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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: mystery-ak on May 20, 2014, 11:17:41 pm
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/20/Mitch-McConnell-defeats-tea-party-challenger-Matt-Bevin (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/20/Mitch-McConnell-defeats-tea-party-challenger-Matt-Bevin)
by Breitbart News 20 May 2014, 4:08 PM PDT post a comment
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has defeated millionaire businessman Matt Bevin in an expensive and bruising primary election in Kentucky. He'll face Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes in the fall as he pursues his sixth term.
McConnell has been one of President Barack Obama's fiercest critics, but Bevin accused the longtime senator of not being conservative enough.
Bevin spent $3.3 million in his bid as a political newcomer backed by various tea party groups. McConnell drowned him out with more than $9 million in spending. Outside groups spent millions more defending his conservative credentials.
McConnell had already shifted into fall campaign mode. He's been attacking Obama's health care law and coal regulations and trying to link Grimes to the president, who is deeply unpopular in Kentucky.
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What are the numbers?
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Winner M. McConnell (i) 60.3% 57,781
M. Bevin 35.8% 34,334
S. Sterling 1.9% 1,785
C. Payne 1.3% 1,234
B. Copas 0.7% 701
Precincts Reporting: 29.7%
Updated: 7:26 PM ET
Source: Associated Press
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Winner M. McConnell (i) 60.3% 57,781
M. Bevin 35.8% 34,334
S. Sterling 1.9% 1,785
C. Payne 1.3% 1,234
B. Copas 0.7% 701
Precincts Reporting: 29.7%
Updated: 7:26 PM ET
Source: Associated Press
As predicted, an absolute blowout. Go away, Tea Party SuperPACs.
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Taking out an incumbent is REALLY hard!
Taking out an incumbent with REAL power is very much harder.
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Taking out an incumbent is REALLY hard!
Taking out an incumbent with REAL power is very much harder.
Yeah....
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As predicted, an absolute blowout. Go away, Tea Party SuperPACs.
Yeah, Tea Partiers! Stop supporting people who share you values and ideals. Listen to your betters and go with the status quo!
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Georgia
M. Nunn 72.7% 3,286
T. Robinson 14.7% 663
S. Miles 8.3% 373
B. Radulovacki 4.3% 195
J. Kingston 52.8% 6,786
D. Perdue 21.2% 2,724
K. Handel 11.4% 1,465
P. Broun 6.8% 869
P. Gingrey 5.8% 748
D. Grayson 1.1% 143
A. Gardner 0.9% 111
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Yeah, Tea Partiers! Stop supporting people who share you values and ideals. Listen to your betters and go with the status quo!
You will hear all manner of arguments form some about how the TEA party wasted time and resources on this effort but don't you believe it! Ever!
The TEA party has never been so much about winning elections as it is about moving the Republican party rightward and that they are doing!
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The TEA party has never been so much about winning elections as it is about moving the Republican party rightward and that they are doing!
Yes. And that's always been my problem. I don't care how far right the Republican party is if they have no power.
Power first, then position is my philosophy. I'm not fond of having the perfect position and no power at all.
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Some of you better had triple up with padded underwear....Sinkspur's gonna kick some a$$ when he gets here. :silly:
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I doesn't matter. That is exactly what everyone knew would happen.
That is why I will support whichever Dem runs against him. "We will crush the Tea Party!" That kind of verbage tends to radicalize people. And there are more than just me.
Since nothing means anything anymore, why not vote Dem. As Clinton said, "What difference does it make!?"
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Winner M. McConnell (i) 60.3% 57,781
M. Bevin 35.8% 34,334
S. Sterling 1.9% 1,785
C. Payne 1.3% 1,234
B. Copas 0.7% 701
Precincts Reporting: 29.7%
Updated: 7:26 PM ET
Source: Associated Press
Thanks Myst. Mitch spent three times more than Bevin - had to resort to negative ads, twisting the truth and outright LYING - doesn't say much about how confident he was of winning easily. Considering how long he's been roosting in DC, and how long of a record he has - that was not something he touted. Bevin fought a good fight, he's a good man and I hope he tries politics again. I thought he was a great candidate.
In the last two weeks, I saw Bevin signs everywhere and only two "Team Mitch" signs. The small group of people sick of Mitch surely had the passion. I sure am seeing Alison Lundergan Grimes signs popping up everywhere overnight!
I guess us stupid embarrassing Tea Party "folks" should just learn our place - how dare we challenge an incumbent?
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I doesn't matter. That is exactly what everyone knew would happen.
That is why I will support whichever Dem runs against him. "We will crush the Tea Party!" That kind of verbage tends to radicalize people. And there are more than just me.
Since nothing means anything anymore, why not vote Dem. As Clinton said, "What difference does it make!?"
Been drinking, again?
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Been drinking, again?
Lol, just a we touch o' the spirits. But, no. I am serious. The status quo is no longer acceptable. Something has to change, no matter what.
Just tired of the same old game decade after decade. I will also support whomever runs against Boehner. I'm not playing any more. Screw these lifelong GOPe guys. I'd rather vote Democrat.
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Lol, just a we touch o' the spirits. But, no. I am serious. The status quo is no longer acceptable. Something has to change, no matter what.
Just tired of the same old game decade after decade. I will also support whomever runs against Boehner. I'm not playing any more. Screw these lifelong GOPe guys. I'd rather vote Democrat.
I completely understand how you feel 240B. Feeling pretty low myself tonight. I have voted for Mitch McConnell every election (except for this one) since he first ran in 1984. In the last 8 years, he has lied to me when I have contacted his office about certain issues, he has talked about the Tea Party in extremely disparaging terms, he has sent me fliers during this last election that were filled with lies that insulted my intelligence.....he has failed to represent me. To say that I am disappointed in him is an understatement.
I was a Jim Bunning supporter, campaigned for him and manned the telephones for him - he was a fine conservative man and a great Senator - until Mitch McConnell pushed him out and tried to install his own handpicked guy Trey Grayson. Mitch is not a nice guy.
I watched West Virginia be saddled with Robert Byrd until they had to wheel his dead, decaying body out onto the Senate floor - and still - he wouldn't give up the office, even though under his leadership WV languished at the bottom of every list. Much like Kentucky!
LOL! In KY we have a joke - thank God for West Virginia - they kept US from being at the bottom of every list. I guess we'll be wheeling ol' Mitch's body out onto the Senate floor before too long. They just won't leave.
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I guess us stupid embarrassing Tea Party "folks" should just learn our place - how dare we challenge an incumbent?
We can't give up..we knew this would be a tough fight and it may take years...we must fight on...
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Been drinking, again?
I wouldn't piss on McConnell if he were on fire. He's a corrupt piece of crap who only cares about his power, money, and influence. That's what Democrats are for. In most cases, it makes sense for conservatives to vote for the most conservative guy on the ballot, even if you don't like him all that much. In this case, I'd vote for no one.
Screw the GOP elite. They won't fight for us because they aren't us. They are as useless to conservatives as teats on a bull.
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We can't give up..we knew this would be a tough fight and it may take years...we must fight on...
Yes, you're right Myst. I'm not going to give up. Sure, it's going to take some time - and sure, our obituary will be written many times - but I think we are here to stay. We've got all the right enemies, we must be doing something right!
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We can't give up..we knew this would be a tough fight and it may take years...we must fight on...
It's futile, once the MSM machine...in concert with the Left...controls and defines what is "news".
The key is to get the MSM to revere the Constitution and the THREE branches of government. Good Luck.
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I completely understand how you feel 240B. Feeling pretty low myself tonight. I have voted for Mitch McConnell every election (except for this one) since he first ran in 1984. In the last 8 years, he has lied to me when I have contacted his office about certain issues, he has talked about the Tea Party in extremely disparaging terms, he has sent me fliers during this last election that were filled with lies that insulted my intelligence.....he has failed to represent me. To say that I am disappointed in him is an understatement.
I was a Jim Bunning supporter, campaigned for him and manned the telephones for him - he was a fine conservative man and a great Senator - until Mitch McConnell pushed him out and tried to install his own handpicked guy Trey Grayson. Mitch is not a nice guy.
I watched West Virginia be saddled with Robert Byrd until they had to wheel his dead, decaying body out onto the Senate floor - and still - he wouldn't give up the office, even though under his leadership WV languished at the bottom of every list. Much like Kentucky!
LOL! In KY we have a joke - thank God for West Virginia - they kept US from being at the bottom of every list. I guess we'll be wheeling ol' Mitch's body out onto the Senate floor before too long. They just won't leave.
Not voting for him is a defacto one vote against him. Voting for the Democrat is two votes against him. I'm not playing anymore. I want to crush him, as much as he wants to crush me.
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True conservatives are powerless victims, fall short in elections within their party, yet want to run the country.
victims of media
victims of other Republicans
victims of demographics
victims of Obama, democrats
Another approach might be to convert, convince, persuade folks and gain MORE VOTERS, instead of playing perpetual victims.
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I doesn't matter. That is exactly what everyone knew would happen.
That is why I will support whichever Dem runs against him. "We will crush the Tea Party!" That kind of verbage tends to radicalize people. And there are more than just me.
Since nothing means anything anymore, why not vote Dem. As Clinton said, "What difference does it make!?"
I won't stoop that far, but at this point, we'd better hope the Libertarian Party has a dog in this race. (Update: they do; his name's David Patterson, not to be confused with the former NY Governor.) McConnell has zero appeal to those outside the party and WILL LOSE.
He may be able to dupe what few registered Republicans are left in the state of Kentucky, but those attack dogs don't hunt among the independents.
I can't believe I'm calling for supporting the big-L Libertarians, who I normally despise as vote-throwers to the Democrats... but this is what it has become. The Republican Party has become corrupt; the honest ones have left, leaving the cronies.
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Another approach might be to convert, convince, persuade folks and gain MORE VOTERS, instead of playing perpetual victims.
If that worked, don't you think we'd have done it by now? It doesn't. We're surrounded by masses programmed to send this country to ruin. THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO REASON.
This is not a political race. This is right and wrong, good and evil we are talking about here.
And in the ways of the world, evil usually wins.
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Let's put it this way, with almost all of the precincts reporting - Mitch McConnell received around 205,000 votes and Alison Lundergan Grimes (the Democrat nominee) received about 299,000 votes. She got 76% of the Democrat vote and Mitch got 60% of the Republicans.
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Let's put it this way, with almost all of the precincts reporting - Mitch McConnell received around 205,000 votes and Alison Lundergan Grimes (the Democrat nominee) received about 299,000 votes. She got 76% of the Democrat vote and Mitch got 60% of the Republicans.
Ha...well he better unite those Repubs and get them all to the polls or there will be a Dem Senator from Ky this fall...
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Some of you better had triple up with padded underwear....Sinkspur's gonna kick some a$$ when he gets here. :silly:
Nah. Things went pretty much the way I thought they would.
McConnell will defeat Grimes (she is a vapid, empty dress) because Kentucky is a red state. Whichever Republican wins in Georgia will beat Nunn handily.
Democrats have to be scared to death tonight. The Senate WILL turn red and Obama's presidency will be over.
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Not voting for him is a defacto one vote against him. Voting for the Democrat is two votes against him. I'm not playing anymore. I want to crush him, as much as he wants to crush me.
What a silly, childish attitude!!! You come across as immature as a high-school sophomore.
Voting for a Democrat IS NEVER A GOOD THING TO DO.
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McConnell will defeat Grimes (she is a vapid, empty dress) because Kentucky is a red state.
What kind of "red state" elects a Democrat governor twice in a row?
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If that worked, don't you think we'd have done it by now? It doesn't. We're surrounded by masses programmed to send this country to ruin. THEY DO NOT LISTEN TO REASON.
This is not a political race. This is right and wrong, good and evil we are talking about here.
And in the ways of the world, evil usually wins.
Don't be ridiculous. Mitch McConnell is evil?
Next time, nominate a guy who doesn't believe that it's just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors.
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What kind of "red state" elects a Democrat governor twice in a row?
The same kind of red state that elects two GOP Senators. And will still have two GOP Senators after November.
Grimes is a dope.
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Nah. Things went pretty much the way I thought they would.
McConnell will defeat Grimes (she is a vapid, empty dress) because Kentucky is a red state. Whichever Republican wins in Georgia will beat Nunn handily.
Democrats have to be scared to death tonight. The Senate WILL turn red and Obama's presidency will be over.
Just found it intriguing that although you've held a minority POV regarding these primaries, you nailed it again. Good job. :beer:
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Don't be ridiculous. Mitch McConnell is evil?
Next time, nominate a guy who doesn't believe that it's just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors.
Could you please provide a link to where Matt Bevin said he believes that? I don't think you will be able to, because he never said anything like that - and that is typical of the kind of shitty lying campaign that Mitch ran. Really, I'd like to see the link.
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Just found it intriguing that although you've held a minority POV regarding these primaries, you nailed it again. Good job. :beer:
McConnell has never lost in Kentucky. I'm confident that most of Bevin's supporters will vote for McConnell, now that they've been shocked out of their zombie state induced by Matt Hoskins and those money-suckers from SCF.
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Could you please provide a link to where Matt Bevin said he believes that? I don't think you will be able to, because he never said anything like that - and that is typical of the kind of shitty lying campaign that Mitch ran. Really, I'd like to see the link.
Why don't you provide a link to a quote in which Bevin's explains why the hell he was at a cockfight? If you do, you'll see that he says it's a state's rights issue.
That's like saying it was OK for Michael Vick to have dog fights because, well, Georgia hadn't outlawed the practice.
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/04/02/3175612/after-attending-pro-cockfighting.html
The dope said he didn't even KNOW he was at a cockfight!!!
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Just found it intriguing that although you've held a minority POV regarding these primaries, you nailed it again. Good job. :beer:
I think most here had no doubt Mitch would win...we were just hoping and praying for his reign to come to an end....but no way would I support a Dem over him this fall....I still believe{foolish I know} that Repubs can do a better job than ratsDems.
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Maybe the Kentucky voter just doesn't want to take chances with a rookie in the seat...given the hell hole the country is in.
Whatever the reason....we need 60 GOP Senators come January 1st.
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Why don't you provide a link to a quote in which Bevin's explains why the hell he was at a cockfight? If you do, you'll see that he says it's a state's rights issue.
That's like saying it was OK for Michael Vick to have dog fights because, well, Georgia hadn't outlawed the practice.
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/04/02/3175612/after-attending-pro-cockfighting.html
The dope said he didn't even KNOW he was at a cockfight!!!
You know sink - you're coming awful close to lying about this yourself. I have to assume that since you provided the link - that you also read the article. It was NOT a cockfight! It was a RALLY of Gamefowl enthusiasts promoting state's rights in regards to the legality of cockfighting. You keep saying he was at a "cockfight". That is just not true!
And also - you said Bevins thought it was "just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors". I'll ask again - can you provide a link to that? I bet that you cannot, because Bevin never expressed such an opinion.
Are you telling the truth - or are you telling a "Mitch"?
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I think most here had no doubt Mitch would win...we were just hoping and praying for his reign to come to an end....but no way would I support a Dem over him this fall....I still believe{foolish I know} that Repubs can do a better job than ratsDems.
Well, of course they would do a much better job.....if by 'job' you mean STOP this "Transformation of America"....and if it means Michelle is full of baloney when you promised us that "We can NEVER go back to our lives they way it was before!"
This Administration is NOT incompetent. It is a willful attempt to tear down this country's traditions and greatness on the world stage. And an attempt to destroy Israel.
THAT's the beginning and the end of it.
"Incompetence" my butt.
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Well, of course they would do a much better job.....if by 'job' you mean STOP this "Transformation of America"....and if it means Michelle is full of baloney when you promised us that "We can NEVER go back to our lives they way it was before!"
This Administration is NOT incompetent. It is a willful attempt to tear down this country's traditions and greatness on the world stage. And an attempt to destroy Israel.
THAT's the beginning and the end of it.
"Incompetence" my butt.
Absolutely right!
That is the ONLY reason the people (Iran) who own Obama put him in the oval office in the first place!
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You know sink - you're coming awful close to lying about this yourself. I have to assume that since you provided the link - that you also read the article. It was NOT a cockfight! It was a RALLY of Gamefowl enthusiasts promoting state's rights in regards to the legality of cockfighting. You keep saying he was at a "cockfight". That is just not true!
And also - you said Bevins thought it was "just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors". I'll ask again - can you provide a link to that? I bet that you cannot, because Bevin never expressed such an opinion.
Are you telling the truth - or are you telling a "Mitch"?
You're right. It wasn't an actual cockfight.
It was a bunch of cockfighters meeting to promote cockfighting. And Bevins had no clue (so he says) that he was at a cockfighting rally.
"Gamefowl enthusiasts." That's cute.
Cockfighters. And Bevins stepped in it by being in their company.
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You're right. It wasn't an actual cockfight.
It was a bunch of cockfighters meeting to promote cockfighting. And Bevins had no clue (so he says) that he was at a cockfighting rally.
"Gamefowl enthusiasts." That's cute.
Cockfighters. And Bevins stepped in it by being in their company.
Thanks for correcting your misstatement. It was a rally of 700 VOTERS. I'm sure if Bevin had it to do over, he might not have attended the rally - but I'm not going to say that he approves of cockfighting - I'll just say he approves of state's rights. I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that his staff set up his appearance and he didn't realize until he got there what it was about. I'm sure it could happen, especially when you are trying to reach as many people as you can.
Heck, even if he did know - I don't think that hurt him that much - it may have even have helped him in certain counties in the state. I know several people that go to cockfights and some who raise fighting cocks - there's big money in it and people would be surprised to know who participates in it. I don't like it, but the people that I know are what one would consider "respectable" and not your stereotypical toothless trailer park redneck.
Anyway, Bevin had a steep uphill climb to defeat a 30 year incumbent that holds a high position in the GOP. I think he did pretty good, considering. He got more than one out of three of the Republican vote in the state. Like I said, I hope he tries again.
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Well, of course they would do a much better job.....if by 'job' you mean STOP this "Transformation of America"....and if it means Michelle is full of baloney when you promised us that "We can NEVER go back to our lives they way it was before!"
This Administration is NOT incompetent. It is a willful attempt to tear down this country's traditions and greatness on the world stage. And an attempt to destroy Israel.
THAT's the beginning and the end of it.
"Incompetence" my butt.
Please give me an example of where this admin. is competent. 0bama has done nothing except give his czars free rein. Even his "signature achievement", 0bamacare, is something that he delegated to the dim Congress. He hasn't even torn down this country's traditions - he's just made us look like idiots by not ever doing anything. Empty promises and teleprompter remarks do not a policy make.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/05/Glenn-Beck-Matt-Bevin-Called-of-God?
Looks like God takes Tuesdays off.
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I doesn't matter. That is exactly what everyone knew would happen.
That is why I will support whichever Dem runs against him. "We will crush the Tea Party!" That kind of verbage tends to radicalize people. And there are more than just me.
Since nothing means anything anymore, why not vote Dem. As Clinton said, "What difference does it make!?"
Real Conservatives vote rat.
I'm pretty sure the GOP will take back the Senate in Nov...but if we don't, it's nice to know, I can still blame the Tea Party. Thanx 240B
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You know sink - you're coming awful close to lying about this yourself. I have to assume that since you provided the link - that you also read the article. It was NOT a cockfight! It was a RALLY of Gamefowl enthusiasts promoting state's rights in regards to the legality of cockfighting. You keep saying he was at a "cockfight". That is just not true!
And also - you said Bevins thought it was "just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors". I'll ask again - can you provide a link to that? I bet that you cannot, because Bevin never expressed such an opinion.
Are you telling the truth - or are you telling a "Mitch"?
Have you ever seen a cockfight?
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Please give me an example of where this admin. is competent. 0bama has done nothing except give his czars free rein. Even his "signature achievement", 0bamacare, is something that he delegated to the dim Congress. He hasn't even torn down this country's traditions - he's just made us look like idiots by not ever doing anything. Empty promises and teleprompter remarks do not a policy make.
My point is that all the pundits on the right say....either it's willful, or it's incompetence. And they all virtually say when pressed, it's the latter. Or they cover themselves by saying it's the latte.
NOBODY has the stones to say these out out and out Socialist Marxists in the vein of the Nazis. AND THEY CERTAINLY ARE!
Can anybody please name ONE thing this Administration has done that was better for our freedoms, economy or way of life?
And I'm not speaking about bridging the gap between the Middle Class and the poor. He's making more "poor" every month.
There are 11 MILLION on so called "disability"..in order to find that loophole so they can still obtain shelter, food and a cup of coffee after their unemployment subsidy ran out.
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Please give me an example of where this admin. is competent. 0bama has done nothing except give his czars free rein. Even his "signature achievement", 0bamacare, is something that he delegated to the dim Congress. He hasn't even torn down this country's traditions - he's just made us look like idiots by not ever doing anything. Empty promises and teleprompter remarks do not a policy make.
Furthermore....it's going to take a freaking generation...not interfered with...in order to get back to where we were in 2008.
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Can anybody please name ONE thing this Administration has done that was better for our freedoms, economy or way of life?
1. Making Bush taxcuts permanent
2. Sequester
Good Lord, I'm feeling dizzy now. I could make a longer list but it is not my nature to defend rats.
Others have made the case that Obama is not the most liberal (which I read as damaging) rat President...
http://www.obamatheconservative.com/
http://voteview.com/blog/?p=735
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What kind of "red state" elects a Democrat governor twice in a row?
It happens. Most of the "red states" have had Democrat governors from time to time. Even here in South Carolina. And of course look at the "blue states" that elect Republican governors, including New York, Massachusetts and California. Maybe people don't hold their governors and mayors to the same political construct they do in national elections.
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The TEA party has never been so much about winning elections as it is about moving the Republican party rightward and that they are doing!
36% of the vote going to the Tea Party candidate vs McConnell is pretty good, IMO...
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36% of the vote going to the Tea Party candidate vs McConnell is pretty good, IMO...
Pretty good tug for sure!
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And also - you said Bevins thought it was "just dandy to watch two roosters rip each other to shreds with razors". I'll ask again - can you provide a link to that? I bet that you cannot, because Bevin never expressed such an opinion.
The only way to stop gamecocks from killing each other is to eliminate the breed entirely.
They will fight each other to the death even when separated by a wire fence...
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36% of the vote going to the Tea Party candidate vs McConnell is pretty good, IMO...
Yeah....but once McConnell is THE candidate, a 'personal grudge' should be tossed in the can. The object is to not require another "Scott Brown" in the Senate.
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Yeah....but once McConnell is THE candidate, a 'personal grudge' should be tossed in the can. The object is to not require another "Scott Brown" in the Senate.
Actually, it's for each voter to decide whether they want to vote for the lesser of two evils...
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Actually, it's for each voter to decide whether they want to vote for the lesser of two evils...
Once Kentuckians get a good dose of that bug-eyed fool running against Mitch, it will be no contest.
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36% of the vote going to the Tea Party candidate vs McConnell is pretty good, IMO...
Not only that - but in Kentucky, you cannot vote in the primary unless you are a REGISTERED Republican or Democrat! It's the ONLY reason I have not taken my name off of the Republican party list - so that I can vote in the primary. My brother got mad at the GOP and changed his registration to Independent. He found out that he can't even vote for Sheriff anymore because he's not in the two-party monopoly in the state.
The point I'm getting at - is that there is a whole pile of people that LEFT the GOP, and maybe the Democrat party too - disgusted with them! THESE people were not allowed to vote yesterday in Ky. How many of these people are going to go out of their way to vote for McConnell this fall?
I'll say it again, getting more than one out of three Republican voters yesterday was pretty damned good for a political newcomer who is fighting the well-entrenched establishment system. It's a start, and it's a damn-good start!
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Once Kentuckians get a good dose of that bug-eyed fool running against Mitch, it will be no contest.
Her signs are popping up EVERYWHERE around here - overnight!
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Also, Kentucky - even though it went strongly against Obama (Obama hates coal - coal IS Kentucky) - Kentucky is a strongly Democrat state. Local politics almost always go in favor of the Dems. In fact, the general wisdom in my county is that even if you are a Republican - you RUN on the Democrat ticket, or you don't have a chance to win! We are outnumbered 6 to 1 in my county. That is why we usually have Democrat Governors too.
Why do we have two Republican Senators? :shrug:
When it comes to state and local matters - we like our good old boys. When it comes to the FEDS - we don't trust 'em! Maybe it's a throwback to those "Revenuers", the ones that busted all the liquor stills.
The Democrats have Ky in the cross-hairs, they see weakness in McConnell and smell blood in the water. They are going to dump huge resources here to try to get the Senate back in control. I don't think that you GOPe lovers should get too cocky just yet - it could backfire and I expect a lot of cheating to happen too.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/05/Glenn-Beck-Matt-Bevin-Called-of-God?
Looks like God takes Tuesdays off.
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Nope. Anyone that knows God knows that the Sabbath is his day of rest. Also, anyone that knows God knows that he will not be mocked!
Oh, you're mocking Glenn Beck - not God - right? Because Beck called Bevin a "Man of God"? Right? And because Bevin lost - God must have taken the day off, right? LOL!!! You made a funny joke! So clever, you killed two birds with one joke on that one - Beck and Bevin! You're so funny.
I happen to think Matt Bevin is a good Christian man - a man of God. I'll tell you something else - I remember when McCain was running against Obama, a group of us on Free Republic started a prayer network, where we each agreed to take a certain 30 minute time slot of dedicated prayers for John McCain. Mind you, I HATE John McCain, but for me - it was prayers for the future of my country.
I did that and was blown away at what I gained spiritually by doing that. I absolutely felt that my prayers connected to God and I actually FELT his presence while I was doing it - STRONGLY! I believe it was because there were many of us doing it at the same time and non-stop in a network.
Well, as everyone knows - McCain lost. Does that mean that God let us down? That he didn't hear our prayers? That we were not "Men and Women of God"? A lot of snarky people would say just that.
But no, it was revealed to me that Obama winning was part of the greater plan, and of God's will. This is something that must be played out in order for God's plan to be instituted. What I came to realize through my earnest prayers was that I was praying for God's will to be done (thinking Obama losing was God's will), now I know that the prayers helped me to accept God's will. And I do.
America has brought herself to this point, she has turned her back on God and he will NOT be mocked and he will turn his back on us at a certain point. I believe we have reached that point where the cycle has got to finish itself. I don't think we can stop it now. It will get bad, very bad for us before it will start to turn around.
Does that mean we should just stop praying and give up? Nope. We still need to be warriors for God, we still need to live everyday like we're going to live 100 years and we still need - ESPECIALLY now - to stay strong in our desire to discern and do God's will. Now, more than ever!
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No disrespect intended here, but what you did was to find justification and 'meaning' in your futile efforts.
Another take on "making lemonade from lemons", IMO.
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Have you ever seen a cockfight?
Nope. And I never will. Don't like it - I love all animals, why would I want to watch them fight to the death? I didn't even like to watch Wild Kingdom when I was a kid for that very reason. But, in nature - fighting cocks will do just that - fight to the death. That there are people that like to raise fighting cocks like "thoroughbreds" and bet a lot of money cheering them on - is distasteful to me.
But don't try to "red herring" me into a debate on cockfighting. It won't work with me. The point at issue was that Sinkspur made some remarks that turned out not to be true - not that I was defending cockfighting. :seeya:
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No disrespect intended here, but what you did was to find justification and 'meaning' in your futile efforts.
Another take on "making lemonade from lemons", IMO.
I'm not clear on your remark DC - was it directed at me? If it was, yeah - making lemonade out of lemons - is what I do! Remember, I'm the eternal dreamer - the optimist! I'll always pull something positive out of bad things. It makes me feel better and able to see the bigger picture - here's another one - it's always darkest before the dawn!
I love lemonade and I love sunrises. :beer:
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Nope. And I never will. Don't like it - I love all animals, why would I want to watch them fight to the death? I didn't even like to watch Wild Kingdom when I was a kid for that very reason. But, in nature - fighting cocks will do just that - fight to the death. That there are people that like to raise fighting cocks like "thoroughbreds" and bet a lot of money cheering them on - is distasteful to me.
But don't try to "red herring" me into a debate on cockfighting. It won't work with me. The point at issue was that Sinkspur made some remarks that turned out not to be true - not that I was defending cockfighting. :seeya:
I saw some as a kid in Cuba.
I'm not trying to engage you into a debate on cockfighting. It is disgusting and disturbing act.
i don't know that painting it with a brush of "State's rights" makes it any less disgusting.
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and now, for better or worse, it's time to close ranks and go with what we got. Bevin lost, fair and square, so there is only one choice facing every republican in Kentucky: vote for the republican directly, or stay home and vote for the democrat indirectly. It's not a matter of telling anyone to shut up and learn their place, it's time for everyone who cares about this country to assume their rightful place and push back against the democrats.
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and now, for better or worse, it's time to close ranks and go with what we got. Bevin lost, fair and square, so there is only one choice facing every republican in Kentucky: vote for the republican directly, or stay home and vote for the democrat indirectly. It's not a matter of telling anyone to shut up and learn their place, it's time for everyone who cares about this country to assume their rightful place and push back against the democrats.
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Also, Kentucky - even though it went strongly against Obama (Obama hates coal - coal IS Kentucky) - Kentucky is a strongly Democrat state. Local politics almost always go in favor of the Dems. In fact, the general wisdom in my county is that even if you are a Republican - you RUN on the Democrat ticket, or you don't have a chance to win! We are outnumbered 6 to 1 in my county. That is why we usually have Democrat Governors too.
Why do we have two Republican Senators? :shrug:
When it comes to state and local matters - we like our good old boys. When it comes to the FEDS - we don't trust 'em! Maybe it's a throwback to those "Revenuers", the ones that busted all the liquor stills.
The Democrats have Ky in the cross-hairs, they see weakness in McConnell and smell blood in the water. They are going to dump huge resources here to try to get the Senate back in control. I don't think that you GOPe lovers should get too cocky just yet - it could backfire and I expect a lot of cheating to happen too.
You WANT McConnell to lose, and he's never lost an election. And he won't lose this one. By the time Mitch and Rove's Crossroads and the RNC get through with Grimes, she'll be a flighty, flaky broad with Obamacare and the VA scandal tied around her neck.
She IS Barack Obama.
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and now, for better or worse, it's time to close ranks and go with what we got. Bevin lost, fair and square, so there is only one choice facing every republican in Kentucky: vote for the republican directly, or stay home and vote for the democrat indirectly. It's not a matter of telling anyone to shut up and learn their place, it's time for everyone who cares about this country to assume their rightful place and push back against the democrats.
:thumbsup2:
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Actually, it's for each voter to decide whether they want to vote for the lesser of two evils...
Yes, it certainly is!
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Nope. Anyone that knows God knows that the Sabbath is his day of rest. Also, anyone that knows God knows that he will not be mocked!
Oh, you're mocking Glenn Beck - not God - right? Because Beck called Bevin a "Man of God"? Right? And because Bevin lost - God must have taken the day off, right? LOL!!! You made a funny joke! So clever, you killed two birds with one joke on that one - Beck and Bevin! You're so funny.
I happen to think Matt Bevin is a good Christian man - a man of God. I'll tell you something else - I remember when McCain was running against Obama, a group of us on Free Republic started a prayer network, where we each agreed to take a certain 30 minute time slot of dedicated prayers for John McCain. Mind you, I HATE John McCain, but for me - it was prayers for the future of my country.
I did that and was blown away at what I gained spiritually by doing that. I absolutely felt that my prayers connected to God and I actually FELT his presence while I was doing it - STRONGLY! I believe it was because there were many of us doing it at the same time and non-stop in a network.
Well, as everyone knows - McCain lost. Does that mean that God let us down? That he didn't hear our prayers? That we were not "Men and Women of God"? A lot of snarky people would say just that.
But no, it was revealed to me that Obama winning was part of the greater plan, and of God's will. This is something that must be played out in order for God's plan to be instituted. What I came to realize through my earnest prayers was that I was praying for God's will to be done (thinking Obama losing was God's will), now I know that the prayers helped me to accept God's will. And I do.
America has brought herself to this point, she has turned her back on God and he will NOT be mocked and he will turn his back on us at a certain point. I believe we have reached that point where the cycle has got to finish itself. I don't think we can stop it now. It will get bad, very bad for us before it will start to turn around.
Does that mean we should just stop praying and give up? Nope. We still need to be warriors for God, we still need to live everyday like we're going to live 100 years and we still need - ESPECIALLY now - to stay strong in our desire to discern and do God's will. Now, more than ever!
Thank You for this post Alice. With absolutely no hesitation whatsoever, I have to tell you that it is the most inspiring and uplifting post that I have read on any message board in many years. Thank You, so so much!!
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/05/Glenn-Beck-Matt-Bevin-Called-of-God?
Looks like God takes Tuesdays off.
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that was a dumb thing to say
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Thank You for this post Alice. With absolutely no hesitation whatsoever, I have to tell you that it is the most inspiring and uplifting post that I have read on any message board in many years. Thank You, so so much!!
Thanks for your supportive words, Katz. We know how this all ends, we've already read the book! :amen:
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Nope. Anyone that knows God knows that the Sabbath is his day of rest. Also, anyone that knows God knows that he will not be mocked!
The Jews observe Sabbath on Saturn's Day, and Christians observe it on Sunday...or at least after about 300ad the Catholic Church mandated it. But the Sabbath is just resting on the seventh day after six days of work. So it is permissible to observe the Sabbath on Tew's Day, or Woden's Day, or Thor's Day, or Freya's Day.
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2000/02/Observing-The-Sabbath-On-Tuesday.aspx
As far as mocking God, I think Beck did that first when he urged people to vote for a politician as part of "God's will."
And I'm pretty sure God has a good sense of humor. I'll find out when I see him.
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and now, for better or worse, it's time to close ranks and go with what we got. Bevin lost, fair and square, so there is only one choice facing every republican in Kentucky: vote for the republican directly, or stay home and vote for the democrat indirectly. It's not a matter of telling anyone to shut up and learn their place, it's time for everyone who cares about this country to assume their rightful place and push back against the democrats.
Exactly.
Wish in one hand and spit in the other - all you have is a hand full of spit. The choice is this or that. Simple. I choose R.
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Exactly.
Wish in one hand and spit in the other - all you have is a hand full of spit. The choice is this or that. Simple. I choose R.
Right there with you, brother! :beer:
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I believe God is sitting this mess out.
If anyone is waiting for God to save our sorry asses, get ready for a Hillary presidency in 2016.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ and now, for better or worse, it's time to close ranks and go with what we got. Bevin lost, fair and square, so there is only one choice facing every republican in Kentucky: vote for the republican directly, or stay home and vote for the democrat indirectly. It's not a matter of telling anyone to shut up and learn their place, it's time for everyone who cares about this country to assume their rightful place and push back against the democrats. ]]
This is what you GOP-e guys have been telling us since Reagan left office.
That is, keep doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over (had enough yet?) again -- yet expect different results.
It ain't gonna be me any longer, no mo', no suh.
There is a third choice. It involves more pain "up front", but may be required to push the issues to the public consciousness in the only way that many citizens are able to understand.
That is, to simply withhold the vote for the RINO "business-as-usual-as-the-world-crumbles-around-us" Republicans. Let them fall.
It may bring perhaps ten to twenty years of a democratic "reign of terror", but that will be what's needed before citizens finally wake up to what they've been doing wrong.
Or maybe they won't wake up at all.
To get back to Kentucky:
Mr. McConnell may have won the primary, but the election this time around may be a different story. In an election year that favors Republican victories, his may end up becoming one of the few losses. We shall see.