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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on November 06, 2016, 01:31:56 am
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Anyone see this?h
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It was not an assassination attempt.
Glenn Thrush @GlennThrush 13m13 minutes ago
Thank god Trump is okay. Hopefully he'll tamp down the negativity and discourage confrontation at his events by singling out reporters etc
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Again? Wasn't there an attempt several months ago?
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It was not an assassination attempt.
Glenn Thrush @GlennThrush 13m13 minutes ago
Thank god Trump is okay. Hopefully he'll tamp down the negativity and discourage confrontation at his events by singling out reporters etc
Oh, shut up, Sink.
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Oh, shut up, Sink.
LOL!!
Say, how'd you like Trump all pissed off at the early voting? He knows those Hispanics are not voting for him.
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CNN is reporting that even though, the guy apparently did not have a gun, people thought the accused did have a gun and were even saying "gun" and you could hear them.
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Trump is very patriotic; sick minds are against that.
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Secret Service doesn't mess around.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwitQOTWIAA_TV4.jpg)
Here is the thing, no matter what you think of the person, an attack on the President (or a candidate) is an attack on the US. Not saying it was a true attempt versus a scare, I have no clue. But we are not a third world despot nation where we swap out leaders through lead or rope. We have a Constitutional system to deal with these things.
Hopefully it was just a scare.
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Color me skeptical when the supposed target is a guy who has been known to stage elaborate theatrics.
Maybe we will never know, we live in surreal times.
Good exercise for the Service fellas though.
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Where's 'El Chapo' Guzmán?
(https://www.minnpost.com/sites/default/files/images/articles/JoaquinGuzman640.jpg)
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WOW.....how scary....can't find it anyplace on tv
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It was not an assassination attempt.
Glenn Thrush @GlennThrush 13m13 minutes ago
Thank god Trump is okay. Hopefully he'll tamp down the negativity and discourage confrontation at his events by singling out reporters etc
Glenn Thrush the same Glenn Thrush who checks his copy with the Clintons?
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CNN is reporting that even though, the guy apparently did not have a gun, people thought the accused did have a gun and were even saying "gun" and you could hear them.
Yeah because we know eyewitness reports are always accurate.
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Color me skeptical when the supposed target is a guy who has been known to stage elaborate theatrics.
Maybe we will never know, we live in surreal times.
Good exercise for the Service fellas though.
The USSS doesn't play those games. They wouldn't allow it to happen even if asked because playing a game like that could be a greater compromise of security.
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WOW.....how scary....can't find it anyplace on tv
@mystery-ak
It was frightening .... watching the rally live. Here's the perp. I'm surprised he can walk, he was tackled pretty hard by rally attendees.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwisA4OVIAApJVY.jpg)
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Thanks RIV for posting this....apparently some here have forgotten how Bobby Kennedy died.
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Here's video of the USSS rushing the suspect into a van:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pM1x-t-FY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1pM1x-t-FY)
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Trump is very patriotic; sick minds are against that.
Yeah, so patriotic that he has all of the merchandise he sells made overseas. Idiot.
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CNN is reporting that even though, the guy apparently did not have a gun, people thought the accused did have a gun and were even saying "gun" and you could hear them.
Ahh, so now it's an assassination attempt even though he doesn't have a gun?
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Marc AmbinderVerified account
@marcambinder
A Homeland Security official confirms the @ABC report: no gun found, crowd panicked as a guy tried to raise a sign; someone shouted "gun."
A guy tried to raise a sign.
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Color me skeptical when the supposed target is a guy who has been known to stage elaborate theatrics.
Maybe we will never know, we live in surreal times.
Good exercise for the Service fellas though.
(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2016/04/29/gettyimages-73764752_wide-2ba5e158fd39a1c155483f52b26006bd5ac44598-s900-c85.jpg)
I vote for the staging. That is exactly the sort of thing Trump would do.
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Thanks RIV for posting this....apparently some here have forgotten how Bobby Kennedy died.
Every person at the rally went through a magnetometer. It would have been nearly impossible to sneak a gun in.
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Marc AmbinderVerified account
@marcambinder
A Homeland Security official confirms the @ABC report: no gun found, crowd panicked as a guy tried to raise a sign; someone shouted "gun."
A guy tried to raise a sign.
So it was an over reaction..the SS did their job...next time it may be for real...
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@mystery-ak
It was frightening .... watching the rally live. Here's the perp. I'm surprised he can walk, he was tackled pretty hard by rally attendees.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwisA4OVIAApJVY.jpg)
/snicker
A guy trying to raise a sign is scary. :facepalm2:
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Every person at the rally went through a magnetometer. It would have been nearly impossible to sneak a gun in.
There's always a possibility...then why do they need armed guards or SS...a gun could have been planted earlier..
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Every person at the rally went through a magnetometer. It would have been nearly impossible to sneak a gun in.
Sshhh, don't try to explain facts to Trumpturds. In their minds, this was a latter-day Judas trying to earn his thirty pieces of silver.
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Marc AmbinderVerified account
@marcambinder
A Homeland Security official confirms the @ABC report: no gun found, crowd panicked as a guy tried to raise a sign; someone shouted "gun."
So good news then. No actual assassination attempt, no real threat. Just the audience being jumpy and the Secret Service doing their job.
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So good news then. No actual assassination attempt, no real threat. Just the audience being jumpy and the Secret Service doing their job.
Thank goodness for that.
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There's always a possibility...then why do they need armed guards or SS...a gun could have been planted earlier..
Are you serious?
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Guess that's what happens when tRumper son suggests putting a bullet in someone else's head.
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Glad Trump survived the sign.
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There's always a possibility...then why do they need armed guards or SS...a gun could have been planted earlier..
You mean the Secret Service didn't sweep the place before the audience was allowed in? They didn't have anybody checking things?
This was nothing more than an audience so amped up on their own egos and belief in Trump as The Savior, and on Trump's speeches about things being rigged against them, that they were fulfilling their wish that a gunman would attempt to attack Trump.
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Glad Trump survived the sign.
Yeah, that could have been a vicious paper cut; he might have needed two drops of iodide and several butterfly bandaids.
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Are you serious?
Yes I am....anything is possible.....you are a cold hearted person sink.....
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This was nothing more than an audience so amped up .
So it was...but scary nonetheless for any candidate
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Yes I am....anything is possible.....you are a cold hearted person sink.....
I'm a realist. SS swept the place two or three times before that rally.
BTW: Trump social media director retweeted that it was an assassination attempt:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwiylfFUQAAPHG7.jpg)
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Yes I am....anything is possible.....you are a cold hearted person sink.....
:amen:
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So good news then. No actual assassination attempt, no real threat. Just the audience being jumpy and the Secret Service doing their job.
Was either that or what we often see in the WWE with staged theatrics to gin up a crowd.
What did the guy's sign say?
Do they even know?
Wouldn't his be a hoot if it was just another Trump supporter that got laid into because of the mass paranoia of his mob?
Of course they gotta know the tweets that this was an assassination attempt ought to bolster his poll numbers.
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Yes I am....anything is possible.....you are a cold hearted person sink.....
Ok, as a purely theoretical matter, it is possible that, due to the vagaries of quantum physics, that all of the atoms in my body could all "decide" at the same time to disappear from here and show up on the far side of the Moon, in exactly the same configuration they have relative to each other - that is, I could suddenly appear on the far side of the Moon - but the odds of that are less than the planck constant. So, as a matter of quantum physics, anything is possible.
As a matter of reality, you'd have much better chances of winning the lottery than Trump has of being shot.
I'm just wondering how much the owner of the National Enquirer paid this guy for this stunt.
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I'm a realist. SS swept the place two or three times before that rally.
BTW: Trump social media director retweeted that it was an assassination attempt:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwiylfFUQAAPHG7.jpg)
So, either Trump has blithering, reckless idiots working for him, or this guy is intentionally lying to play this up.
Which just makes it more likely that this was a set-up by one of Trump's proxies.
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So it was...but scary nonetheless for any candidate
How do you know Trump was scared? I'm sure he was exhilarated; amped on his own ego.
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I'm a realist. SS swept the place two or three times before that rally.
BTW: Trump social media director retweeted that it was an assassination attempt:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwiylfFUQAAPHG7.jpg)
That was a stupid tweet.
Also, if the Secret Service determined it was an assassination attempt, he would not be back on stage a few minutes later. There are procedures for real threats and they involve getting the protectee as far away from the dangerous situation as they can. They would not have let him go back up there.
If he was back up within minutes, they knew immediately it was a false alarm.
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How do you know Trump was scared? I'm sure he was exhilarated; amped on his own ego.
Well I'd be scared shitless until I found out what really happened...but I'm not as brave as some on this thread who can make fun after the facts are know,
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Wouldn't his be a hoot if it was just another Trump supporter that got laid into because of the mass paranoia of his mob?
It would appear that's exactly what it was.
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Well I'd be scared shitless until I found out what really happened...but I'm not as brave as some on this thread who can make fun after the facts are know,
That's because you're a real person, not a psychopath.
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Kinda smells like this:
C. J. Cary , a long time Trump supporter, was kicked out of his Kinston, rally in North Carolina on Wednesday
The Republican presidential candidate had mistaken him for a protester
'By the way, were you paid $1,500 to be a thug?' Trump asked him
Cary was then escorted from the event by security as audience cheered
Despite being forced to leave the rally Cary says he is still voting for Trump
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3887156/Get-Trumps-mistakes-black-supporter-protester-rally-kicks-out.html#ixzz4PByPsQD5
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There was an article a while back that the signs are placed there for the audience, especially those which are in sight of the camera. People aren't allowed to bring in their own signs.
This is not unusual at all. Most major campaigns do this to control the image (versus having 200 different colors and misspelled signs waiving in front of everyone).
I doubt he brought his own sign unless it was something he had rolled up in his jacket to sneak it in, which may have been what caused the panic. Guy pulling something out of his jacket, people can't tell what it is, someone screams gun, the rest is history.
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Benjamin Margiott
@BenMargiott
Just interviewed the man who was detained. He is a Republican who was holding a Republicans for Trump sign. I'll have details on @KRNV at 11
November 5: The day Donald Trump survived a sign.
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Kinda smells like this:
C. J. Cary , a long time Trump supporter, was kicked out of his Kinston, rally in North Carolina on Wednesday
The Republican presidential candidate had mistaken him for a protester
'By the way, were you paid $1,500 to be a thug?' Trump asked him
Cary was then escorted from the event by security as audience cheered
Despite being forced to leave the rally Cary says he is still voting for Trump
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3887156/Get-Trumps-mistakes-black-supporter-protester-rally-kicks-out.html#ixzz4PByPsQD5
That is exactly what came to mind when it was reported the perp had no weapon, just a sign.
I'm telling ya - Trump is all about the theatrics and the spectacle.
And he knows the average Joe Sixpack eats it up.
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Benjamin Margiott
@BenMargiott
Just interviewed the man who was detained. He is a Republican who was holding a Republicans for Trump sign. I'll have details on @KRNV at 11
November 5: The day Donald Trump survived a sign.
November 5: The day Hildabeast The Mao Pantsuit ran from rain and Herr Donald Trump survived a sign.
We are so freaking doomed….
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That is exactly what came to mind when it was reported the perp had no weapon, just a sign.
I'm telling ya - Trump is all about the theatrics and the spectacle.
And he knows the average Joe Sixpack eats it up.
Trust me, the God complex is going viral. Trump's supporters are so amped on his divinity that if they can't get him elected Savior of the U.S.A., they'll take martyrdom as a close second.
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We can't be too careful here.
Michele Fields tried to get him with a pen bomb once.
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Look how the story is already being re-written by some on twitter. (response comment by Adorable Deplorable)
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Non-college educated.
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And, of course, the amped-up are looking for a fight:
Trump Supporters Harass CNN Reporter At Rally
http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/11/05/trump-supporters-harass-cnn-reporter/
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Trump issued an appropriate response thanking the Secret Service (ie, someone must have wrote it for him)
Donald J. Trump Statement
"I would like to thank the United States Secret Service and the law enforcement resources in Reno and the state of Nevada for their fast and professional response. I also want to thank the many thousands of people present for their unwavering and unbelievable support. Nothing will stop us - we will make America great again!" - Donald J. Trump
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement13
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Tens of millions of Americans trust this trash:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwi4sQtUsAAzp2e.jpg)
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Laser focus. I wouldn't want to cross that one USSS agent.
(http://i.imgur.com/MwrnUhb.jpg)
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/snicker
A guy trying to raise a sign is scary. :facepalm2:
Free speech is scary ...
... to Trump's followers.
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They definitely deserve a Pulitzer for this non-reporting.
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We've kind of hit on it, but reading twitter and FR, the part about this that really disturbs me is the lack of discernment and willingness to jump on the train by so many people. I see this story being fabricated out of thin air and passed around like the Chinese story game.
Someone on FR just wrote an entire narrative about this....
The people in the rally said he had a gun. They said he had it in a holster and the people around him spotted it and held his arm down where he couldn’t fire it until the Secret Service got there.
...and now everyone is passing that story around like it is the truth. Who knows how the story will change in five minutes.
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Seems to me Trump supporters playing this up as an assassination attempt are playing a very dangerous game. The "Boy Who Cried Wolf" comes to mind.
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No wonder Trump was spooked. The guy with the sign looks like Evan McMullin:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwi99eOUkAAUQka.jpg)
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And, of course, the amped-up are looking for a fight:
Trump Supporters Harass CNN Reporter At Rally
http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2016/11/05/trump-supporters-harass-cnn-reporter/
It's like watching old 1930's newsreels come to life in a digital age.
We're reliving a nightmare - and no one believes it.
Because people think human nature no longer applies in a technological age where morality and foundations are irrelevant and politicians are messiahs when government becomes god.
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No wonder Trump was spooked. The guy with the sign looks like Evan McMullin:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwi99eOUkAAUQka.jpg)
So if he is already out talking to reporters, that is pretty much a confirmation it was a false alarm.
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Nathan Wurtzel
@NathanWurtzel Nathan Wurtzel Retweeted Rob Gobbler
We need to consider the possibility that some of Trump's supporters are, and I am going to use code here, ot-nay art-smay.
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Junior retweeted the assassination attempt tweet too:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
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Twitter said the guy tried to grab the SS agent's gun? :shrug:
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Twitter said the guy tried to grab the SS agent's gun? :shrug:
If that would have happened he would be under arrest.
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Twitter said the guy tried to grab the SS agent's gun? :shrug:
Well if Twitter said it... LOL...
He is already free, outside talking to reporters.
If he did, he would be in custody.
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If that would have happened he would be under arrest.
Neatly handcuffed to his hospital bed.
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We've kind of hit on it, but reading twitter and FR, the part about this that really disturbs me is the lack of discernment and willingness to jump on the train by so many people. I see this story being fabricated out of thin air and passed around like the Chinese story game.
Someone on FR just wrote an entire narrative about this....
...and now everyone is passing that story around like it is the truth. Who knows how the story will change in five minutes.
@AbaraXas
I took a glance over there. It's as crazy as you'd expect...Hillary put out a contract on Trump, it was a false flag operation, the cameras swept away from Trump as it happened because it's a media conspiracy, etc. Someone was proud of the audience for not "tearing him apart."
One guy posted that it might not have been an assassination attempt and someone responded, "Pitiful FR commentary."
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CNN is reporting that even though, the guy apparently did not have a gun, people thought the accused did have a gun and were even saying "gun" and you could hear them.
Maybe they have it wrong and he was rushing up to fall down at Donald Trumps feet in reverence.
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Twitter said the guy tried to grab the SS agent's gun? :shrug:
Twitter also said "Hillary ran away from rain today. Trump is back on stage minutes after assassination attempt."
If it's on twitter, does that make it true?
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I for one am thankful that this is all that happened...I would hate to see anyone killed or hurt.
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This guy finished his speech with the bullet still in him.
(https://ephemeralnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/teddyroosevelt.jpg)
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The only way to stop a bad guy with a sign is a good guy with a sign.
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Twitter also said "Hillary ran away from rain today. Trump is back on stage minutes after assassination attempt."
If it's on twitter, does that make it true?
Just asking a question. I'm not following the story on TV or anything. Calm down.
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TWITTERPATED.
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Just asking a question. I'm not following the story on TV or anything. Calm down.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
My apologies. I overreacted to your post.
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You shouda seen all those SS guys when Carter came out here to dedicate the Hungry Horse Dam.
Every single vehicle was a pickup truck (driven by a Conservative, generally), and every single pickup truck had at least two rifles in the gun-rack in the back window.
Security liked to have sh*t bricks. Tried to shove parking back out of range... But this is Montana, and there was big iron hanging in the rack - Needlessly push the parking back what, two miles, and there ain't anybody wants to walk in, and there goes the photo op... Finally just let it be. Went off without a hitch - guns and all.
Different times.
Saner times.
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You shouda seen all those SS guys when Carter came out here to dedicate the Hungry Horse Dam.
Every single vehicle was a pickup truck (driven by a Conservative, generally), and every single pickup truck had at least two rifles in the gun-rack in the back window.
Security liked to have sh*t bricks. Tried to shove parking back out of range... But this is Montana, and there was big iron hanging in the rack - Needlessly push the parking back what, two miles, and there ain't anybody wants to walk in, and there goes the photo op... Finally just let it be. Went off without a hitch - guns and all.
Different times.
Saner times.
Yep can you imagine the carnage in that arena tonight if those folks were armed? Sad to think what they will do to the 2A if given the chance...
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Secret Service doesn't mess around.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwitQOTWIAA_TV4.jpg)
Here is the thing, no matter what you think of the person, an attack on the President (or a candidate) is an attack on the US. Not saying it was a true attempt versus a scare, I have no clue. But we are not a third world despot nation where we swap out leaders through lead or rope. We have a Constitutional system to deal with these things.
Hopefully it was just a scare.
Well said.
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Yeah because we know eyewitness reports are always accurate.
And CNN would never EEEVER run with a story before they had all the facts.
I wonder who Trump will take to Twitter and blame for this?
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And CNN would never EEEVER run with a story before they had all the facts.
I wonder who Trump will take to Twitter and blame for this?
Well, if he runs true to form he'll manage to put both feet in his mouth in a truly spectacular fashion.
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Benjamin Margiott
@BenMargiott
Just interviewed the man who was detained. He is a Republican who was holding a Republicans for Trump sign. I'll have details on @KRNV at 11
November 5: The day Donald Trump survived a sign.
He's battle tested like Hitlery was tested by the snipers in Bosnia.
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The guy with the sign was identified. He posted this on Facebook.
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/critespost.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all)
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More info on Crites.
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/austyn-crites-donald-trump-reno-nevada-polls-rally-austin-protester-video-rushed-off-stage-secret-service-republican-democrat-dnc-hillary-clinton-plant-allegations/
Registered Republican but Hillary supporter. Had sign that said Republicans Against Trump. Said the police actually saved him from the audience.
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Paul Lewis @PaulLewis
Austin told me he was punched, kicked. Someone grabbed his testicles and he his neck was in a chokehold. He said he feared for his life.
Paul Lewis
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@PaulLewis
He says he's a Republican. He said he was terrified by how the crowd responded: "I was in survival mode. I knew I could die at that moment."
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that was some sloppy wooden DRAMA!
badly choreographed,,... badly scripted....wooednly acted!
no one who knows SPIT would have taken him across the STAGE,,,,so as to remain in the lien of any possible FIRE
bad fiction YUGELY bad FICTION!!
real security pros would have taken him to the FLOOR out os SIGHT..and out of the line fire IMMEDIATELY!!
the SUNDAY MORNING TALK SHOWS will have the TRUMP BRAND ON all day tomorrow!!!
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Crites told NBC16 “When I pulled out the sign, people around me were trying to grab the sign. And so all that was occurring was booing, of course, that’s what you would expect.” He told the TV station the situation suddenly escalated: “…bam, I get tackled by all these people who were just, like, kicking me and grabbing me in the crotch and just, just beating the crap out of me.” Them, he said, somebody yelled about a gun and “things really got out of hand.”
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While we all know the Trump militant are thirsty for blood and vengeance under the promises of payback and retribution - I am not STUPID ENOUGH to go to a Hillary rally with a sign saying "Arrest the traitor!"
Going to a Trump rally to protest Trump is as stupid as one gets, I don't care what party you come from.
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While we all know the Trump militant are thirsty for blood and vengeance under the promises of payback and retribution - I am not STUPID ENOUGH to go to a Hillary rally with a sign saying "Arrest the traitor!"
Going to a Trump rally to protest Trump is as stupid as one gets, I don't care what party you come from.
the donny wants us to believe that an attack was imminent! it makes for BIGLY TV!! BIGLY TV which is after what his entire campaign has been about!!
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It was not an assassination attempt.
Glenn Thrush @GlennThrush 13m13 minutes ago
Thank god Trump is okay. Hopefully he'll tamp down the negativity and discourage confrontation at his events by singling out reporters etc
I agree ... some guy in a blue sweater was arrested by secret service but I think he just shouted stuff. And I don't thank God that he is okay. There are people on my prayer list far more worthy of God's protection.
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Thanks RIV for posting this....apparently some here have forgotten how Bobby Kennedy died.
Mystery... I don't think anyone has forgotten that but this guy was no real threat apparently. He didn't have a gun or any way to actually do harm to Trump. Maybe we'll find out more later.
Any sort of physical threat to a politician is wrong, wrong, wrong. We are not a third world country.
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Benjamin Margiott
@BenMargiott
Just interviewed the man who was detained. He is a Republican who was holding a Republicans for Trump sign. I'll have details on @KRNV at 11
November 5: The day Donald Trump survived a sign.
A date that will go down in infamy.
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We can't be too careful here.
Michele Fields tried to get him with a pen bomb once.
I had forgotten that. It was only due to the heroics of that Cory person that Trump escaped an ink stain on that expensive suit.
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For being such an overall snot, Donald doesn't seem to be all that brave.
Ever met a brave bully? I haven't. :tongue2:
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It is hard for me to say. I haven't known a lot of bullies. ...
I've known more than quite a few. They all operate much the same way.
I was the smallest kid in school until I was a Senior in High School. All through grade school and Jr. High, every other day I found myself getting my head punched in, ambushed, lunch and books stolen, simply because I was the smallest kid. I didn't talk much - never started any trouble, but I refused from an early age to give in to threats. I would never just hand over my lunch money, or step out of line to let the bullies get in front. So I took a beating. Lots of them. Almost always from more than one at a time - and the older bigger ones would put up their younger proteges to do the deeds. My parents were pacifists and otherwise did not care, as long as they were not bothered. I was on my own to fend for myself. And back then, snitching and crying to the principal was the worst thing someone could do for shame's sake.
In 7th grade I signed up for Tae Kwon Do class taught by a marine at a local church basement twice a week after school. He was a good instructor - and put the fear of using our training for anything other than self defense at the forefront of every lesson. I began to enjoy the science of fighting and combat and I began a lifelong pursuit and study of those arts. After we had moved I found a Dojang teaching the same style I began with by a Korean master. He too made it very clear that if he ever heard of a school fight being fought by one of us that we could not walk away from or talk ourselves out of - he would put us on the mat and put us in our place himself.
I never let myself use my training until I was a Jr. in High School - I continued to allow myself to get shoved around, books knocked out of my hands and the occasional threat of a scheduled fight simply because I would stare someone down trying to bully me or someone else. I never had to say anything - just stare them down and refuse to look down or look afraid. That was often enough for them to ignore me or forget they issued a fight date that afternoon after school.
But one day - one big fella who was the ultimate high school bully and burn out - decided to follow up on a threat made in a bathroom after insulting my genitals (because pee-pee insults are the hallmark of confident masculinity I guess) whereby I asked him how he could know unless he was looking. He did not like that lack of 'respect'. So he told me he would be waiting for me after school. And that day - he and more than half the student body were indeed waiting for me at the front of the school. I tried to walk way - suffered the calls of 'chicken' and took the first shove and then the first hit which busted my often busted schnoz. After that - my training went to work, and I really hurt that guy. Sparring with pads on a mat is one thing. Street fighting is another. I ended up balling my eyeballs out in front of the whole group of classmates out there when the fight was over - and the dean had me look at what I did to the guy. I felt horrible. People thought I was nuts - to fight a guy who started a fight and end up crying about it.
But then I learned something afterwards - for that was the first and last time at high school, anyone ever picked on me again. I was given some space, and made a few friends who had their own run-ins with the bully in the past. I learned that most of those years of being a victim was because I was the one who let people push me around - because I never stood up for what was right. Often you telegraph to people how much abuse you are willing to take.
There are lots of bullies out there. But I do not suffer or tolerate one anymore. Bullies do what they do because they get away with it often without consequences. I do not let them get away with it. I may lose a fight - but they are going to hurt attempting to inflict what damage they think they can. Most of the time they are covering up their own insecurities with stupid bravado. Bullies generally are not brave. Often they bully in packs or in front of crowds for attention. But get them one on one, or pop them when they go too far - watch them threaten, intimidate and then demand safe spaces for themselves as we have been witness to lo these many months right here on this board.
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I was made fun of for being fat now and then, but nobody ever truly bullied me in school that I can recall. Of course, I'm a big guy. Well, I did get in a fight with a kid next door (Larry Wheeler I still remember you!) once but it wasn't a school thing.
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Yeah, so patriotic that he has all of the merchandise he sells made overseas. Idiot.
I still don't get any anyone can be over the top all in for this guy.
A reluctant, hold your nose and vote because the alternative is Hillary? Yeah while I'm not doing that, I can at least understand or respect that.
But the guy is a charlatan who one just hopes if he's elected somehow manages not to mess up if the American people hold him accountable.
Even that isn't promising, as his base holds him accountable for literally nothing.
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Look how the story is already being re-written by some on twitter. (response comment by Adorable Deplorable)
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Morons
Yeah everyone is lying but them. The media is lying. The people who detained the guy is lying. The guy himself is lying.
"Deplorables" are the only ones who know the truth.
My gosh the people in this country have been hit with a serious case of the stupid.
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Tens of millions of Americans trust this trash:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwi4sQtUsAAzp2e.jpg)
They shouldn't.
I was reading into Alex Jones for my show that I do on Sundays right now. I didn't work it in actually last week. But not only has he been wrong so many times- even though I heard his show cutting in to a local station and he said he "shocks people with the truth and as time goes on he's proven right"
But the guy literally put himself into the public eye by lying and fear mongering about Y2K- saying nuclear reactors were already shutting down and they weren't.
The guy supposedly exposes the globalists and New World Order types and causes all these problems for them and even goes to their meetings with a bullhorn yelling threats at them and they just leave him alone. Probably because a.) He's actually working for them. Or b.)They know he's a crazy person.
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They need acting lessons
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Okay I don't find this guy supporting Hillary and "fearing for his life" very credible either.
Just one of those lousy years I suppose.
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While we all know the Trump militant are thirsty for blood and vengeance under the promises of payback and retribution - I am not STUPID ENOUGH to go to a Hillary rally with a sign saying "Arrest the traitor!"
Going to a Trump rally to protest Trump is as stupid as one gets, I don't care what party you come from.
Yep- as a human and a Christian I'm glad everyone is okay.
But this guy is still a loon himself.
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So good news then. No actual assassination attempt, no real threat. Just the audience being jumpy and the Secret Service doing their job.
Hurray for the Secret Service. They really do a good job taking care of our leaders and their families. :patriot:
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I wasn't the smallest kid in school, but I was close to being one of the skinniest. I never got into what I would call a fight, but I got punched a couple times. I would face off, not back down, and maybe I would get hit, but that would be the end of it. Junior High was a war zone. There were students?/Men that towered above everyone else. Not graduating to the next level, they were stuck in Junior High until they dropped out of school.
I taught my children to not back down. That didn't go over too well with my Wife, after getting multiple calls from the Catholic School about our Son. Why does the defender get in trouble?
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The guy supposedly exposes the globalists and New World Order types and causes all these problems for them and even goes to their meetings with a bullhorn yelling threats at them and they just leave him alone. Probably because a.) He's actually working for them. Or b.)They know he's a crazy person.
A.
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A.
You're probably right.
But then, silly me, I forgot one.
c.) He's both.
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Remember the Andy Griffith Show where Opie was troubled by a bully stealing his lunch money? Standing up and defending yourself used to be the normal teaching for boys. You see it over and over again in movies and television. Now I'm afraid boys are taught to not defend themselves. In this 2016 world where liberals have redefined norms, it's bad to be a boy. They just try to turn boys into girls. I'm not saying fighting each other is a good thing, though it is a draw back to the nature of boyhood. I'm saying that learning inner strength and the ability to defend yourself is a good thing, regardless of the bad origin that makes you need to learn it. Human nature is what it is. Those boys grow up now and when they face a doofus like Trump, they want to hire him as their bully when what they should really do is stand up to him and reject him.
No bullies are encouraged to make those stupid youtube videos where the kid holds up a cards tell their stories. Or make a hashtag.
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The man dared to hold up an anti Trump sign. The crowd began booing him and then moved on him to take him down.
No dissent allowed in Baghdad, don't you know. And then there he is Uday insisting it was an assassination attempt.
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[...] they issued a fight date that afternoon after school.
I've been there DOZENS of times. And I got whupped most of them. My old man taught me to never back up if I am right, and early on, that put me right in the line of fire - without any firepower - and while I learned how to fight because of it, I sure did it the hard way.
I was 5'1" and hovering around 100 lbs till the summer between 9th and 10th grade. That 3 months made a considerable difference. By the beginning of school in the fall, I was 6'1" and heading toward 200lbs, settling in, within a year or two, to 6'2", 275lbs, XXXLT, and not a stitch of fat... Whereupon I began to exact vengeance upon those who bullied their way around... and I do that to this day. It's kinda a thing.... Give a 98 lb weakling an extra 150 lbs and the retard-strength that comes from throwing hay bales and wrestling calves and etc... He makes one helluva wreck out of bullies.
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They shouldn't.
I was reading into Alex Jones for my show that I do on Sundays right now. I didn't work it in actually last week. But not only has he been wrong so many times- even though I heard his show cutting in to a local station and he said he "shocks people with the truth and as time goes on he's proven right"
But the guy literally put himself into the public eye by lying and fear mongering about Y2K- saying nuclear reactors were already shutting down and they weren't.
The guy supposedly exposes the globalists and New World Order types and causes all these problems for them and even goes to their meetings with a bullhorn yelling threats at them and they just leave him alone. Probably because a.) He's actually working for them. Or b.)They know he's a crazy person.
I believe Jones was right about something once, but hasn't been right since. My favorite conspiracy theory of his was that Sandy Hook was a hoax, that no one died, but rather, the victims are all being held in some FEMA camp. Uh, yeah, right.
And Jones also helped spread the bogus story that Rafael Cruz conspired with Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate JFK.
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The guy says that rallygoers were grabbing his testicles. I didn't know there were so many perverts at Trump rallies. Must be the Milo contingent.
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For being such an overall snot, Donald doesn't seem to be all that brave.
@RAT Patrol
I wish I could find the article I read months ago about a trip he made to the border last summer; it was written up in some small local Texas paper. Trump refused to get out of his plane until someone could assure him he was in no danger. There you have the alpha to end all alphas, Alexander the Great/Winston Churchill/George Washington all in one person.
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James Cook @BBCJamesCook 12h12 hours ago
Austyn Crites says
1. I held up Republicans against Trump sign.
2. I was kicked and choked.
3. Someone shouted gun.
4. I was saved by cops.
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No bullies are encouraged to make those stupid youtube videos where the kid holds up a cards tell their stories. Or make a hashtag.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
They need to take a lesson from Ralphie and the way he handled Scut Farkus in "A Christmas Story."
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The guy says that rallygoers were grabbing his testicles. I didn't know there were so many perverts at Trump rallies. Must be the Milo contingent.
Hey, gropers gotta grope, right!
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Hurray for the Secret Service. They really do a good job taking care of our leaders and their families. :patriot:
Yes, they do!
And they did so last night when a guy rushed toward the stage while reaching for something in his back pocket.
Kudos to the guys who prevented him from reaching the stage. We all learned that lesson on 9/11.
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Hey, gropers gotta grope, right!
SAD!
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Dangerous madman at Trump rally escorted off stage by Secret Service:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cwi4rEqUcAAQyA7.jpg)
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Yes, they do!
And they did so last night when a guy rushed toward the stage while reaching for something in his back pocket.
Kudos to the guys who prevented him from reaching the stage. We all learned that lesson on 9/11.
There was nothing in his back pocket and NOBODY has made that accusation.
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There was nothing in his back pocket and NOBODY has made that accusation.
According to Trump media, somebody better check the wing pockets of this assassin too.
(http://i0.wp.com/i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RyHaZLQn--/sbs5euxulidjjercwfaq.gif?resize=630%2C359)
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Yes, they do!
And they did so last night when a guy rushed toward the stage while reaching for something in his back pocket.
Kudos to the guys who prevented him from reaching the stage. We all learned that lesson on 9/11.
So that's how the story has evolved now?
I assume you believe that completely, right?
Everyone remember last night I mentioned the Chinese Story Game and how this storyline would change. Well here you go.
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There was nothing in his back pocket and NOBODY has made that accusation.
Chinese story game.
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WOW.....how scary....can't find it anyplace on tv
@mystery-ak
Just got on this thread so haven't read all of it - I saw him rushed offstage. Bob tells me this morning, someone in the audience yelled, "Gun!", and that is why he was covered with Secret Service and it looked like he was almost dragged off covered with SS men. Bob says the place was locked down and searched for a gun which wasn't there and the rally started again.
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So it was an over reaction..the SS did their job...next time it may be for real...
Maybe not a overreaction
this guy is a well known nut/bird dog for Hillery
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/update-trump-attacker-birddogging-hillary-mentioned-wikileaks/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3909514/Donald-Trump-rushed-away-Secret-Service-speaking-Reno-rally.html
Looks like to me Hillery and her lackeys in the media wanted a riot so they could point how violent Trump's People are
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And so the false meme continues to try and go viral.
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According to Trump media, somebody better check the wing pockets of this assassin too.
(http://i0.wp.com/i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RyHaZLQn--/sbs5euxulidjjercwfaq.gif?resize=630%2C359)
LOL!
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Maybe not a overreaction
this guy is a well known nut/bird dog for Hillery
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/update-trump-attacker-birddogging-hillary-mentioned-wikileaks/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3909514/Donald-Trump-rushed-away-Secret-Service-speaking-Reno-rally.html
Looks like to me Hillery and her lackeys in the media wanted a riot so they could point how violent Trump's People are
Then they got their wish because the Trump people demonstrated just how violent they are when confronted by a sign they don't like. I much more concerned about people who think mob violence is an acceptable response to provocative speech they do not like than I am about someone who tries to tweak your nose with a provocative sign. This country can survive twits with provocative signs. It cannot survive mob violence being used to silence people the mob disagrees with.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0)
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There was nothing in his back pocket and NOBODY has made that accusation.
Yes, Sink, that was where he kept the anti-Trump sign he was going to wave,
You're getting tiresome, Sink. Just tiresome. **nononono*
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So that's how the story has evolved now?
I assume you believe that completely, right?
Everyone remember last night I mentioned the Chinese Story Game and how this storyline would change. Well here you go.
RIV spends a lot of time at TOS, seems she has unwittingly evolved into our connection with unreality... :laugh:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0)
Very nice.
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Well I'd be scared shitless until I found out what really happened...but I'm not as brave as some on this thread who can make fun after the facts are know,
@mystery-ak
Yes, I remember the film of Robert Kennedy getting shot and killed in an instant. One minute he is fine, and in another second, he is dead.
John Kennedy was fine in the unprotected car in a Dallas parade, and the next second, his head explodes and he is dead. No president has been in an open car since that time.
I detest what Trump is, but he could also be dead in a second so I would never make fun of a situation like this. The SS men can't cover his body every second of the day so he is a target for the unhinged to try to take him out.
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Yes, they do!
And they did so last night when a guy rushed toward the stage while reaching for something in his back pocket.
Kudos to the guys who prevented him from reaching the stage. We all learned that lesson on 9/11.
You're pathetic.
We saw the video - the idiot never 'rushed towards the stage while reaching for something in his back pocket'. The idiot had a sign, and the crowd went off on him before the SS began jumping the barrier to the stage to get to him.
You are purveying a boldfaced lie.
I guess par-for-the course for Trump supporters.
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November 5: The day Hildabeast The Mao Pantsuit ran from rain and Herr Donald Trump survived a sign.
We are so freaking doomed….
@INVAR
No, Clinton did not run from the rain. I watched that and the rain was pouring down, some people had something over their heads, like umbrellas or signs or paper of some kind, and many had nothing and were getting soaked and she was standing there with nothing, her suit was getting saturated with water, but she spoke, no running from rain, and then she left. It was raining so hard, it made sense to cut that short. I wondered why someone did not produce an umbrella for her.
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Glad Trump survived the sign.
Well, I reckon he might have one less supporter.
What's that about Liberals and getting mugged? USSS? Over a sign? I reckon there's nothing like sending the very best...
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Unless they have an example like that, women don't understand what boys go through.
Boys today go through nothing like we did growing up. Not a good thing either. I'm glad I had the crap kicked out of me growing up, because I learned to stand up for what is right regardless of the cost.
But today's boys….they've been emasculated, drugged and feminized at an early age by public indoctrination centers and a leftist culture that has nearly criminalized masculinity. They have been indoctrinated to think they are sexual predators and suffer prejudice that they willingly buy into. The anti-bullying crap at schools have made standing up for oneself impossible because the school administration will employ social justice on everyone's behalf.
Just trying to deprogram my nephew from all the bunk his head has been filled with has been a frustration-level event. His idea of confrontation is playing Call of Duty, and he quits difficult situations to go sit and sulk rather than work through the problem, because they taught him that his answers are never really wrong, even when they are.
Because we learned to deal with scraps and bullies growing up, our generation could actually fight a world war with REAL bullies, but this generation will cry, surrender and demand a safe space. I'm sure ISIS will comply with their request to be left alone - don't you?
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@INVAR
No, Clinton did not run from the rain. I watched that and the rain was pouring down, some people had something over their heads, like umbrellas or signs or paper of some kind, and many had nothing and were getting soaked and she was standing there with nothing, her suit was getting saturated with water, but she spoke, no running from rain, and then she left. It was raining so hard, it made sense to cut that short. I wondered why someone did not produce an umbrella for her.
Maybe they were hoping she'd melt...
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@INVAR
No, Clinton did not run from the rain. I watched that and the rain was pouring down, some people had something over their heads, like umbrellas or signs or paper of some kind, and many had nothing and were getting soaked and she was standing there with nothing, her suit was getting saturated with water, but she spoke, no running from rain, and then she left. It was raining so hard, it made sense to cut that short. I wondered why someone did not produce an umbrella for her.
My bad. Last I read she canceled due to rain.
Let me refresh my slogan:
November 5: The day Hildabeast, The Mao Pantsuit was shown to be all wet and Herr Donald Trump survived a sign.
We are all freaking doomed.
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Yes, Sink, that was where he kept the anti-Trump sign he was going to wave,
Assassination attempt with a sign?
Was he going to paper cut him to death?
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Yes, Sink, that was where he kept the anti-Trump sign he was going to wave,
You're getting tiresome, Sink. Just tiresome. **nononono*
Nope. He was holding the sign already.
This whole mess is ending in two days. Hopefully, you'll come to your senses after your boy goes down and we can regain some rationality from the Trumpkins.
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Well I'd be scared shitless until I found out what really happened...but I'm not as brave as some on this thread who can make fun after the facts are know,
Yup
Kudos to the Secret Service men and their quick actions at the time
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Brave people react with speed but not fear. IMO. You get scared later.
When I was about 20 years old I was followed home by some creepy guy who came up behind me and grabbed me. I reacted with anger, to be honest. I screamed at him. Then he backed off and said "ok ok.." but tried to do it again. I turned as fast as I could and swung my let back ready to kick him where it would count. He ran off. When I got to my apartment I was scared to death. I couldn't afford the luxury of fear until then.
That's what adrenaline is for. Gives you that no-fear rush for a few seconds or so, then pent up fear hits you like a ton of bricks when the rush is over.
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I don't think sink is a cold-hearted person. I just think he doesn't see that this was a real threat. I don't think he wishes assassination on anybody. But there was no gun. I've never heard of anyone dying from being hit with a sign. It was a real exercise in a potential threat, but as we learn the facts, there was never a REAL threat.
just sayin'.
:thumbsup:
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A guy holding up a sign is a real threat, lol.
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Yes, Sink, that was where he kept the anti-Trump sign he was going to wave,
You're getting tiresome, Sink. Just tiresome. **nononono*
Hahaha.
Keeps his sign in a back pocket.
Must have been a tiny sign as back pockets aren't large.
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Nope. He was holding the sign already.
This whole mess is ending in two days. Hopefully, you'll come to your senses after your boy goes down and we can regain some rationality from the Trumpkins.
Doubtful.
I'd hazard a number will grab their guns and try to shoot up any government institution they can find.
Then they'll be shot be the police or someone that isn't a nutcase.
The TOS will likely be posting death notices for months.
That's the insanity level of Trump's hard-core base.
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Doubtful.
I'd hazard a number will grab their guns and try to shoot up any government institution they can find.
Then they'll be shot be the police or someone that isn't a nutcase.
The TOS will likely be posting death notices for months.
That's the insanity level of Trump's hard-core base.
Either way the election goes, Wednesday is going to be a very interesting day. You have two polar opposite groups who have been riled up with conspiracy and anger- The Trumps on one side, BLM on the other, both ready for a fight. Both sides have worked themselves up to believe their future is totally dependent on someone from DC helping them, and that person has to win.
I don't see how Wednesday is a slow news day unless the losing candidate makes an impassioned plea for civility or Dancing with the Honey Boo Boo's Duck Hunters premiers and distracts everyone.