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POLITICS
'I am outraged': DC bishop denounces Trump's church visit after police clear protesters with tear gas
Jeanine Santucci
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington condemned President Donald Trump on Monday for his visit to St. John's Episcopal Church near the White House after law enforcement officers used tear gas to clear protesters from the area.
"Let me be clear: The president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that our churches stand for," Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde told CNN.
"And to do so... he sanctioned the use of tear gas by police officers in riot gear to clear the church yard. I am outraged," Budde said.
Budde is the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese Washington, overseeing more than 80 Episcopal congregations, including St. John's. She is the first woman to serve in her position.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/01/mariann-edgar-budde-slams-trump-church-visit-after-george-floyd-protesters-tear-gassed/5313842002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/01/mariann-edgar-budde-slams-trump-church-visit-after-george-floyd-protesters-tear-gassed/5313842002/)
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/church-white-house-speech-fire/2020/06/01/id/970055/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/church-white-house-speech-fire/2020/06/01/id/970055/)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500576-trump-mobilizes-military-in-dc-to-quell-protests-as-tear-gas-fired (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500576-trump-mobilizes-military-in-dc-to-quell-protests-as-tear-gas-fired)
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Trump is giving the election to Biden. If Biden wins its entirely because of Trump.
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Trump is giving the election to Biden. If Biden wins its entirely because of Trump.
Do you realize how many times war and battle is mentioned in the Bible?
Or how how many wars have been raged on its behalf in the judeo-christian era alone?
Or how Anitfa is a Godless pro-communist manifesto(d) philosphy , who if truth be known, is at war with us?
Go ahead and give credibility to this left leaning Archbishop and the commie rag USA Today..... I often agree with you here, but you are WAAAAAY off base this time.
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Go ahead and give credibility to this left leaning Archbishop and the commie rag USA Today..... I often agree with you here, but you are WAAAAAY off base this time.
Yeah, I get the feeling this lady is just a leftist pawn in a dying church that left Christ centerness years ago.... Now all they own is a lot of prime real estate and little else including sway in anything I value opinion wise.
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"Let me be clear: The president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission
The Pharisee has spoken.
BTW, the Bible is not part of a "tradition. And no one needs your permission to visit a church.
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Do you realize how many times war and battle is mentioned in the Bible?
Or how how many wars have been raged on its behalf in the judeo-christian era alone?
Or how Anitfa is a Godless pro-communist manifesto(d) philosphy , who if truth be known, is at war with us?
Go ahead and give credibility to this left leaning Archbishop and the commie rag USA Today..... I often agree with you here, but you are WAAAAAY off base this time.
Agreed. Chosen daughter, you just lost me.
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I keep hearing the protesters who were gassed were "peaceful." Maybe, maybe not. But were they allowed in that particular area? I thought they weren't. In any event, if they were told to move and didn't, then they brought the tear gas on themselves.
And as for Trump and his photo-op -- well, it is election season and this sort of thing impresses his base. I don't like it, but that's Trump, the entertainer.
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*****rollingeyes*****
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POLITICS
'I am outraged': DC bishop denounces Trump's church visit after police clear protesters with tear gas
Jeanine Santucci
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington condemned President Donald Trump on Monday for his visit to St. John's Episcopal Church near the White House after law enforcement officers used tear gas to clear protesters from the area.
"Let me be clear: The president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission
How DARE he? Who does he think he is,her?
Obviously,she is the only one allowed to use the Bible,and this sort of thing could cut into her fund-raising.
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Do you realize how many times war and battle is mentioned in the Bible?
Or how how many wars have been raged on its behalf in the judeo-christian era alone?
Or how Anitfa is a Godless pro-communist manifesto(d) philosphy , who if truth be known, is at war with us?
Go ahead and give credibility to this left leaning Archbishop and the commie rag USA Today..... I often agree with you here, but you are WAAAAAY off base this time.
I stand by my words. Its obvious the Bishop is a left leaning phony. What I said is that Trump is giving Biden the election. He is.
His display was phony too. The “When I drink my little wine … and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,†Christian trying to hold up that Bible awkwardly with no words is as phony as George Floyds fake bill. The ink was running. What was the purpose?
Just answer what the purpose, and what it served? It provided fuel for the liberals. That's it, and they will use it heavily. Good Job Trump.
And unless someone can prove those protesters were violent then the President just gassed peaceful protesters. The ones he said he thought had the right to assemble. That's a score for Biden big time.
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I stand by my words. Its obvious the Bishop is a left leaning phony. What I said is that Trump is giving Biden the election. He is.
His display was phony too. The “When I drink my little wine … and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,†Christian trying to hold up that Bible awkwardly with no words is as phony as George Floyds fake bill. The ink was running. What was the purpose?
Just answer what the purpose, and what it served? It provided fuel for the liberals. That's it, and they will use it heavily. Good Job Trump.
You would not accept an explanation if it were served up on a silver platter, so why bother?
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You would not accept an explanation if it were served up on a silver platter, so why bother?
You could try. Because the entire nation is probably trying to figure out what that was about. Especially if there was violent protesters he should have been in the bunker instead of walking across the street for a fake photo shoot.
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The Pharisee has spoken.
BTW, the Bible is not part of a "tradition. And no one needs your permission to visit a church.
This Bishop is as much a Christian as was Anton Lavay. Who else is unwelcome in "her" Diocese?
Then I consider who is her Pope. Things really are coming unglued.
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You could try. Because the entire nation is probably trying to figure out what that was about. Especially if there was violent protesters he should have been in the bunker instead of walking across the street for a fake photo shoot.
He could try, but its clear to most of us its a waste of time to try reason with progressive ideologues.
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Could even be worse if this is true
Authorities also expelled at least one Episcopal priest and a seminarian from the church's patio.
“They turned holy ground into a battleground,†said the Rev. Gini Gerbasi.
Gerbasi, who serves as rector at a different Saint John’s Episcopal Church in Georgetown, arrived at St. John’s Lafayette earlier that day with what she said were at least 20 other priests and a group of laypeople. They were organized by the Episcopal Diocese of Washington to serve as a “peaceful presence in support of protestors.â€
The volunteers and clergy offered water, snacks, and hand sanitizer to demonstrators who were gathered in Lafayette Park across the street — which sits directly in front of the White House — to denounce racism and police brutality following the death of George Floyd.
But sometime after six in the evening, when volunteers were packing up supplies, Gerbasi said police suddenly began to expel demonstrators from the park — before the 7:00 pm curfew announced for Washington residents earlier in the day.
“I was suddenly coughing from the tear gas,†she said. “We heard those explosions and people would drop to the ground because you weren't sure what it was.â€
The Rev. Glenna J. Huber, the rector of the Church of the Epiphany who was at St. John's but left as the National Guard arrived, said she watched as police rushed into the area she had just fled. Concerned, the priest sent a frantic email to clergy at the church urging them to be careful.
Back at St. John's, Gerbasi said she was dressed in clerical garb and standing on church grounds as police approached.
“I’m there in my little pink sweater in my collar, my gray hair up in a ponytail, my reading glasses on, and my seminarian who was with me — she got tear gas in her eyes,†she said.
Gerbasi said as she and the seminarian watched, police began to expel people from the church patio.
“The police in their riot gear with their black shields and the whole bit start pushing on to the patio of St. John's Lafayette Square,†she said, adding that people around her began crying out in pain, claiming to be shot with non-lethal projectiles.
Gerbasi and others eventually fled the scene, leaving emergency medical supplies behind. By the time she reached K street several blocks away and checked her phone, Trump was already in front of the church holding a Bible.
“That's what it was for: to clear that patio so that man could stand in front of that building with a Bible,†said Gerbasi.
https://religionnews.com/2020/06/02/ahead-of-trump-bible-photo-op-police-forcibly-expel-priest-from-st-johns-church-near-white-house/
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This Bishop is as much a Christian as was Anton Lavay. Who else is unwelcome in "her" Diocese?
Then I consider who is her Pope. Things really are coming unglued.
I thought she might be a Richard Grenell kind of Christian.
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I thought she might be a Richard Grenell kind of Christian.
Good one. BTW when are you gonna drop the charade?
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He could try, but its clear to most of us its a waste of time to try reason with progressive ideologues.
I wouldn't be the first to say that Trump is the progressive.
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You could try.
BTDT. No thanks. I didn't even get a lousy T-shirt.
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Not everyone in the White House was thrilled with the church photo op.
One senior aide was exuberantly telling friends the photograph of him holding a Bible in front of the church that had been attacked by vandals was an “iconic†moment for the president.
But a senior White House official told Axios that when they saw the tear gas clearing the crowd for Trump to walk to the church with his entourage: “I’ve never been more ashamed. I’m really honestly disgusted. I’m sick to my stomach. And they’re all celebrating it. They’re very very proud of themselves.â€
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/06/ive-never-ashamed-im-really-honestly-disgusted-im-sick-stomach/
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But a senior White House official told Axios that when they saw the tear gas clearing the crowd for Trump to walk to the church with his entourage: “I’ve never been more ashamed. I’m really honestly disgusted. I’m sick to my stomach. And they’re all celebrating it. They’re very very proud of themselves.â€
Ah, the ubiquitous anonymous "senior white house official".
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I wouldn't be the first to say that Trump is the progressive.
I wouldn't be the first to say that you parrot progressive propaganda.
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I also feel the Bible and church display was unnecessary for the speech. But that’s probably minor in the minds of the public versus all the looting, shooting, killing and burning
This bishops outrage is trivial at this moment
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Now it happened on another Sabbath, also, that He entered the synagogue and taught. And a man was there whose right hand was withered. So the scribes and Pharisees watched Him closely, whether He would heal on the Sabbath, that they might find an accusation against Him. But He knew their thoughts, and said to the man who had the withered hand, “Arise and stand here.†And he arose and stood. Then Jesus said to them, “I will ask you one thing: Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy?†And when He had looked around at them all, He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.†And he did so, and his hand was restored as whole as the other. But they were filled with rage, and discussed with one another what they might do to Jesus.
Luke 6:6-11
Sound familiar?
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POLITICS
'I am outraged': DC bishop denounces Trump's church visit after police clear protesters with tear gas
Jeanine Santucci
USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — The bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington condemned President Donald Trump on Monday for his visit to St. John's Episcopal Church near the White House after law enforcement officers used tear gas to clear protesters from the area.
"Let me be clear: The president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that our churches stand for," Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde told CNN.
"And to do so... he sanctioned the use of tear gas by police officers in riot gear to clear the church yard. I am outraged," Budde said.
Budde is the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese Washington, overseeing more than 80 Episcopal congregations, including St. John's. She is the first woman to serve in her position.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/01/mariann-edgar-budde-slams-trump-church-visit-after-george-floyd-protesters-tear-gassed/5313842002/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/01/mariann-edgar-budde-slams-trump-church-visit-after-george-floyd-protesters-tear-gassed/5313842002/)
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/church-white-house-speech-fire/2020/06/01/id/970055/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/church-white-house-speech-fire/2020/06/01/id/970055/)
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500576-trump-mobilizes-military-in-dc-to-quell-protests-as-tear-gas-fired (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/500576-trump-mobilizes-military-in-dc-to-quell-protests-as-tear-gas-fired)
Sweetheart.... You do realize that the rioters/terrorists did try to burn down the church right? I see no problem with a photo op.... Good for Trump! You are a lunatic.....
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Statement by senator Ben Sasse.
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I also feel the Bible and church display was unnecessary for the speech.
If they hadn't set fire to the church the night before I would agree. As it happened the imagery was powerful.
And since one side sees a statement of solidarity and law an order and the other sees a crass photo op, the gulf is so wide, dialogue is impossible, I do not believe there will ever be a peaceful outcome.
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I also feel the Bible and church display was unnecessary for the speech. But that’s probably minor in the minds of the public versus all the looting, shooting, killing and burning
This bishops outrage is trivial at this moment
I agree. I take the bishop's comments as just one more critic weighing in. Blah-blah-blah. Really don't care.
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I stand by my words. Its obvious the Bishop is a left leaning phony. What I said is that Trump is giving Biden the election. He is.
His display was phony too. The “When I drink my little wine … and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,†Christian trying to hold up that Bible awkwardly with no words is as phony as George Floyds fake bill. The ink was running. What was the purpose?
Just answer what the purpose, and what it served? It provided fuel for the liberals. That's it, and they will use it heavily. Good Job Trump.
And unless someone can prove those protesters were violent then the President just gassed peaceful protesters. The ones he said he thought had the right to assemble. That's a score for Biden big time.
What you are calling a phony photo op, I am calling a symbolic message. The POTUS holding the bible in front of a failed targeted burning of a historic church by a Godless, America hating enemy (Antifa/BLM) who wants to destroy us?
You just don't get it. We need more rallying cries like this.
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Presidential photo op with a Bible?
(https://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/bill-clinton-bible-e1276083959253.jpg)
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Presidential photo op with a Bible?
(https://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/bill-clinton-bible-e1276083959253.jpg)
The decades old tradition of Presidents staging photo ops in front of churches is suddenly 'reprehensible'.
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A lying Bishop? How about that.
Raheem Kassam
@RaheemKassam
Park Police said they used smoke canisters after being pelted with bottles, not tear gas. And they also didn't co-ordinate with the White House.
So where are the corrections from CNN, MSNBC, NYT, and *all* the others.
Also will Twitter "fact check" all the lies out there?
https://thenationalpulse.com/news/there-was-no-tear-gas/ (https://thenationalpulse.com/news/there-was-no-tear-gas/)
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Presidential photo op with a Bible?
(https://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/bill-clinton-bible-e1276083959253.jpg)
Hey I detest Slick Willie as much as the next briefer, but I would venture that with WJC's southern baptist backgorund and raising, plus a half dozen years or so of Vacation Bible School? I'd bet WJC is probably more knowledeable of the bible than at least half of us here.
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Hey I detest Slick Willie as much as the next briefer, but I would venture that with WJC's southern baptist backgorund and raising, plus a half dozen years or so of Vacation Bible School? I'd bet WJC is probably more knowledeable of the bible than at least half of us here.
May have a lot of "head knowledge" but maybe not a lot of "heart knowledge".
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Heather Caygle
@heatherscope
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Pelosi asked about Trump’s Bible photo op last night. She goes and grabs her own bible and is now reading from it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZg2bdrUEA0F-JI?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Trump managed to get Pelosi to read her Bible.
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Hey I detest Slick Willie as much as the next briefer, but I would venture that with WJC's southern baptist backgorund and raising, plus a half dozen years or so of Vacation Bible School? I'd bet WJC is probably more knowledeable of the bible than at least half of us here.
Agreed. I also recall an interview with Dick Morris where he gave an account of Bill Clinton giving a speech. The speech was about seven pages long. When presented with the speech in advance, Clinton read it over, made a couple of changes, and handed it back. When it was time to give the speech, Clinton utilized teleprompters as all politicians do. But in the middle of the speech, the teleprompters went blank. Yet Clinton did not miss a beat, reciting the speech verbatim from the memory of reading it one time. Slick has a photographic memory, so I would agree that he has much scripture tucked up in his memory.
But keep in mind that satan can also recite scripture from memory. Just sayin'.
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But keep in mind that satan can also recite scripture from memory. Just sayin'.
Yep.
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Is this bishop really "outraged?" Or is it just a term used to get noticed by the news?
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Is this bishop really "outraged?" Or is it just a term used to get noticed by the news?
Who isn't outraged? We're all outraged. That, and a dollar, will get you a cup of coffee at 7-Eleven.
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Hey I detest Slick Willie as much as the next briefer, but I would venture that with WJC's southern baptist backgorund and raising, plus a half dozen years or so of Vacation Bible School? I'd bet WJC is probably more knowledeable of the bible than at least half of us here.
Mebbe so. But we know the ‘Toon by his fruit.
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Brit Hume @brithume
The Trump church photo op was crude and transparent. But if the bishop has a word of criticism for the violent “protesters†who have done such damage in this city and others across the country, I have yet to hear it.
6:52 PM · Jun 2, 2020·
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Apparently it was a show of bravery for Trump who didn't want to be seen as hiding in his bunker.
Prepare ye the way of the Trump. Make straight paths for him
by Timothy P. Carney
| June 02, 2020 12:35 AM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/prepare-ye-the-way-of-the-trump-make-straight-paths-for-him (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/prepare-ye-the-way-of-the-trump-make-straight-paths-for-him)
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And unless someone can prove those protesters were violent then the President just gassed peaceful protesters. The ones he said he thought had the right to assemble. That's a score for Biden big time.
But he said he was on the side of peaceful protesters?!?
Everytime I read your posts, I want to read another @Chosen Daughter . :seeya:
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Trump managed to get Pelosi to read her Bible.
But I'll bet she skipped over some parts -- such as Thou Shalt Not Kill.
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Apparently it was a show of bravery for Trump who didn't want to be seen as hiding in his bunker.
Geez, there's no way Trump can win. Trump issues statements. The press reports that Trump is remaining silent hiding inside the White House while in the very same stories complains about what Trump said in his statements. When challenged on this, the press admonishes Trump and asks for him to come out and setting the record straight. So Trump comes out and sets the record straight, yet now the press says he's only doing it so he won't be seen as hiding in his bunker. Good grief, @Chosen Daughter. You will never be satisfied.
Trump frowns. You blast him for frowning, saying he should smile more. So Trump smiles. And you blast him for smiling because he is only doing it to cover up the frowning. That's psychotic.
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Geez, there's no way Trump can win.
Increasingly that is exactly the case, he'll basically be criticized for anything he does. Might even be a regular feature of the job.
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Increasingly that is exactly the case, he'll basically be criticized for anything he does. Might even be a regular feature of the job.
If Slow Joe steals this thing, we need to all we can to destroy his presidency. (Like if he didn't need any help). This war is a 2 way street
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(Still waiting on that apology from that Bishop, since its been shown and officially stated from the Park Service that no Tear Gas was used)
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But he said he was on the side of peaceful protesters?!?
Everytime I read your posts, I want to read another @Chosen Daughter . :seeya:
Falsehoods and all.
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Good grief, @Chosen Daughter. You will never be satisfied.
Trump frowns. You blast him for frowning, saying he should smile more. So Trump smiles. And you blast him for smiling because he is only doing it to cover up the frowning. That's psychotic.
@Chosen Daughter @Hoodat
Not true. If he were to castrate himself and pay someone to strip him naked and nail him to a cross to be placed along side a public road,she MIGHT forgive him for having sex with women he wasn't married to or divorcing women.
MAYBE.
SOME people drag too much of their personal history into their public and political lives because they just can't "let things go".
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But he said he was on the side of peaceful protesters?!?
Everytime I read your posts, I want to read another @Chosen Daughter . :seeya:
They weren’t peaceful according to the statement released by the park service police who had to sweep the place of hammer wielding “protesters.â€
Date: June 2, 2020
Contact: uspp_pio@nps.gov
The United States Park Police (USPP) is committed to the peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. However, this past weekend’s demonstrations at Lafayette Park and across the National Mall included activities that were not part of a peaceful protest, which resulted in injuries to USPP officers in the line of duty, the destruction of public property and the defacing of memorials and monuments. During four days of demonstrations, 51 members of the USPP were injured; of those, 11 were transported to the hospital and released and three were admitted.
Multiple agencies assisted the USPP in responding to and quelling the acts of destruction and violence over the course of the weekend in order to protect citizens and property.
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
You’re both liars @Once-Ler @Chosen Daughter your alliance with the violent rioters, arsonists and anarchists attacking secret service and park police is disgusting. You both sicken me.
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They weren’t peaceful according to the statement released by the park service police who had to sweep the place of hammer wielding “protesters.â€
Date: June 2, 2020
Contact: uspp_pio@nps.gov
The United States Park Police (USPP) is committed to the peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. However, this past weekend’s demonstrations at Lafayette Park and across the National Mall included activities that were not part of a peaceful protest, which resulted in injuries to USPP officers in the line of duty, the destruction of public property and the defacing of memorials and monuments. During four days of demonstrations, 51 members of the USPP were injured; of those, 11 were transported to the hospital and released and three were admitted.
Multiple agencies assisted the USPP in responding to and quelling the acts of destruction and violence over the course of the weekend in order to protect citizens and property.
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
You’re both liars @Once-Ler @Chosen Daughter your alliance with the violent rioters, arsonists and anarchists attacking secret service and park police is disgusting. You both sicken me.
The lies are stomach turning.
According to the Park Service there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St John's. If that were not so I'm sure someone would have video.
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The lies are stomach turning.
According to the Park Service there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St John's. If that were not so I'm sure someone would have video.
Fantastical liars. Neither have any sense of irony when they attack the president who is trying to bring order and restore our civil society.
Violence is NOT protest. Arson is NOT protest. Destruction of our treasured monuments is NOT protest.
CNN’s propaganda, notwithstanding.
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Falsehoods and all.
Lies make Jesus cry.
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Trump can hardly take a leak in DC without outraging some snowflake. bleep this guy.
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You’re both liars @Once-Ler @Chosen Daughter your alliance with the violent rioters, arsonists and anarchists attacking secret service and park police is disgusting. You both sicken me.
@aligncare
There it is! 888high58888
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The lies are stomach turning.
According to the Park Service there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St John's. If that were not so I'm sure someone would have video.
@skeeter
Define "prior". Let's say,for example,that the park police cleared the parasites out of the park 15 minutes before Trump made that walk. IF that is so,then it COULD be TRUTHFULLY said that "there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St.Johns."
Kinda like Bubba's truthful statement,"that all depends on what the meaning of the world "is" is."
BTW,I personally consider that walk to be THE most boneheaded move of his presidency. He HAD to know that DC Church Chick is a left-wing loon,and most likely a lesbian,and that he would get ZERO positive feedback from it.
It accomplished nothing positive,and gave the left and their running dog lackeys the excuse they needed to go after him.
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@skeeter
Define "prior". Let's say,for example,that the park police cleared the parasites out of the park 15 minutes before Trump made that walk. IF that is so,then it COULD be TRUTHFULLY said that "there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St.Johns."
Kinda like Bubba's truthful statement,"that all depends on what the meaning of the world "is" is."
BTW,I personally consider that walk to be THE most boneheaded move of his presidency. He HAD to know that DC Church Chick is a left-wing loon,and most likely a lesbian,and that he would get ZERO positive feedback from it.
It accomplished nothing positive,and gave the left and their running dog lackeys the excuse they needed to go after him.
I think we can assume by now, @sneakypete, that the larger population expects the rat media's lunatic anti Trump spin for every damn thing the man does and summarily discounts it as static. The signal came through loud and clear.
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I think we can assume by now, @sneakypete, that the larger population expects the rat media's lunatic anti Trump spin for every damn thing the man does and summarily discounts it as static. The signal came through loud and clear.
@skeeter
Well,the Anti-Trumpers love to pretend they are shocked and outraged over headlines like "Trump takes a nap!",but we all know they are drama queens that are wetting themselves with joy at the thought of going after the "Anti-Bush" yet one more time.
I am considering referring to Trump as "President "Anti-Bush" Trump in the future to keep their blood pressure up.
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@skeeter
Well,the Anti-Trumpers love to pretend they are shocked and outraged over headlines like "Trump takes a nap!",but we all know they are drama queens that are wetting themselves with joy at the thought of going after the "Anti-Bush" yet one more time.
I am considering referring to Trump as "President "Anti-Bush" Trump in the future to keep their blood pressure up.
@sneakypete
Well, Pete there are some of us, who have no problem being critical when the guy makes a mistake, and believe me he does.
But OTOH.... AT this very moment .... look at the streets..... WE ARE AT WAR. Time to circle the wagons, fight back, and do our best to destroy the left in a unified manner.
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@skeeter
Define "prior". Let's say,for example,that the park police cleared the parasites out of the park 15 minutes before Trump made that walk. IF that is so,then it COULD be TRUTHFULLY said that "there was no tear gassing prior to Trump's walk to St.Johns."
Kinda like Bubba's truthful statement,"that all depends on what the meaning of the world "is" is."
BTW,I personally consider that walk to be THE most boneheaded move of his presidency. He HAD to know that DC Church Chick is a left-wing loon,and most likely a lesbian,and that he would get ZERO positive feedback from it.
It accomplished nothing positive,and gave the left and their running dog lackeys the excuse they needed to go after him.
Please reconsider. You said it yourself, sneaky. No matter what the president says or does, it’s reported as a negative. Trump is not about to play defense with liars, that’s not in his calculus. He’s gonna do what he thinks is right, liars be damned.
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@skeeter
BTW,I personally consider that walk to be THE most boneheaded move of his presidency. He HAD to know that DC Church Chick is a left-wing loon,and most likely a lesbian,and that he would get ZERO positive feedback from it.
@sneakypete
I acutally view it a little different. Look at it this way... Leftist BLM/Antifa attack and almost destroy a 200 year old historic church basically acrossed the street from the WH. Antifa in their philosphy is pro-communist, anti-capitalism, and anti- religion
Trump's appearance over there was purely symbolic, and actually a great move to show Antifa they're attempts to destroy symbols of our freedoms just won't work.
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They weren’t peaceful according to the statement released by the park service police who had to sweep the place of hammer wielding “protesters.â€
Date: June 2, 2020
Contact: uspp_pio@nps.gov
The United States Park Police (USPP) is committed to the peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. However, this past weekend’s demonstrations at Lafayette Park and across the National Mall included activities that were not part of a peaceful protest, which resulted in injuries to USPP officers in the line of duty, the destruction of public property and the defacing of memorials and monuments. During four days of demonstrations, 51 members of the USPP were injured; of those, 11 were transported to the hospital and released and three were admitted.
Multiple agencies assisted the USPP in responding to and quelling the acts of destruction and violence over the course of the weekend in order to protect citizens and property.
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
You’re both liars @Once-Ler @Chosen Daughter your alliance with the violent rioters, arsonists and anarchists attacking secret service and park police is disgusting. You both sicken me.
You sicken me. 6:30 PM was when they started gas bombing and shooting people with rubber bullets. Disperse people so that Trump could walk across the street and hold up his Bible. There are many reports in even Conservative news sources that say the protests were peaceful all day.
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Please reconsider. You said it yourself, sneaky. No matter what the president says or does, it’s reported as a negative. Trump is not about to play defense with liars, that’s not in his calculus. He’s gonna do what he thinks is right, liars be damned.
@aligncare
My very first thought,virtually as it was happening,is "WOW! What a boneheaded mistake! WTF was he thinking?"
And I haven't changed my mind.
There is fighting back,and there is giving your enemy ammo. He gave them ammo when he did that.
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There are many reports in even Conservative news sources that say the protests were peaceful all day.
So all that footage of yesterday's violence there was a stage production? What's gotten into you?
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The truth will come out. If you reward peaceful with violence what do you expect?
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@aligncare
My very first thought,virtually as it was happening,is "WOW! What a boneheaded mistake! WTF was he thinking?"
And I haven't changed my mind.
OK, but consider there are many others who deeply appreciated the gesture and what it symbolized.
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So all that footage of yesterday's violence there was a stage production? What's gotten into you?
@catfish1957
"I'll take insanity for 100 dollars,please!"
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OK, but consider there are many others who deeply appreciated the gesture and what it symbolized.
@skeeter
It symbolized that it was safe for a old white guy to walk 100 yards or so if he had a couple of hundred heavily armed bodyguards lining the route he was walking.
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You sicken me. 6:30 PM was when they started gas bombing and shooting people with rubber bullets. Disperse people so that Trump could walk across the street and hold up his Bible. There are many reports in even Conservative news sources that say the protests were peaceful all day.
Should have been live fire, then at least you’d have something to talk about. I hope the rubber bullets hurt, the pepper spray stung, and the flash bangs scared the shit out of your precious rioters.
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So all that footage of yesterday's violence there was a stage production? What's gotten into you?
Nothing has gotten into me. I am just as pissed off at people promoting violence, defacing buildings, looting. But you can't send a mixed message. Say in one minute you support peaceful protest and the next minute start gassing people for a photo Op.
If its not true I apologize, but some are trying to protest peacefully. Bad players are there. This can only get much worse if we can't separate lawless from lawful protest.
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@skeeter
It symbolized that it was safe for a old white guy to walk 100 yards or so if he had a couple of hundred heavily armed bodyguards lining the route he was walking.
Well, no but thats OK.
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Nothing has gotten into me. I am just as pissed off at people promoting violence, defacing buildings, looting. But you can't send a mixed message. Say in one minute you support peaceful protest and the next minute start gassing people for a photo Op.
If its not true I apologize, but some are trying to protest peacefully. Bad players are there. This can only get much worse if we can't separate lawless from lawful protest.
Come on.... The tear gassing was debunked yesterday, and is old news. The Park Services offically stated so. And OTOH, you are against our leader providing symoblic leadership by standing in front of a target that Antifa FAILED to destroy?
Wow, just wow.
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Should have been live fire, then at least you’d have something to talk about. I hope the rubber bullets hurt, the pepper spray stung, and the flash bangs scared the shit out of your precious rioters.
It seems debatable whether this crowd was protesters or rioters. If I am wrong I apologize but you don't shoot people with rubber bullets and gas people who are not committing crimes.
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It seems debatable whether this crowd was protesters or rioters. If I am wrong I apologize but you don't shoot people with rubber bullets and gas people who are not committing crimes.
If even you grant that you might be wrong, and you are, why not just resist commenting?
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The truth will come out.
The truth is already out.
If you reward peaceful with violence what do you expect?
If you repeatedly discard truth as a core principle, then how are you able to discern?
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Come on.... The tear gassing was debunked yesterday, and is old news. The Park Services offically stated so. And OTOH, you are against our leader providing symoblic leadership by standing in front of a target that Antifa FAILED to destroy?
Wow, just wow.
Pepper bombs, whatever they were called. Rubber bullets.
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It seems debatable whether this crowd was protesters or rioters. If I am wrong I apologize but you don't shoot people with rubber bullets and gas people who are not committing crimes.
Debatable? Only in your fervent mind. How much is CNN paying you, anyway?
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The truth will come out.
The truth has come out ... but it doesn't fit your hate mantra so you ignore it.
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If even you grant that you might be wrong, and you are, why not just resist commenting?
I value CD's opinions as much as anyone else. It's the balance we need at TBR to keep if from becoming TOS.
OTOH, I think she is just a tad off on reasoning on some of the rioting issues.
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The truth is already out.
If you repeatedly discard truth as a core principle, then how are you able to discern?
The park Service said that the violence started when Trump violently dispersed the crowd. 6:30 PM
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-protests-monday-washington-dc-curfew/65-c1d1804c-2e25-4ca1-b443-8abd3188ae2c (https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-protests-monday-washington-dc-curfew/65-c1d1804c-2e25-4ca1-b443-8abd3188ae2c)
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You sicken me. 6:30 PM was when they started gas bombing and shooting people with rubber bullets. Disperse people so that Trump could walk across the street and hold up his Bible. There are many reports in even Conservative news sources that say the protests were peaceful all day.
You lied in that very paragraph. I leave it as an exercise for the student to locate it.
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I value CD's opinions as much as anyone else. It's the balance we need at TBR to keep if from becoming TOS.
OTOH, I think she is just a tad off on reasoning on some of the rioting issues.
Differences of opinion are one thing, but I don't think anyone here benefits from unadulterated hate.
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It seems debatable whether this crowd was protesters or rioters. If I am wrong I apologize but you don't shoot people with rubber bullets and gas people who are not committing crimes.
Don't be ridiculous, you will never accept that you were ever wrong. About anything.
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Pepper bombs, whatever they were called.
Pepper bombs
(https://d1nw62gticy6e9.cloudfront.net/uploads/Time_Bomb_Pepper_Seeds.jpg)
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Don't be ridiculous, you will never accept that you were ever wrong. About anything.
The word "seems" is the giveaway. Liberals use that word all the time. It denotes 'perception' rather than 'factual truth'.
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I value CD's opinions as much as anyone else. It's the balance we need at TBR to keep if from becoming TOS.
OTOH, I think she is just a tad off on reasoning on some of the rioting issues.
@catfish1957
:yowsa: :yowsa: :yowsa:
With the stipulation that I see her comments as more of a necessary evil than something of positive value,of course.
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Differences of opinion are one thing, but I don't think anyone here benefits from unadulterated hate.
I'm tired of the lying. I haven't even had my second cup of coffee and I'm hip-deep in the lies told on this thread.
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Differences of opinion are one thing, but I don't think anyone here benefits from unadulterated hate.
:thumbsup:
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Differences of opinion are one thing, but I don't think anyone here benefits from unadulterated hate.
Feel the same about Legal American?????, don't seem to remember the same reaction from you and a few others.
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The park Service said that the violence started when Trump violently dispersed the crowd. 6:30 PM
The part about projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids being thrown, and the caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street seems to have escaped your limited attention. Not to mention that Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police. Try to connect the dots. This may be difficult for you to understand, most things are.
These are the truths you ignore.
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Pepper bombs
(https://d1nw62gticy6e9.cloudfront.net/uploads/Time_Bomb_Pepper_Seeds.jpg)
Nice peppers, and good job. Too many Scovilles for my taste though.
My wife's Poblanos are at about T Minus 2 weeks from start of harvest. Can't wait.
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Feel the same about Legal American?????
Whom does he/she hate? Seems to me he/she is always defending.
Albeit sometimes a bit too energetically.
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You lied in that very paragraph. I leave it as an exercise for the student to locate it.
Where? The park service police article said the violence started at 6:33 PM. Not being able to separate the peaceful from the bad players is only going to make things worse. Makes them want to protest more. Police have a very difficult job to do. I personally thank all of them for putting their lives on the line. But many of these people are only out there protesting. They are people of all races. I saw young white girls interviewed and they said the presidents rhetoric makes them want to protest more.
Look around it isn't stopping. The President was right to say people have the right to protest. But dispersing a peaceful protest is a message to all of the people who are out on the streets to continue. And it promotes more violent rioting.
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Whom does he/she hate?
that's a joke right?
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that's a joke right?
No. Can you answer?
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No. Can you answer?
I don't have the time or inclination to go over her idiotic posting history. If you haven't read the crap, hatred, and lies, then you either deicided to ignore the problem, or somehow randomly missed it.
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that's a joke right?
No. Can you answer?
It’s a no win situation.
Decry the looters and violence and the left shouts back, “Oh, so you support the cops murder of George Floyd?â€
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Where? The park service police article said the violence started at 6:33 PM. Not being able to separate the peaceful from the bad players is only going to make things worse. Makes them want to protest more. Police have a very difficult job to do. I personally thank all of them for putting their lives on the line. But many of these people are only out there protesting. They are people of all races. I saw young white girls interviewed and they said the presidents rhetoric makes them want to protest more.
Look around it isn't stopping. The President was right to say people have the right to protest. But dispersing a peaceful protest is a message to all of the people who are out on the streets to continue. And it promotes more violent rioting.
There were a couple lies in there, and true to form, you ignored them. You really should seek out some professional help before your hatred consumes you.
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It’s a no win situation.
Decry the looters and violence and the left shouts back, “Oh, so you support the cops murder of George Floyd?â€
WTF are you talking about? I said no such f'n thing......
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It’s a no win situation.
Decry the looters and violence and the left shouts back, “Oh, so you support the cops murder of George Floyd?â€
The 'bifurcation fallacy'. Not buying.
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WTF are you talking about? I said no such f'n thing......
I never said you did. Are you a leftist? Sorry, I didn’t know.
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I never said you did. Are you a leftist? Sorry, I didn’t know.
Do I post like a leftist? :cool:
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@Chosen Daughter
Acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan of the United States Park Police corrected the misinformation about teargas – information any half-competent reporter could have and should have found with a small effort (emphasis added):
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html)
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Do I post like a leftist? :cool:
Not in the least. But thanks to @skeeter , during that last exchange I looked up a fallacy new to me, bifurcation.
Pardon me while I bifurcate. Sounds nasty.
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@Chosen Daughter
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html)
In my best CNN announcer’s voice, the protesters were mostly peaceful. What are you worried about? It’s only a flesh wound.
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Not in the least. But thanks to @skeeter , during that last exchange I looked up a fallacy new to me, bifurcation.
Pardon me while I bifurcate. Sounds nasty.
Hope you aren’t wearing suede shoes.
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Statement from United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan about the actions taken over the weekend to protect life and property
Date: June 2, 2020
Contact: uspp_pio@nps.gov
The United States Park Police (USPP) is committed to the peaceful expression of First Amendment rights. However, this past weekend’s demonstrations at Lafayette Park and across the National Mall included activities that were not part of a peaceful protest, which resulted in injuries to USPP officers in the line of duty, the destruction of public property and the defacing of memorials and monuments. During four days of demonstrations, 51 members of the USPP were injured; of those, 11 were transported to the hospital and released and three were admitted.
Multiple agencies assisted the USPP in responding to and quelling the acts of destruction and violence over the course of the weekend in order to protect citizens and property.
On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.
To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.
Throughout the demonstrations, the USPP has not made any arrests. The USPP will always support peaceful assembly but cannot tolerate violence to citizens or officers or damage to our nation’s resources that we are entrusted to protect.
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/6_2_20_statement_from_acting_chief_monahan.htm (https://www.nps.gov/subjects/uspp/6_2_20_statement_from_acting_chief_monahan.htm)
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Do I post like a leftist? :cool:
@catfish1957
YO MAMA!
Juz say-in,dood.
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You’re both liars @Once-Ler @Chosen Daughter your alliance with the violent rioters, arsonists and anarchists attacking secret service and park police is disgusting. You both sicken me.
I feel sorry for you. I watched a man slowly murdered on video and I stand with the peaceful protesters who also think it was wrong. I condemn rioting. May God bless you@aligncare.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs#)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZl-Fa7XsAABr6p?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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I feel sorry for you. I watched a man slowly murdered on video and I stand with the peaceful protesters who also think it was wrong. I condemn rioting. May God bless you@aligncare.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs#)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZl-Fa7XsAABr6p?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Yes. Lets both pray that the rogue cop is caught and charged with murder. Justice!
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z56j06plUgs#)
I'm sitting here asking myself "Why am I watching this untruthful nonsense? Who posted this crap?" Then I looked up and saw Once-ler's name. Amazing how easily someone can lie with such narrative poise. It is also amazing how someone is totally oblivious to how easily his lies are exposed.
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@Chosen Daughter
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/06/americans_are_being_subjected_to_an_orgy_of_disinformation.html)
I have to call you out on your dishonesty. The protests continue and most of them are peaceful. You should watch this video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/06/03/dc-protest-george-floyd-white-house/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/06/03/dc-protest-george-floyd-white-house/)
Antifa is a terrorist group and anyone setting fires, throwing bricks, looting stores should be arrested and serve serious time. Leave the peaceful protesters alone. Trump is only making the situation worse.
And since Trump criticized state leadership look what's still happening at his front doorstep. They are reacting to his words.
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Yes. Lets both pray that the rogue cop is caught and charged with murder. Justice!
@skeeter
Thankfully he was charged with 2nd degree murder today and his accessories have finally also been charged today. Hopefully this will go a long ways towards bridging the deep racial divides we currently face. The wheels of justice turn slowly.
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I'm sitting here asking myself "Why am I watching this untruthful nonsense? Who posted this crap?" Then I looked up and saw Once-ler's name. Amazing how easily someone can lie with such narrative poise. It is also amazing how someone is totally oblivious to how easily his lies are exposed.
I'm sorry my opinion is different than yours @Hoodat . Could you point out something I posted you think is untruthful?
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I stand with the peaceful protesters who also think it was wrong.
What's your take on peaceful protesters who do nothing while others standing among them throw frozen water bottles and brick fragments at police officers?
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@skeeter
Thankfully he was charged with 2nd degree murder today and his accessories have finally also been charged today. Hopefully this will go a long ways towards bridging the deep racial divides we currently face.
Oh please.
We won't bridge the deep racial divides we currently face until certain parties stop using racial animosities for political leverage.
And, as with so many other social and spiritual matters, the first step starts with you.
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What's your take on peaceful protesters who do nothing while others standing among them throw frozen water bottles and brick fragments at police officers?
I against it. There are millions of protesters. Most are peaceful.
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@sneakypete
Well, Pete there are some of us, who have no problem being critical when the guy makes a mistake, and believe me he does.
But OTOH.... AT this very moment .... look at the streets..... WE ARE AT WAR. Time to circle the wagons, fight back, and do our best to destroy the left in a unified manner.
Amen @catfish1957
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I'm sorry my opinion is different than yours @Hoodat . Could you point out something I posted you think is untruthful?
I was referring to the man in the video. His narrative was complete unadulterated BS. Trump gave the order to round up 'Peaceful Protesters'©, tear gas them, shoot them with rubber bullets, and beat the shit out of them? Seriously? You really believe this crap? Maybe someone had the foresight to pick up one of those rubber bullets and hand it over to a reporter. Maybe someone can provide a copy of their medical record showing the treatment they received right after having the crap beat out of them. Or maybe the testimony of someone who actually got tear gassed describing the effects of CS and how those effects differed from pepper blasts. But no, we don't get any of those. All we get is the same old impassioned testimony of someone who wasn't even there, but can recite the opposition account of this event verbatim.
Just curious, did you happen to read the account from Chief Monahan of the US Park Police?
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What's your take on peaceful protesters who do nothing while others standing among them throw frozen water bottles and brick fragments at police officers?
I against it. There are millions of protesters. Most are peaceful.
Excellent. Good to have you on record as being against the protesters in Lafayette Park at 6:33 pm Monday. Because that is exactly what those protesters did. They stood their ground while some among them threw frozen water bottles and brick fragments at Park Police officers.
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You sicken me. 6:30 PM was when they started gas bombing and shooting people with rubber bullets. Disperse people so that Trump could walk across the street and hold up his Bible. There are many reports in even Conservative news sources that say the protests were peaceful all day.
You prefer he hold up the quran?
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@skeeter
Thankfully he was charged with 2nd degree murder today and his accessories have finally also been charged today. Hopefully this will go a long ways towards bridging the deep racial divides we currently face. The wheels of justice turn slowly.
So what are they protesting again? Does anyone really know?
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With all this incessant reporting on how the Park Police shot Peaceful Protesters© with rubber bullets, and "beat the shit out of them" (on Trump's order, of course), can anyone find a single account of any protester suffering a laceration, contusion, broken bone, dislocated joint, ankle sprain, allergic reaction, or bruise from this devastating assault on Monday? Anybody? Surely with all the multitudes of press accounts (essentially parroting the same story), at least one of them would have cited the account of a casualty.
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I have to call you out on your dishonesty.
I have to call you out on your insanity.
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You prefer he hold up the quran?
Jesus isn't an authoritarian. That is why we have freedom of religion. Because Jesus says it is our choice to follow Christ. I don't agree with Islam and if followed true to the Quran it establishes law that is inconsistent with our Constitution. It is a forced religion in much of the world.
There are many, many religions. I don't believe in any except my own Christian faith based on Biblical Truth. But everyone is afforded choice in this Country as long as it doesn't take others freedoms away.
John 3:16 The Pure Word
Because God has loved in such a manner the Satan's world, so that he Gave His Son, the Only Begotten Risen Christ in order that whoever is Continuously by his choice Committing for the result and Purpose of Him, should not perish, but definitely should, by his choice, be Continuously Having Eternal life
Trump standing there with his Bible was stupid. Lip service on his down time from his hateful destructive tweets.
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So what are they protesting again? Does anyone really know?
When has any left wing mob required a reason to ‘protest’?
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So what are they protesting again? Does anyone really know?
Basically, you have a lot of white liberals out there who experience feelings (â†key word) of guilt based on a concept called "white privilege". This concept of "white privilege" emanates from empathy for the inferiority of blacks, and the need for a superior (i.e. white) advocate to champion their cause. It is egregiously condescending to the inferior victim class (i.e. blacks) who really don't need white people advocating for them since they are perfectly capable of advocating for themselves.
The effect of this is to enforce a permanent underclass stigma for blacks with a patronizing reminder that black lives matter (as if people didn't already know that).
Of course these same white liberals would be grossly offended if someone was constantly reminding them that white lives matter. But they know deep down that black people are different. So they do the only thing they know how to do to assuage their own feelings of guilt for their superiority - they patronize.
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John 3:16 The Pure Word
Because God has loved in such a manner the Satan's world, so that he Gave His Son, the Only Begotten Risen Christ in order that whoever is Continuously by his choice Committing for the result and Purpose of Him, should not perish, but definitely should, by his choice, be Continuously Having Eternal life
Trump standing there with his Bible was stupid. Lip service on his down time from his hateful destructive tweets.
Have you ever read John 3:17?
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I was referring to the man in the video. His narrative was complete unadulterated BS. Trump gave the order to round up 'Peaceful Protesters'©, tear gas them, shoot them with rubber bullets, and beat the shit out of them? Seriously? You really believe this crap?
Yes. I saw the video. I thought you had also.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hblX9QwPDaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hblX9QwPDaw#)
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) in a statement: "There is no right to riot, no right to destroy others’ property, and no right to throw rocks at police. But there is a fundamental — a Constitutional — right to protest, and I’m against clearing out a peaceful protest for a photo op that treats the Word of God as a political prop."
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzAmBTYt-I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtzAmBTYt-I#)
GOP Sen. Lankford on President Trump’s church photo-op.
I'm all for arresting rioters, and terrorists. I think our Constitution allows for peaceful protest even it it is inconvenient. What say you?
Maybe someone had the foresight to pick up one of those rubber bullets and hand it over to a reporter. Maybe someone can provide a copy of their medical record showing the treatment they received right after having the crap beat out of them. Or maybe the testimony of someone who actually got tear gassed describing the effects of CS and how those effects differed from pepper blasts. But no, we don't get any of those. All we get is the same old impassioned testimony of someone who wasn't even there, but can recite the opposition account of this event verbatim.
Just curious, did you happen to read the account from Chief Monahan of the US Park Police?
I didn't, but I saw hundreds of protesters at Lafayette Park. Were they all terrorist?
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Yes. I saw the video. I thought you had also.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hblX9QwPDaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hblX9QwPDaw#)
Watched it. Other than the claims being repeated yet again (See Logical Fallacies: Begging the question), I did not see a single account of tear gas being fired, rubber bullets being shot, or anyone having the shit beat out of them. I also find it odd to see these three-second video clips, but nowhere can we find the entire video to examine the context. Coincidence?
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Still waiting. Can anyone produce a rubber bullet picked up off the ground or stuck in someone's clothing? Anyone got an X-ray showing broken bones or torn ligaments from having the shit beat out of them by Park Police? Any medical records detailing symptoms of CS exposure to anyone at Lafayette Park at 6:33 on Monday? Anyone?
And lastly, where is the video? Dozens of cameras rolling, but not a single uninterrupted video account of the encounter.
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Watched it. Other than the claims being repeated yet again (See Logical Fallacies: Begging the question), I did not see a single account of tear gas being fired, rubber bullets being shot, or anyone having the shit beat out of them. I also find it odd to see these three-second video clips, but nowhere can we find the entire video to examine the context. Coincidence?
Right. You watched it and the smoke at 1:20 is just a dude with an awesome vape kit. :thumbsdown:
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Right. You watched it and the smoke at 1:20 is just a dude with an awesome vape kit. :thumbsdown:
Smoke is not tear gas.
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Have you ever read John 3:17?
Of course I have.
For the sake of not typing using NIV from Bible Gateway
John 3:17 New International Version (NIV)
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
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Right. You watched it and the smoke at 1:20 is just a dude with an awesome vape kit. :thumbsdown:
There was this lady talking to reporters. She had a swelling on her face from rubber bullets and her eyes and around eyes were obviously irritated by the Pepper. She said she had more marks from the rubber bullets and she was protesting peacefully.
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There was this lady talking to reporters. She had a swelling on her face from rubber bullets and her eyes and around eyes were obviously irritated by the Pepper. She said she had more marks from the rubber bullets and she was protesting peacefully.
When you protest with a MOB....there are risks involved. She knew the risks. Tough toenails...……...
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Watched it. Other than the claims being repeated yet again (See Logical Fallacies: Begging the question), I did not see a single account of tear gas being fired, rubber bullets being shot, or anyone having the shit beat out of them. I also find it odd to see these three-second video clips, but nowhere can we find the entire video to examine the context. Coincidence?
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21278559/tear-gas-white-house-protest-park-police (https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21278559/tear-gas-white-house-protest-park-police)
Video is Reuters. I can't post it here, but the Presidential storming of St John's church starts at 28:20. You're welcome.
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When you protest with a MOB....there are risks involved.
Not if you're protesting with the "Fine People" of Charlottesville.
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Of course I have.
Just checking. Most of the time when I hear someone cite John 3:16, they stop reading right there, not finishing the chapter. The part about those who hate the light and run from it lest their deeds be exposed is quite poignant.
Now, back to that statement by the Chief of the Park Police. How do you reconcile his statement with the narrative you have been pushing here?
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https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21278559/tear-gas-white-house-protest-park-police (https://www.vox.com/2020/6/2/21278559/tear-gas-white-house-protest-park-police)
Video is Reuters. I can't post it here, but the Presidential storming of St John's church starts at 28:20. You're welcome.
Here's the headline: US Park Police denies using tear gas on peaceful protesters. Evidence suggests otherwise.
Conspicuously absent from the article is that evidence. In fact, the story even concedes the point that CS (a.k.a. tear gas) wasn't used, but then conveniently redefines pepper blasts as "tear gas". Go figure.
So again, no evidence that tear gas was used. No rubber bullets. No one had the shit beat out of them. No one.
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I made it through the first few minutes of the action. I didn't see a single instance of tear gas being employed, rubber bullets being shot, or anyone getting the shit beat out of them. But I did see several frozen bottles of ice being thrown at police. Thanks Reuters for affirming the official Park Police statement
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Here's the headline: US Park Police denies using tear gas on peaceful protesters. Evidence suggests otherwise.
Conspicuously absent from the article is that evidence. In fact, the story even concedes the point that CS (a.k.a. tear gas) wasn't used, but then conveniently redefines pepper blasts as "tear gas". Go figure.
So again, no evidence that tear gas was used. No rubber bullets. No one had the shit beat out of them. No one.
Only the deceiving video perceived through your lying eyes, like the video of the police officer gently subduing George Floyd.
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Only the deceiving video perceived through your lying eyes, like the video of the police officer gently subduing George Floyd.
Again, no evidence that tear gas was used. No rubber bullets. No one had the shit beat out of them. No one.
Show me a rubber bullet. Show me a used tear gas canister. Show me a medical report. Show me anything. Until then, I don't believe the narrative I am being given, even more so now than before since you actually provided a video showing protesters throwing frozen ice bottles at police.
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Basically, you have a lot of white liberals out there who experience feelings (â†key word) of guilt based on a concept called "white privilege". This concept of "white privilege" emanates from empathy for the inferiority of blacks, and the need for a superior (i.e. white) advocate to champion their cause. It is egregiously condescending to the inferior victim class (i.e. blacks) who really don't need white people advocating for them since they are perfectly capable of advocating for themselves.
The effect of this is to enforce a permanent underclass stigma for blacks with a patronizing reminder that black lives matter (as if people didn't already know that).
Of course these same white liberals would be grossly offended if someone was constantly reminding them that white lives matter. But they know deep down that black people are different. So they do the only thing they know how to do to assuage their own feelings of guilt for their superiority - they patronize.
:thumbsup:
Bullseye. Perfectly stated. :beer:
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Again, no evidence that tear gas was used. No rubber bullets. No one had the shit beat out of them. No one.
Show me a rubber bullet. Show me a used tear gas canister. Show me a medical report. Show me anything. Until then, I don't believe the narrative I am being given, even more so now than before since you actually provided a video showing protesters throwing frozen ice bottles at police.
I gave you timestamps for 2 videos but you can't see the smoke. :shrug:
(https://img.particlenews.com/image.php?type=thumbnail_1024x576&url=3oaNma_0PDhc9lw00)
We see two different MAGAs
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I gave you timestamps for 2 videos but you can't see the smoke. :shrug:
(https://img.particlenews.com/image.php?type=thumbnail_1024x576&url=3oaNma_0PDhc9lw00)
We see two different MAGAs
I’m admiring all that peaceful American protesting in all those lovely colors.
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I gave you timestamps for 2 videos but you can't see the smoke
I saw the smoke. which makes sense because the Park Police stated that they used smoke canisters. However, there is zero evidence of tear gas. None. Zip. Nada. Even your story concedes that. which is why it chose to redefine pepper burst as "tear gas".
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The police set parameters for peaceful protests, especially those near and around the White House.
Forget the caches of bottles and bats and poles stored along the park across from the WH and on the avenues leading to it .... when you're told to move back and you don't, you're no longer protesting peacefully.
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OK, to refresh my memory I glanced at the original topic post and can see the troll has played out. Locked.