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Title: An international affair
Post by: Elderberry on July 28, 2023, 12:36:25 am
Houston Chronicle by Jeremy Wallace

Gov. Greg Abbott’s buoy system in the Rio Grande is putting a strain on U.S. relations with Mexico.

In new court filings, the U.S. Justice Department warned that Mexico has lodged formal protests at the “highest diplomatic levels” and canceled a previously scheduled meeting about other matters related to the Rio Grande over the buoy barrier, which they say violates treaties between the two nations.

But Abbott isn’t budging. On Wednesday, he was defending the buoy system on ultra-conservative networks like Newsmax and blaming the Biden administration for making Texas have to do all the things it is doing.

“Texas is stepping up as the fighter for the freedom and sovereignty of this country, and we need the United States to step up and do its job,” Abbott said.

More: https://link.houstonchronicle.com/view/5b0232662ddf9c12eaecd67ej6jk1.eo/312cf6f9 (https://link.houstonchronicle.com/view/5b0232662ddf9c12eaecd67ej6jk1.eo/312cf6f9)
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: PeteS in CA on July 28, 2023, 02:56:57 pm
Defending a border, "violates treaties between the two nations"? :bsflag:  :bsflag:  :bsflag:  :bsflag:  :bsflag:  :bsflag: Quote the treaties, with chapter-and-verse.
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: GtHawk on July 28, 2023, 06:08:34 pm
F'K Mexico, they have never been concerned about relations with America, especially when it come to illegal immigration and drug and other contraband smuggling across the border. If they cared about anything other than the money flowing into the government coffers and the pockets of Mexican officials from the cartels and Mexican illegals in the US I have never seen it.  9999hair out0000
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: Elderberry on July 28, 2023, 07:10:34 pm
Treaties Between the U.S. and Mexico

Treaty of November 23, 1970

from Article 4
B

Prohibit the construction of works which may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of the river.

https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/ (https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/)
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: PeteS in CA on July 28, 2023, 08:17:07 pm
Treaties Between the U.S. and Mexico

Treaty of November 23, 1970

from Article 4
B

Prohibit the construction of works which may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of the river.

https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/ (https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/)

If LIEden's crew try that in court, the judge may struggle not to :silly: :silly: :silly: .
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: berdie on July 28, 2023, 08:27:16 pm
Treaties Between the U.S. and Mexico

Treaty of November 23, 1970

from Article 4
B

Prohibit the construction of works which may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of the river.

https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/ (https://www.ibwc.gov/treaties/)



I have read that. But I'm not convinced that the "flow" of the river is impeded. Bank access between one side an another, yes. However, I just saw an article that showed pictures of the illegals wading through the river to get around it.
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: Elderberry on July 28, 2023, 08:42:27 pm


I have read that. But I'm not convinced that the "flow" of the river is impeded. Bank access between one side an another, yes. However, I just saw an article that showed pictures of the illegals wading through the river to get around it.

It's not. In your reading of the treaty did you come across anything like: Prohibit the construction of works which may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of illegal aliens from Mexico to the United States?

Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: Kamaji on July 28, 2023, 08:50:07 pm


I have read that. But I'm not convinced that the "flow" of the river is impeded. Bank access between one side an another, yes. However, I just saw an article that showed pictures of the illegals wading through the river to get around it.

Maybe so, but since the treaty is being invoked, the people who have to be convinced are the people to whom implementation and enforcement of the treaty has been entrusted.  That is almost certainly the competent authorities of the two governments.
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: berdie on July 28, 2023, 10:50:47 pm
It's not. In your reading of the treaty did you come across anything like: Prohibit the construction of works which may cause deflection or obstruction of the normal flow of illegal aliens from Mexico to the United States?


Nope.
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: berdie on July 28, 2023, 10:54:05 pm
Maybe so, but since the treaty is being invoked, the people who have to be convinced are the people to whom implementation and enforcement of the treaty has been entrusted.  That is almost certainly the competent authorities of the two governments.



Competent authorities implies there are no politics involved.
Title: Re: An international affair
Post by: GtHawk on July 29, 2023, 01:59:50 am
Maybe so, but since the treaty is being invoked, the people who have to be convinced are the people to whom implementation and enforcement of the treaty has been entrusted.  That is almost certainly the competent authorities of the two governments.
I know the answer when it comes to the Brandon administration, there are no apolitical authorities, but competent authorities in Mexico?