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General Category => Economy/Business => Topic started by: endicom on February 27, 2017, 11:33:46 pm

Title: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: endicom on February 27, 2017, 11:33:46 pm
Hot Air
Jazz Shaw
Feb. 27, 2017

Well, that didn’t take long at all. Rather than waiting to see how the Fight for 15 turns out, fast food chain Wendy’s announced this week that they will be moving into the world of automated sales at some of their restaurants starting with a pilot program in Ohio. The technology they are installing has already been available and in use for some time in Europe and Asia, as well as in other point of sales applications in America. But for those who have been so loudly arguing in favor of a “living wage” for people taking starter jobs asking if you would like fries with that, this announcement has some ominous portents. (Business Insider)

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Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Wingnut on February 27, 2017, 11:36:52 pm
Oh well.   No one wants those jobs anyway.   :whistle:
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 27, 2017, 11:41:55 pm
Awesome. I might actually get the order I placed now.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: dfwgator on February 28, 2017, 12:05:02 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-4LU79qbU
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: endicom on February 28, 2017, 12:11:25 am
Oh well.   No one wants those jobs anyway.   :whistle:


As long as it moves more people onto welfare.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Wingnut on February 28, 2017, 12:16:38 am

As long as it moves more people onto welfare.

It is a sustainable model of liberal growth and control all the way to the end.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: ABX on February 28, 2017, 12:28:51 am
The government ought to make a law banning these type of things as they are taking jobs away from Americans. At the very least, put a stiff tax on the companies that use anything like this to displace American workers.

/sarc
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Applewood on February 28, 2017, 01:42:55 am
Congratulations, you stupid people looking to make $15 an hour.  You just priced yourselves out of a job. 
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: GtHawk on February 28, 2017, 04:57:03 am
Awesome. I might actually get the order I placed now.
Well you certainly won't be able to blame some else if it's wrong, unless you're schizophrenic. :tongue2:
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Frank Cannon on February 28, 2017, 05:03:48 am
Well you certainly won't be able to blame some else if it's wrong, unless you're schizophrenic. :tongue2:

There is ALWAYS someone else to blame. I got the software designer and the owner of the store just off the top of my head. If that fails I still have the power company up my sleeve.

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/02/19/20170227_wendys_0.jpg)
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: GtHawk on February 28, 2017, 05:07:00 am
The government ought to make a law banning these type of things as they are taking jobs away from Americans. At the very least, put a stiff tax on the companies that use anything like this to displace American workers.

/sarc
Don't sweat it, they'll just bump that extra 5% they want to tax White people up to 10 or 15% so that they can pay the multi colors to sit at home smokin cigarretes, drinkin beer and poppin out little ATM's.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 05:32:04 am
Congratulations, you stupid people looking to make $15 an hour.  You just priced yourselves out of a job.
Recall the Hostess strike? http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/index.html)
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Victoria33 on February 28, 2017, 05:38:21 am
@CatherineofAragon

My Yorkie, Prissy, goes to the groomer every three weeks.  When we pick her up, we go to Wendy's and get her just the meat patty.  When we are at the window, she sticks her head out the widow and the clerk pets her, they know her now.  She prefers Wendy's meat patty than McDonalds.  I don't know how she will react to a mechanical box at the window.  Plus, I hope the box is able to give us just the meat patty.  I will tell her about this change going to happen.  She is not going to be happy about this as she is a people doggie, not a box doggie.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: GtHawk on February 28, 2017, 09:06:37 am
@CatherineofAragon

My Yorkie, Prissy, goes to the groomer every three weeks.  When we pick her up, we go to Wendy's and get her just the meat patty.  When we are at the window, she sticks her head out the widow and the clerk pets her, they know her now.  She prefers Wendy's meat patty than McDonalds.  I don't know how she will react to a mechanical box at the window.  Plus, I hope the box is able to give us just the meat patty.  I will tell her about this change going to happen.  She is not going to be happy about this as she is a people doggie, not a box doggie.


For now they are just talking about order kiosks and most likely in lobby only,. so don't worry you will have an English as sort of a second language person handing you your food.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: DB on February 28, 2017, 09:12:53 am
The government ought to make a law banning these type of things as they are taking jobs away from Americans. At the very least, put a stiff tax on the companies that use anything like this to displace American workers.

/sarc

The brilliant Bill Gates says we need to tax robotics that take jobs... Real forward thinker that man... Now that has his...
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 09:21:44 am
The brilliant Bill Gates says we need to tax robotics that take jobs... Real forward thinker that man... Now that has his...
Well, he is a forward thinker. Fewer people, less income tax to collect. A robot makes money, and there is no Obamacare insurance to buy, if it breaks you fix it or scrap it and you can get spare parts. You don't have to match the FICA, you don't have to withhold taxes or do payroll, or even screw around with who needs what day off, comes in late, or calls in sick.

If the ordinary folks aren't making and spending money, there's less sales tax to collect, because robots won't stop at the convenience store on the way home. Less fuel tax, because they won't commute, no uniforms, no worker's comp...

Unintended consequences, et fricking cetera.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: DB on February 28, 2017, 09:40:41 am
Well, he is a forward thinker. Fewer people, less income tax to collect. A robot makes money, and there is no Obamacare insurance to buy, if it breaks you fix it or scrap it and you can get spare parts. You don't have to match the FICA, you don't have to withhold taxes or do payroll, or even screw around with who needs what day off, comes in late, or calls in sick.

If the ordinary folks aren't making and spending money, there's less sales tax to collect, because robots won't stop at the convenience store on the way home. Less fuel tax, because they won't commute, no uniforms, no worker's comp...

Unintended consequences, et fricking cetera.

Well if they had only started by taxing the tractor we'd have full employment producing our food...

I wonder how many professions Bill Gates had a major hand in making obsolete. The list has to be long...
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 10:03:16 am
Well if they had only started by taxing the tractor we'd have full employment producing our food...

I wonder how many professions Bill Gates had a major hand in making obsolete. The list has to be long...
Tractors replaced 'paid' field hands and horses, which (in some areas) replaced slaves. Only those field hands collected wages, some even paid taxes, provided they spoke English, but most were paid in cash at the end of the day or on Monday evening to give their Missus a chance to get some things before the weekend.
Automation will continue to eliminate jobs, at least Gates realizes that will thin out the tax base, too.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: The_Reader_David on February 28, 2017, 02:02:48 pm
Okay, folks, when it's not fry-slingers, but truck-drivers, radiologists, lawyers, accountants,... being put out of work because AI does the job at least as well, and cheaper, or AI-assist makes it possible for one person to do the work currently done by 100 (e.g. MOOCs replacing HS and college teaching)  what is the non-statist, free-market solution to the problem created by mass unemployment?

Don't say the market will create new jobs.  To the extent that is true, they will all be jobs requiring above average intelligence, because there will come a point when all, not all existing, but all jobs that can be reliably done by persons of below average intelligence can be done more cheaply and more reliably by robots or AI (yes, all, including picking soft fruit, working call centers and "sex work") . The incentives of the market mean that managers, looking out for the interests of their shareholders the size of their bonuses, will inexorably replace human employees with robots and AI systems.

The left's solution makes everyone wards of the omnicompetent state.  We one the right had better come up a competing solution, or Mussolini's dream of "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state," will be realized within the life-time of the younger posters here.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Sanguine on February 28, 2017, 02:37:03 pm
Amazon's Alexa is now providing possible diagnoses given a certain set of symptoms.  Apparently it's fast and accurate.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: endicom on February 28, 2017, 03:13:45 pm
Where have all the chicken pluckers gone? Long time passing.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 03:19:45 pm
Where have all the chicken pluckers gone? Long time passing.
They graduated from chokin' school and got a new job title.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 03:22:43 pm
Amazon's Alexa is now providing possible diagnoses given a certain set of symptoms.  Apparently it's fast and accurate.
The logic tree isn't too terribly complex, at least for most of the more common things.
Most mothers and grandmothers I have known (in our family) could reason out things pretty well, and knew when they'd need to get antibiotics or something more advanced in terms of tests. A few could pretty well tell you what antibiotic would work, too.
I'd wager that anything that might be serious ends in an admonition to see a physician.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Wingnut on February 28, 2017, 03:27:17 pm
Where have all the chicken pluckers gone? Long time passing.

How To Properly Scald A Chicken 

http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-properly-scald-chicken-my-never.html

Follow this simple never-fail technique and you will never under-scald a chicken and have a hassle getting the bird plucked,
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 28, 2017, 03:41:06 pm
How To Properly Scald A Chicken 

http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-properly-scald-chicken-my-never.html

Follow this simple never-fail technique and you will never under-scald a chicken and have a hassle getting the bird plucked,
Thanks for that link!
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Wingnut on February 28, 2017, 03:44:30 pm
Thanks for that link!

Throw it into the "frugal living" etc topic if you wish.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: endicom on February 28, 2017, 03:47:43 pm
How To Properly Scald A Chicken 

http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-properly-scald-chicken-my-never.html

Follow this simple never-fail technique and you will never under-scald a chicken and have a hassle getting the bird plucked,


Remember a video of Sarah Palin being interviewed at a turkey farm? In the background were some troughs, the purpose of which became evident when some gomer came into the frame with a beheaded turkey, dumping it into a trough to bleed out.

The news people obviously set that up but it was still funny.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: LMAO on February 28, 2017, 04:40:11 pm
The biggest obstacle for progressivism working properly is reality. If it wasn't for pesky things like math and the law of economics, progressive's ideas would succeed.

Progressives seem to be of the mindset that if they support something, the rest of society should be forced to accommodate their belief system. Their ideas are so great, they have to be mandated. So they become surprised when their ideas don't go as planned. They forget that other people seek their own economic interests. That's why they become somewhat tyrannical eventually.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: the_doc on March 01, 2017, 12:22:56 am
Oh well.   No one wants those jobs anyway.   :whistle:

So, robots will do the jobs Americans won't do?  (Who'd a-thunk it?)
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 01, 2017, 01:02:09 am
So, robots will do the jobs Americans won't do?  (Who'd a-thunk it?)
If robots are doing them, Americans won't.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: massadvj on March 01, 2017, 01:14:00 am
The politics of minimum wage have become irrepressible as labor unions, progressives and socialists are joined by high tech companies and other big businesses that have a vested interest in elevating the cost of American labor.  Meanwhile, our cities are full of unemployed black youth with little opportunity to release themselves from the cycle of poverty and despair.  It is an awful thing for any thoughtful person to behold.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Sanguine on March 01, 2017, 01:24:31 am
The politics of minimum wage have become irrepressible as labor unions, progressives and socialists are joined by high tech companies and other big businesses that have a vested interest in elevating the cost of American labor.  Meanwhile, our cities are full of unemployed black youth with little opportunity to release themselves from the cycle of poverty and despair.  It is an awful thing for any thoughtful person to behold.

And, its' not just black communities, but anglo & hispanic too.  We may be creating a large number of permanent underclass communities.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: LMAO on March 01, 2017, 03:02:25 am
And, its' not just black communities, but anglo & hispanic too.  We may be creating a large number of permanent underclass communities.

That may be by design
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: massadvj on March 01, 2017, 05:17:32 pm
That may be by design

Yes.  But it isn't working because as it urns out not enough people who live on the socialist plantation turn out to vote, the ingrates.  The only way the other team can survive is to make more people dependent, which is why they always prefer "everyone equal but poor" to "some unequal but most way better off." 
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 01, 2017, 05:24:23 pm
Yes.  But it isn't working because as it urns out not enough people who live on the socialist plantation turn out to vote, the ingrates.  The only way the other team can make survive is to make more people dependent, which is why they always prefer "everyone equal but poor" to "some unequal but most way better off."
Well, whatdidya expect? They want legal pot, and they jumped the gun. Now their base just gets loaded and spaces out the voting thingy... :silly:

(But someone is getting filthy rich off the deal)
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: guitar4jesus on March 01, 2017, 05:38:58 pm
How To Properly Scald A Chicken 

http://thedeliberateagrarian.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-properly-scald-chicken-my-never.html

Follow this simple never-fail technique and you will never under-scald a chicken and have a hassle getting the bird plucked,

Great link, thanks!
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: truth_seeker on March 01, 2017, 05:39:28 pm
Bill Gates wants taxes on robots. San Fran Nan is, no doubt, working to allow them to vote.

And a bonus, they don't need 24/7 advertisements, to induce them to consume. (maybe a small app, here and there)

All in all, yet another new paradigm to consider, and exploit.
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Wingnut on March 01, 2017, 06:02:23 pm
Great link, thanks!

No Prob g4j... I come from a long like of chicken pluckers!
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: thackney on March 01, 2017, 06:24:03 pm
So, robots will do the jobs Americans won't do?  (Who'd a-thunk it?)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/motivationdemotivator.jpeg)
Title: Re: As predicted, Wendy’s moves to replace workers with kiosks
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 01, 2017, 07:52:56 pm
There is ALWAYS someone else to blame. I got the software designer and the owner of the store just off the top of my head. If that fails I still have the power company up my sleeve.

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/02/19/20170227_wendys_0.jpg)

Companion invention that's been around since 2012, from Momentum Machines:

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/momentum%20machines.png)