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Title: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: mystery-ak on December 12, 2023, 01:44:16 pm
Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’

Joshua Klein 11 Dec 2023

Half of young Americans are either unsure of the Nazi Holocaust’s authenticity or outright believe it to be a “myth,” according to a recent survey that reveals a worrying trend in the U.S. across the younger generation.

One in five young Americans believe the Nazi Holocaust to be a “myth,” according to the survey.

A YouGov/The Economist poll revealed concerning levels of Holocaust ignorance among young Americans, with roughly 20 percent of 18⁠–⁠29-year-olds believing the horrific tragedy — the systematic genocide of six million Jews and millions of other victims of Nazism — to be a myth, even higher than the eight percent in the 30⁠–⁠44 age group.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/poll-50-young-americans-question-holocaust-half-believe-myth/
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: deb on December 12, 2023, 01:49:38 pm
Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’

Joshua Klein 11 Dec 2023

Half of young Americans are either unsure of the Nazi Holocaust’s authenticity or outright believe it to be a “myth,” according to a recent survey that reveals a worrying trend in the U.S. across the younger generation.

One in five young Americans believe the Nazi Holocaust to be a “myth,” according to the survey.

A YouGov/The Economist poll revealed concerning levels of Holocaust ignorance among young Americans, with roughly 20 percent of 18⁠–⁠29-year-olds believing the horrific tragedy — the systematic genocide of six million Jews and millions of other victims of Nazism — to be a myth, even higher than the eight percent in the 30⁠–⁠44 age group.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/poll-50-young-americans-question-holocaust-half-believe-myth/

We’ve raised a generation of fools.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: cato potatoe on December 12, 2023, 02:24:29 pm
If you import antisemitic cultures, this is what you get.  Elon Musk got into hot water for criticizing left-wing Jews on their self destructive politics, but this is what he was referencing.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on December 12, 2023, 02:55:27 pm
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These kids and their parents are spending $50,000 per semester to become more stupid.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: the OlLine Rebel on December 12, 2023, 02:58:02 pm
If you import antisemitic cultures, this is what you get.  Elon Musk got into hot water for criticizing left-wing Jews on their self destructive politics, but this is what he was referencing.

Could it be mostly because they’re asking Moslems?  Over-sampled, esp on college campus?

I find it hard to believe that many think it’s a lie.  Our culture has been inundated with this stuff as it is, and it’s full of the grievance pathos that current trend adore.

On an unrelated pet peeve soapbox note, I despise the abuse of “concerning” and its cousin “worrying”. Should be a form of “of concern” and “worrisome”. Off my soapbox.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: cato potatoe on December 12, 2023, 04:44:27 pm
Could it be mostly because they’re asking Moslems?  Over-sampled, esp on college campus?

The Muslims are given a megaphone when they enter college, but there is also a heavy strain of antisemitism across much of Latin America, and many places far removed from Europe. 
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: goatprairie on December 14, 2023, 01:38:42 am
There are many of whatever ethnicities you can name who simply refuse to believe that their people can do evil things.
If the history of the world has proved anything it's that all the groups of the world are capable of doing evil things.
There are a number people on the far right who purport that the Holocaust was a myth or the number of Jews murdered overexaggerated.
These people simply cannot stand to look reality in the face.
It's like the people who refuse to admit the Hamas savagery on Oct 7.
WWII was real. Hitler was real. The murder of millions of Jews (and Slavic peoples too) was real.
Some deniers claim that six million Jews weren't murdered. 
So, if Hitler had only murdered one or two million Jews, would it have been any less evil?
I don't think so.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: andy58-in-nh on December 14, 2023, 02:10:02 am
Growing up as a kid in the 1960s and 70s, there were a few older people in my synagogue with numbers tattooed on their arms.

Trust me: they didn't make it up.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: mountaineer on December 14, 2023, 01:42:59 pm
Today's young people are believing all kinds of idiocy. The indoctrination is a success, Herr Goebbels!

NPR/Marist poll finds that nearly 40% of Americans believe in transgenderism.
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1735018386369683505
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: catfish1957 on December 14, 2023, 01:45:44 pm
Just a random thought, but why are the majority of Jews in our country still ID-ing themselves  as liberal and democrat?
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: jafo2010 on December 15, 2023, 03:14:09 am
Our young are intentionally molded to be dumb as a box of rocks.  It is intentional, for it makes it easier to control them, and many are made dependent on the government, again for control purposes.

The data exists to prove what did happen under Hitler.  PERIOD!!!

A large element of those entering the USA for the last 30 years are muslims.  They dominate the people coming to the USA via the Diversity Visa Program (Greencard Lottery).  And usually, Iran is at the top of the list for the nation with the most folks coming here.  Makes zero sense to me, and like Europe, we will awake to the UGLY TRUTH of how destructive this policy is when thousands of Americans are sent to their death by these fine diverse cretins.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: sneakypete on December 15, 2023, 05:12:03 am
Growing up as a kid in the 1960s and 70s, there were a few older people in my synagogue with numbers tattooed on their arms.

Trust me: they didn't make it up.

@andy58-in-nh


Yeah,but you are Jewish.

Most Americans aren't and don't really know anything about the Jewish religion.

Not that lack of knowledge about something has  ever convinced  anyone to be opposed to it. Truth to tell,the natural inclination of almost everybody is to be against issues and/or actions they don't understand.

Not necessarily because they are bigots,but because being opposed to  or afraid of something you know nothing  about is a natural reaction. Who votes for the unknown?

It may not be "right",but it is human nature to fear the unknown,but pretty much  everybody alive today  has a television,even if they don't like to read or don't  know how to read,and I know there has been movies as well as documentaries about it shown on prime-time tv.

Then again,"The Holocaust" is hardly an unknown  issue. Even if you can't  read,pretty  much every adult in America has heard  of "The Holocaust" and has some idea of what happened. It ain't like  it has been kept  a secret.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: sneakypete on December 15, 2023, 05:13:33 am
Today's young people are believing all kinds of idiocy. The indoctrination is a success, Herr Goebbels!

NPR/Marist poll finds that nearly 40% of Americans believe in transgenderism.
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1735018386369683505

@mountaineer

Kinda boggles the imagination,doesn't  it?
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: sneakypete on December 15, 2023, 05:14:15 am
Just a random thought, but why are the majority of Jews in our country still ID-ing themselves  as liberal and democrat?

@catfish1957

It's a mystery to me.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: goatprairie on December 15, 2023, 09:42:33 pm
Just a random thought, but why are the majority of Jews in our country still ID-ing themselves  as liberal and democrat?
Some are just very liberal, but for many it's very difficult to break their loyalty to the party them welcomed them when they first emigrated to America is large numbers. The Republican Party, made them feel very unwelcome in the old days. The Democratic Party welcomed the millions of immigrants like the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, and a number of other European immigrants. The Republicans were the ones trying to keep immigrants in their place.
Not even the fact that the KKK hated both Jews and Republicans convinced many Jews to join the GOP.
Times change. While there is still a small segment of anti-Semites on the right and cheerleaders for the anti-Semites like Pat Buchanan, the GOP is not the same anti-Jew party it was in the days of yore.
But still before the modern era many Jews identified with civil rights that they felt were best championed by the Democratic Party. This despite the Solid South being anti-black and anti-Jew.
There is also the fact that many Jewish women are very strong proponents of abortion which the Dem Party also strongly supports and the Republican Party opposes.
We'll see how this all shakes out next year. Anti-Jewish sentiment has been growing in the Dem Party as shown in recent polls.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: catfish1957 on December 15, 2023, 09:46:08 pm
Some are just very liberal, but for many it's very difficult to break their loyalty to the party them welcomed them when they first emigrated to America is large numbers. The Republican Party, made them feel very unwelcome in the old days. The Democratic Party welcomed the millions of immigrants like the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, and a number of other European immigrants. The Republicans were the ones trying to keep immigrants in their place.
Not even the fact that the KKK hated both Jews and Republicans convinced many Jews to join the GOP.
Times change. While there is still a small segment of anti-Semites on the right and cheerleaders for the anti-Semites like Pat Buchanan, the GOP is not the same anti-Jew party it was in the days of yore.
But still before the modern era many Jews identified with civil rights that they felt were best championed by the Democratic Party. This despite the Solid South being anti-black and anti-Jew.
There is also the fact that many Jewish women are very strong proponents of abortion which the Dem Party also strongly supports and the Republican Party opposes.
We'll see how this all shakes out next year. Anti-Jewish sentiment has been growing in the Dem Party as shown in recent polls.

Thanks....  makes plenty of sense.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: 240B on December 15, 2023, 10:12:29 pm
This same 50% do not believe in the American Civil War. The point is, students today are so incredibly STOOPID they do not know anything about anything. They cannot read an analog clock. They cannot find America on a world map. Most of them do not know the name of the current VP. Students today wander about in a kind of blind ignorance about everything. They just do what they are told by so called internet 'influencers'

I do not take this as a symptom of antisemitism. It is more of a very clear indication of American ignorance. Which has been and still is the mandate and goal of the NEA since the early 70s. Leftism depends on stupid, ignorant, people doing what they are told without question.

The sought after point of success is when you can get people to deny blatantly obvious reality which is directly in front of their eyes. Men can get pregnant. Men and women are the same thing, with the same attributes, for example.

The whole COVID hysteria was a population control test by the Left to measure how much they have achieved so far. It was overwhelmingly successful.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: Gefn on December 15, 2023, 10:33:24 pm
Growing up as a kid in the 1960s and 70s, there were a few older people in my synagogue with numbers tattooed on their arms.

Trust me: they didn't make it up.


Same here. And relatives. I still have nightmares about this...

@andy58-in-nh
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: mountaineer on December 15, 2023, 10:57:28 pm
This same 50% do not believe in the American Civil War. The point is, students today are so incredible STOOPID they do not know anything about anything.
Quite true. On the other hand, I can think of some home-schooled children I know who are very interested in history and know more than the average college graduate.
Title: Re: Poll: 50% of Young Americans Question Holocaust, Nearly Half of Those Believing It a ‘Myth’
Post by: mountaineer on December 15, 2023, 11:49:00 pm
Here's more stupid stuff stupid American young people believe:

 79% of Americans between 18-24 believe that "white people are oppressors" and that this ideology should be "favored today at universities and for employment."
https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1735780870370533508