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Gateway Pundit
Lucian Wintrich
Feb. 25, 2017
NATIONAL HARBOR, Maryland – Once applauded as “burning man meets the super bowl” for conservatives, CPAC in 2017 is far different. After CPAC made the controversial decision to first invite, and then disinvite, anti-PC conservative firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos, many knew that the atmosphere would be far different. While some of the speakers did include President Trump, Steve Banon, and Mike Pence, those were, by and large, the only highlights of the conference, the schedule of which primarily involved the same slew of #NeverTrump conservatives.
More... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/cpac-2017-terribly-attended-wake-nevertrump-split/
{Johnny Carson voice} I didn't know that.
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Trumpbuttpundit is a good example of why conservatives should never trust the populists.
Pure fake news.
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While some of the speakers did include President Trump, Steve Banon, and Mike Pence, those were, by and large, the only highlights of the conference,
wow. what a moronic anti-conservative thing to say
CPAC should just be abolished.
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wow. what a moronic anti-conservative thing to say
CPAC should just be abolished.
Or held in Russia.
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Are you the voice of Conservatives @geronl ?
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Well, conservative is the first word in CPAC. And since Trump (backed by his adoring mob) has made it pretty clear that he does not particularly care about anything conservative ("we have to fix the nation's problems first") why should it be a surprise that many ideological i.e. principled conservatives didn't show up?
With His Orangeness as prez it should be renamed PPAC (Populist Political Action Group) because whatever he is, Trump ain't no conservative as we have come to know them.
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...Trump ain't no conservative as we have come to know them.
As BS artists?
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Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.
From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.
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Well, conservative is the first word in CPAC. And since Trump (backed by his adoring mob) has made it pretty clear that he does not particularly care about anything conservative ("we have to fix the nation's problems first") why should it be a surprise that many ideological i.e. principled conservatives didn't show up?
With His Orangeness as prez it should be renamed PPAC (Populist Political Action Group) because whatever he is, Trump ain't no conservative as we have come to know them.
Trump is not a neoconservative that is true, most of his policies are traditional conservative policies. As opposed to the neoconservative policies of the Bush1 and Bush2. Conservatives of the past used to be very much America First conservatives and insisted migrates assimilated to our culture, adhered to our values and obeyed our laws. Neocons like Democrats could not care less about that.
If fact neocons are really warmongering Democrats that left the democrat party when the democrat party turned in to the anti-war party back in the post LBJ days.
It is nice to see real traditional conservatives back in control of the GOP.
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Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.
From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.
Well said. President Trump is on probation with many old school conservatives. We respect the victory he achieved but he's still the same bowl o' crazy we all warned about. What scares me is the combustible combination of Trump's temper and the left's compulsion to goad him to act on it. This is just not going to end well.
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Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.
From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.
Getting screwed over by trade cheaters like China and Japan is NOT free trade. Only globalist pigs like our so called "free trade". Back in the day sane republicans/conservatives insisted that trade be fair and benefit both trading countries. All todays' "free trade" does in make the globalist billionaire pigs (vastly) richer and the poor poorer.
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They lost me when they invited Milo. Anyone with a brain knew that was trouble.
I'd like to know how that conversation developed. Did some millennial convince a bunch of old white dudes running CRAC this was a good idea?
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Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.
From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.
This! QFT
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Trump is not a neoconservative that is true, most of his policies are traditional conservative policies. As opposed to the neoconservative policies of the Bush1 and Bush2. Conservatives of the past used to be very much America First conservatives and insisted migrates assimilated to our culture, adhered to our values and obeyed our laws. Neocons like Democrats could not care less about that.
If fact neocons are really warmongering Democrats that left the democrat party when the democrat party turned in to the anti-war party back in the post LBJ days.
It is nice to see real traditional conservatives back in control of the GOP.
Neocons? Really?
Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?
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Neocons? Really?
Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?
Trumpers are just a bunch of euro nationalists. Personally I wish they would go to Europe to fight their glorious war there.
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Trumpers are just a bunch of euro nationalists. Personally I wish they would go to Europe to fight their glorious war there.
Or in the interim...
<--- DU is that way
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Getting screwed over by trade cheaters like China and Japan is NOT free trade. Only globalist pigs like our so called "free trade". Back in the day sane republicans/conservatives insisted that trade be fair and benefit both trading countries. All todays' "free trade" does in make the globalist billionaire pigs (vastly) richer and the poor poorer.
There is nothing in there with which American socialists like Bernie Sanders might find any cause to disagree.
To begin with, without free trade, the computer you are typing on would cost thousands of dollars, instead of hundreds.
Instead of blaming other countries for our problems, perhaps we might start by reexamining our own economic stupidity, starting with incurring nearly $20 trillion in debt through government overspending, systematically debasing our own currency, and taxing and regulating American businesses to the point where they are virtually compelled to locate their bases of operations in other countries.
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What scares me is the combustible combination of Trump's temper and the left's compulsion to goad him to act on it. This is just not going to end well.
I wouldn't bet on that temper or his being thin-skinned. Not in New York.
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Neocons? Really?
Why do you insist on using derogatory Liberal...and according to some antisemitic terms to refer to Conservatives?
Do you ever address the content of a post? Neocons are not conservatives!
Wiki
Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative-leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1]
ne·o·con·serv·a·tive
1.
relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.
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There is nothing in there with which American socialists like Bernie Sanders might find any cause to disagree.
To begin with, without free trade, the computer you are typing on would cost thousands of dollars, instead of hundreds.
Instead of blaming other countries for our problems, perhaps we might start by reexamining our own economic stupidity, starting with incurring nearly $20 trillion in debt through government overspending, systematically debasing our own currency, and taxing and regulating American businesses to the point where they are virtually compelled to locate their bases of operations in other countries.
What, then, does history teach?
The economic nationalism and protectionism of Hamilton, Madison, Jackson, and Henry Clay, and the Party of Lincoln, McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt, and Coolidge, of all four presidents on Mount Rushmore, made America the greatest and most self-sufficient republic in history.
And the free-trade, one-worldism of Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama enabled Communist China to shoulder us aside us and become the world’s No. 1 manufacturing power.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,251279.msg1241738.html#msg1241738
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It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons. First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen. NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?
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It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons. First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen. NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?
The neocons are the ones that turned almost the entire Middle East and North Africa into a horrible mess that Trump now has to try and clean up.
Neocons include but are not limited to:George W. Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
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It would seem that DT is the neo con of all neo cons. First thing he does is authorized an attack on Yemen. NO it was NOT a success.
Now it seems he wants more boots on the ground in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.
Just who is and who is not a neo con, may I be so bold as to ask?
Trump's success is completely dependent on his followers ability to self erase their memory from one moment to the next.
They know he's a lying bottom feeding liberal piece of trash, they just don't care because they loves our precious.
(http://i.imgur.com/uYxgmnf.png)
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Do you ever address the content of a post? Neocons are not conservatives!
Wiki
Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s among conservative-leaning Democrats who became disenchanted with the party's foreign policy. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the administration of George W. Bush, when they played a major role in promoting and planning the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[1]
ne·o·con·serv·a·tive
1.
relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.
Perhaps if you wouldn't use Liberal terminology to describe Conservatives the actual subject could be discussed. Instead you're more interested it slinging Alt Right/Stormfront/DU terminology.
In an article titled "Where do the neocons go from here?" Richard Dunham attempts to explain to a lay audience what a neocon is and where the "movement" is headed. As anyone who's participated in various political and policy struggles inside the Beltway over the past few years can attest, this is no small feat, as the word neocon has meant many things to many people at many different times. It wasn't too long ago, lest we forget, that to be a neocon meant supporting John McCain for president in 2000, which could have led a casual observer to conclude that the "neo" part meant "moderate."
But in the current era, there seems to be a strong tendency to use neocon as a label for someone who strongly supported the war in Iraq or to describe someone who is, well, Jewish. Mr. Dunham's Business Week piece at first only seems to be doing the former. Using neocon interchangeably with "superhawk," he further writes, "The close-knit intellectuals who make up the neoconservative movement have been called extremists, warmongers, American imperialists -- and even a Zionist cabal." Eschewing the traditional news reporting practice of countering criticism with praise, Mr. Dunham allows those shockingly harsh adjectives to go unchallenged.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0503/mowbray.html
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But in the current era, there seems to be a strong tendency to use neocon as a label for someone who strongly supported the war in Iraq or to describe someone who is, well, Jewish.
BS article, I gave you the definition of neoconservative, google it all you want. Its' got nothing to do with being Jewish. That is a red herring, just as is saying that anyone opposed to Obamas' policies is a racist or an Uncle Tom. Neocons are defined by the policies they believe in, not their race or religion.
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Trump's success is completely dependent on his followers ability to self erase their memory from one moment to the next.
They know he's a lying bottom feeding liberal piece of trash, they just don't care because they loves our precious.
(http://i.imgur.com/uYxgmnf.png)
:thumbsup:
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Cruz says Trump's cabinet is the most conservative in decades so good luck in saying Trump is not conservative.
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BS article, I gave you the definition of neoconservative, google it all you want. Its' got nothing to do with being Jewish. That is a red herring, just as is saying that anyone opposed to Obamas' policies is a racist or an Uncle Tom. Neocons are defined by the policies they believe in, not their race or religion.
It's only BS to people too stupid to use a more intelligent term...or to those not savvy enough to understand code words.
:shrug:
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It's only BS to people too stupid to use a more intelligent term...or to those not savvy enough to understand code words.
:shrug:
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .... it's a duck. But just for grins what term would you suggest instead of neoconservative?
Since I don't hang around people that use "code" words I'm not really up on the latest use of code words in language. I'm kind of an original intent guy when it comes to words. I use them as I was taught to use them back in the day. I don't use them as code, if I want to say something non PC I just come out and say it. I am surprised that has escaped your notice.
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck .... it's a duck. But just for grins what term would you suggest instead of neoconservative?
Since I don't hang around people that use "code" words I'm not really up on the latest use of code words in language. I'm kind of an original intent guy when it comes to words. I use them as I was taught to use them back in the day. I don't use them as code, if I want to say something non PC I just come out and say it. I am surprised that has escaped your notice.
*yawn*
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Part of the party has been alienated and I would not begrudge those people like Eric Erickson, Ben Shapiro, etc. They are still largely good people in their belief systems.
I don't know what the situation was a year ago, remember how CPAC dis-invited Trump or something and that was done by Erickson?
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Part of the party has been alienated and I would not begrudge those people like Eric Erickson, Ben Shapiro, etc. They are still largely good people in their belief systems.
I don't know what the situation was a year ago, remember how CPAC dis-invited Trump or something and that was done by Erickson?
I think Erickson ended up being the fall guy for it.
I imagine attendance was down because the likes of Bannon...Pribus and Milo...three examples of everything wrong with the GOp were going to be there. They didn't want the stink of those three on their clothes.
Those of us with long memories remember how Reince left Michele Bachmann out to dry the last time she ran for occice...how he lied to Mark Levin about stepping in to help her if her race was close and how after the 2012 election he said this:
To broaden its appeal, the party must embrace immigration legislation, according to one recommendation in the report: "We must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our party's appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only," it said. The study also called for being more "inclusive and welcoming" when it comes to social issues.
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The Republican National Committee's shift on minority outreach may be the most visible change in the coming months.
Priebus plans to dispatch hundreds of paid workers into Hispanic, black and Asian communities across the nation by the end of the summer, a $10 million effort meant to rival President Obama's national political machine.
The RNC also will push for a tone of "tolerance and respect" in the immigration debate, create "senior level advisory councils" focused on minority groups, and establish "swearing-in citizenship teams" to connect with new voters immediately after swearing-in ceremonies.
"We need to go to communities where Republicans do not normally go to listen and make our case," the report says. "We need to campaign among Hispanic, black, Asian and gay Americans and demonstrate that we care about them, too."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/18/rnc-endorse-immigration-reform-report.html
And to see the architect of that standing up there on stage was more than many can take.
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I think Erickson ended up being the fall guy for it.
I imagine attendance was down because the likes of Bannon...Pribus and Milo...three examples of everything wrong with the GOp were going to be there. They didn't want the stink of those three on their clothes.
Those of us with long memories remember how Reince left Michele Bachmann out to dry the last time she ran for occice...how he lied to Mark Levin about stepping in to help her if her race was close and how after the 2012 election he said this:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/18/rnc-endorse-immigration-reform-report.html
And to see the architect of that standing up there on stage was more than many can take.
CPAC attendance is going to be the least of the GOP worries in coming years if they think they can continue to snuggle with detestable scum like Bannon, Milo,and Alex Jones
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CPAC attendance is going to be the least of the GOP worries in coming years if they think they can continue to snuggle with detestable scum like Bannon, Milo,and Alex Jones
Vey true.
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I'd like to know how that conversation developed. Did some millennial convince a bunch of old white dudes running CRAC this was a good idea?
Yeah, no kidding!
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I hate to agree with @jpsb on anything, but he's right that trade with China is not a level playing field. They tightly control what US companies can do there. Microsoft can't even own the servers in a China data center; have to be owned by a local Chinese corp. They impose big tarrifs. They subsidize all sorts of things to artificially deflate prices to US customers. For example, any idea why it is so cheap to ship from China to US? Because the Chicom government subsidizes it. And when it comes to intellectual property, the Chinese are the biggest thieves on the planet. And on top of all that, they are an enemy if the US. Letting them destroy our manufacturing base is suicide.
Why should the Chinese (or indeed any nation) NOT put themselves first? Isn't that the entire point of a national government? To look after their own FIRST?
Don't go saying you want the US to do it while simultaneously complaining that other countries do it. Note: that is not aimed at you personally, @Scutter - its rhetorical.
As for the "unfair" trade deals. Re-negotiate them by all means, but bear one thing in mind. Most of the deals were negotiated when the USA had the whip hand during the Cold War. With a lot of countries it doesn't apply any more. You may find you wind up with worse deals, not better.
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Many life-long conservatives did not attend this year's conference, dominated as it was by non-conservatives, namely: populists, nationalists, trade protectionists and alt-Right creeps.
From what little I saw of the event, they were wise to do so. Donald Trump nonetheless maintains the cautious and nervous support of many among those conservatives, which is understandable given the rabid and destructive nature of the opposition on the Left.
I don't like Trump, but I voted for him. To avoid something worse, Hillary. I am always faithful to my motto of voting for the least worst candidate.... that was Trump.
Now, do I oppose Trump on many of things he's proposing? No, I support him when he's right, and oppose him when he's wrong.
In general, Trump so far has more positives than bad. Trying to keep out dangerous aliens is something to support him on. But I oppose his dumb trade and deficit positions.
But in the end, if Trump doesn't win over the majority of the country to conservatism, he has failed. Because after he is gone, if a sizable pct. of the voters are not attracted to conservatism, we will go back on the Marxist-Obama path.
That is the biggest fault of Trump....even his biggest boosters (Limbaugh, Hannity) admit that he is not a conservative. And they are right....he is a populist, quasi-demagogue. So what will the picture of the party be in four or eight years of Trump as it looks to the average voter? That is what I am most concerned about.
Right now, for good or bad, Trump is the picture of the party. With his current behavior I don't believe he will be able to get younger voters to turn conservative no matter what good policies (that I support) he pursues now.
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As for the "unfair" trade deals. Re-negotiate them by all means, but bear one thing in mind. Most of the deals were negotiated when the USA had the whip hand during the Cold War. With a lot of countries it doesn't apply any more. You may find you wind up with worse deals, not better.
The one that has put China where it is now...is the exception to what you say.
Until Billy Jeff came to power China's most favored trade status was a year to year renewal...subject to certain criteria...IIRC there were some years it wasn't renewed at all.
Then Clinton comes along...has some dealings with guys named Huang...Trie...and a company named Hutchinson Wampoa and magically that trading status is made permanent.
I believe that was about the time the oversight of dual use technology was transferred to a department in the Federal Government that allowed it to be more accessible to the ChiComs.
Just one more way someone named Clinton has weakened this country.
As for the rest...you're right...renegotiate if the other countries don't like them.
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Trade by definition benefits workers because all workers are consumers. When prices on an item go down it's like getting a raise for all workers. When trumps tariffs hit it will hurt all workers.
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Trade by definition benefits workers because all workers are consumers. When prices on an item go down it's like getting a raise for all workers. When trumps tariffs hit it will hurt all workers.
I still don't think Trump really wants to have to impose tariffs. But at the same time he won't take that option off of the table, in order to get better trade deals.
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I still don't think Trump really wants to have to impose tariffs. But at the same time he won't take that option off of the table, in order to get better trade deals.
And in turn other countries that we trade with will do the same thing.
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And in turn other countries that we trade with will do the same thing.
China already does pretty much the same thing with US goods.
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Trade by definition benefits workers because all workers are consumers. When prices on an item go down it's like getting a raise for all workers. When trumps tariffs hit it will hurt all workers.
That echoes the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930 that was, like all tariffs, designed to protect the American worker. Instead, other countries retaliated and helped stifle world trade. The result was the depression was exacerbated.
The world-wide depression also hit Germany very hard helping Hitler's rise. I'm not going to blame the rise of Hitler on the tariff, but dire economic conditions greatly helped him.
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The Trump Party hates conservatives with a passion. You heard and saw it all through the primaries. Now they want to pretend to be the victims of "NeverTrumpers".
lol.
I have exactly zero reason or inclination to ever ever support someone like Trump or any other Trumper for office.
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The neocons are the ones that turned almost the entire Middle East and North Africa into a horrible mess that Trump now has to try and clean up.
That's hilarious! That's the same exact excuse the anti-War Leftist nutballs used for Obama's imbecility in Syria, Iraq and the entire M.E.
Nothwithstanding the vacuum His Heinous left behind that was rapidly filled by ISIS over Obama's high-tailing it out of Iraq to cheers from people like yourself.
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Perhaps if you wouldn't use Liberal terminology to describe Conservatives the actual subject could be discussed. Instead you're more interested it slinging Alt Right/Stormfront/DU terminology.
You left out the Ron Paul Mob Zombies that largely ended up supporting Bernie this cycle that run around with those talking point identifiers.
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That echoes the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930 that was, like all tariffs, designed to protect the American worker. Instead, other countries retaliated and helped stifle world trade. The result was the depression was exacerbated.
The world-wide depression also hit Germany very hard helping Hitler's rise. I'm not going to blame the rise of Hitler on the tariff, but dire economic conditions greatly helped him.
It just gave Hitler lots of chaos and conveniently angry people to enrage against Jews, Republicans, immigrants, communists etc.
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You left out the Ron Paul Mob Zombies that largely ended up supporting Bernie this cycle that run around with those talking point identifiers.
IMHO that group split down the middle with half going to Bernie because they got to know Dr. Nutz through his writing at antiwar.com and half went onto back Trump because of his nationalist/isolationist policies.
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Germany was punished after WW1, the sanctions and economic control other countries used to keep them down led directly to WW2.
After WW2 initially, the allies were going to do the same thing they did after WW1. They were going to tear down its factories and all that... but the Cold War and the split gave the western allies impetus to do something else.
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The neocons are the ones that turned almost the entire Middle East and North Africa into a horrible mess that Trump now has to try and clean up.
Neocons include but are not limited to:George W. Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Bremer, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
Now I might be a little fuzzy being an old school Conservative type, but I seem to recall virtually all of America demanding we take it to the Middle East and Africa after that tiny little incident in New York and I would speculate that real problems in The Middle East that forced Republicans to try and fix, go back to a certain peanut farmer, who by the way seems to have had a hand in other messy pies. Hell it seems to me that Republican Presidents have been stuck with trying to fix a democrats problem and all the blame too! Well aside from Korea anyway.
If being in the Middle East and Africa are so bad, I think we should be out, why don't we just see how the great and powerful Trump actually deals with it before we get all congratulatory and demean other Republicans?
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That's hilarious! That's the same exact excuse the anti-War Leftist nutballs used for Obama's imbecility in Syria, Iraq and the entire M.E.
Nothwithstanding the vacuum His Heinous left behind that was rapidly filled by ISIS over Obama's high-tailing it out of Iraq to cheers from people like yourself.
At the same time they cheer for John Bolton who has a any war any time history and wanted to get involved in Libya and Syria. They ignore the fact that Trump snuggled up to those very neocons to get himself elected and even attacked Ted Cruz for accusing McConnell of lying. They just shrug when Trump chooses Mr establishment Priebus for the top job in the white house.
Trump's utter immorality and lack of ethics has infected the whole bunch like gangrene.
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Trump's utter immorality and lack of ethics has infected the whole bunch like gangrene.
Part and parcel of what happens with cults of personality that are elected to power.
Power being the aphrodisiac that negates everything else - including common sense or principle.
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Now I might be a little fuzzy being an old school Conservative type, but I seem to recall virtually all of America demanding we take it to the Middle East and Africa after that tiny little incident in New York and I would speculate that real problems in The Middle East that forced Republicans to try and fix, go back to a certain peanut farmer, who by the way seems to have had a hand in other messy pies. Hell it seems to me that Republican Presidents have been stuck with trying to fix a democrats problem and all the blame too! Well aside from Korea anyway.
If being in the Middle East and Africa are so bad, I think we should be out, why don't we just see how the great and powerful Trump actually deals with it before we get all congratulatory and demean other Republicans?
Well said.
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Now I might be a little fuzzy being an old school Conservative type, but I seem to recall virtually all of America demanding we take it to the Middle East and Africa after that tiny little incident in New York and I would speculate that real problems in The Middle East that forced Republicans to try and fix, go back to a certain peanut farmer, who by the way seems to have had a hand in other messy pies. Hell it seems to me that Republican Presidents have been stuck with trying to fix a democrats problem and all the blame too! Well aside from Korea anyway.
If being in the Middle East and Africa are so bad, I think we should be out, why don't we just see how the great and powerful Trump actually deals with it before we get all congratulatory and demean other Republicans?
You're just hiding your inner neocon with facts that destroy their narrative.
So stop it - Hillary-Lover!
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You're just hiding your inner neocon with facts that destroy their narrative.
So stop it - Hillary-Lover!
Trump has always been vague and adrift on this sort of thing often taking opposing viewpoints within days of each other.
Ted Cruz has been very solid on the idea that we should be a lot choosier about these elective wars and who we choose to ally ourselves with. He was correct in saying we should stay out of libya and he was correct to say we should stay out of Syria. This led to the establishment clowns to start piling out o the car and start claiming that Cruz supports Assad. In reality Cruz supported not making a bad situation worse. However when he mentioned finishing the job in Iraq and Afghanistan the Pualites and Trumpers attacked him for being a war monger.
Frankly we just have too many stupid people both left and right who have no business making complicated decisions in the voting booth.
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Just love these BUT BUSH excuses.
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I still don't think Trump really wants to have to impose tariffs. But at the same time he won't take that option off of the table, in order to get better trade deals.
Why does Steve Bannon keep yapping about economic nationalism?
My point is that free trade is a form of nationalism, as it is good for American consumers.
"Economic nationalism", aka protectionism, will make Americans poorer.