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Title: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
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October 7, 2013
America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
By Kevin Jackson

I don't expect America to be perfect, and I know America has made some mistakes.  But boy do we know how to correct them.  And we will self-correct from the mistake of electing Obama.

The anti-American naysayers declare that we are all from somewhere else -- the inherent message being that America was stolen and none of us can lay claim to the land.  They say that we invaded what is now America, attacked the Indians, then took their land and livelihoods.  We forced them to live in squalid camps.  Liberals say that we took their dignity.

I admit that the Indians got a bad deal.  A well-meaning group of immigrants left oppression, then came to America and oppressed.  The interlopers got greedy and the Indians paid for it; many with their lives.  We relocated the Indians from their homes and gave them the badlands.  And if America had remained the America run by Democrat Andrew Jackson, who referred to the people whose land he stole as "savages," today I would be outraged.  But today, the Indians have the opportunity to feast, and some are.

The Pequot Indians of Connecticut run the largest casino in America.  The tribe guarantees every person in their nation a college education, and adults are guaranteed a $60K a year job, I'm told.  That's better than the deal you can get from any Liberal, including the king of redistribution himself.

Speaking of Africans, Liberals say that Americans went to Africa, discovered black people, then enslaved them.  Forced blacks to work on plantations as slaves.  Liberals have certainly taken liberties with a common practice of the time, though an abhorrent one.

Nevertheless, when freedom was demanded, many Americans (Democrats) wanted to continue the practice.  Republicans won, the slaves were freed, and despite Democrats' attempts to keep oppressing blacks, the American Spirit prevailed.

Thus, years later, black people have it pretty good in America.  We don't own casinos; but we aren't doing too badly.   We like it here, and we want to stay.  It's a rare occasion for a black person to leave America, even to vacation.  Blacks know about Africa, but American black people don't seem to want to live there.

Black Liberals adapt all kinds of African customs, hair styles, couture, dance, and so on, but they don't want to go live there, because Africa sucks.  I'm not talking about their people, or the animals, or the natural wonders.  That's all fantastic.  I'm talking about their governments.

I'd rather live in Detroit than live in any country in Africa.  On a continent with 53 countries run by black people, very few "African Americans" are searching for their roots and relocating to the Motherland.

Life in Africa is so bad that almost every African country has a lottery for Africans to get the opportunity to come to America.

Disgruntled blacks in American can go to live in Africa with no obstructions, and they will not go.  Blacks who do visit Africa for the reasons mentioned earlier, visit, then get their butts back to America -- Land of the free, home of the African-American! And home of clean water and constant electrical service.  Oh, and great food, and modern conveniences.  Oh, and freedom!

Despite our problems, America remains the greatest country in the world.  Sure there are shinier newer places, like Dubai.  Big deal.  Dubai will never have the "it" factor that America has, even if they possessed all the money in the world.  Dubai is just the "flavor of the day."

The American Spirit cannot be purchased or duplicated.

America is one of the only countries that self-corrects.  When America decided that slavery was wrong -- which occurred at the founding of our nation -- the Founding Fathers, some slave owners, wrote it out of the Constitution.  The American Spirit prevailed over self-indulgence.

The American Spirit also overcame the poor treatment of women, a lesson the Middle East can learn.

The American Spirit trounced the lack of civil rights for blacks and other minorities, and it beat back discrimination against gays.

Rules that protect humanity were not written for America.  All the war treaties that were enacted to show mercy in times of war were created for other countries, not us.

The treaty of 1839, the 1907 Hague Convention, the 1925 Geneva Protocol and so on were enacted because of the atrocities of other governments.  And for the most part, America has been policing atrocities for decades, not committing them.  America has been and will always be the voice of reason in warfare.

Who drops atomic bombs on people then decides that should never happen again.  Can you imagine Hitler with nukes? Middle Eastern despots?

Under decades of Liberalism, America has fallen into decay.  Obama's administration showcases the effects of unchecked Liberalism better than any other, with things like the big powerful malevolent government, reverse discrimination, rampant poverty, and the list goes on.  However, America will self-correct.  That is what the American Spirit is all about.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 07, 2013, 01:45:16 pm
It will with proper leadership but that has been sorely lacking for quite some time now.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: rustynail on October 07, 2013, 01:47:43 pm
Kevin Jackson needs to seek help. He may be delusional.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Relic on October 07, 2013, 01:58:38 pm
I doubt it. America used to be populated by self reliant, common sense type people. Not anymore.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: 240B on October 07, 2013, 02:10:50 pm
Disgruntled blacks in American can go to live in Africa with no obstructions,

I've been saying this for years. Black Panthers, Farrakhan, Sharpton, et al, nobody is forcing them to live in America.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: andy58-in-nh on October 07, 2013, 02:34:19 pm
It will with proper leadership but that has been sorely lacking for quite some time now.

Leadership will undoubtedly help, but it will take much more than that to reverse the damage done to America.

Progressives have taken over virtually all of our public institutions and diverted them from their original purposes. They have been directed instead toward a long-term goal of establishing in America a centralized, secular, European-style welfare state of purposely diminished world influence and power, while inculcating the culture to accept and support such an outcome.

Reversing this effort will involve not merely courageous leadership (though it will certainly require that) but also a determined effort to reclaim our schools, bureaucracies, cultural and scientific institutions, religious, business, and community organizations, and the news media as well.

Such an effort will meet fierce resistance from the Progressive infrastructure now firmly in place, and will require courage, knowledge, faith and strength of will on the part of those determined to restore America. And if successful, I expect it will take two full generations to manifest itself fully. But if any hope remains, the effort must begin now, before we pass the last exit on the road we are traveling.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 07, 2013, 02:41:32 pm
Leadership will undoubtedly help, but it will take much more than that to reverse the damage done to America.

Progressives have taken over virtually all of our public institutions and diverted them from their original purposes. They have been directed instead toward a long-term goal of establishing in America a centralized, secular, European-style welfare state of purposely diminished world influence and power, while inculcating the culture to accept and support such an outcome.

Reversing this effort will involve not merely courageous leadership (though it will certainly require that) but also a determined effort to reclaim our schools, bureaucracies, cultural and scientific institutions, religious, business, and community organizations, and the news media as well.

Such an effort will meet fierce resistance from the Progressive infrastructure now firmly in place, and will require courage, knowledge, faith and strength of will on the part of those determined to restore America. And if successful, I expect it will take two full generations to manifest itself fully. But if any hope remains, the effort must begin now, before we pass the last exit on the road we are traveling.

I agree completely and all of that did not happen in one presidential term, one generation, or even one human lifetime and the road back will be long and painful as well but still none of those things required to get back can even begin to be accomplished without leadership.

Today there are still a core of self reliant critical thinking Americans around to help show the way but if it goes much longer that won't be the case and correction will be very much more problematic.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: andy58-in-nh on October 07, 2013, 02:46:10 pm
I agree completely but still none of those things can even begin to be accomplished without leadership.

Today there are still a core of self reliant critical thinking Americans around to help but if it goes much longer that won't be the case and correction will be very much more problematic.

Leaders, for better and worse, tend to emerge in times of great crisis. It won't be long, I think.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 07, 2013, 02:47:53 pm
Leaders, for better and worse, tend to emerge in times of great crisis. It won't be long, I think.

Again I agree. It's already starting to happen I think.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: rangerrebew on October 07, 2013, 09:29:09 pm
Leaders, for better and worse, tend to emerge in times of great crisis. It won't be long, I think.

We must remember Hitler rose in a time of great crisis, too. :pondering:
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Olivia on October 07, 2013, 09:38:22 pm
Americans have become complacent to the point of disinterest in what goes on around them.

My SS class has around 22 women that meet every Sunday.  Only one other person in the class knows anything what-so-ever about what's going on in Washington.  They are good women, just uninformed to the point of frustration. 
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: aligncare on October 07, 2013, 09:47:07 pm
Leaders, for better and worse, tend to emerge in times of great crisis. It won't be long, I think.

I just finished eating Chinese take out while reading this topic. When I got to the fortune cookie it read: Adversity is the first path to truth. Hmm...
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 07, 2013, 10:13:21 pm
I just finished eating Chinese take out while reading this topic. When I got to the fortune cookie it read: Adversity is the first path to truth. Hmm...

That is true but we must remember that:

“It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.” —Voltaire
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 07, 2013, 11:00:27 pm
Not to digress overly much but this statement caught my eye:
Quote
The Pequot Indians of Connecticut run the largest casino in America

Well, maybe. If you would like a good read on what became Foxwoods, and how a small group of clever manipulators exploited the law and the concept of tribal identity, give a try to  Revenge of the Pequots: How a Small Native American Tribe Created the World's Most Profitable Casino. It's a good read and well may make you shake your head in dismay over how it was done or set your teeth on edge that it was done.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: mountaineer on October 07, 2013, 11:19:26 pm
Some might say it took the Russians over 70 years to "self-correct" and they may need to do it again.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: evadR on October 07, 2013, 11:28:07 pm
It isn't just that we need to correct the Obama mistake. As disastrous as he is, he couldn't do jack without all his sycophants.
The problem is that all our major institutions have been corrupted so deeply by liberalism that it will be almost impossible to recover.  Keeeerist, even the boy scouts are corrupted.
Think about it...tell me one institution or organization that isn't corrupted...
please.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: mountaineer on October 07, 2013, 11:37:17 pm
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The problem is that all our major institutions have been corrupted so deeply by liberalism that it will be almost impossible to recover.
Agreed. Sometimes it's very difficult to be hopeful.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: aligncare on October 07, 2013, 11:53:07 pm
Maybe all governments eventually fail. Maybe it's part of human nature that greed, pride, envy, sloth, lust become the ruination of even ostensibly successful governments.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 08, 2013, 12:17:36 am
Maybe all governments eventually fail. Maybe it's part of human nature that greed, pride, envy, sloth, lust become the ruination of even ostensibly successful governments.

There is no doubt about that historically!
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: evadR on October 08, 2013, 12:30:43 am
There is no doubt about that historically!
This government HAS failed...the question is "will it fall".

Interesting thing today, I was flipping through Netflix and watched a bit of Escape from Los Angeles.
The Plot: Takes place in 2013 where a despot becomes "president for life".

Sound familiar?
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: evadR on October 08, 2013, 12:31:46 am
This film was done in 1996...how did they know?
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Oceander on October 08, 2013, 03:34:40 am
Maybe all governments eventually fail. Maybe it's part of human nature that greed, pride, envy, sloth, lust become the ruination of even ostensibly successful governments.

To-date they have.  Oswald Spengler probably overhyped his theory a bit, but most cultures/societies certainly do seem to have a "lifespan" with a birth, and a subsequent death.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: aligncare on October 08, 2013, 07:45:39 pm
To-date they have.  Oswald Spengler probably overhyped his theory a bit, but most cultures/societies certainly do seem to have a "lifespan" with a birth, and a subsequent death.

“The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records.They are written, as with a sun beam in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.”
— Alexander Hamilton, 1775

The Founders understood man was imperfect. They knew that our survival as a nation depended on keeping a Godly heritage. That's why faith was so important to the Founders and why God figured so prominently in the Declaration of Independence, with five references to God throughout.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 08, 2013, 08:53:28 pm
The Chinese dynasty lasted for millenia. The British Crown is over 1000 years old, although its territory has changed. Byzantium defended itself successfully for over 1000 years. Sure, many of the great empires like Greece and Rome may have fallen in fairly short order, but many others did not. As dumb as America has become, it is not necessarily even close to our end. We have been around as an independent nation a mere 237 years. Even the Roman Empire lasted over 500.

Alas, the people must change-- reawaken, if you will-- for there to be hope. Can it self-correct from Obama? They had their chance last year and elected more of the same. These idiots will get what they deserve, but a lot of innocent people who tried to warn them will, to the glee of the idiots, also get caught in the crossfire. We do, however, have term limits that are going to be darn near impossible to overturn at this stage.

It will take a reassessment of what is truth. It will need to rebuke the corruption in sciences, education and media that serve as arbiters of fact. It will need to reject identity politics-- the idea that you vote based on your gender, skin color, ethnicity or other factors other than clear judgment of the facts. Most importantly, it will need to unite. A house divided amongst itself cannot stand, Jesus once said. The idea of class warfare, vengeance and envy of one's fellow man must stop.

I can't say for certain that we will self-correct. The peer pressure of the world may be too great at this stage for a republic to stand on its own. Yet the death and decline of the United States is NOT a foregone conclusion at this stage.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: olde north church on October 08, 2013, 09:06:25 pm
People must be willing to do what needs to be done.  You can't be more concerned with your franchise opportunity or "the deck".
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 08, 2013, 09:18:06 pm
The Chinese dynasty lasted for millenia. The British Crown is over 1000 years old, although its territory has changed. Byzantium defended itself successfully for over 1000 years. Sure, many of the great empires like Greece and Rome may have fallen in fairly short order, but many others did not. As dumb as America has become, it is not necessarily even close to our end. We have been around as an independent nation a mere 237 years. Even the Roman Empire lasted over 500.

Alas, the people must change-- reawaken, if you will-- for there to be hope. Can it self-correct from Obama? They had their chance last year and elected more of the same. These idiots will get what they deserve, but a lot of innocent people who tried to warn them will, to the glee of the idiots, also get caught in the crossfire. We do, however, have term limits that are going to be darn near impossible to overturn at this stage.

It will take a reassessment of what is truth. It will need to rebuke the corruption in sciences, education and media that serve as arbiters of fact. It will need to reject identity politics-- the idea that you vote based on your gender, skin color, ethnicity or other factors other than clear judgment of the facts. Most importantly, it will need to unite. A house divided amongst itself cannot stand, Jesus once said. The idea of class warfare, vengeance and envy of one's fellow man must stop.

I can't say for certain that we will self-correct. The peer pressure of the world may be too great at this stage for a republic to stand on its own. Yet the death and decline of the United States is NOT a foregone conclusion at this stage.

Not yet! But if the process has not begun within another generation it's over I think.


Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2013, 09:25:07 pm
Always wondered if senior citizens during Wilson's Administration...or even FDR's long regine...if they too thought our Republic had been lost.

Whatever comes out of this.....the country will be unrecognizable.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: aligncare on October 08, 2013, 09:42:44 pm
We may not be close to our end, but we are far from the nation my parents and I came to in 1956.

Fifty-seven years from now what will the nation be like? Will the constitution be a half remembered relic in an obscure crypt, and original intent be merely an artifact of American history? Or will "we the people" have taken back our government to live the great truth contained in the Declaration of Independence that Abraham Lincoln reminded the nation of when he said, "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: musiclady on October 08, 2013, 09:55:24 pm
Pardon my ignorance if this is a dumb question, but is Kevin Jackson "trueblackman" from FR?
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 08, 2013, 09:58:02 pm
We may not be close to our end, but we are far from the nation my parents and I came to in 1956.

Fifty-seven years from now what will the nation be like? Will the constitution be a half remembered relic in an obscure crypt, and original intent be merely an artifact of American history? Or will "we the people" have taken back our government to live the great truth contained in the Declaration of Independence and that Abraham Lincoln reminded the nation of when he said, "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

As I have said previously on this forum, the undermining of the Republic has been going on for a LONG time now (from the beginning really). It started in earnest when many leaders of the failed socialist revolutions revolutions that occurred in Europe in 1848 (the 48ers) arrived on our shore and became politically active. By 1865 the Republic we had been given had been converted to the mercantile empire we now enjoy. Everything has gone generally downhill since. 
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 08, 2013, 09:59:25 pm
Pardon my ignorance if this is a dumb question, but is Kevin Jackson "trueblackman" from FR?

I'm not certain of it but I thinks so.
 
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: musiclady on October 08, 2013, 10:15:32 pm
I'm not certain of it but I thinks so.

I know his name is Kevin, and this seems like something he might write, so I wondered.

I'm not as optimistic about America as he is.

I think we may have turned a corner from which we cannot return.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2013, 11:02:48 pm
I know his name is Kevin, and this seems like something he might write, so I wondered.

I'm not as optimistic about America as he is.

I think we may have turned a corner from which we cannot return.

Not until the Department of Education is dissolved....not until we get control of the curriculum our future generations are being taught will we have "turned the corner".
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: musiclady on October 08, 2013, 11:25:53 pm
Not until the Department of Education is dissolved....not until we get control of the curriculum our future generations are being taught will we have "turned the corner".

I was saying that the corner we have turned is the turn in the wrong direction.

I'm not sure we can return from the mess that Obama has cemented during his 5 years, and what's coming.

I'm not optimistic, even with dissolving the DoE, because we have generations of leftist teachers and indoctrinated students.

It will take decades to recover, even under the best case scenario, IMO.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: DCPatriot on October 08, 2013, 11:28:17 pm
I was saying that the corner we have turned is the turn in the wrong direction.

I'm not sure we can return from the mess that Obama has cemented during his 5 years, and what's coming.

I'm not optimistic, even with dissolving the DoE, because we have generations of leftist teachers and indoctrinated students.

It will take decades to recover, even under the best case scenario, IMO.

Under my scenario, unless every teacher passed an evaluation test, they'd be gone our of the classrooms and then they'd have to get a job putting stickers on fruit.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: musiclady on October 08, 2013, 11:45:45 pm
Under my scenario, unless every teacher passed an evaluation test, they'd be gone our of the classrooms and then they'd have to get a job putting stickers on fruit.

It would only work if part of the evaluation test made sure they weren't a brainwashed leftist.

I think that would keep about 2% of the current teaching force away from produce.......
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: R4 TrumPence on October 09, 2013, 03:36:43 am
I'm not certain of it but I thinks so.

Not the same Kevin.  I can't think of Trueblackman's last name though, senior moment...LOL  My husband and I hung out with Kevin several times at events on the east coast over the years.
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: R4 TrumPence on October 09, 2013, 04:20:28 am
Here is FR's Kevin:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/bios/P21Speakers_MartinK.html
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Bigun on October 09, 2013, 01:13:59 pm
Here is FR's Kevin:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/bios/P21Speakers_MartinK.html

OK! Thanks!

I couldn't, for the life of me, pull out the last name either!
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: musiclady on October 09, 2013, 01:49:19 pm
Here is FR's Kevin:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/bios/P21Speakers_MartinK.html

Thanks from me, too!

(Too many seniors all in the same room!  :patriot: )
Title: Re: America Will Self-Correct from the Mistake of Obama
Post by: Fishrrman on October 10, 2013, 03:06:03 am
[[ It will need to reject identity politics-- the idea that you vote based on your gender, skin color, ethnicity or other factors other than clear judgment of the facts. ]]

Your notion here is noble, indeed.

But it bears no relationship at all - NONE - to the reality of the human condition.

When, in human history, have peoples of different skin color, ethnicity and "other factors" lived and voted together in harmony?

Do you really expect this can or will happen because we _want_ it to happen?

On the contrary, when peoples of different skin color, ethnicity and "other factors" end up in one place, they either fight (often brutally) or must be forced to submit to authoritarian control to live together without fighting (witness Tito's Yugoslavia -- how long did that last once communism was overthrown?).

Fishrrman's credo of conservatism:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

Identity politics is a result. It is not a causal factor.

Again -- do you really expect what you promulgated above to happen, simply because we want it to happen?