Rights When They Used Flock Cameras To Pull A Driver’s Travel History Without A Warrant.

On October 1, 2026, The U.S. District Court For The Northern District Of Oklahoma Threw Out Evidence In United States V. Melisa Susan Kyle. The Court Said A Warrantless Search Of Flock & Another Plate-Reader System Was An Illegal Search Under The Fourth Amendment.

Tulsa County Deputy Freddie Alaniz Looked Up A California Plate During A Traffic Stop. The Search Returned More Than 50 Sightings Over At Least 30 Days In Many States. The Record Showed The Car Leaving Locust Grove, Oklahoma, Heading Toward The California & Arizona Border, Then Turning Back Toward Missouri.

Here Is How The System Works. Cameras On Patrol Cars & Fixed Spots Snap License Plates. They Log The Date, The Time, & The Place. Officers Can Then Search That Stored History Across The Country. In This Case The Deputy Typed In Reasons Like “Traffic Violation” & “Investigation” & Got Weeks Of Movement Data. He Did Not Have A Warrant. He Did Not Have Probable Cause For That Search.

The Judge Said People Have A Real Privacy Right In That Long Record Of Where They Go, Even On Public Roads. Older Cases Let Police Watch One Car On One Trip. This Is Different. The Court Called It Indiscriminate Mass Surveillance On A Dragnet Scale. Modern Plate Readers Can Follow A Car Across States For Weeks. That Kind Of Tracking Needs A Warrant.

The Stop Itself Started Lawfully. The Deputy Said The Car Followed Another Vehicle Too Closely, About 30 Feet, Which Can Break Oklahoma Traffic Law. But The Court Said He Had No Good Reason To Hold The Driver After He Gave Back The License & Papers. He Kept Her To Run A Drug Dog. Nervousness, A Rental Car, Luggage, & A Short Trip Did Not Add Up To Real Suspicion Of A Crime.

Because Both The Extra Detention & The Plate-Reader Search Were Unlawful, The Court Suppressed What Came After Them. That Includes The Later Vehicle Search & Statements. The Judge Said No Exception Saved The Evidence.

This Order Does Not Shut The Cameras Off. It Says Searching The Stored History Of An American’s Drives, With No Warrant, Violates The Constitution. The Case Number Is 26-CR-00189-SEH.

https://x.com/JohnBasham/status/2106136401351782584

Flock’s Massive License-Plate Database Just Hit a Fourth Amendment Wall
David Manney October 03, 2026 2:20 PM
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Police found 91 pounds of meth in Melisa Kyle's vehicle. Nobody has to squint very hard to understand why law enforcement wanted the drugs off the highway.

The harder question is how police got there.

A Tulsa County sheriff's deputy saw Kyle driving a Mazda SUV with California plates in Oklahoma. He later searched automated license-plate-reader databases, including Flock Safety's network, and pulled up more than 50 records showing where the vehicle had been during roughly a month of travel. He used her travel history as part of the basis for searching the SUV.

Police found the meth.

U.S. District Judge Sara Hill still ruled the warrantless database search violated the Fourth Amendment, and suppressed the evidence that followed it. She described the technology as a form of “indiscriminate mass surveillance.”

There’s a reason this case deserves the spotlight beyond a single drug prosecution.

A police officer seeing your license plate on a public highway isn’t particularly controversial. Police have been able to observe cars, write down plate numbers, and follow suspects for generations. Flock changes the scale.


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« Reply #239 on: Saturday, Oct 03, 2026 10:51 pm »
You know what??  You need to change your name to "Karen C"...a total pain-in-the arse!   :laugh:
Actually, she's right. Nowhere in the Constitution is the Government granted the power to randomly surveil the population in the conduct of our day to day lives. (The Constitution doesn't grant Rights to people, it grants limited powers to government, and the Bill of Rights and other Amendments were intended to specifically limit those powers.

Virtually every town past the Mississippi River (and perhaps a few East) have markers in graveyards of people who were hanged by mistake. Physical resemblances are not uncommon, in fact I have been told I look exactly like people other people knew in states I had never been in.

Sometimes those people were bad, and when images or appearances were relied on for identification, on occasion, the wrong person ended up at the end of a rope.
That's why fingerprint technology became the gold standard for a long time, to only be replaced by DNA which has less of a chance of misidentification.

This has the potential to be a huge step backward, only automated in concert with facial recognition software, and increase the errors of a century ago.

If the readers are not verified as being 100% accurate, and backed up by another source of information, their veracity is in question.

I'm with Megan on this, because I, too have been at the mercy of the Social Serpents who, frankly, lied their asses off to try to make erroneous charges stick.
They need not set foot on my property ever again, or it will get ugly.

I get along well with police (those ranks have changed since that years long incident where the only ones being harmed were me and my family by the Social Workers), but I got along with the police well even before that. When they follow your teenage kids day in and day out the LSWs will find something they can parse as heinous, even if it takes a ton of embellishment in bureaucratese.

Why distrust? because there were four of us in the same town of 15,000, all with the same nickname. I sent narcs back to the hive with their tails between their legs and the message that it was one of the other three they were looking for, more than once (it got to be a game, really, and I'd even tell them where they 'blew' their cover by the way they acted, flaws in their 'legend', or other tells before I sent them packing.)

I don't need the presence of a camera to do things right, to behave. They say the measure of your character is how you behave when no one is looking. I'd pass fine. Stick a camera over my shoulder and my performance diminishes in quantity and quality. The eyes of God are sufficient, humans need not hover, unless I'm trying to teach them how to do something (Watch carefully, because you get to do the next one! I believe the best way to learn is by doing.)

THe problem isn't that these cameras are being used to read license plates. If you cross a toll bridge or use, say, the PA Turnpike without an EZ Pass or some such, you'll get the bill in the mail if the vehicle is registered to you. I suppose if you were not there, you could contest it, but I was, they did, and they got paid. No problem.

But the cameras won't stop with license plates, and will (if they haven't already) graduate to faces and people movements and interactions. Not specific things like the security cameras in a business covering the entrances, exits, the merch and the till (you know they are there, and if you aren't stealing or otherwise causing trouble, no problem0, but people walking down the street. People who might be misidentified. People who might look just like the person of interest the system flags, and end up arrested or worse falsely...

Or, in the 1800s parlance 'Hanged by mistake'. The process is the punishment.

I don't trust the people wielding these things (as many have already demonstrated) with the power to pick out and follow people on camera without a warrant, and frankly, not even then, because I have seen how the system can be gamed from the inside to produce whatever is needed to get one, justified or not.
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« Reply #240 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 02:03 am »
Actually, she's right. Nowhere in the Constitution is the Government granted the power to randomly surveil the population in the conduct of our day to day lives. (The Constitution doesn't grant Rights to people, it grants limited powers to government, and the Bill of Rights and other Amendments were intended to specifically limit those powers.

Virtually every town past the Mississippi River (and perhaps a few East) have markers in graveyards of people who were hanged by mistake. Physical resemblances are not uncommon, in fact I have been told I look exactly like people other people knew in states I had never been in.

Sometimes those people were bad, and when images or appearances were relied on for identification, on occasion, the wrong person ended up at the end of a rope.
That's why fingerprint technology became the gold standard for a long time, to only be replaced by DNA which has less of a chance of misidentification.

This has the potential to be a huge step backward, only automated in concert with facial recognition software, and increase the errors of a century ago.

If the readers are not verified as being 100% accurate, and backed up by another source of information, their veracity is in question.

I'm with Megan on this, because I, too have been at the mercy of the Social Serpents who, frankly, lied their asses off to try to make erroneous charges stick.
They need not set foot on my property ever again, or it will get ugly.

I get along well with police (those ranks have changed since that years long incident where the only ones being harmed were me and my family by the Social Workers), but I got along with the police well even before that. When they follow your teenage kids day in and day out the LSWs will find something they can parse as heinous, even if it takes a ton of embellishment in bureaucratese.

Why distrust? because there were four of us in the same town of 15,000, all with the same nickname. I sent narcs back to the hive with their tails between their legs and the message that it was one of the other three they were looking for, more than once (it got to be a game, really, and I'd even tell them where they 'blew' their cover by the way they acted, flaws in their 'legend', or other tells before I sent them packing.)

I don't need the presence of a camera to do things right, to behave. They say the measure of your character is how you behave when no one is looking. I'd pass fine. Stick a camera over my shoulder and my performance diminishes in quantity and quality. The eyes of God are sufficient, humans need not hover, unless I'm trying to teach them how to do something (Watch carefully, because you get to do the next one! I believe the best way to learn is by doing.)

THe problem isn't that these cameras are being used to read license plates. If you cross a toll bridge or use, say, the PA Turnpike without an EZ Pass or some such, you'll get the bill in the mail if the vehicle is registered to you. I suppose if you were not there, you could contest it, but I was, they did, and they got paid. No problem.

But the cameras won't stop with license plates, and will (if they haven't already) graduate to faces and people movements and interactions. Not specific things like the security cameras in a business covering the entrances, exits, the merch and the till (you know they are there, and if you aren't stealing or otherwise causing trouble, no problem0, but people walking down the street. People who might be misidentified. People who might look just like the person of interest the system flags, and end up arrested or worse falsely...

Or, in the 1800s parlance 'Hanged by mistake'. The process is the punishment.

I don't trust the people wielding these things (as many have already demonstrated) with the power to pick out and follow people on camera without a warrant, and frankly, not even then, because I have seen how the system can be gamed from the inside to produce whatever is needed to get one, justified or not.

FYI...my sarcastic retort aimed at @MeganC was on account of her rapid posting of more than a half dozen YouTube videos...not because she held an opposing POV on the matter.

I used my own personal day-to-day time behind the wheel.

Many weeks I would drive over one thousand miles total...moving around The Peoples Republic of Maryland filling accepted orders for banks and mortgage companies who paid for current, dated photos of homes/properties for one reason or another.

*30 day delinquencies trigger the need to ensure the lender that house/property was maintained and/or occupied since it's the collateral for outstanding mortgage or HELOC loans.

* a dated picture of home/property where people were applying for HELOCs (Home Equity Lines of Credit)

* Homeowners applying for the removal of their PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance) to lower their monthly nut...in said case I would do INTERIOR photos too...of each and every room from the entrance and toward the entrance.  Legal BRs require a large enough window for people to access and egress in case of emergency...plus a closet (door can be closed) which are required to count as a legal bedroom.  Full baths need a sink/commode and a tub or shower.  Kitchens require serviceable appliances...not a portable hotplate sitting on a counter or table, etc..

Therefore my license plate was read sometimes over 100X each day, which might garner attention to FLOCK.

All the government intelligence agencies can therefore peek at my email accounts and find that there would be sometimes over 70 photos of a specific home or property...IOW a legitimate reason for my travels.

In summary, IDGAF who's snapping my plate or face using facial recognition.

But that's just me.

If a person who was casing neighborhoods to burglar or otherwise be up to no with intent to commit crimes, I'd want FLOCK systems to have that data.

THAT is where I'm coming from and why I encourage the FLOCK system.
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« Reply #241 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 03:23 am »
FYI...my sarcastic retort aimed at @MeganC was on account of her rapid posting of more than a half dozen YouTube videos...not because she held an opposing POV on the matter.

If a person who was casing neighborhoods to burglar or otherwise be up to no with intent to commit crimes, I'd want FLOCK systems to have that data.

THAT is where I'm coming from and why I encourage the FLOCK system.
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Except it wasn't a burglar, it was the old bored retired Police Sargent who drives around doing his own private neighborhood watch program as a service to the community. But because of his vehicle activity he is now a suspect without any probable cause or evidence. This is precrime guilt. Now everyone driving around the neighborhood is automatically a burglar suspect.

Megan's point is that the system is not mistake free, neither are those who use the tool. And because the system is not flawless a whole lot more innocent people will be harmed by it than helped by it. Innocent people are gong to die from use of this system because of mistaken identification. As long as your lawnmower is safe these are just "acceptable losses" then?

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« Reply #242 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 04:36 am »
Innocent Couple Confused When Armed Cops Surround Their Home Following a Wild Tip From a Flock Camera

A completely innocent couple in Lexington, Kentucky was thrust into the middle of a violent police operation last weekend — after officers used data from Flock cameras to build an extremely tenuous lead while investigating a case of road rage.

According to the local LEX18 News, Will Penn and Robin Pen were shocked when police surrounded their home at 4:00am last Saturday, guns drawn and floodlights blazing through their windows.

If the couple thought the officer knocking on their door would clear things up, they were surely disappointed.

“There was an incident tonight in which the vehicle we are trying to find is nearly identical to yours,” the officer is heard saying in home surveillance footage shared with LEX18.

Lexington Police told the couple they weren’t in any trouble — despite what the massive presence of armed officers in their yard might suggest. Instead, they were merely testing a paper-thin lead they had generated using automatic license plate readers (ALPRs).

https://futurism.com/future-society/innocent-couple-confused-armed-police-surround-home-tip-flock-camera-alpr

And it is just beginning, this is going to be common place soon...
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« Reply #243 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 04:37 am »
Innocent Couple Confused When Armed Cops Surround Their Home Following a Wild Tip From a Flock Camera

A completely innocent couple in Lexington, Kentucky was thrust into the middle of a violent police operation last weekend — after officers used data from Flock cameras to build an extremely tenuous lead while investigating a case of road rage.

According to the local LEX18 News, Will Penn and Robin Pen were shocked when police surrounded their home at 4:00am last Saturday, guns drawn and floodlights blazing through their windows.

If the couple thought the officer knocking on their door would clear things up, they were surely disappointed.

“There was an incident tonight in which the vehicle we are trying to find is nearly identical to yours,” the officer is heard saying in home surveillance footage shared with LEX18.

Lexington Police told the couple they weren’t in any trouble — despite what the massive presence of armed officers in their yard might suggest. Instead, they were merely testing a paper-thin lead they had generated using automatic license plate readers (ALPRs).

https://futurism.com/future-society/innocent-couple-confused-armed-police-surround-home-tip-flock-camera-alpr

And it is just beginning, this is going to be common place soon...

Well you don't need a flock camera for this to happen, google "swatting".

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« Reply #244 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 04:55 am »
Well you don't need a flock camera for this to happen, google "swatting".

So because the same thing can come from other sources it removes the fact it was indeed sourced from FLOCK? Both are a problem, the one does not cancel out or excuse the other.

I am going to appeal to your knowledge of Technology. What folks do not understand when they judge this FLOCK situation is that the devices are not just reading Plates. They are also connected to the Matrix of the "Internet of Things."  Which is now been deemed the "AI of Things".

They are also tapping all WiFi Device connections, Cell Phone Connections, Bluetooth connections, Smart Car connections... All in real time they are gathering information from all these sources and logging them into your profile folder. They are not just tracking your car, they are also tracking your person and everything you are doing or have done on all your devices. They are uploading packets as you go by... It is all one big tracking and data gathering system all tied together...
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« Reply #245 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 05:37 am »
They are also tapping all WiFi Device connections, Cell Phone Connections, Bluetooth connections, Smart Car connections... All in real time they are gathering information from all these sources and logging them into your profile folder. They are not just tracking your car, they are also tracking your person and everything you are doing or have done on all your devices. They are uploading packets as you go by... It is all one big tracking and data gathering system all tied together...

Those connections are encrypted... likely they are just collecting publically available things like Wifi ssid's and  bluetooth connections.

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« Reply #246 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 05:59 am »
Those connections are encrypted... likely they are just collecting publically available things like Wifi ssid's and  bluetooth connections.

Encrypted from generally broad snooping...NOT where the NSA is concerned.

If any person is deemed worthy of investigating, it's as simple as A.B.C. for the government intelligence agencies to build an immediate profile on your interests, personality and intentions.
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Re: Flock Cameras, Go 'Flock' Yourself
« Reply #247 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 06:07 am »
Those connections are encrypted... likely they are just collecting publically available things like Wifi ssid's and  bluetooth connections.

Every encryption protocol has a master key... We are only led to believe encryption is private and secure. This is what pretty much destroyed the anonymity and privacy of the TOR network. How anyone could think that a protocol invented by Military Intelligence would not have a master key I have no clue... Same with the Intel Management Engine, I don't care what they claim, Law Enforcement has master key access to every Motherboard out there. I have personally logged this reality on my own machines despite all my knowledgeable efforts to lock them down. It can only be prevented by removing all power sources to the motherboard including the motherboard battery.

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Re: Flock Cameras, Go 'Flock' Yourself
« Reply #248 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 08:37 am »
Well you don't need a flock camera for this to happen, google "swatting".

You're just ignoring what happened here. Flock cameras were the crux of the problem!  ****slapping
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Re: Flock Cameras, Go 'Flock' Yourself
« Reply #249 on: Sunday, Oct 04, 2026 09:20 am »
Encrypted from generally broad snooping...NOT where the NSA is concerned.

If any person is deemed worthy of investigating, it's as simple as A.B.C. for the government intelligence agencies to build an immediate profile on your interests, personality and intentions.
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Not talking about the NSA, doubt they would bother getting involved in this area. WiFi SSID's are public information, period. A simple smarthphone can reveal any in your area, Bluetooth has something similiar. That is the information flock is most likely keeping.