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MCCAIN: SHOUTING ‘ALLAHU AKHBAR!’ SAME AS CHRISTIANS SHOUTING ‘THANK GOD!’
by Ben Shapiro, Breitbart | published on September 4, 2013
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On Tuesday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) suggested that Fox News host Brian Kilmeade was Islamaphobic because he said that Syrian opposition groups shouting “Allahu Akhbar! Allahu Akhbar!†as rockets hit government offices demonstrated Islamist influence among the opposition.
“I have a problem helping those people screaming that after a hit,†Kilmeade said. McCain responded: “Would you have a problem with an American or Christians saying ‘thank God? Thank God?’†He added, “That’s what they’re saying. Come on! Of course they’re Muslims, but they’re moderates and I guarantee you they are moderates.†McCain provided no evidence to suggest that Syrian opposition groups are moderate, as opposed to the wide swath of evidence suggesting that the opposition is heavily infested with al Qaeda.
Read more at 1776 Coalition: http://www.1776coalition.com/featured-content/mccain-shouting-allahu-akhbar-same-as-christians-shouting-thank-god/#ixzz4UcXu1rSY
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We're stuck with him for another six years. Thanks, Arizona!
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We're stuck with him for another six years. Thanks, Arizona!
Poor John...Slowly sinking into the abyss that is senility.
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Well, it is.
Except when Christians shout "Thank God" it is because someone is safe, or healed, or their life has improved.
When Muslims shout "Thank God" it is because their death cult has decapitated another unbeliever, or thrown another homo off a building, or they convinced another 10 year old girl to blow themselves up on a bus.
So he's not wrong - it just actually highlights the problem with Islam as a whole.
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No.
It's the equivalent of saying "Praise Jesus" or "Praise the Lord".
As in "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".
Only the Islamist's ammo tends to be bombs instead of bullets. And their targets tend to be civilians.
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No.
It's the equivalent of saying "Praise Jesus" or "Praise the Lord".
As in "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".
Only the Islamist's ammo tends to be bombs instead of bullets. And their targets tend to be civilians.
It would be the equivalent of "Jesus is greater" as in greater than your God, not "praise the Lord'" which is a simple expression of gratitude.
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Well, it is.
Except when Christians shout "Thank God" it is because someone is safe, or healed, or their life has improved.
When Muslims shout "Thank God" it is because their death cult has decapitated another unbeliever, or thrown another homo off a building, or they convinced another 10 year old girl to blow themselves up on a bus.
So he's not wrong - it just actually highlights the problem with Islam as a whole.
Agreed. He's speaking a literal truth. Unfortunately when Muslims say it someone is either about to blow up or has recently blown up.
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I don't know if it would be said per many walks of life in the Islamic world, if one might say it at times, like "Oh My God" I don't know.
But if one disagrees with this, it is curious that Spanish has a word that many think, basically comes from the Moor Muslim occupation of Spain in the evolution of the Spanish language and mentions per some people, a variance of Allah.
Ojalá which I'm sure many have heard.
http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/ojal%C3%A1
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So, if Muslims were playing a soccer game or something, would they ever say that? I don't know. They also say something like Al Salam. And also "God is great" or something.
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McCain does not know, understand or even has read up on Islam. "Allah Akhbar" is often translated as "God is great". That is not correct. The actual translation is "Allah is greater". It's use in the middle east is often when something bad is about to happen as a prayer for intended outcome or after something bad has happened as a means of reassurance to those around.
In the later case, say when some bomb blows up and many injured. "Allah Akhbar" is shouted by those that can to remind everyone that Allah is in control of the situation and all will unfold according to Allah's will. This is one of the reason that followers of Islam take little if any personal responsibility - because it is Allah's will. Little children in the west often say "The devil made me do it." This is the same attempt to ditch responsibility.
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Really. I was unaware that Christian's shout "thank God" before and during the commission of mass murder I must have missed that part in Sunday school
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It would be the equivalent of "Jesus is greater" as in greater than your God, not "praise the Lord'" which is a simple expression of gratitude.
Exactly. Allah does not equate to "God", and allahu akhbar, means "Allah is greatest".
And, this is silly - who says "thank God" as they are spraying a crowd of innocents with bullets, or driving a truck into a crowd, or cutting off someone's head?
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Exactly. Allah does not equate to "God", and allahu akhbar, means "Allah is greatest".
And, this is silly - who says "thank God" as they are spraying a crowd of innocents with bullets, or driving a truck into a crowd, or cutting off someone's head?
McCain is an idiot. McCain, Pelosi, and at least a dozen others in Congress are obviously showing signs of their age. They need to retire. Our entire government is being ruled by seventy and eighty year olds. It is becoming absurd, as Harry Reid and others have pointed out lately. I do not believe that the founders ever had the intent that the same people would stay in Congress for hundred freakin' years. And the only way the ever leave is to go to jail, become a lobbyist, or feet first out of their office door in a coffin.
In fact my historical understanding is that during the time of the founding, serving in Congress was a burden. And back then people did it as a civil duty. It was never intended to be a lifelong profession as it is now. From what I have read which was written by the founders, I get the impression that they couldn't imagine anyone actually wanting to stay in government for more than a couple of years. There were simply too many better things to do.
Trump said that he was considering ways to change this situation. We shall see.
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Poor John...Slowly sinking into the abyss that is senility.
Senator for Life. He's working the Ted Kennedy plan, where he leaves office tits up and feet first. The mind took the walk a couple of terms ago.
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McCain is an idiot. McCain, Pelosi, and at least a dozen others in Congress are obviously showing signs of their age. They need to retire. Our entire government is being ruled by seventy and eighty year olds. It is becoming absurd, as Harry Reid and others have pointed out lately. I do not believe that the founders ever had the intent that the same people would stay in Congress for hundred freakin' years. And the only way the ever leave is to go to jail, become a lobbyist, or feet first out of their office door in a coffin.
In fact my historical understanding is that during the time of the founding, serving in Congress was a burden. And back then people did it as a civil duty. It was never intended to be a lifelong profession as it is now. From what I have read which was written by the founders, I get the impression that they couldn't imagine anyone actually wanting to stay in government for more than a couple of years. There were simply too many better things to do.
Trump said that he was considering ways to change this situation. We shall see.
Ever heard of "Representation by Lot?" It's where random names of citizens are drawn to send to Congress. It has its appeal.
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Senator for Life. He's working the Ted Kennedy plan, where he leaves office tits up and feet first. The mind took the walk a couple of terms ago.
For the life of me I don't understand why more of these old "Public servants" don't just stoke out on the job. Probably the lack of stress.
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Ever heard of "Representation by Lot?" It's where random names of citizens are drawn to send to Congress. It has its appeal.
Cincinnatus
Supposedly, Cincinnatus was a conservative opponent of the rights of the plebeians who fell into penury because of his son's violent opposition to their desire for a written code of equitably-enforced laws. Despite his old age, he worked his own small farm until an invasion prompted his fellow citizens to call for his leadership. He came from his plough to assume complete control over the state but, upon achieving a swift victory, relinquished his power and its perquisites and returned to his farm. His success and immediate resignation of his near-absolute authority with the end of this crisis (traditionally dated to 458 BC) has often been cited as an example of outstanding leadership, service to the greater good, civic virtue, lack of personal ambition, and modesty. As a result, he has inspired a number of organizations and other entities, some named in his honor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius_Quinctius_Cincinnatus
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For the life of me I don't understand why more of these old "Public servants" don't just stoke out on the job. Probably the lack of stress.
Nice exercise facilities & cafeteria, substantial per diem, and the best healthcare your money can buy.
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Nice exercise facilities & cafeteria, substantial per diem, and the best healthcare your money can buy.
Not to mention establishing wealth from connections. Many of them come to DC with little financial wealth, and leave with much financial wealth.
Or from the time they serve, have connections to soon obtain financial wealth as lobbyists, consultants, board members etc.
The Clinton Foundation is simply a larger scale "opportunity" compared with arrangements many have.
I have seen this on local scale. People serve on city councils, then get cushy positions with monopolies like trash collection firms, as one example.
Obama is staying in DC, for another example. His wealth has and will multiply rapidly.
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Nice exercise facilities & cafeteria, substantial per diem, and the best healthcare your money can buy.
Great work if you can find it!
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Senator for Life. He's working the Ted Kennedy plan, where he leaves office tits up and feet first. The mind took the walk a couple of terms ago.
Yeah, but if they cremated him would he burn with a blue flame like Teddy would have?
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For the life of me I don't understand why more of these old "Public servants" don't just stoke out on the job. Probably the lack of stress.
Just judging by the crap they pass, I'd say they are all medicated beyond reasonable levels.
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In the later case, say when some bomb blows up and many injured. "Allah Akhbar" is shouted by those that can to remind everyone that Allah is in control of the situation and all will unfold according to Allah's will. This is one of the reason that followers of Islam take little if any personal responsibility - because it is Allah's will. Little children in the west often say "The devil made me do it." This is the same attempt to ditch responsibility.
Google translator renders it "god news" ... which is close.
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Senility on parade. Trying to outdo DT with lunacy.
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Really. I was unaware that Christian's shout "thank God" before and during the commission of mass murder I must have missed that part in Sunday school
If only we could put McCain on 'ignore' like we can unpleasant members on this forum.
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McCain does not know, understand or even has read up on Islam. "Allah Akhbar" is often translated as "God is great". That is not correct. The actual translation is "Allah is greater". It's use in the middle east is often when something bad is about to happen as a prayer for intended outcome or after something bad has happened as a means of reassurance to those around.
In the later case, say when some bomb blows up and many injured. "Allah Akhbar" is shouted by those that can to remind everyone that Allah is in control of the situation and all will unfold according to Allah's will. This is one of the reason that followers of Islam take little if any personal responsibility - because it is Allah's will. Little children in the west often say "The devil made me do it." This is the same attempt to ditch responsibility.
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And the real important issue here is whether McCain knows what a moderate is. I won't say what pictures on the internet are true but there are several of McCain that say he was with ISIS. I think that we have done that so many times. Arming the enemy. Even training them. And arming them.
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Allah does not equate to "God", . . .
Looks like it's time for some basic Arabic lessons around here.
If one is speaking Arabic, Allah -- an elision of Al Illah, meaning literally "the god" -- is what any monotheist, Christian, Muslim or Jew, calls the one existing deity. The definite article elided with the general word for a god has the same force in Arabic as capitalizing god to yield God does in English. In Greek the same applies 'o theos, "the god" means the same as the English God. For instance the first phrase of the Orthodox Christian Trisagion prayers, in English "Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal have mercy on us!" in Greek " 'Agios 'o Theos, 'Agios ischyros, 'Agios athanatos, eleison imas!", runs in Arabic "Quddūsun Allāh, Quddūsun al-qawī, Quddūsun alladhī lā yamūt urḥamnā."
It is perfectly sound to translate "Allahu Akbar" from Arabic to English as "God is greater".
However, only Muslims will refer to God (as misconceived in their theology) as "Allah" when speaking languages other than Arabic (or Malay, where the Arabic word was adopted), following Mohammed's vain conceit that the Arabic word for God is the proper name of the one existing deity. A Christian who is bilingual Arabic-English will say "Allah" in Arabic and "God" in English, a bilingual Muslim will say "Allah" in both.
Of course McCain is being a complete fool here -- the phrase "Allahu Akbar" is a war cry, its first use being by Mohammed's troops at the Battle of Badr in 624. The nearest parallel I can think of for the phrase "Thank God" would be the line in the Agincourt Carol, "Deo gratias Anglia redde pro victoria!"
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Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Shikhs probably, with all of these faiths, there is relatively good will. This whole scenario is different but it is a big problem with ideology.
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Nice exercise facilities & cafeteria, substantial per diem, and the best healthcare your money can buy.
Aren't they exempt from insider trading laws?
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Poor John...Slowly sinking into the abyss that is senility.
IMHO he's already sunk. He is the epitome of the scum in the swamp in DC that needs to be drained.
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Aren't they exempt from insider trading laws?
Yes they are. It helps defray the bills and stuff.
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IMHO he's already sunk. He is the epitome of the scum in the swamp in DC that needs to be drained.
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Agree, bigly!
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So definitions such as this are patently wrong?
Allahu Akbar (ˈæləˌhu ˈakˌbaː)
interj
(Islam) Islam an exclamation used in the call to prayer and also used as a call to the defence of Muslims, an expression of approval, and a funeral litany
[from Arabic, literally: God is most great]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ALLAHU+AKBAR
Okay, to say "call to the defence of Muslims" is politically correct language, as not to offend, as not to call to mind Jihad.
But the other points of the definition, "a call to prayer" or "an expression of approval". Are these totally wrong?
McCain took a trip, I think it's a bit unfair to nail McCain so much on a story from a non-mainstream news site and continue to harp on MCain's misunderstanding.
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IMHO he's already sunk. He is the epitome of the scum in the swamp in DC that needs to be drained.
Not as long as Arizona Democrats keep crossing over to vote for him.
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Way back..........McCain was the subject of a recall in Arizona. It was quite successful...........and then 9/11 put an end to the recall. Not the time for politics at that time.
Perhaps Arizona can try again...........
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Well, it is.
Except when Christians shout "Thank God" it is because someone is safe, or healed, or their life has improved.
When Muslims shout "Thank God" it is because their death cult has decapitated another unbeliever, or thrown another homo off a building, or they convinced another 10 year old girl to blow themselves up on a bus.
So he's not wrong - it just actually highlights the problem with Islam as a whole.
Exactly. - context is everything. And in this context, it confirms their religious extremism by stating that "God wills" the murder of innocents.
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Exactly. - context is everything. And in this context, it confirms their religious extremism by stating that "God wills" the murder of innocents.
Technically, that depends on the definition of "innocents".
To a Muslim one who leaves the faith is an apostate, and all others outside the faith are Infidels.
With that in hand, there are no "innocents", you are in or out.
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This is about as stupid as it gets...
Christians do not yell thank god as they are killing others just because they are not christians....
This man is way over the hill and his stupid is hanging out for all to see.
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This is about as stupid as it gets...
Christians do not yell thank god as they are killing others just because they are not christians....
This man is way over the hill and his stupid is hanging out for all to see.
So, this dictionary definition is patently wrong?
Allahu Akbar (ˈæləˌhu ˈakˌbaː)
interj
(Islam) Islam an exclamation used in the call to prayer and also used as a call to the defence of Muslims, an expression of approval, and a funeral litany
[from Arabic, literally: God is most great]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ALLAHU+AKBAR
Okay, to say "call to the defence of Muslims" is politically correct language, as not to offend, as not to call to mind Jihad.
But the other points of the definition, "a call to prayer" or "an expression of approval". Are these totally wrong?
McCain took a trip, I think it's a bit unfair to nail McCain so much on a story from a non-mainstream news site and continue to harp on MCain's misunderstanding if he even said this.
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MCCAIN: SHOUTING ‘ALLAHU AKHBAR!’ SAME AS CHRISTIANS SHOUTING ‘THANK GOD!’
by Ben Shapiro, Breitbart | published on September 4, 2013
Read more at 1776 Coalition: http://www.1776coalition.com/featured-content/mccain-shouting-allahu-akhbar-same-as-christians-shouting-thank-god/#ixzz4UkSP4Dsr
It's fine to post this and it is also fine to remind ourselves, this article is 3 years old or more.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1326127/john-mccain-isis-photo/
As for McCain ever meeting with ISIS, there are certainly those who say it has been debunked.
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Put up or shut up time. Link or slink...
"So, this dictionary definition is patently wrong?"
Show me, from modern times, where Christians are praising god in any fashion as they are killing non Christians just because they are not Christians.
Arguing semantics in this discussion is very juvenile and does not give you a win. It just makes you sound like a middle school kid trying to change the subject and utilize a false argument because it is the only way they can stay in the discussion.
Anyone with college English behind them should be able to spot a false argument a mile away.