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Title: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on May 14, 2020, 07:27:00 pm
Reference Rasmussen Poll...

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump)

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Republicans overwhelmingly expect President Trump to be their nominee this fall, but nearly one-in-four GOP voters would prefer someone else.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 23% of Likely Republican Voters think their party should find someone other than Trump to be their presidential nominee. Seventy percent (70%) disagree. Only seven percent (7%) are undecided.

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Hey  Trump fans... don't shoot the messenger.  We can argue the merits of polling or Trump's supposed 90+% GOP approval all we want.
But the honest truth here, is there are many of us, who though will vote for  Trump, sure as hell wish someone else was running.

Fire away.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: libertybele on May 14, 2020, 07:49:09 pm
Reference Rasmussen Poll...

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump)

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Republicans overwhelmingly expect President Trump to be their nominee this fall, but nearly one-in-four GOP voters would prefer someone else.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 23% of Likely Republican Voters think their party should find someone other than Trump to be their presidential nominee. Seventy percent (70%) disagree. Only seven percent (7%) are undecided.

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Hey  Trump fans... don't shoot the messenger.  We can argue the merits of polling or Trump's supposed 90+% GOP approval all we want.
But the honest truth here, is there are many of us, who though will vote for  Trump, sure as hell wish someone else was running.

Fire away.

Ok, I won't argue the fact that polls have proven to be unreliable, but who does the GOP have that would be wiling to step up to the plate and is capable of doing a better job than Trump?  Name one person.  I can't think of anyone.

The continual bombardment of harassment, false accusations, drummed up collusion, etc., from the left, makes it nearly impossible for someone fully capable and competent to come forward.  Any conservative coming forward with the intent of promoting conservatism and moving this country forward in a positive direction, will be destroyed by the left, because no one on the left has been held responsible or accountable since Obama became president.

Challenging Trump would be futile and would accomplish nothing more than to hand the seat in the oval office over to Biden.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on May 15, 2020, 12:28:03 am
bele wonders:
"who does the GOP have that would be wiling to step up to the plate and is capable of doing a better job than Trump?  Name one person.  I can't think of anyone."

Which is why I'll post again something I've posted before:
"After Trump...   the deluge"
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: libertybele on May 15, 2020, 12:38:41 am
bele wonders:
"who does the GOP have that would be wiling to step up to the plate and is capable of doing a better job than Trump?  Name one person.  I can't think of anyone."

Which is why I'll post again something I've posted before:
"After Trump...   the deluge"

I find it interesting that there hasn't been more response to this.   

As for the 'deluge' ... well .... things aren't exactly looking up are they?
Title: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 15, 2020, 04:32:48 am
23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump

Thursday, May 14, 2020
Republicans overwhelmingly expect President Trump to be their nominee this fall, but nearly one-in-four GOP voters would prefer someone else.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 23% of Likely Republican Voters think their party should find someone other than Trump to be their presidential nominee. Seventy percent (70%) disagree. Only seven percent (7%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.) 

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump (https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/23_of_republicans_think_gop_should_nominate_someone_other_than_trump)
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 15, 2020, 10:38:27 am
Pretty solid minority there. And the time for that was in the primary season.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 10:46:16 am
Ok, I won't argue the fact that polls have proven to be unreliable, but who does the GOP have that would be wiling to step up to the plate and is capable of doing a better job than Trump?  Name one person.  I can't think of anyone.


Nikki Haley.  Marco Rubio.  Just to name two who are widely assumed to have the ambition.   They are certainly capable of doing a better job -  even if a "better job" is defined merely as being an advocate for the Republic and the opportunity economy without alienating half the voters before the first vote is cast.

And there's that Congressman (darn if I can remember his name as I type this) who so effectively stood up to Schiff and his Star Chamber. Or Ron DeSantis in Florida or Brian Kemp in Georgia.  Or my own particular favorite (besides Nikki), Sen Pat Toomey.  It is a failure of the imagination to contend that "after Trump, the deluge".   There is talent up and down the national and state GOPs.

The better contention is that after Trump's inevitable defeat, the deluge.    Trump has crippled himself with half the electorate,  and his way to re-election is as dicey as a Vegas crap game.  Trump's legacy may well be the triumphant, radicalized Democratic party he has energized in his wake.

Count me as one of the 23 percent.   When a car is hurtling straight into a ditch,  I say TURN THE WHEEL   

 
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 15, 2020, 10:51:28 am
Nikki Haley.  Mario Rubio.
 

Meh. Those two names don't really light me on fire. And Marco (I think you meant?) already had one shot. Nikki isn't really that exciting.

Trump was the best performing GOP nominee, at least in terms of breaking the blue wall, in like 20 years or so. He flipped Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 10:57:12 am
Meh. Those two names don't really light me on fire. And Marco (I think you meant?) already had one shot. Nikki isn't really that exciting.

Trump was the best performing GOP nominee, at least in terms of breaking the blue wall, in like 20 years or so. He flipped Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.

Well,  of course,  if you're a member of the 77%.  I'm one of the 23%,  because I see the car heading for the ditch.   
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: 240B on May 15, 2020, 11:13:51 am
1 in 5 Republicans don't like Trump.
That's pretty much the stat for NeverTrumps from the beginning.
Most of these guys did not vote last time and likely will not vote in Nov.
Or, they will vote for some no name offshoot candidate with no chance of a win.
Which is, basically, the same as not voting.
These guys are a write-off. They are known overhead already factored in.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 15, 2020, 11:23:39 am
Well,  of course,  if you're a member of the 77%.  I'm one of the 23%,  because I see the car heading for the ditch.

 :shrug:

When wasn't the car headed for the ditch? The population and culture have changed. It's not the 1980's anymore. IMO Nikki or Rubio would've lost outright to Hillary, and if they couldn't even win the primary, what does that tell you about their chances in the general?
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 11:27:06 am
1 in 5 Republicans don't like Trump.
That's pretty much the stat for NeverTrumps from the beginning.
Most of these guys did not vote last time and likely will not vote in Nov.
Or, they will vote for some no name offshoot candidate with no chance of a win.
Which is, basically, the same as not voting.
These guys are a write-off. They are known overhead already factored in.

If that's how you feel, then I'll speak up all the louder.   Time isn't tall.   
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Applewood on May 15, 2020, 11:42:43 am
A lot of us wish the nominee were someone else.  But it's not going to happen. 
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: verga on May 15, 2020, 12:36:49 pm
A lot of us wish the nominee were someone else.  But it's not going to happen.
But a lot more of us are thrilled to have someone in office that is willing to stand toe to toe with the swamp dwellers.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: aligncare on May 15, 2020, 12:40:32 pm
But a lot more of us are thrilled to have someone in office that is willing to stand toe to toe with the swamp dwellers.

 :thumbsup:

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. God bless Donald Trump.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 15, 2020, 02:17:16 pm
Not too worrisome because 50% attending Trump rallies were Democrats.  Another part were people who had never voted.  One part Q, who waits for secrets codes and signals from Trump.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: skeeter on May 15, 2020, 02:19:08 pm
Trump's doing much better than he did in 2016, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 15, 2020, 02:22:11 pm
Trump's doing much better than he did in 2016, wouldn't you say?

How would that be?  He has done a few lip service things.  No real substance.  The things that he has done I agreed with I gave him credit for.  Few.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: skeeter on May 15, 2020, 02:25:15 pm
How would that be?  He has done a few lip service things.  No real substance.  The things that he has done I agreed with I gave him credit for.  Few.

I didn't ask what you thought, I'm clear on that score.

I'm referring to the subject of your article - I wager significantly more than 23% of republicans wanted a different nominee prior to Nov 2016.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 15, 2020, 02:28:51 pm
I didn't ask what you thought, I'm clear on that score.

I'm referring to the subject of your article - I wager significantly more than 23% of republicans wanted a different nominee prior to Nov 2016.

Oh, I thought you were asking me.  Could be.  I don't know.  But in 2016 nobody had seen him in action.  So you can't compare.  They weren't voting for him for different reasons, and the same back then.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Longiron on May 15, 2020, 02:47:45 pm
But a lot more of us are thrilled to have someone in office that is willing to stand toe to toe with the swamp dwellers.

Should not surprise anyone the Republicans don't want TRUMP. He has exposed to many as the ENEMY and will continue to do so in his next TERM. Republicans are not TRUMP's base of support. Some are but Independents and old not socialists DEMS make up his base. After TRUMP unless it is Don Jr the PUBBIES will put forth a RINO candidate and it will not matter who wins things will go back to Globalists and China. America will be way down on the list and that is already being planned. we will be in lock down to destroy the economy again so we have to become dependent on the GOVT. Both parties want that so they can rule. GOOD news the R party will be destroyed and the American Patriot Party will emerge as the opposition party. This will happen out of necessity and many MILLIONS of Americans being hurt in the process. :crying:
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 03:14:08 pm
RINO's. People who WANT to vote Dim based on their emotional need to be loved and considered to be a "savior",but hampered by their greed and desire to not pay taxes.

The only surprise here is there aren't more of them.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: aligncare on May 15, 2020, 03:15:12 pm
Should not surprise anyone the Republicans don't want TRUMP. He has exposed to many as the ENEMY and will continue to do so in his next TERM. Republicans are not TRUMP's base of support. Some are but Independents and old not socialists DEMS make up his base. After TRUMP unless it is Don Jr the PUBBIES will put forth a RINO candidate and it will not matter who wins things will go back to Globalists and China. America will be way down on the list and that is already being planned. we will be in lock down to destroy the economy again so we have to become dependent on the GOVT. Both parties want that so they can rule. GOOD news the R party will be destroyed and the American Patriot Party will emerge as the opposition party. This will happen out of necessity and many MILLIONS of Americans being hurt in the process. :crying:

Interesting times. You may be right that a realignment in American politics is coming. Modesty prevents me from naming Trump as the trigger...but he was. It was the left’s panicked overreaction to Trump’s election that tipped the democrats hand and forced the issue about party identity/ideology within the ranks of republican and democrat voters. Independents have clearly had it with both parties.

Trump hates politics, but as a businessman and pragmatist he knows he must operate under corrupt political rules; but really, he doesn’t care about the political labels, he just wants to get the job done under budget and on time and with the least amount of disruption to the customers (middle Americans).

Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 03:16:13 pm
A lot of us wish the nominee were someone else.  But it's not going to happen.

@Applewood

You  are speaking for yourself,of course.

I am not one of those people. The only one *I* would like to see as the US president in place of Trump is ME,and I am not so sure you would like that.

Let's just say "there would be some changes made."
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 03:22:40 pm
But a lot more of us are thrilled to have someone in office that is willing to stand toe to toe with the swamp dwellers.
@verga

Yup,and one of them is me.

True story. I have been repeating over and over here this whole virus panic is part of a desperate plan by the Dims to bankrupt the economy to the point as many people as possible are out of work and dependent on government checks coming in each month.

Frankly,bankrupting America while Trump is President is the ONLY way they will be able to establish a globalist "Soviet" government in our lifetimes,and they are getting desperate.

I have lately taken to saying out out loud,sometimes maybe a little louder than absolutely necessary,any time I am in public and someone is complaining about the problems caused by the virus.

I start out with "this whole thing was caused by the DNC and their Chinese friends in an effort to steal the upcoming election.",and then work my way up from there.

Been doing this for more than a week now,and I have YET to say it and get any reaction other than a head nod and some version of "I agree".

And these are all people whose politics I know nothing about,and almost all are over 40 and in the prime voting age.

Even I am surprised I got no blowback,and all agreements. I have never before in my entire life made a political statement like that in public and had NOBODY disagree with me.

I would like for those of you who agree with me on this to start doing this yourselves in public places,and then post your feedback here for the rest of us to see.

Rallying support in politics is best done by letting potential voters know you agree with them by stating specific things like this in public in order for the "non-political" people who only vote every 4 years to hear it,and have something to think about.

We need to turn this back on the Dims.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 03:29:36 pm
Should not surprise anyone the Republicans don't want TRUMP. He has exposed to many as the ENEMY and will continue to do so in his next TERM. Republicans are not TRUMP's base of support. Some are but Independents and old not socialists DEMS make up his base. After TRUMP unless it is Don Jr the PUBBIES will put forth a RINO candidate and it will not matter who wins things will go back to Globalists and China. America will be way down on the list and that is already being planned. we will be in lock down to destroy the economy again so we have to become dependent on the GOVT. Both parties want that so they can rule. GOOD news the R party will be destroyed and the American Patriot Party will emerge as the opposition party. This will happen out of necessity and many MILLIONS of Americans being hurt in the process. :crying:

@Longiron

*I* prefer to think the next Republican nominee will be someone not a part of the RINO Borg who is supported by Trump to the point where he campaigns for that nominee.

By then,there should be enough voters in this country with their eyes open to the point where the election of another Globalist is out of the question.

We have been saved by nothing less than a miracle by accident,so why can't our future be saved by careful planning?
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 15, 2020, 03:37:27 pm
 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: aligncare on May 15, 2020, 03:41:52 pm
@verga

Yup,and one of them is me.

True story. I have been repeating over and over here this whole virus panic is part of a desperate plan by the Dims to bankrupt the economy to the point as many people as possible are out of work and dependent on government checks coming in each month.

Frankly,bankrupting America while Trump is President is the ONLY way they will be able to establish a globalist "Soviet" government in our lifetimes,and they are getting desperate.

I have lately taken to saying out out loud,sometimes maybe a little louder than absolutely necessary,any time I am in public and someone is complaining about the problems caused by the virus.

I start out with "this whole thing was caused by the DNC and their Chinese friends in an effort to steal the upcoming election.",and then work my way up from there.

Been doing this for more than a week now,and I have YET to say it and get any reaction other than a head nod and some version of "I agree".

And these are all people whose politics I know nothing about,and almost all are over 40 and in the prime voting age.

Even I am surprised I got no blowback,and all agreements. I have never before in my entire life made a political statement like that in public and had NOBODY disagree with me.

I would like for those of you who agree with me on this to start doing this yourselves in public places,and then post your feedback here for the rest of us to see.

Rallying support in politics is best done by letting potential voters know you agree with them by stating specific things like this in public in order for the "non-political" people who only vote every 4 years to hear it,and have something to think about.

We need to turn this back on the Dims.

The Chinese government just now threatened the Republican Party, warning that they’re thinking about interfering in the November election if republicans don’t cool the anti China rhetoric.

So, a hostile country openly targets an American election and the news media is mute! But, mention Russia and the press breaks into a chorus of Trump’s a Russian agent.

DNC = CCP
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 15, 2020, 03:56:10 pm
The Chinese government just now threatened the Republican Party, warning that they’re thinking about interfering in the November election if republicans don’t cool the anti China rhetoric.

So, a hostile country openly targets an American election and the news media is mute! But, mention Russia and the press breaks into a chorus of Trump’s a Russian agent.

DNC = CCP

The Rats must maintain the "Trump is a Russian asset!" fiction, because the moment they concede he's not, the entire house of cards that was a supposed counter-espionage investigation collapses.  They've been saying they would not give Trump any notice of the "investigation" by the FBI because it would tip off Trump, the Russian asset.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: catfish1957 on May 15, 2020, 03:59:04 pm
Trump's doing much better than he did in 2016, wouldn't you say?

Ask me after how much of this $3T boondoggle gets passed.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 15, 2020, 04:14:16 pm
Ask me after how much of this $3T boondoggle gets passed.

This $3T boondoggle will be passed by a House vote, and that's it. 
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Applewood on May 15, 2020, 04:38:07 pm
@sneakypete
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You  are speaking for yourself, of course.

Well, if you believe this poll (which I don't), I'm not the only one.  Or you can simply ask a few other members here. 

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I am not one of those people. The only one *I* would like to see as the US president in place of Trump is ME, and I am not so sure you would like that.

Let's just say "there would be some changes made."

You old goat.  You wouldn't last 5 minutes as president -- well, unless you were like Trump and Obama, spending all your time goofing off.  Real presidents actually WORK at the job. 

Changes?  Nah.  Sadly the *bleep* that goes on in DC has been going on for a long time.  it is permanently entrenched; it will never change.

However, I am curious what changes you would like to make.  Locking up us Never Trumpers -- the enemies of the state?  LOL  Good luck with that.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: skeeter on May 15, 2020, 04:44:57 pm
Ask me after how much of this $3T boondoggle gets passed.

Most republicans are shrewd enough to figure out the forces at play here and their motives.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 15, 2020, 04:49:55 pm
You wouldn't last 5 minutes as president -- well, unless you were like Trump and Obama, spending all your time goofing off.  Real presidents actually WORK at the job. 

What the hell are you talking about @Applewood   Are you unaware that the President has literally been locked in the WH WORKING around the clock for months?   Do you live under a rock??

You can have your snark, you can have your kneejerks, you can have your fantastical thinking ..... but you cannot have your own facts.

Buy a damn vowel.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: txradioguy on May 15, 2020, 04:57:35 pm
Nikki Haley.  Marco Rubio.  Just to name two who are widely assumed to have the ambition.   They are certainly capable of doing a better job -  even if a "better job" is defined merely as being an advocate for the Republic and the opportunity economy without alienating half the voters before the first vote is cast.

And there's that Congressman (darn if I can remember his name as I type this) who so effectively stood up to Schiff and his Star Chamber. Or Ron DeSantis in Florida or Brian Kemp in Georgia.  Or my own particular favorite (besides Nikki), Sen Pat Toomey.  It is a failure of the imagination to contend that "after Trump, the deluge".   There is talent up and down the national and state GOPs.

The better contention is that after Trump's inevitable defeat, the deluge.    Trump has crippled himself with half the electorate,  and his way to re-election is as dicey as a Vegas crap game.  Trump's legacy may well be the triumphant, radicalized Democratic party he has energized in his wake.

Count me as one of the 23 percent.   When a car is hurtling straight into a ditch,  I say TURN THE WHEEL   

 

Two Moderate/RINO Republicans.  Go figure. You want Dem Lite.

Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: txradioguy on May 15, 2020, 05:00:00 pm
This $3T boondoggle will be passed by a House vote, and that's it.

It will get past the senate too...after Turtle and his band of merry moderates water down the most odious parts to a more "manageable" $$$ amount.  Then they'll pass it and Trump will happily sign it.

It's what's happened with the first two bills.  Why should anyone expect things to change on this bill?
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 05:00:57 pm
Ok, I won't argue the fact that polls have proven to be unreliable, but who does the GOP have that would be wiling to step up to the plate and is capable of doing a better job than Trump?  Name one person.  I can't think of anyone.

@libertybele

Jebby needs a job,and he would reunite all the RINO voters.



 
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 05:02:48 pm
Well,  of course,  if you're a member of the 77%.  I'm one of the 23%,  because I see the car heading for the ditch.

@Jazzhead

Maybe you need new glasses?
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: aligncare on May 15, 2020, 05:04:09 pm
What the hell are you talking about @Applewood   Are you unaware that the President has literally been locked in the WH WORKING around the clock for months?   Do you live under a rock??

You can have your snark, you can have your kneejerks, you can have your fantastical thinking ..... but you cannot have your own facts.

Buy a damn vowel.

Trump is possibly the hardest working president ever. You’re right people on our side should refrain from muddying the waters with their emotional effluvium.

We’ve got a seminal election to win against a corrupt democrat/media party, for heaven’s sake. We are just mere inches away from losing the America we all remember and love, and here some people still want to crow about being right about orange man.

Addendum. ...and to lump Trump in the same sentence as Obama shows a clear lack of political acumen and possibly intellectual honesty.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 05:07:21 pm
The Chinese government just now threatened the Republican Party, warning that they’re thinking about interfering in the November election if republicans don’t cool the anti China rhetoric.

So, a hostile country openly targets an American election and the news media is mute! But, mention Russia and the press breaks into a chorus of Trump’s a Russian agent.

DNC = CCP

@aligncare

Maybe they are afraid that Pelosi's husband,in his role as the attorney for the Chinese Government in the US will sue them?

BTW,there MAY be just a WEE bit of a hint of conflict of interest in that relationship.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: txradioguy on May 15, 2020, 05:08:30 pm
@Jazzhead

Maybe you need new glasses?

Remember too that Jazzy isn't Republican of any flavor.  So of course he's going to support anyone or anything that will make the GOP worse and not better.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 05:29:42 pm
Remember too that Jazzy isn't Republican of any flavor.  So of course he's going to support anyone or anything that will make the GOP worse and not better.

You're so full of crap.   
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: txradioguy on May 15, 2020, 05:31:57 pm
You're so full of crap.

You have a track record here of posts statements and political positions that that disprove your quoted words above.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 05:40:55 pm
Remember too that Jazzy isn't Republican of any flavor.

@txradioguy @Jazzhead

I disagree. He is a Republican of the 80's version. He thinks FDR was too far to the right.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Applewood on May 15, 2020, 05:41:33 pm
What the hell are you talking about @Applewood   Are you unaware that the President has literally been locked in the WH WORKING around the clock for months?   Do you live under a rock??

...

Well, if you classify sending hundreds of tweets, arguing with reporters, or conducting televised campaign speeches disguised as coronavirus briefings  as "work," well...um...ok. 
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 15, 2020, 06:09:07 pm
Well, if you classify sending hundreds of tweets, arguing with reporters, or conducting televised campaign speeches disguised as coronavirus briefings  as "work," well...um...ok.

It's a labor of love.  Not really like "work."  :shrug:
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: sneakypete on May 15, 2020, 06:10:04 pm
It's a labor of love.  Not really like "work."  :shrug:

@Cyber Liberty

Exactly! Even Presidents need to have a little fun.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Fishrrman on May 15, 2020, 08:17:19 pm
Longiron wrote:
"After TRUMP unless it is Don Jr the PUBBIES will put forth a RINO candidate and it will not matter who wins things will go back to Globalists and China. America will be way down on the list and that is already being planned. we will be in lock down to destroy the economy again so we have to become dependent on the GOVT. Both parties want that so they can rule. GOOD news the R party will be destroyed and the American Patriot Party will emerge as the opposition party. This will happen out of necessity and many MILLIONS of Americans being hurt in the process."

And once again I'll repeat my prediction (which I first put up here months ago):
"After Trump... the deluge."

It's amazin' the number of folks here who can't see this comin'...
(or those who do see it, but then just "turn away"...)
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: libertybele on May 15, 2020, 08:21:17 pm
The Chinese government just now threatened the Republican Party, warning that they’re thinking about interfering in the November election if republicans don’t cool the anti China rhetoric.

So, a hostile country openly targets an American election and the news media is mute! But, mention Russia and the press breaks into a chorus of Trump’s a Russian agent.

DNC = CCP

 888high58888
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 15, 2020, 08:24:11 pm
Well, if you classify sending hundreds of tweets, arguing with reporters, or conducting televised campaign speeches disguised as coronavirus briefings  as "work," well...um...ok.

Well...um...ok @Applewood   But INHO you would have been better off admitting you live under a rock.   :shrug:



Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: libertybele on May 15, 2020, 08:26:09 pm
Well...um...ok @Applewood   But INHO you would have been better off admitting you live under a rock.   :shrug:

Maybe the daily briefings were missed.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Applewood on May 15, 2020, 08:47:07 pm
Well...um...ok @Applewood   But INHO you would have been better off admitting you live under a rock.   :shrug:

@Right_in_Virginia

Why would I do that?  I live in a house.   happy77
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Hoodat on May 15, 2020, 08:59:55 pm
In 2008, over 50% of Democrats thought the Democrat Party should nominate someone other than Baraq Obama.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: aligncare on May 15, 2020, 09:25:14 pm
In 2008, over 50% of Democrats thought the Democrat Party should nominate someone other than Baraq Obama.

Hmm, interesting fact.

That would seem to put Trump in far better position within his party than Obama had within his. That’s not saying much though. Democrats would vote for a can of tomato soup if they reckoned it could beat Trump. Republicans are bit more discerning than that. The candidate would have to have a pulse.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 09:33:34 pm
Hmm, interesting fact.

That would seem to put Trump in far better position within his party than Obama had within his. That’s not saying much though. Democrats would vote for a can of tomato soup if they reckoned it could beat Trump. Republicans are bit more discerning than that. The candidate would have to have a pulse.

Oh, I agree.  Trump is going to face the voters with a very united GOP.   This election isn't just about Trump.  It's an existential one, for reasons I'm sure you and I would agree on.   Where we differ is that I do not believe this election is going to end well.   
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: libertybele on May 15, 2020, 09:54:06 pm
Oh, I agree.  Trump is going to face the voters with a very united GOP.   This election isn't just about Trump.  It's an existential one, for reasons I'm sure you and I would agree on.   Where we differ is that I do not believe this election is going to end well.

@Jazzhead  things looked much more optimistic for Trump prior to the pandemic.  The left has showed their hand and its not pretty -- IMHO IF they succeed in mail-in-voting nationwide, the GOP will loose by fraud and corruption.  Bet on they already have their plans in place.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 15, 2020, 11:18:19 pm
@Right_in_Virginia

Why would I do that?  I live in a house.   happy77

Because @Applewood I asked if you lived under a rock as the only plausible reason you could (still) be so uninformed.  Or don't you remember?   :beer:
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Jazzhead on May 15, 2020, 11:31:03 pm
@Jazzhead  things looked much more optimistic for Trump prior to the pandemic.  The left has showed their hand and its not pretty -- IMHO IF they succeed in mail-in-voting nationwide, the GOP will loose by fraud and corruption.  Bet on they already have their plans in place.

Trump needs to turn lemons into lemonade.  The economy is a smoking wreck but by November the situation between those states that have reopened - safely - and those still wallowing in politically-manufactured panic will be clear.   And there will be a correlation that will be hard to ignore - things will be worse in the states governed by Democrats.   
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Absalom on May 16, 2020, 01:34:55 am
Nikki Haley.  Marco Rubio.  Just to name two who are widely assumed to have the ambition.   They are certainly capable of doing a better job -  even if a "better job" is defined merely as being an advocate for the Republic and the opportunity economy without alienating half the voters before the first vote is cast.
And there's that Congressman (darn if I can remember his name as I type this) who so effectively stood up to Schiff and his Star Chamber. Or Ron DeSantis in Florida or Brian Kemp in Georgia.  Or my own particular favorite (besides Nikki), Sen Pat Toomey.  It is a failure of the imagination to contend that "after Trump, the deluge".   There is talent up and down the national and state GOPs.
The better contention is that after Trump's inevitable defeat, the deluge. Trump has crippled himself with half the electorate,  and his way to re-election is as dicey as a Vegas crap game.  Trump's legacy may well be the triumphant, radicalized Democratic party he has energized in his wake   
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The 23% figure is unsurprising as Trump's ability to make enemies is miraculous.
There was an opportunity for the GOP to force Trump out during the impeachment
fandango, yet the leaders never seized that moment.
Now add COVID to the political turmoil and Trump's will need infinitely more than
his Fan Club in November.
Title: Re: 23% of Republicans Think GOP Should Nominate Someone Other Than Trump
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 16, 2020, 06:08:55 am
@verga

Yup,and one of them is me.

True story. I have been repeating over and over here this whole virus panic is part of a desperate plan by the Dims to bankrupt the economy to the point as many people as possible are out of work and dependent on government checks coming in each month.

Frankly,bankrupting America while Trump is President is the ONLY way they will be able to establish a globalist "Soviet" government in our lifetimes,and they are getting desperate.

I have lately taken to saying out out loud,sometimes maybe a little louder than absolutely necessary,any time I am in public and someone is complaining about the problems caused by the virus.

I start out with "this whole thing was caused by the DNC and their Chinese friends in an effort to steal the upcoming election.",and then work my way up from there.

Been doing this for more than a week now,and I have YET to say it and get any reaction other than a head nod and some version of "I agree".

And these are all people whose politics I know nothing about,and almost all are over 40 and in the prime voting age.

Even I am surprised I got no blowback,and all agreements. I have never before in my entire life made a political statement like that in public and had NOBODY disagree with me.

I would like for those of you who agree with me on this to start doing this yourselves in public places,and then post your feedback here for the rest of us to see.

Rallying support in politics is best done by letting potential voters know you agree with them by stating specific things like this in public in order for the "non-political" people who only vote every 4 years to hear it,and have something to think about.

We need to turn this back on the Dims.
I have been doing the same thing, with little or no argument, even from people I deeply suspect are Democrats.