History is not very kind to multicultural chaos — as opposed to a multiracial society united by a single national culture. ...Either the United States will return to a shared single language and allegiance to a common and singular culture, or it will eventually descend into clannish violence.
If we would have a serious and sustained interest rate spike, we'd have trouble just paying the interest on our debt on what we have today, not to mention if we tack on another $10T in 10 years like the CBO projects. Or another recession like the last where our tax revenues fell 20%.
Since 75% of our budget is military and social programs, but cuts would mean cities burning and no money to defend it. At that point it's going to be very hard to hold together and not have states going their separate ways.
Apparently few are willing to see that inevitability.
It's already cooked into our fate, and everyone is stuck inside a fatal case of Normalcy Bias.
Meh. I really think this is a case of two groups hiding in their own echo chambers. When you reside in a 24/7 cacophony of rage (like right wing media) and encounter nutjobs (like those found in spades on tos and even this website) it's easy to think the world is coming to an end. The loudest idiots on both sides tend to scream the shrilled and it's easy to think that is the norm. Normies have no appetite for splitting up and certainly none for an actual civil war.
Meh. I really think this is a case of two groups hiding in their own echo chambers. When you reside in a 24/7 cacophony of rage (like right wing media) and encounter nutjobs (like those found in spades on tos and even this website) it's easy to think the world is coming to an end. The loudest idiots on both sides tend to scream the shrilled and it's easy to think that is the norm. Normies have no appetite for splitting up and certainly none for an actual civil war.
What are we supposed to stand on as a people?
Apparently few are willing to see that inevitability.
It's already cooked into our fate, and everyone is stuck inside a fatal case of Normalcy Bias.
You simply have to accept that there are people out there who disagree with you. :shrug: And accept that pulling a lever every few years is about the best you're gonna do to have your voice heard (as you are 1 in about 350 million people).
IMO a lot of people use politics as a vector for their own mental illness. They are isolated, depressed, and they like to believe magic men shysters (either AM radio or internet hacks for the right, or in the left, media figures and college professors) who have simple answers to every aspect in life.
They need to be stomped into the ground, not lived with in civility.
Then go stomp them into the ground. Another internet kook and keyboard warrior making an idle threat.
Turn off your computer, big boy, and get stomping. Go stomp some filthy leftists.
That's rich from the guy who sees the Trumpian alt-right bogeyman under every rock and behind every corner, and literally stamps his internet foot in scathing unhinged tirades. You go live in that civil moderate bipartisan echo chamber Mitch McConnell.
In fact I did stomp liberals doing nearly 20 years of politics. We control the Governor and Legislature of Iowa, and we just spend the last legislative session stomping the liberals into the ground. I stomp them on facebook, stomp them in debate in public, and never back down an inch anywhere.
And I'm not the only one. You think the Left is going to stop the aggression? They aren't. They have made themselves into a threat, and I don't back down from threats, and neither do alot of people. If that bothers some pissy pants crybabies who want everything to be peace and love, I don't care. Playtime stops when threats start.
Sorry if that offends your effete worldview.
Great, so you voted. Exactly what I advocate.
That's rich from the guy who sees the Trumpian alt-right bogeyman under every rock and behind every corner, and literally stamps his internet foot in scathing unhinged tirades. You go live in that civil moderate bipartisan echo chamber Mitch McConnell.
In fact I did stomp liberals doing nearly 20 years of politics. We control the Governor and Legislature of Iowa, and we just spent the last legislative session stomping the liberals into the ground. I stomp them on facebook, stomp them in debate in public, and never back down an inch anywhere.
And I'm not the only one. You think the Left is going to stop the aggression? They aren't. They have made themselves into a threat, and I don't back down from threats, and neither do alot of people. If that bothers some pissy pants crybabies who want everything to be peace and love, I don't care. Playtime stops when threats start.
Sorry if that offends your effete worldview.
Great, so you voted. Exactly what I advocate.
That's rich from the guy who sees the Trumpian alt-right bogeyman under every rock and behind every corner, and literally stamps his internet foot in scathing unhinged tirades. You go live in that civil moderate bipartisan echo chamber Mitch McConnell.
In fact I did stomp liberals doing nearly 20 years of politics. We control the Governor and Legislature of Iowa, and we just spent the last legislative session stomping the liberals into the ground. I stomp them on facebook, stomp them in debate in public, and never back down an inch anywhere.
And I'm not the only one. You think the Left is going to stop the aggression? They aren't. They have made themselves into a threat, and I don't back down from threats, and neither do alot of people. If that bothers some pissy pants crybabies who want everything to be peace and love, I don't care. Playtime stops when threats start.
Sorry if that offends your effete worldview.
US Civil War = 600,000 dead of total population numbering 39000000 or about 1.5 percent
Current population 330,000,000 with 1.5% dead would yield 4,950,000 dead, make it even 5 million
for my city of 200,000 that is 3,000
Total number of military combatants in the Civil War numbered about 3,000,000
or about 7.7% of total population, or about 1 in 13, but about 1 in 6.5 males
May 1970, Kent State University campus. Just imagine the outcome, had the students charged the guardsmen, when shooting started. The guardsmen were part time soldiers, not highly trained, and badly outnumbered.
Students overpower guardsmen, take weapons and take over the campus. Violence breaks out in other cities.
What does the Mayor of Baltimore say? Take whatever weapons you have, and go to DC to join up with others, and take over the city and the government?
What do police in Baltimore do when handed such an order by their mayor?
What about towns like Berkeley? Do they fall to the left, and link up with nearby Oakland? And then they walk over the Bay Bridge to link up with San Francisco?
Do most blacks and Hispanics don black outfits and join with the college students, and head for the upper middle suburbs, of Houston, Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis, etc.?
How long until airports close? What will the military do? Will they simply stay in garrison? How about civilian police forces?
What about city police, fire and paramedic services? Hospitals? What about grocery stores, gasoline stations? Gun stores?
OHIO (1970 lyrics by Canadian Neil Young)
"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio."
Insofar as songs were sung about such matters before, I am not afraid to talk about this.
Four years later, the house where Patty Hearst's captors were hiding, was utterly destroyed.
We watched these events on television. That was not very far from the flames and smoke of the 1965 Watts Riots, or the later 1992 Rodney King Riots.
FYI the 1992 Riots actually kicked off with many whites at City Hall miles away from South Central. But it very soon escalated in the South Central area. Police backed away, to organize.
Police Chief Gates took much criticism, for waiting to organize, but that is actually what a policeman neighbor told me they are trained to do. Keep yourself alive, wait for sufficient numbers in order to be able to take control. Do not sacrifice yourselves one at a time, when outnumbered.
That's rich from the guy who sees the Trumpian alt-right bogeyman under every rock and behind every corner, and literally stamps his internet foot in scathing unhinged tirades. You go live in that civil moderate bipartisan echo chamber Mitch McConnell.
In fact I did stomp liberals doing nearly 20 years of politics. We control the Governor and Legislature of Iowa, and we just spent the last legislative session stomping the liberals into the ground. I stomp them on facebook, stomp them in debate in public, and never back down an inch anywhere.
And I'm not the only one. You think the Left is going to stop the aggression? They aren't. They have made themselves into a threat, and I don't back down from threats, and neither do alot of people. If that bothers some pissy pants crybabies who want everything to be peace and love, I don't care. Playtime stops when threats start.
Sorry if that offends your effete worldview.
Historians are the best to be able to divine where the US is headed, because we're not going anywhere societies in the past haven't already gone.
IMO one day in the near future there are going to be a great many bewildered and unprepared people in this country.
The recovery of oil prices in the early 2000s gave Venezuela oil funds not seen since the 1980s.[12] The Venezuelan government then established populist policies that initially boosted the Venezuelan economy and increased social spending, significantly reducing economic inequality and poverty.[12][13][14][15] However, such policies later became controversial, since they destabilized the nation's economy, resulting in hyperinflation, an economic depression, and drastic increases in poverty, disease, child mortality, malnutrition, and crime.[16][17][12][18][19][20][21][22]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela
VERY well said sir! I fully concur! Been there, done that, got the damned tee shirt!
What will it look like? Venezuela is probably a good example:
That is a good bet given it's modern occurrence.
Frighteningly, Venezuela didn't have hundreds of Trillions of dollars in debt and unfunded liabilities to sustain it's welfare state culture.
One can only wonder in cold sweats what that is going to look like here once confidence pops in an unsustainable economy based on debt and fiat currency.
Thank you sir. You know as well as I, when you get neck deep in it, you see how the Left works. Not saying there aren't some alt-right nutters out there, but the Left is far far more organized, and it flows right down from the top to the protest down the street, all bankrolled, managed, and coordinated astroturf.
Most don't see this because it doesn't splash in the headlines, but those who have gotten beyond the surface do. Little of what you do see from them is random, and they are working their scorched earth agenda with full intentions of escalating.
Thank you sir. You know as well as I, when you get neck deep in it, you see how the Left works. Not saying there aren't some alt-right nutters out there, but the Left is far far more organized, and it flows right down from the top to the protest down the street, all bankrolled, managed, and coordinated astroturf.
Most don't see this because it doesn't splash in the headlines, but those who have gotten beyond the surface do. Little of what you do see from them is random, and they are working their scorched earth agenda with full intentions of escalating.
As a former GOP precinct captain in Cook County, IL - some 20-plus years ago, you have no idea how prescient your comments are given what I saw firsthand all those years ago.
It is a form of extortion being organized to the point where we will be demanded to capitulate and surrender to their total rule or they will incite their pawns to burn it all down and take out all potential 'enemies' of their progressive putsch.
For them, this is war - and a significant portion of the population is on their side.
I pray that I am wrong, but in my own opinion, I suspect that yesterday the first shots of CWII were fired.
It appears that all hell is about to break loose and the S is about to HTF (feel free to add your own doomsday metaphor here).
The Left will see to it that we have no choice but to fight back. The coup with the usurper failed to destroy our Republic.
Hillary Clinton failed to get elected. If you think about it, it's really the only move they have, now.
What are we supposed to stand on as a people? God? He's been rejected and banned. Liberty? People do not want that risk. They want 'security' and a hand-out and those well-off thinkSpeak for yourself instead of thinking you speak for us all.
When did the Civil War start?
When did the 2nd Civil War start?
You'll get different answers to each question depending upon the historian, but the main point here is that many would say the 2nd Civil War has already started and I would agree.
Thank you sir. You know as well as I, when you get neck deep in it, you see how the Left works. Not saying there aren't some alt-right nutters out there, but the Left is far far more organized, and it flows right down from the top to the protest down the street, all bankrolled, managed, and coordinated astroturf.You are right about the left being organized, 'community organized', and quite well funded (and likely armed far better than most give it credit for, especially at the gang level). Little ACORNS have been growing, and the country has been looted to pick up the tab.
Most don't see this because it doesn't splash in the headlines, but those who have gotten beyond the surface do. Little of what you do see from them is random, and they are working their scorched earth agenda with full intentions of escalating.
I pray that I am wrong, but in my own opinion, I suspect that yesterday the first shots of CWII were fired.Well, they tried looting, cheating, stealing, rigging the election, and damnit, none of it worked. Full Media control isn't enough. Obamaphone flash mobs on social media didn't get the job done. Stacking the courts with liberal judges didn't get it.
It appears that all hell is about to break loose and the S is about to HTF (feel free to add your own doomsday metaphor here).
The Left will see to it that we have no choice but to fight back. The coup with the usurper failed to destroy our Republic.
Hillary Clinton failed to get elected. If you think about it, it's really the only move they have, now.
:thumbsup:
Well, they tried looting, cheating, stealing, rigging the election, and damnit, none of it worked. Full Media control isn't enough. Obamaphone flash mobs on social media didn't get the job done. Stacking the courts with liberal judges didn't get it.
Yep, they are running out of options. It's time to sh*t or quit. They aren't quitters, no matter what people think of the snowflakes and pajama boys who are just a smokescreen.
What would do it is getting a ruling form a stacked SC that outlawed gun ownership which they so desire. That would be a bridge too far. That would set off the fuse.When they come for the guns, it isn't time to bury them. It's time to carry them.
Those significant populations are in the cities. Where food, power and water are not produced. And they don't know how to produce it. Just trying to keep a lid on hungry inner city types will consume most of their resources.
But is best BY FAR to not go there.