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Mary Trump issues blistering critique of president as narcissist in new book
By Morgan Chalfant - 07/07/20 03:18 PM EDT
Mary Trump paints a disturbing picture of her uncle, President Trump, in a forthcoming book that accuses him of “cruelty and incompetence†and a penchant for lying and cheating that dates back to when he was a young adult.
In her memoir, obtained by The Hill ahead of next week's publication date, Mary Trump offers a jarring depiction of the Trump family, alleging that the president's father, Fred Trump, was a “high-functioning sociopath†and that his treatment of his children created an “atmosphere of division†and encouraged what she describes as Donald Trump’s narcissistic, arrogant and grandiose behavior.
The book — “Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man,†set for release by publisher Simon & Schuster on July 14 — is based on Mary Trump’s recollections as well as conversations and interviews she has had with family members, friends, neighbors and other associates, and documents and correspondence.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506231-mary-trump-issues-blistering-critique-of-president-as-narcissist-in
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Kellyanne Conway on Trump niece's book: 'I believe family matters should be family matters'
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/506238-kellyanne-conway-on-trump-nieces-book-i-believe-family-matters-should
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Does she really think she is telling us anything we don't already know or suspect.
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OK, he's a narcissist. Now do Obama.
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Does she really think she is telling us anything we don't already know or suspect.
I think the same things about Trump that I thought when he first ran. I didn't much like him then, and I don't much like him now.
But I voted for him four years ago, and I will gladly vote for him this November..
I think her niece is probably a radical leftist who would like to see that "fundamental" change that Biden and Obama have promised.
In short, the end of democracy won't come from her uncle but from people like her.
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I think the same things about Trump that I thought when he first ran. I didn't much like him then, and I don't much like him now.
But I voted for him four years ago, and I will gladly vote for him this November..
I think her niece is probably a radical leftist who would like to see that "fundamental" change that Biden and Obama have promised.
In short, the end of democracy won't come from her uncle but from people like her.
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AND.....only shy, low self esteem people run for ANY OFFICE. ALL ARE RETIRING WALL FLOWERS. LOL.
HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL DEMON-RATS? PELOSI, SCHUMER, NADLER, SHIFF, MAD MAXINE, SHEILA LEE, FEDERICA WILSON.. ELIJAH CUMMINGS... yes I know he has passed. Making a point. ALL NARCISSIST'S. OBAMA WAS A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST. POTUS TRUMP....IS NOT.
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"Here, we wrote this book for you. Will you put your name on it and give interviews?" 'Well sure! I get money right?'
I love opinion pieces pushed as fact. Someone said something, it must really be true! Who would take the time to write something down that wasn't true!
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"Here, we wrote this book for you. Will you put your name on it and give interviews?" 'Well sure! I get money right?'
I love opinion pieces pushed as fact. Someone said something, it must really be true! Who would take the time to write something down that wasn't true!
The problem with all tell-all books is that they have plenty of accusations and claims, but little to no proof. All Trump and the White House have to do is deny every accusation and claim. Neither side can prove anything. They really don't need to.
Now after watching Trump over the last four years from my position as a Never Trumper, I am inclined to believe that Trump has some mental health issues and they may be traced to a not-so-great childhood in a home that was less than loving. But like Mary I'm doing an armchair analysis, which, like her book, is not backed up by proof. Mary might have education and experience in psychology, but without a professional examination, testing and evaluation, nobody really knows if those problems exist and if so, what they really are.
Don't intend to buy or read Mary's book, but I'm sue there will be many who will. I'm curious to know whether it will be a best seller or end up on the clearance table at Barnes & Noble in about a week.
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I think the same things about Trump that I thought when he first ran. I didn't much like him then, and I don't much like him now.
But I voted for him four years ago, and I will gladly vote for him this November..
I think her niece is probably a radical leftist who would like to see that "fundamental" change that Biden and Obama have promised.
In short, the end of democracy won't come from her uncle but from people like her.
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Labeling Mary a radical leftist is a brainless slander!
The driver behind her book is how her brother and herself were treated by Uncle Donald.
Fred Trump, in his 90ies was afflicted by Alzheimer's during his last 8 years of life.
Mary's lawyer informed her that she and her sibling would be treated unequally/unfairly
because they would not receive their dead father, Fred Jr's share.
This was because Donald had manipulated Fred Sr. to alter his Will using undue influence
on him as Fred Sr. suffered from advanced Dementia.
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"Here, we wrote this book for you. Will you put your name on it and give interviews?" 'Well sure! I get money right?'
I love opinion pieces pushed as fact. Someone said something, it must really be true! Who would take the time to write something down that wasn't true!
I agree, and an ignorant thing to do by Mary. :thumbsup: I can see why her grandfather, left her alcoholic dad out of the will. TRUMPS still gave them money. NOT ENOUGH. This part of the family have always been parasites on the rest of the TRUMPS. FRED..JR. was an alcoholic and could not provide for his family. Good money after bad. WHEN, do you cut off an addict?
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Ok, we ALL have family stuff. I will confess. I played doctor at age 5, with my 7 year old brother and my UNCLE, who was 9 at the time. Both were older than me and should have known better, but they wanted to ''see'. Most of us have done this, as kids. What else? All we need to do is look at our own family's. NO ONE would appreciate all the family's dirt, put out there. BTW...my brother did end up being a DOCTOR! lol
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I think the same things about Trump that I thought when he first ran. I didn't much like him then, and I don't much like him now.
But I voted for him four years ago, and I will gladly vote for him this November..
Ditto. We knew he was a narcissist and an incredible self-promoter back then, and I had to hold my nose to vote for him in 2016 (only because I hated Hillary so much). I still think he's insufferable most of the time, but would I rather have him as president than the brain-damaged Joe and whomever is his VP running mate (who would be the actual president if he won)? You betcha.
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Trump's Cultists went into spasms of rage when Mary Trump recently published, labeling her;
a lesbian, an alcoholic, a grifter, fat & ugly, a radical lefty, beyond stupid; among other niceties.
Their common theme was that any faults/flaws among Clan Trump was because the females
couldn't keep up w/the males and therefore resented playing second and last fiddle.
Hmm......... interesting, so let's explore this, examining Grandfather Friedrich Drumpft (Trump).
Born in Bavaria, he was a teen when Wilhelm 1 of Prussia, along w/Prince Otto Von Bismarck,
both of the House of Hohenzollern, unified Germany in 1871, following the Franco-Prussian War.
At the time, the Monarchy decreed mandatory conscription for all able bodied males for 3 years, as
both an integrating as well as a unifying force in a Germany which was the newest nation in Europe.
Then in 1885, as his conscription day a approached, Grand Pa Trump decided to up-sticks, leaving
a note on his pillow, boarding a vessel for NYC and then training across to the Pacific No.West.
There he got himself into the entertainment and lodging business for the mining types seeking
Gold & Silver in California and later in the Canadian Yukon.
His skills included managing gambling casinos, saloons, brothels & bordellos as well as organizing prostitution rings. His success made him wealthy so he decided to return to Bavaria in 1905
w/his then wife. Shortly after arriving, the Crown issued a Royal Decree labeling him a coward and
draft-dodger, ordering him to leave Germany permanently within weeks.
He complied to avoid lengthy prison and returned to NYC where his son Fred was born later that year. The years rolled by, then in 1918, he died from the Spanish Influenza epidemic. What was his legacy?
Anyone who cannot see his imprint on the attitudes and behaviors of his son Fred as well as, more strongly, on his grand-son Donald is dishonest as well as delusional.
All of this information is sourced from the Encyclopedia Britannica.
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Trump's Cultists went into spasms of rage when Mary Trump recently published, labeling her;
a lesbian, an alcoholic, a grifter, fat & ugly, a radical lefty, beyond stupid; among other niceties.
Their common theme was that any faults/flaws among Clan Trump was because the females
couldn't keep up w/the males and therefore resented playing second and last fiddle.
Hmm......... interesting, so let's explore this, examining Grandfather Friedrich Drumpft (Trump).
Born in Bavaria, he was a teen when Wilhelm 1 of Prussia, along w/Prince Otto Von Bismarck,
both of the House of Hohenzollern, unified Germany in 1871, following the Franco-Prussian War.
At the time, the Monarchy decreed mandatory conscription for all able bodied males for 3 years, as
both an integrating as well as a unifying force in a Germany which was the newest nation in Europe.
Then in 1885, as his conscription day a approached, Grand Pa Trump decided to up-sticks, leaving
a note on his pillow, boarding a vessel for NYC and then training across to the Pacific No.West.
There he got himself into the entertainment and lodging business for the mining types seeking
Gold & Silver in California and later in the Canadian Yukon.
His skills included managing gambling casinos, saloons, brothels & bordellos as well as organizing prostitution rings. His success made him wealthy so he decided to return to Bavaria in 1905
w/his then wife. Shortly after arriving, the Crown issued a Royal Decree labeling him a coward and
draft-dodger, ordering him to leave Germany permanently within weeks.
He complied to avoid lengthy prison and returned to NYC where his son Fred was born later that year. The years rolled by, then in 1918, he died from the Spanish Influenza epidemic. What was his legacy?
Anyone who cannot see his imprint on the attitudes and behaviors of his son Fred as well as, more strongly, on his grand-son Donald is dishonest as well as delusional.
All of this information is sourced from the Encyclopedia Britannica.
Perhaps in the future you might want to provide a link. A similar scenario is true with the Bush family; Prescott Bush in particular who was H.W. Bush's father and "W"'s grandpappy. The family gained wealth because of the dealings of Prescott and holding gold for the Nazi's and dealings in Germany. Nothing was ever proven, however (supposedly). Because one member of the family has a propensity to corruptness doesn't mean they all do; learned behavior perhaps, but doesn't necessarily hold true for all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
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Perhaps in the future you might want to provide a link. A similar scenario is true with the Bush family; Prescott Bush in particular who was H.W. Bush's father and "W"'s grandpappy. The family gained wealth because of the dealings of Prescott and holding gold for the Nazi's and dealings in Germany. Nothing was ever proven, however (supposedly). Because one member of the family has a propensity to corruptness doesn't mean they all do; learned behavior perhaps, but doesn't necessarily hold true for all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
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Link was in the last sentence, the Encyclopedia Britannica!!!!
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Trump's Cultists went into spasms of rage when Mary Trump recently published, labeling her; a lesbian, an alcoholic, a grifter, fat & ugly, a radical lefty, beyond stupid; among other niceties.
Mary outed herself @Absalom In interviews she blamed her family's "homophobia" (especially grandma's) for why she decided not to "come out" to her family. If your dad drank himself to death and you're drinking beer alone by the six pack, there *is* a problem. She *is* overweight and homely. Mary is proud of her support and vote for Hillary Clinton and supports and will vote for Joe Biden, making her a *self-proclaimed* radical lefty. A 55 year old single woman making a needed buck by trashing her wealthy family *is* a grifter. Making a couple of million new friends knowing they will discard you in 15 minutes *is* stupid -- and sad.
But by all means, continue to trash the President's supporters.
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So what if Trump is a narcissistic, Everyone knows that.
Prefer a narcissist any day, to a Green Deal pushing POS, who IMO is likely a pedophile.
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So what if Trump is a narcissistic, Everyone knows that.
Prefer a narcissist any day, to a Green Deal pushing POS, who IMO is likely a pedophile.
IMO, neither candidate is an improvement over the other. But we all have the right to make our own choice. So carry on. :beer:
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IMO, neither candidate is an improvement over the other. But we all have the right to make our own choice. So carry on. :beer:
Yes, Trump isn't ideal, but equating him down to Biden's level is probably not the best opinion to have at a conservative forum. A Biden presidency hasterns the destruction of this country, and it sounds like you are either okay with that, or are short on solutions or alternatives.
Hope you have your Asbestos Suit on.
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She was on Rachel Maddow this weekend, I don’t know how it went, but I’m sure the video is out there somewhere.
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Yes, Trump isn't ideal, but equating him down to Biden's level is probably not the best opinion to have at a conservative forum. A Biden presidency hastens the destruction of this country, and it sounds like you are either okay with that, or are short on solutions or alternatives.
Hope you have your Asbestos Suit on.
Well, I've been called every name in the Trump supporter handbook, including, but not limited to, traitor, enemy of the state and hater. Plus, it seems the Trump supporter handbook also has a list of who or what to blame should Trump lose. Because I won't vote for him, I'm somewhere on that list.
After being vilified a lot worse on Free Republic and driven away from that site, I've learned not to care what other people think of my voting choices. Now, if people object, it's their problem, not mine, and they can kiss my fat rear end. As long as I have the right to choose, I will do so.
I am well aware that Biden is a lousy choice and I know, especially if the Democrats gain both houses of congress, they will ram through all kinds of BS legislation that will destroy us all. Although Biden has been portrayed as a moderate or centrist, if elected president, he will sign off on all of it. He will have to because the radicals have already taken over the party and any member who doesn't toe the party line will be out of a job. On the campaign trail, Biden has already embraced the radical agenda whether he approves of it or not.
but here's the thing -- even if Trump is re-elected -- if the Republicans lose both houses of congress (a very real possibility), Trump will not be able to "save" this country even if he is so inclined. Trump has already exhibited an unwillingness to veto any legislation (except for maybe one or two bills). But if there is a veto-proof majority in the house, any veto he might make will be overridden. Even if he was so inclined to be America's savior, as so many of his supporters see him, he won't be saving anyone.
I was going to skip the election in November entirely, but there is a congressional race locally and that is the race I'm going to vote in. The incumbent Democrat is likely to win; his Republican challenger is an unknown lightweight with apparently not much of a campaign (have yet to see any campaign ads from him). But I have to at least make an effort to prevent that veto-proof majority in the house, even though I am not likely to succeed.
So while we are all focused on the presidential race, let us not forget about the congressional races and later, the senate race. If both houses fall to the Democrats, it won't matter who occupies the Oval Office. This country will be screwed.
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Mary Trump revealed grandmother’s homophobic remark discouraged her from coming out to family
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https://watermarkonline.com/2020/07/17/mary-trump-revealed-grandmothers-homophobic-remark-discouraged-her-from-coming-out-to-family/
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Well, I've been called every name in the Trump supporter handbook, including, but not limited to, traitor, enemy of the state and hater. Plus, it seems the Trump supporter handbook also has a list of who or what to blame should Trump lose. Because I won't vote for him, I'm somewhere on that list.
After being vilified a lot worse on Free Republic and driven away from that site, I've learned not to care what other people think of my voting choices. Now, if people object, it's their problem, not mine, and they can kiss my fat rear end. As long as I have the right to choose, I will do so.
I am well aware that Biden is a lousy choice and I know, especially if the Democrats gain both houses of congress, they will ram through all kinds of BS legislation that will destroy us all. Although Biden has been portrayed as a moderate or centrist, if elected president, he will sign off on all of it. He will have to because the radicals have already taken over the party and any member who doesn't toe the party line will be out of a job. On the campaign trail, Biden has already embraced the radical agenda whether he approves of it or not.
but here's the thing -- even if Trump is re-elected -- if the Republicans lose both houses of congress (a very real possibility), Trump will not be able to "save" this country even if he is so inclined. Trump has already exhibited an unwillingness to veto any legislation (except for maybe one or two bills). But if there is a veto-proof majority in the house, any veto he might make will be overridden. Even if he was so inclined to be America's savior, as so many of his supporters see him, he won't be saving anyone.
I was going to skip the election in November entirely, but there is a congressional race locally and that is the race I'm going to vote in. The incumbent Democrat is likely to win; his Republican challenger is an unknown lightweight with apparently not much of a campaign (have yet to see any campaign ads from him). But I have to at least make an effort to prevent that veto-proof majority in the house, even though I am not likely to succeed.
So while we are all focused on the presidential race, let us not forget about the congressional races and later, the senate race. If both houses fall to the Democrats, it won't matter who occupies the Oval Office. This country will be screwed.
Have you been called a leftist-enabler yet? 888mouth :whistle: 333cleo
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Have you been called a leftist-enabler yet? 888mouth :whistle: 333cleo
No. I have been accused of being a closet Democrat and a secret Biden supporter (hence, the traitor and enemy of the state pejoratives), but I guess "leftist-enabler" will be next. LOL
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Link was in the last sentence, the Encyclopedia Britannica!!!!
No, @Absalom, there is no link in your post. You gave the source, Encyclopedia Britannica, but apparently forgot to include the link. Been there, done that, but didn't/don't snark at people calling out my mistakes.
That pointed out, Friedrich Trump (changed his name to Frederick when he came to the US, using his German name to ease distinction) was an unpleasant immoral person prior to settling down and beginning a family in NYC. Frederick Christ Trump was just 12 when Friederich died, so his mother Elisabeth probably had as much or more influence in Fred Sr.'s upbringing as Friederich, especially since she took over managing her late husband's real estate business and helped Fred Sr. start his own home construction business. But nice try, ridiculously smearing DJT with the 20-something doings of a grandfather who died some 28 years before DJT was born. If you're curious, the info came from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump .
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Yes, Trump isn't ideal, but equating him down to Biden's level is probably not the best opinion to have at a conservative forum. A Biden presidency hasterns the destruction of this country, and it sounds like you are either okay with that, or are short on solutions or alternatives.
Hope you have your Asbestos Suit on.
You might as well have voted for Bernie, if you vote for Biden. Not a dime's worth of difference between the two.
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You might as well have voted for Bernie, if you vote for Biden. Not a dime's worth of difference between the two.
I would never vote for a DemocRat and I don't even want to know anyone that would. Am I prejudiced at this point? You're damned straight. This really is war. It's just that most people haven't yet figured that out yet.
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Ok, we ALL have family stuff. I will confess. I played doctor at age 5, with my 7 year old brother and my UNCLE, who was 9 at the time. Both were older than me and should have known better, but they wanted to ''see'. Most of us have done this, as kids. What else? All we need to do is look at our own family's. NO ONE would appreciate all the family's dirt, put out there. BTW...my brother did end up being a DOCTOR! lol
@LegalAmerican
I was a Psychological Examiner at a Montessori Preschool. These students were 3-5 years old. I went to get one of the students who had not have the psychological evaluation. According to the schedule the child was in the gym.
Yes, the student was sitting on the floor with two others and they were playing "doctor", with a doctor play set, examining one who had removed all his clothes. I did not approach them, but went to get their teacher, as she needed to deal with this since they were her students. She went there and I watched her gently re-clothe the student while explaining to them the difference between the play set and a doctor's office and examination.
An aside: I did psychologically test each new child who came there. One day, I began with a three yr old, had some test items in front of the child, and he pick up some and threw them at me. I laughed, thinking this kid must have a high IQ to assert himself like that in front of an adult.
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Mary Trump issues blistering critique of president as narcissist in new book
That was supposed to be news and come as a surprise?
Hell,that was THE PRIME reason *I* decided to vote for him. He CAN'T be bought off/bribed to back down from his promises because there is NOTHING in the world more important to him than his own opinion of himself,and what he wants more than anything else in the world,is to go down in the history books as the "Greatest President America has ever seen".
No,it is NOT likely he is going to be rated ahead of Washington or Jefferson,but he has a solid shot of being the best president since them.
After all,look at what he has accomplished already,with the entire DNC,maybe half the RNC,and ALL the national media outlets working against him.
And if he wins re-election after all this concentrated effort,it is the end of the Dim Party. The globalists are going to have to start all over by trying to take over whatever party comes forward to replace them,and of course,trying to bribe/buy favors with the RINO's.
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Trump's Cultists went into spasms of rage when Mary Trump recently published, labeling her;
a lesbian, an alcoholic, a grifter, fat & ugly, a radical lefty, beyond stupid; among other niceties.
Their common theme was that any faults/flaws among Clan Trump was because the females
couldn't keep up w/the males and therefore resented playing second and last fiddle.
Hmm......... interesting, so let's explore this, examining Grandfather Friedrich Drumpft (Trump).
Born in Bavaria, he was a teen when Wilhelm 1 of Prussia, along w/Prince Otto Von Bismarck,
both of the House of Hohenzollern, unified Germany in 1871, following the Franco-Prussian War.
At the time, the Monarchy decreed mandatory conscription for all able bodied males for 3 years, as
both an integrating as well as a unifying force in a Germany which was the newest nation in Europe.
Then in 1885, as his conscription day a approached, Grand Pa Trump decided to up-sticks, leaving
a note on his pillow, boarding a vessel for NYC and then training across to the Pacific No.West.
There he got himself into the entertainment and lodging business for the mining types seeking
Gold & Silver in California and later in the Canadian Yukon.
His skills included managing gambling casinos, saloons, brothels & bordellos as well as organizing prostitution rings. His success made him wealthy so he decided to return to Bavaria in 1905
w/his then wife. Shortly after arriving, the Crown issued a Royal Decree labeling him a coward and
draft-dodger, ordering him to leave Germany permanently within weeks.
He complied to avoid lengthy prison and returned to NYC where his son Fred was born later that year. The years rolled by, then in 1918, he died from the Spanish Influenza epidemic. What was his legacy?
Anyone who cannot see his imprint on the attitudes and behaviors of his son Fred as well as, more strongly, on his grand-son Donald is dishonest as well as delusional.
All of this information is sourced from the Encyclopedia Britannica.
@Absalom
We get it. Your widdle fweelings wuz hurted. Go somewhere else for your pity party. May I suggest DU?
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Mary outed herself @Absalom In interviews she blamed her family's "homophobia" (especially grandma's) for why she decided not to "come out" to her family. If your dad drank himself to death and you're drinking beer alone by the six pack, there *is* a problem. She *is* overweight and homely. Mary is proud of her support and vote for Hillary Clinton and supports and will vote for Joe Biden, making her a *self-proclaimed* radical lefty. A 55 year old single woman making a needed buck by trashing her wealthy family *is* a grifter. Making a couple of million new friends knowing they will discard you in 15 minutes *is* stupid -- and sad.
But by all means, continue to trash the President's supporters.
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Trump's Cultists went into spasms................(no point in repeating myself.)
They have no need of assistance in trashing themselves!!!
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Mary outed herself @Absalom In interviews she blamed her family's "homophobia" (especially grandma's) for why she decided not to "come out" to her family. If your dad drank himself to death and you're drinking beer alone by the six pack, there *is* a problem. She *is* overweight and homely. Mary is proud of her support and vote for Hillary Clinton and supports and will vote for Joe Biden, making her a *self-proclaimed* radical lefty. A 55 year old single woman making a needed buck by trashing her wealthy family *is* a grifter. Making a couple of million new friends knowing they will discard you in 15 minutes *is* stupid -- and sad.
But by all means, continue to trash the President's supporters.
Every family has some 'stuff'. POTUS, was 19 years old when, Mary was born. She does not know her Uncle. When I first saw her, I thought, lesbian. So now it is confirmed? Gay people in MY EXPERIENCE are the most vicious people. She claims POTUS is vindictive, yet, SHE WRITES THIS PACK OF LIES? HEAL THYSELF MARY. WWW.MAGAPILL.COM (http://WWW.MAGAPILL.COM)
MOST, DISLIKE OF TRUMP, HAS TO DO WITH TRUMP ENVY. Beta males, can't stand a strong ALPHA male. That male ego.
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Can we call her 'blisters'?
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No. I have been accused of being a closet Democrat and a secret Biden supporter (hence, the traitor and enemy of the state pejoratives), but I guess "leftist-enabler" will be next. LOL
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Applewood, you already know "Argument via Insult" is the weapon of the Fan Club;
as it's all they have, akin to a Game Plan of handing off to the Fullback going
off tackle for three downs and then punting; for the entire 90 minutes!!!
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Applewood, you already know "Argument via Insult" is the weapon of the Fan Club;
as it's all they have, akin to a Game Plan of handing off to the Fullback going
off tackle for three downs and then punting; for the entire 90 minutes!!!
This is self satire right?
I am hardly part of that fan club, but IMO it is ultra NT clan that are the analogous 3 downs and punt team. Because all you guys are doing are complaining about Trump, but are offering ZERO as far as alternatives or solutions.
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Labeling Mary a radical leftist is a brainless slander!
The driver behind her book is how her brother and herself were treated by Uncle Donald.
Fred Trump, in his 90ies was afflicted by Alzheimer's during his last 8 years of life.
Mary's lawyer informed her that she and her sibling would be treated unequally/unfairly
because they would not receive their dead father, Fred Jr's share.
This was because Donald had manipulated Fred Sr. to alter his Will using undue influence
on him as Fred Sr. suffered from advanced Dementia.
WRONG. But like all LEFTS you have no facts. You have fiction. FRED SR. wanted his parasitic, alcoholic son, who had received much money during his lifetime and was being supported by the rest of the TRUMPS, not in the will. FRED jr. and his family received their money AHEAD OF TIME. FRED jr..was not supporting his own family. He died of alcoholism. You have zero proof DONALD, did anything. POTUS SISTER....MARY, IS A JUDGE.
THIS JUDGE, MAY HAVE INTERVENED as the family was probably sick of having to pay for everything for this FRED JR.'S FAMILY. How long to do support an ADDICT? BTW...even that FRED jr, was not in the will, TRUMP FAMILY STILL GAVE THEM MONEY. I don't know how much was given, anyway, and lesbian Mary would not say anything positive or correct about this family stuff, esp., inheritance. Very ungrateful, vindictive lesbian Mary.
I read somewhere you posted POTUS was a "draft dodger"? LIE. I have a copy of his SELECTIVE SERVICE card. "dodgers' went to CANADA, he did NOT. HIS # was 580. For 3 years he was eligible for the draft, being A-1 twice, and Y-1 once. The DRAFT ended in 300#'s. A veteran said this. POTUS IS A CAPTAIN. His 4 years at military school, being mentored by retired general, is the same as ROTC. YOU HAVE TRUMP ENVY.
Bill Clinton, JOE BIDEN, Bernie Sanders, Mike Bloomberg, obama did not SERVE either! Issues with the first 4, I mentioned, who DID NOT SERVE, ALL ABOUT THE SAME AGE. ISSUES with Joe Biden? ISSUES WITH BIDEN DODGER?
Lesbian Mary & her family received their share of the inheritance as they LIVED. TRUMPS, SUPPORTED THE WHOLE FRED JR. FAMILY, their whole existence. They just RECEIVED their inheritance, EARLY, IN PIECES. Then wanted MORE. They were given, more, even that they were not in the will...after Fred SR. passing. STILL NOT ENOUGH. They had their share of the pie, early, then wanted more. Greedy, ungrateful, nasty lesbian Mary.
Never enough, never happy, guess who that is? THE, NOT RIGHT.
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@LegalAmerican Stop calling Briefers "leftists" (or variations thereof).
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This is self satire right?
I am hardly part of that fan club, but IMO it is ultra NT clan that are the analogous 3 downs and punt team. Because all you guys are doing are complaining about Trump, but are offering ZERO as far as alternatives or solutions.
I wish I had an alternative to Trump and Biden, but other than staying home, skipping the presidential race entirely or writing in my best friend's cat's name, there are none. I refuse to vote for one over the other because I don't think either is the right man for the presidency. And I definitely refuse to vote for one over the other because someone tells me I have to.
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Friedrich Trump (changed his name to Frederick when he came to the US, using his German name to ease distinction) was an unpleasant immoral person prior to settling down and beginning a family in NYC. Frederick Christ Trump was just 12 when Friederich died, so his mother Elisabeth probably had as much or more influence in Fred Sr.'s upbringing as Friederich, especially since she took over managing her late husband's real estate business and helped Fred Sr. start his own home construction business. But nice try, ridiculously smearing DJT with the 20-something doings of a grandfather who died some 28 years before DJT was born. .
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Was hardly 'ridiculously smearing' Donald Trump as he's his own worst enemy and fully responsible
for who he is and how he behaves.
You surely know this but anyway a thought.
Since Eden, the Natural Law has embraced the Family Unit as the foundation & microcosm of society.
As such, impulses and sentiments that permit the Family to survive must be encouraged.
'YOU CAN NOT KILL', is far more a Rule than a Commandment, as 'YOU CAN KILL', extinguishes Man.
Such conduct is the necessary ingredient from one generation to the next in order for Man to sustain himself and for the nation/state to develop and thrive.
Donald is the grandson of Friedrich and shares his legacy/heritage for better or for worse,
regardless of age, geography or religion; as attitudes and behaviors are handed down by
the Laws of Heredity known to the Soul.
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@LegalAmerican Stop calling Briefers "leftists" (or variations thereof).
Well. what may I call the NOT RIGHT on here? EVEN news sources say, LEFT OR RIGHT. I think you mean my interpretation of someone who exhibits all LEFTS TRAITS.. should NOT be called out, AS THAT. I can still use the word LEFT...as long as it is NOT, ABOUT ANY TBR'ER ON HERE? What do I call LEFTS ON HERE? GIVE ME AN ACCEPTABLE NAME TO IDENTIFY ALL THE ....LEFTS, WITH? They ARE, what they are. We rights get called names, all the time, too. I pointed some out to you, but when it is against me, it is ok by you. GIVE ME A TERM, I MAY USE AGAINST ALL THE LEFTS, WHO, WHO ARE MOSTLY LIARS ON HERE. LIKE about POTUS BEING A DRAFT DODGER. 'HE' REPORTED ME FOR TELLING THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT POTUS AND DRAFT ISSUE. I asked, how does he feel about THE MANY people , like Bill Clinton, JOE BIDEN....Bernie Sanders, MIKE BLOOMBERG, and Obama not serving either. Joe Biden...did not serve either, and is running for president. NO ISSUE WITH JOE? ONLY TRUMP?
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People still believe everything written about TRUMPS. LOL. The name drumpt...is a GUESS..that it might be a TRUMP. The word means DRUM. They looked at 1600's and MADE A GUESS...they could be the same lineage. NO PROOF. A GUESS. Yet, it is repeated over & over again. A GUESS, A THEORY....now is 'fact.
No one wants to be involved in a war. What is the point of going back to GRANDFATHER TRUMP, trying to smear TRUMPS, GOING BACK TO 1800'S? Those were different times. If women lost their husband, most had to go into prostitution to survive. There were hardly any fields, a woman could get into, to survive. Going BACK in time is also a typical trait.....
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This is ok? I didn't call Mary that, although it is true.
Quote from: Absalom on July 09, 2020, 06:28:43 PM
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Labeling Mary a radical leftist is a brainless slander!
The driver behind her book is how her brother and herself were treated by Uncle Donald.
Fred Trump, in his 90ies was afflicted by Alzheimer's during his last 8 years of life.
Mary's lawyer informed her that she and her sibling would be treated unequally/unfairly
because they would not receive their dead father, Fred Jr's share.
This was because Donald had manipulated Fred Sr. to alter his Will using undue influence
on him as Fred Sr. suffered from advanced Dementia.
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No, @Absalom, there is no link in your post. You gave the source, Encyclopedia Britannica, but apparently forgot to include the link. Been there, done that, but didn't/don't snark at people calling out my mistakes.
That pointed out, Friedrich Trump (changed his name to Frederick when he came to the US, using his German name to ease distinction) was an unpleasant immoral person prior to settling down and beginning a family in NYC. Frederick Christ Trump was just 12 when Friederich died, so his mother Elisabeth probably had as much or more influence in Fred Sr.'s upbringing as Friederich, especially since she took over managing her late husband's real estate business and helped Fred Sr. start his own home construction business. But nice try, ridiculously smearing DJT with the 20-something doings of a grandfather who died some 28 years before DJT was born. If you're curious, the info came from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump .
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Link was in the last sentence, the Encyclopedia Britannica!!!!
You referenced the Encyclopedia Britannica, but you did not provide a link. Quite a difference. I wasn't trying to insult or be critical I was merely pointing out that providing a link to back up what you are posting would be helpful.
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Labeling Mary a radical leftist is a brainless slander!
The driver behind her book is how her brother and herself were treated by Uncle Donald.
Fred Trump, in his 90ies was afflicted by Alzheimer's during his last 8 years of life.
Mary's lawyer informed her that she and her sibling would be treated unequally/unfairly
because they would not receive their dead father, Fred Jr's share.
This was because Donald had manipulated Fred Sr. to alter his Will using undue influence
on him as Fred Sr. suffered from advanced Dementia.
@Absalom
Maybe some truth to that, but OTOH, she sold out for a $ to exploit the family. S & S is famous for stretching the truth or sensationalizing the matter at hand for book sales and ranking. But I will go on limb and venture probably more than half of this trash are falsehoods, and innuendo that publishers ghost wrote, or prompted her to say.
In fact, I have head reports that she barely know DJT. So how is she such an expert except to extrapolate her psychoanalysis, except to please her publisher masters. Good thing she wasn't paid in biblical currency, because it work out to something to 30 Sheckels.
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Well. what may I call the NOT RIGHT on here?
"Not Right" would be more defensible than "Leftist."
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WRONG. But like all LEFTS you have no facts. You have fiction. FRED SR. wanted his parasitic, alcoholic son, who had received much money during his lifetime and was being supported by the rest of the TRUMPS, not in the will. FRED jr. and his family received their money AHEAD OF TIME. FRED jr..was not supporting his own family. He died of alcoholism. You have zero proof DONALD, did anything. POTUS SISTER....MARY, IS A JUDGE.
THIS JUDGE, MAY HAVE INTERVENED as the family was probably sick of having to pay for everything for this FRED JR.'S FAMILY. How long to do support an ADDICT? BTW...even that FRED jr, was not in the will, TRUMP FAMILY STILL GAVE THEM MONEY. I don't know how much was given, anyway, and lesbian Mary would not say anything positive or correct about this family stuff, esp., inheritance. Very ungrateful, vindictive lesbian Mary.
I read somewhere you posted POTUS was a "draft dodger"? LIE. I have a copy of his SELECTIVE SERVICE card. "dodgers' went to CANADA, he did NOT. HIS # was 580. For 3 years he was eligible for the draft, being A-1 twice, and Y-1 once. The DRAFT ended in 300#'s. A veteran said this. POTUS IS A CAPTAIN. His 4 years at military school, being mentored by retired general, is the same as ROTC. YOU HAVE TRUMP ENVY.
Bill Clinton, JOE BIDEN, Bernie Sanders, Mike Bloomberg, obama did not SERVE either! Issues with the first 4, I mentioned, who DID NOT SERVE, ALL ABOUT THE SAME AGE. ISSUES with Joe Biden? ISSUES WITH BIDEN DODGER?
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Raging rants belong in the trash where they came from, yet a comment on
Trump's draft-dodging cowardice, is appropriate.
While in College he received 4 legitimate deferments for schooling.
Then in 1968, despite a college career of baseball, football, golf and squash, he
was diagnosed w/"bone spurs" giving him a 1-Y Medical Deferment, but how?
Fred Trump had a tenant who was a Podiatrist, Dr Larry Braunstein whose
Practice was in Jamaica, blocks from the Trump Family Estate.
His daughter, Elysa (later also a Podiatrist) was her father's office mgr. at the time
and stated after his death that her father and Fred, always took care of each other,
also that her father often said that he diagnosed Donald w/bone spurs as a favor to Fred.
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Long past time you got real, as your coarse and vulgar slanders
are beyond ignorant and incoherent, informing no one.
Noise making is the behavior of toddlers!!!
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@Absalom
Maybe some truth to that, but OTOH, she sold out for a $ to exploit the family. S & S is famous for stretching the truth or sensationalizing the matter at hand for book sales and ranking. But I will go on limb and venture probably more than half of this trash are falsehoods, and innuendo that publishers ghost wrote, or prompted her to say.
In fact, I have head reports that she barely know DJT. So how is she such an expert except to extrapolate her psychoanalysis, except to please her publisher masters. Good thing she wasn't paid in biblical currency, because it work out to something to 30 Sheckels.
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Catfish,
Short of putting the family members thru a lie-detector test,
w/the questions from prosecutors, I cannot "prove" true from false.
The words I quoted came from the testimony of an attorney during
a probate hearing very long ago.
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"Not Right" would be more defensible than "Leftist."
Ok, "NOT RIGHT"....IT IS. Thank you.
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I wish I had an alternative to Trump and Biden, but other than staying home, skipping the presidential race entirely or writing in my best friend's cat's name, there are none. I refuse to vote for one over the other because I don't think either is the right man for the presidency. And I definitely refuse to vote for one over the other because someone tells me I have to.
@Applewood
Then you have nothing of value to offer.
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@Applewood
Then you have nothing of value to offer.
@sneakypete
And neither do Trump nor Biden, which is why I won't vote for either.
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@sneakypete
And neither do Trump nor Biden, which is why I won't vote for either.
@Applewood
That's right,because it is all about YOU,right?
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@Applewood
That's right,because it is all about YOU,right?
@sneakypete
No, it's about who would be the best president to lead all of us -- who is best for America. Again, neither Trump nor Biden fit the bill, IMHO.
Now be nice or Mod 3 will be smacking both of us around.
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@sneakypete
No, it's about who would be the best president to lead all of us -- who is best for America.
Again, neither Trump nor Biden fit the bill, IMHO.
Now be nice or Mod 3 will be smacking both of us around.
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Applewood, consider this.
In 1800, Thomas Jefferson contested the Presidency w/John Adams.
In 2020, Buffoon Trump will contest the Presidency w/clown Bi-dodo.
Yet the usual cultists insist "We are the greatest"!!!
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@sneakypete
And neither do Trump nor Biden, which is why I won't vote for either.
Trump is not my ideal either, but have you ever heard the phrase "half a loaf is better than none"? With Biden not only will you get no bread, you will be delivered a leftist poison pill.
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It's funny... but.... that smiley's expression fits how I'm feeling about 90% of the time these days. I may have to enroll in some Anger Management before November. Something's gotta/gonna give. 9999hair out0000
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Mary's incessant, ridiculing downgrading of Donald's business successes is the dutiful love of a daughter for a deceased father — she seeks a victory for Fred Jr. in the fierce sibling rivalry with younger brother Donald that ever eluded Fred Jr. in life. Donald moved into the limelight of Fred Sr.'s favor that Fred Jr. angrily abandoned and repeatedly failed to win back. This battle protects her from disappointment and anger toward a father who failed her miserably, as she herself carefully documents. Donald, along with his entire family, is a lightning rod for raging emotions. This book could rightly be dedicated "For Dad."
Given Mary Trump's penchant for psychological diagnoses (Fred Sr. and Donald are both "narcissistic" and "sociopaths"), that clinical lens is absent toward her parents. "Dad had clearly shared in the wealth early in his life, but he had had nothing left to show for it by the time he was thirty. I have no idea what happened to his money."
At age two and a half, Mary watched in horror as her taunting father threatened to kill her sobbing mother with the rifle he was leveling at her. Despite her mother's phobia, he brought home a pet boa constrictor and kept it in the apartment. "Domestic abuse" is absent from Mary's consideration.
Or how about the concept of "enabler" for her mother? Fred Jr. was a deteriorating, recalcitrant alcoholic (his recurrent treatments paid for by Fred Sr.): "My father was still in the hospital [lobar pneumonia] on ... their fifth wedding anniversary. Undeterred by his poor health and worsening alcoholism, my mother sneaked a bottle of champagne and a couple of glasses into his room. Regardless of what was happening around them or what state her husband was in, they were determined to celebrate." Celebrate!
Although Mary Trump spent years attending family functions, playing at the Trump "house" as a young child; was sent to private boarding schools and high-end summer camps; and was included in endless special family celebrations dinners, there is rarely a hint of gratitude, pleasure, or enjoyment. These occasions have become her bêtes noires, choice opportunities to demonstrate Trump family dysfunction and personal slights. Yet she continued to participate as a teenager and young adult, when, if she was so displeased, she could have stopped.
Repeatedly she complains of not receiving the financial bounty of the Trumps. She even bemoaned the absence of her father's Jaguar, Mustang, fishing boats, and airplanes. For a woman purportedly writing a book devoid of financial considerations, she has penned a book riddled with them.
More:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/mary_trump_abusing_psychology_to_abuse_her_uncle.html (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/mary_trump_abusing_psychology_to_abuse_her_uncle.html)
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Applewood, consider this.
In 1800, Thomas Jefferson contested the Presidency w/John Adams.
In 2020, Buffoon Trump will contest the Presidency w/clown Bi-dodo.
Yet the usual cultists insist "We are the greatest"!!!
That may be one of the most ridiculous things you've insulted the intelligence of Briefers with this year. That's not a minor feat. Reading that has actually reduced the aggregate intelligence of the readers of this thread.
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Yet the usual cultists insist "We are the greatest"!!!
@Absalom, a TBR member has been asked to refrain from labeling other TBR members "leftists". Please refrain from labeling other TBR members "cultists". tri22
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@Absalom, a TBR member has been asked to refrain from labeling other TBR members "leftists". Please refrain from labeling other TBR members "cultists". tri22
@Absalom
Pete is correct. You've been dancing on the edge for some time with your personal insults. This is your warning.
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It's funny... but.... that smiley's expression fits how I'm feeling about 90% of the time these days. I may have to enroll in some Anger Management before November. Something's gotta/gonna give. 9999hair out0000
I think I'm more depressed than angry. That depression started with the complete lockdown back in March., then it got worse with the rioting, then the prospect of two lousy choices in November. Sometimes I just have to shut off the tv and the computer and get away from all this chit for a while. If I don't, I think it will all kill me before the virus does.
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Trump is not my ideal either, but have you ever heard the phrase "half a loaf is better than none"? With Biden not only will you get no bread, you will be delivered a leftist poison pill.
Well, I don't see Trump as even half a loaf, but as I've said all along, we all have the right to make our own choices and while I may disagree with your choice, I will respect your decision.
I just wish some here wouldn't try to beat me up for the choice I've made.
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I think I'm more depressed than angry. That depression started with the complete lockdown back in March., then it got worse with the rioting, then the prospect of two lousy choices in November. Sometimes I just have to shut off the tv and the computer and get away from all this chit for a while. If I don't, I think it will all kill me before the virus does.
I'm depressed, too. While my life's situation is just fine, it hurts to see people so willing to give up their personal freedoms and accept really shoddy justifications for it. People who should be skeptical about the government's motivation are instead attacking fellow conservatives for "putting their lives at risk." Otherwise intelligent people look at the adulterated "new case" data and, knowing it's fudged beyond recognition, still accept it. I watched a Scientist I used to work with do that. I proved to her the data is unusable, and yet she still believes in the mask and closing the country bullshit.
Her: "What can it hurt?"
Me: "You mean besides the breathing problems it causes? How about being willing to wear the 21st Century equivalent of a yellow star on your chest?"
The nation was turned against itself so easily, I don't know if we can ever recover. I was already on my way to hermit status before all this, and I don't see much reason not to go that route.
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@sneakypete
No, it's about who would be the best president to lead all of us -- who is best for America.
@Applewood
That would clearly be me,but I'm not running,so it will also clearly be SOMEONE ELSE.
We have three options. Vote for the Dim candidate,vote for the Republican candidate,or let everyone else decide for us.
I chose to vote for the best possible candidate. You choose to vote for fairy tales by sitting at home and wishing while other people make decisions for you.
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Applewood, consider this.
In 1800, Thomas Jefferson contested the Presidency w/John Adams.
In 2020, Buffoon Trump will contest the Presidency w/clown Bi-dodo.
Yet the usual cultists insist "We are the greatest"!!!
@Absalom
Quit lying. You have no one fooled. You are a Dim that came here to try to sow discord.
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Well, I don't see Trump as even half a load, but as I've said all along, we all have the right to make our own choices and while I may disagree with your choice, I will respect your decision.
I just wish some here wouldn't try to beat me up for the choice I've made.
@Applewood
Well,most of us take a presidential election a little more seriously than a popularity contest.
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@Applewood
Well,most of us take a presidential election a little more seriously than a popularity contest.
@sneakypete
You think I don't? Actually, it seems to me some of his supporters back in 2016 chose Trump based on his popularity. Remember, he used to be on tv? They were more interested in the flashy slogans, the razzle-dazzle of a media star. Now I think many of them are still dazzled by him. They look upon him as a savior -- one who will keep those evil Democrats from destroying America. Or something.
Sorry if you are offended that I don't buy into his schtick.
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@Absalom
Pete is correct. You've been dancing on the edge for some time with your personal insults.
This is your warning.
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@ Mod1, fair enough.
As you're a moderator, I will no longer use the the label cultist.
From me, an observation that is not a complaint.
Since my first day, this individual, Mr. Sneeky, has followed my
daily posts looking for a fight; more than a dozen times.
As I have no interest in him or his needs, I simply close my door.
Perhaps you would make note of this.
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Stop the personal sniping and attacks. Now.
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Enough of this shit. I'm locking this down, and I doubt I will be overcome with any strange desire to open it up again.