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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: catfish1957 on March 02, 2024, 05:58:30 pm
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For us political junkies, outside the November general elections, the most exciting date are the Super Tuesday Primaries.......
A lot at stake this Tuesday, and on the agenda are these states:
Alabama
Alaska - (Republican primary)
American Samoa - (Democratic caucus)
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Iowa - (Democratic primary)
Maine
Massachusetts
Minnesota
North Carolina
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
I think everyone agrees that the it is a far gone conclusion that outside some sleazy dim shell game, that November race will be Trump v. Biden. So the drama will be minimal in the big picture, but there are some side stories and numbers to watch Tuesday that are important to the narrative.
1. Overall democratic turnout- If these numbers are low, they will either be inidicative of strong Haley cross over, or a litumus test of tepid support for Biden. This will be guaged by the dnc to determine whether the GOTV may be too daunting this year, and a factor of whether dnc might want to switch horses at or just before the convention.
2. Haley Support- Remains to be seen if Haley even has a chance to break 40% in any of the 15 states. VT, and VA, are her best chances. But I give her zero chance of winning any primary beside DC. Question wil be Wednesday, how does she exit with any shred of dignity or political Capital left.
3. MAGA factor- Lots and lots of Senate and House races that will be a barometer of Trump's influence.
4. Watch issue exit polling closely, and the percentage spread of how the voting populus views the border crisis. Laken Riley's death will be fresh on the voter's mind, and there is a good chance her name may be a rallying cry for angry anti-Biden sentiment.
It's going to be interesting, and a pivitol date for the direction this thing takes.
Polls?
Like them, or hate them. It's all we got for macro-trending. I've taken the most recent poll, that are from varying pollsters. Just for info only (Source-RCP, and specific pollster):
VA- Trump +8
CA- Trump +58
MI- Trump-+52
ME Trump- +42
VT- Trump +30
NY- Trump- +40
TX- Trump- +71
GA- Trump- +66
FL- Trump- +71
AZ- Trump-+52
IL- Trump +58
OH- Trump- +67
WI- Trump +42
AL- Trump- +75
OK- Trump- +77
TN- Trump- +70
MA- Trump- +41
MN- Trump- +62
NH- Trump +22
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Anyone voting today? Turnout? Moods? Late breaking news?
We've been blessed / cursed with one of the most closely watched local races in the country in my corner of SE Texas. The Phelan v. Covey race for state representative, has brought out all the guns. But behind the scenes this is an epic struggle between the MAGA and conventional GOP forces. And the center of that fight is Paxton v. Phelan There is a civil war within the GOP, and tonights results will say a lot.
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Anyone voting today? Turnout? Moods? Late breaking news?
We've been blessed / cursed with one of the most closely watched local races in the country in my corner of SE Texas. The Phelan v. Covey race for state representative, has brought out all the guns. But behind the scenes this is an epic struggle between the MAGA and conventional GOP forces. And the center of that fight is Paxton v. Covey There is a civil war within the GOP, and tonights results will say a lot.
Thanks for the information.
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I mailed in my Republican ballot. My wife had me put her sealed Dem mail-in ballot in the mail-in drop-off box outside Town Hall. (Ours is a mixed marriage.)
I haven't been to our town in-person voting place.
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Il isn't in the Super Tues group...our primary is March 12th and I already sent in my ballot.
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Anyone voting today? Turnout? Moods? Late breaking news?
We've been blessed / cursed with one of the most closely watched local races in the country in my corner of SE Texas. The Phelan v. Covey race for state representative, has brought out all the guns. But behind the scenes this is an epic struggle between the MAGA and conventional GOP forces. And the center of that fight is Paxton v. Covey There is a civil war within the GOP, and tonights results will say a lot.
Paxton vs Covey??? Where did you see that? I'm sure you meant to say Paxton v Phelan. @catfish1957
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Il isn't in the Super Tues group...our primary is March 12th and I already sent in my ballot.
:beer:
Now is there any way y'all can dump Pritzker, Duckworth, and Durbin?
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Paxton vs Covey??? Where did you see that? I'm sure you meant to say Paxton v Phelan. @catfish1957
Oops, my bad, I'll correct. Sorry, posting as almost drunk as Phelan :cool:
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Idaho held their caucus a couple of days ago. 84% Trump. 13% Haley. Only a 7% turnout of registered R voters 40,000 out of 579,000.
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Idaho held their caucus a couple of days ago. 84% Trump. 13% Haley. Only a 7% turnout of registered R voters 40,000 out of 579,000.
7%? Weather? That seems low under any circumstance.
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:beer:
Now is there any way y'all can dump Pritzker, Duckworth, and Durbin?
The only way is to keep Cook County from voting :crying:
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7%? Weather? That seems low under any circumstance.
Weather may have played a role here in SE Idaho. We got a foot of new snow on Friday and Saturday. I haven't seen much enthusiasm around in any case. Turnout for the 2020 was only about 26%, but 73% for the general.
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The only way is to keep Cook County from voting :crying:
:yowsa: pointing-up
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The only way is to keep Cook Counties Dead from voting :crying:
Fixed it.
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Fixed it.
LOL...yep
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LOL...yep
Cook county digs deep to get every vote posible.
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Cook county digs deep to get every vote possible.
At least six feet for sure!
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Cook county digs deep to get every vote possible.
(https://i0.wp.com/jeffcassman.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/burstupdates-graveyard-voter.jpg)
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Anyone voting today? Turnout? Moods? Late breaking news?
We've been blessed / cursed with one of the most closely watched local races in the country in my corner of SE Texas. The Phelan v. Covey race for state representative, has brought out all the guns. But behind the scenes this is an epic struggle between the MAGA and conventional GOP forces. And the center of that fight is Paxton v. Phelan There is a civil war within the GOP, and tonights results will say a lot.
Thanks for the info, I've got something to pay attention to tonite! What time do the polls close?
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Thanks for the info, I've got something to pay attention to tonite! What time do the polls close?
7PM Central
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Anyone voting today? Turnout? Moods? Late breaking news?
We've been blessed / cursed with one of the most closely watched local races in the country in my corner of SE Texas. The Phelan v. Covey race for state representative, has brought out all the guns. But behind the scenes this is an epic struggle between the MAGA and conventional GOP forces. And the center of that fight is Paxton v. Phelan There is a civil war within the GOP, and tonights results will say a lot.
I voted this morning. I'm in a pretty small county. But even so, it seemed like the turn out was low. And the weather was/is gorgeous. I read in the local newspaper that early voting was lower than usual. Everybody's mood seemed great and no news to report.
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Thanks for the info, I've got something to pay attention to tonite! What time do the polls close?
You have to be in line before 7pm to vote.
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I voted last week and there was no line.
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Yeah, I voted today...down ticket, aside from the fact that I was repeatedly told Trump didn't need my non worshiping vote(and he didn't for the primary, that's true) my vote for senator(as if it mattered in Californication, I just don't see Garvey winning now matter how much i wish he would) is much more important :shrug:
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:bkmk:
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I don't think I will report Biden's wins...we all know he will win them all.. :shrug:
#BREAKING: Biden wins Democratic primary in Virginia
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
CNN EXIT POLL: Do you think Biden legitimately won in 2020? (GOP Primary voters)
Virginia
Yes — 45%
No — 46%
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North Carolina
Yes — 34%
No — 60%
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South Carolina
Yes — 36%
No — 61%
New Hampshire
Yes — 46%
No — 51%
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Iowa
Yes — 29%
No — 66%
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Virginia Democrats
@vademocrats
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Congratulations to President @JoeBiden
on his victory here in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Virginia Democrats will work their hearts out to ensure you and Vice President @KamalaHarris
carry Virginia with an overwhelming majority in November!
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765168723181126131
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Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
President Trump takes Virginia. So it begins.
https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1765169768565444775 (https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1765169768565444775)
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
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🗳️ Vermont GOP Primary (2% in)
• Trump: 642 (60.8%)
• Haley: 373 (35.3%)
Estimated Final Margin:
• Trump 54% (+9)
• Haley 45%
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765174692363804681
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765173153376899324
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https://twitter.com/PRMemes_/status/1765173455656305007
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Virginia Democrats
@vademocrats
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Congratulations to President @JoeBiden
on his victory here in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Virginia Democrats will work their hearts out to ensure you and Vice President @KamalaHarris
carry Virginia with an overwhelming majority in November!
I find this quite humorous actually...who did he run against for his victory?
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I don't think I will report Biden's wins...we all know he will win them all.. :shrug:
#BREAKING: Biden wins Democratic primary in Virginia
Wow...Joe running against no one; wins. How about that??? :silly:
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7%? Weather? That seems low under any circumstance.
7% is low, even for a primary. :shrug:
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765181490973856132
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765181668380274739
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765181414343872836
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765181276535853256
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So far -- Haley is getting trounced. Trump has won Virginia, Tennessee, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Maine, Alabama...
Not to worry -- she did win D.C. :silly:
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765183874580074868
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765174692363804681
I don't know much about this governor - I suppose it's a victory for the GOP?
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Vermont 16%
Trump 51.4%
Haley 45%
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Vermont 16%
Trump 51.4%
Haley 45%
...hmmm.....Haley just may take Vermont. This is pretty close with only 16% of the vote in.
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Monica Crowley
@MonicaCrowley
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Mar 3
Steve Garvey leading Russia Hoaxer Adam Schiff by 2 points.
COME ON, CALIFORNIA - YOU CAN DO IT!
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James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
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Whether you are Democrat, Republican, or Independent, a vote for Russia Hoaxer Adam Schiff is a vote for mendacity. He is a censured liar, condemned by the United States House of Representatives. Don't embarrass the great State of California any further. Vote for Steve Garvey.
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https://twitter.com/LangmanVince/status/1765182862737736101
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https://twitter.com/MericanPatriot/status/1765183983288041708
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20% (CNN)
Trump: 49.3
Haley: 47.4
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https://twitter.com/MericanPatriot/status/1765178107416154383
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Just noticed in the CNN polling that Trump's name does not appear in Arkansas?? It's only listing Haley and Hutchison??? Anyone?
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Haley is now ahead in VT: 28% - Haley 48.3 Trump 48.2
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https://twitter.com/LangmanVince/status/1765185050025308389
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Tracy Beanz
@tracybeanz
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It’s pointless to pay attention to the presidential primary - Trump is going to absolutely demolish @NikkiHaley
- Watch down ballot.
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Decision Desk HQ
@DecisionDeskHQ
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Replying to
@DecisionDeskHQ
DDHQ Race Update (est. 35% in): VT President Republican Primary
Nikki Haley (R): 9,516
(48.32%)
Donald J. Trump (R): 9,505
(48.26%)
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765188182558056541
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Haley is now ahead in VT: 28% - Haley 48.3 Trump 48.2
Not surprising it is a Lesbaru with a Golden retriever state.
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New England is RINO country.
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Vermont
Nikki Haley
11,336 48.53
Donald Trump
11,196 47.93
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Next group of polls closing in Colorado, Texas and Minnesota 9pm est
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Vermont
R
Donald Trump
12,226 48.28
R
Nikki Haley
12,195 48.16
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH81yqRWcAEyURn?format=jpg&name=small)
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TRUMP SWEEPING SUPER TUESDAY:
Alabama
• Arkansas
• Idaho
• Iowa
• Maine
• Michigan
• Missouri
• Nevada
• New Hampshire
• North Carolina
• North Dakota
• Oklahoma
• South Carolina
• Tennessee
• Virginia
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765195795949625778
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
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BREAKING: Donald Trump wins the Republican presidential primary in Massachusetts. #APRaceCall at 8:48 p.m. EST
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Fox reporting Trump wins Texas
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
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BREAKING: Donald Trump wins the Texas GOP Primary.
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765196523539697786
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https://twitter.com/WayneDupreeShow/status/1765195861569438079
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Jeff Carlson
@themarketswork
Just remember what's going on here. Schiff has actually been boosting Garvey (R) in order to push out Katie Porter (D). He's doing this because there will be a runoff between the Top Two CA Senate Candidates in November.
Schiff is more confident of his head-to-head chances against a Republican (Garvey) than a strong Democrat (Porter) in a heavily Blue CA.
https://latimes.com/politics/story
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I voted in a new State today. Paper ballots and ink pens. Such a contrast to Georgia.
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Dominick Mastrangelo
@DomMastrangelo1
Karl Rove is on Fox right now telling Trump to "stop the bad language."
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https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1765198684294123547
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
🗳️ DDHQ PROJECTS: Donald Trump wins
✅ North Carolina
✅ Tennessee
✅ Oklahoma
✅ Maine
✅ Alabama
✅ North Carolina
✅ Virginia
✅ Arkansas
✅ Massachusetts
✅ Colorado
✅ Texas
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Dominick Mastrangelo
@DomMastrangelo1
Karl Rove is on Fox right now telling Trump to "stop the bad language."
Karl Rove is still relevant how??
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Vermont...Trump pulling away
46%in
Donald Trump
15,650 48.92
R
Nikki Haley
14,859 46.45
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Karl Rove is still relevant how??
Fox thinks he is... *****rollingeyes*****
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David Covey (R) 55% 5,334
Dade Phelan (R)* 39.2% 3,801
Alicia Davis (R) 5.8% 565
47% est. vote in
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RealBenGeller
@RealBenGeller
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🚨BREAKING: Texas Ledge House Speaker Dade Phelan has been defeated in the primary. So long you traitor!
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Vermont
Donald Trump
16,232 48.48
R
Nikki Haley
15,736 47.00
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David Covey (R) 55% 5,334
Dade Phelan (R)* 39.2% 3,801
Alicia Davis (R) 5.8% 565
47% est. vote in
WOOT !!!
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RealBenGeller
@RealBenGeller
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🚨BREAKING: Texas Ledge House Speaker Dade Phelan has been defeated in the primary. So long you traitor!
Wonder if they are sure, I am only seeing 1 out of 35 precint showing
@Bigun
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Vermont..Haley creeping back up
51.48%
R
Donald Trump
17,433 48.38
R
Nikki Haley
16,998 47.17
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Jasper Scherer
@jaspscherer
.@CoveyTX
wins 55% of the Orange County early vote, dropping @DadePhelan
below 50% thru combined early returns in Jefferson and Orange. Overall state of #HD21 right now:
Phelan 47.7% (8,044 votes)
Covey 47.5% (8,018 votes)
Davis 4.8% (812 votes)
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https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1765205087440502948
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https://twitter.com/merissahansen17/status/1765203711704367319
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https://twitter.com/JohnBasham/status/1765205050777817479
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
With zero evidence, facts, or statistics, bigot Joy Reid says on MSNBC that Republicans are not voting on economics, but on race.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMV6Jt4mso8)
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Oh wow..Haley closing in
.06%
R
Donald Trump
18,361 48.08
R
Nikki Haley
18,131 47.48
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Looks more like a runoff....
Texas House Rep Dist 21 (R)
Precincts: 60 / 85 (71% reporting)
David Covey (R)
46%
9,967
Dade Phelan (R)*
45%
9,629
Alicia Davis (R)
9%
2,039
Total 21,635 votes
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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Dade Phalen loses his election.
This was the man who tried to impeach AG Ken Paxton.
GOODBYE BITCH!
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Carmine Sabia
@CarmineSabia
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BREAKING: Jason Palmer defeats Joe Biden in American Samoa.
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Vermont...
R
Donald Trump
19,036 48.07
R
Nikki Haley
18,802 47.48
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Pretty much final results.... 99% in. I think the celebration was premature. I think this thing is going to a run off.
Texas House Rep Dist 21 (R)
Precincts: 84 / 85 (99% reporting)
David Covey (R)
46%
10,420
Dade Phelan (R)*
44%
9,966
Alicia Davis (R)
9%
2,112
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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1h
Dan Crenshaw may LOSE his seat tonight!
Millions wasted!
TELLING!
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Looks like Crenshaw will squeak by
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1765204544328192232
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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1h
Dan Crenshaw may LOSE his seat tonight!
Millions wasted!
TELLING!
Not seeing that. Crenshaw is up by double digits.
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J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
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Man I knew Trump would have a good night but this is a rout.
For voters, we have the next six months to convince them that DJT deserves another term.
But for donors and political professionals, it's time to unite behind our nominee. Please stop wasting time and money.
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J.D. Vance
@JDVance1
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Man I knew Trump would have a good night but this is a rout.
For voters, we have the next six months to convince them that DJT deserves another term.
But for donors and political professionals, it's time to unite behind our nominee. Please stop wasting time and money.
The RNC and the GOP have roughly six months to ensure that we get a fair election. That's really the bottom line.
Whether evil Joe makes it until November is still questionable.
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Vermont...damn
65%
Nikki Haley
48.7%
22,273 votes
Donald Trump
46.9%
21,467 vote
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The only reason it’s tight in Vermont is because it’s an open primary state, and DEMS VOTED FOR HALEY!
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Vermont...damn
65%
Nikki Haley
48.7%
22,273 votes
Donald Trump
46.9%
21,467 vote
Vermont doesn't have enough black voters for Trump to win.
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Larry Elder
@larryelder
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It’s official! Nikki Haley is the President of Vermont.
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Looks like Haley wins Vermont..she's ahead by 3.3%
49.51%
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I'm not gonna make it for the West coast numbers....so tired..
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Trump seems tired out there tonight.
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Vermont 76%
R
Nikki Haley
32,149 49.71
R
Donald Trump
29,745 45.99
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CBS News
@CBSNews
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President Biden and former President Donald Trump are sweeping the Super Tuesday races, setting up a rematch in November, which would be the first time in over 100 years that a sitting president and a former president face off.
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https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1765217264431767930
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Trump seems tired out there tonight.
He sounds tired...
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https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1765217834752225329
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"NOV 5TH will go down as the most important date in U.S. History" ? Seriously Mr. Trump? Yes, an important election ridding the Whitehouse of the Biden Crime family but your narcissism is so over the top.
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Graham Allen
@GrahamAllen_1
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BREAKING NEWS:
Nikki Haleys has *reportedly* won ONE state out of the 16 tonight...
Vermont.
The state with BERNIE SANDERS as a Senator!
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Hmmm...Lee Zeldin at Mar-a-lago.....VP pick?
https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1765213348994416866
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Rich Baris The People's Pundit
@Peoples_Pundit
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14m
Vermont delegate allocation looking like 9 for @NikkiHaley
, 8 for @realDonaldTrump
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That's the mid projection scenario.
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Okay...going to bed...Someone post Ca and Utah's results please.....
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The only reason it’s tight in Vermont is because it’s an open primary state, and DEMS VOTED FOR HALEY!
Vermont's a weird state anyway. Demographics that would normally vote Republican (and did vote for a Republican for Governor in Phil Scott) vote Democrat on a federal scale.
So those "Dem crossover" votes may actually be organic Haley support.
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82.32% est. vote in
*Incumbent
Candidate % Votes Total Votes
David Covey (R) 46% 9,967
Dade Phelan (R)* 44.5% 9,629
Alicia Davis (R) 9.5% 2,053
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Adam Schiff DEM 224,521 32.0%
Steve Garvey GOP 224,487 32.0%
Katie Porter DEM 133,307 19.0%
10% expected votes in (Est. remaining 6,299,000)
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"NOV 5TH will go down as the most important date in U.S. History" ? Seriously Mr. Trump? Yes, an important election ridding the Whitehouse of the Biden Crime family but your narcissism is so over the top.
Everything is "worst" or "best ever" with him. The film earlier, again with the "greatest economy ever in history". What? How? For more than 1 month?
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82.32% est. vote in
*Incumbent
Candidate % Votes Total Votes
David Covey (R) 46% 9,967
Dade Phelan (R)* 44.5% 9,629
Alicia Davis (R) 9.5% 2,053
If that holds Phelan is TOAST!
After throwing 7.5 million (thus far) to try and hold on to a job that pays $600.00 per month.
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Candidate Votes Percentage
Adam Schiff DEM 1,022,667 34.1%
Steve Garvey GOP 923,540 30.8%
Katie Porter DEM 511,997 17.1%
43% expected votes in (Est. remaining 4,000,000)
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99% est. vote in
*Incumbent
Candidate % Votes Total Votes
David Covey (R) 46.3% 15,579
Dade Phelan (R)* 43.2% 14,547
Alicia Davis (R) 10.5% 3,517
@Bigun and the Texas chapter - the fat lady has sung!
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99% est. vote in
*Incumbent
Candidate % Votes Total Votes
David Covey (R) 46.3% 15,579
Dade Phelan (R)* 43.2% 14,547
Alicia Davis (R) 10.5% 3,517
@Bigun and the Texas chapter - the fat lady has sung!
:hands: :hands: :hands: :hands: :hands:
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Candidate Votes Percentage
Adam Schiff DEM 1,053,871 33.7%
Steve Garvey GOP 971,990 31.1%
Katie Porter DEM 529,164 16.9%
45% expected votes in (Est. remaining 3,876,000)
Last one before bed. Needle hasn't moved much the last couple of hours but Garvey is holding his own and projected to be in the runoff with Schifft-for-brains.
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https://twitter.com/RepStickland/status/1765263996595167573
And we ain't done yet!
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I know we all hate polls, but here is how it shaped up versus my synopsis on the first post of this thread:
Polling data in Blue, actual results in purple, deviation green (DJT out performed ), red (DJT underperformed)
VA- Trump +8 Trump +29 . Trump +21
CA- Trump +58 Trump +55 Trump -3
ME Trump- +42 Trump +47. Trump +5
VT- Trump +30 Trump -4 Trump -34
TX- Trump- +71 Trump +60 Trump -11
AL- Trump- +75 Trump +70. Trump -5
OK- Trump- +77 Trump +66 Trump -11
TN- Trump- +70 Trump +56. Trump -14
MA- Trump- +41 Trump +23 Trump -18
MN- Trump- +62 Trump +41 Trump -21
Sorry for spacing
Draw your own conclusion, but from my POV, DJT underperformed, and might show one of two things:
1. Demcrat crossover was greater than thought
2. Trump's suppoort within the party is softer than realized.
Bonus: 3. Polling in general sucks in many ways in political planning
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Benny Johnson
@bennyjohnson
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23m
🚨 Nikki Haley to suspend presidential campaign.
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Utah
65% reporting
Donald Trump (R) 58.2% 37,960
Nikki Haley (R) 40.7% 26,539
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Candidate Votes Percentage
Steve Garvey GOP 1,317,911 34.6%
Adam Schiff DEM 1,173,917 30.8%
Katie Porter DEM 610,834 16.0%
54% expected votes in (Est. remaining 3,188,000)
At least the Schifftbird is in 2nd place at the moment. Can't believe how pathetic the coastal blue counties are counting the vote. A lot of them aren't even over 50%.
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Utah
65% reporting
Donald Trump (R) 58.2% 37,960
Nikki Haley (R) 40.7% 26,539
Even the Mormons have given up the fight... that says a lot. Both about how much of a non-starter Nikki Haley is on the right, and how much the Trump machine has suffocated any opposition to him within the party.
There is no future for anything to the actual right of Donald Trump in the Republican Party.
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Even the Mormons have given up the fight... that says a lot. Both about how much of a non-starter Nikki Haley is on the right, and how much the Trump machine has suffocated any opposition to him within the party.
There is no future for anything to the actual right of Donald Trump in the Republican Party.
Nikki Haley was most certainly not to the right of Donald Trump.
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Nikki Haley was most certainly not to the right of Donald Trump.
Agree. For me it was over when RDS departed.
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Even the Mormons have given up the fight... that says a lot. Both about how much of a non-starter Nikki Haley is on the right, and how much the Trump machine has suffocated any opposition to him within the party.
There is no future for anything to the actual right of Donald Trump in the Republican Party.
I disagree. Sure, the GOP is in shambles and I think that they will soon realize that either the party starts veering more to the right or they will continue to destruct. The GOPe is dying; the GOP/Tea Party is still very much alive and fighting.
I can only say; continue to vote for as many conservatives as possible; governors, mayors, supervisor of elections, school board members, sheriffs, etc....they are out there. Maybe not plentiful, but they are out there and at the end of the day, remember that conservatism works, liberalism doesn't.
There is much to be said right now for standing behind the GOP nominee; there is no other choice, other than 3rd party or abstaining. I get it, it's extremely difficult to stand behind someone who has brought so much ambiguity and chaos to the party and I'm not sure if I can get behind him either. I'm giving myself 6 months to just sit back and watch how things unfold. Felonies and his age are huge issues and we might wind up with another GOP nominee. Things could change.
The DEMS win for two reasons; cheating/mob rule and they stand united. Whether they believe in the cause or not, they do stand united.
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Agree. For me it was over when RDS departed.
DeSantis is right where he needs to be and perhaps him stepping aside was him realizing that right now he can do more good as a governor than as Prez with a congress laced with bat crapy crazy liberals. I've said this before; we need as many conservative governors in place who won't buckle under. Our conservative governors are holding the line and right now they are combating this administration as best they can, especially in helping Abbott down in TX.
Prayers up for our conservative governors.
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I disagree. Sure, the GOP is in shambles and I think that they will soon realize that either the party starts veering more to the right or they will continue to destruct. The GOPe is dying; the GOP/Tea Party is still very much alive and fighting.
Bull▓▓▓▓. Because they're all voting for Lockdown Don. And those that aren't can keep fighting all they want but it won't matter because we're only 15% of the population at most, and we can't reproduce because all the women who can are against us and we have no leverage, and those of us who do have kids will see them corrupted in the public schools or by social media. We've lost.
Trump can make all the noise he wants about this being the last chance to save America, but it's bull▓▓▓▓. The fight is lost. He's nothing but a tool for the left and he showed it March 2020. All talk, but a Clinton when it comes to policy.
I can only say; continue to vote for as many conservatives as possible; governors, mayors, supervisor of elections, school board members, sheriffs, etc....they are out there. Maybe not plentiful, but they are out there and at the end of the day, remember that conservatism works, liberalism doesn't.
There is much to be said right now for standing behind the GOP nominee; there is no other choice, other than 3rd party or abstaining. I get it, it's extremely difficult to stand behind someone who has brought so much ambiguity and chaos to the party and I'm not sure if I can get behind him either. I'm giving myself 6 months to just sit back and watch how things unfold. Felonies and his age are huge issues and we might wind up with another GOP nominee. Things could change.
The DEMS win for two reasons; cheating/mob rule and they stand united. Whether they believe in the cause or not, they do stand united.
Local governments only have as much power as the states will give them. In New York, where I live, that's practically zero, and I lack the connections or resources to relocate anywhere else except maybe Pennsylvania... and they're not far behind.
I spent THREE YEARS UNEMPLOYED during Trump's presidency, supposedly the strongest economy our country has ever seen. And then he locked the country down by proxy. He ▓▓▓▓ed over my life, and now he demands my vote?
Democracy is a fraud. What I wouldn't give for a benevolent king to tell people to get in line, start making families and get back right with God. Because America has lost the plot.
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Agree. For me it was over when RDS departed.
Same here
He seemed to be the only one in the GOP line up that at least understood the root cause of inflation