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Title: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: Kamaji on September 17, 2023, 03:19:35 pm
Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’

By Dean Balsamini and Tina Moore
Published Sep. 16, 2023

Staten Island secession might not be a bad thing — for New York City’s crime stats.

Murders in the “forgotten” borough have surged 129% so far this year over last year, to 16 from seven.

Major crimes are up in every category and 17% overall, according to NYPD data through Sept. 10.

By contrast, murders citywide are down 10%, to 280 from 311 this year. And major crimes have dipped 0.2%, the data shows.

Staten Island — where the migrant crisis has prompted the latest wave of secession sentiment — is the only borough whose murder rate is going in the wrong direction and the only one to only one to see increases across all major crime categories.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/09/16/murders-in-staten-island-soar-129-so-far-in-2023/
Title: Re: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: Hoodat on September 17, 2023, 03:53:25 pm
Unacceptable?  This is what NY voters voted for.  It was the #1 issue on the ballot last election.  And they soundly rejected doing anything to reduce crime.
Title: Re: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: Fishrrman on September 17, 2023, 09:35:06 pm
Hoodat sez:
"This is what NY voters voted for. "

Not Staten Islanders.
They vote Republican, mostly.
Title: Re: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 18, 2023, 08:21:46 pm
Hoodat sez:
"This is what NY voters voted for. "

Not Staten Islanders.
They vote Republican, mostly.
Yet haven't torn down the bridges or blocked the ferries. How conservative are they if democracy has failed them, roped them into a city where they are permanently outnumbered, and they won't respond?

You talk big game about Heartland Continental Congresses and all that, but when a red island won't cut itself off from a blue city/state, there's no hope for anything larger.
Title: Re: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: Fishrrman on September 18, 2023, 09:39:33 pm
j. myrle fumes:
"You talk big game about Heartland Continental Congresses and all that, but when a red island won't cut itself off from a blue city/state, there's no hope for anything larger."

Where they gonna go?
New Jersey?
Title: Re: Murders in Staten Island soar 129% so far in 2023: ‘Wholly unacceptable’
Post by: Kamaji on September 19, 2023, 09:46:24 am
Yet haven't torn down the bridges or blocked the ferries. How conservative are they if democracy has failed them, roped them into a city where they are permanently outnumbered, and they won't respond?

You talk big game about Heartland Continental Congresses and all that, but when a red island won't cut itself off from a blue city/state, there's no hope for anything larger.

Seceding from NYC is not an easy task.  There are active discussions about doing exactly that.