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Title: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: rangerrebew on June 07, 2019, 04:15:33 pm
Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill

By Caleb Parke

Published June 07, 2019
Fox News

An Illinois bishop who calls an abortion bill passed by the state legislature "extreme" issued a decree Thursday that no lawmakers who supported it will be able to receive communion for "promoting the abominable crime and very grave sin of abortion."

Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan and state Senate President John Cullerton, both Catholics who pushed for The Reproductive Health Act, a sweeping abortion rights bill that repeals several restrictions on abortions, have been banned from partaking in the sacrament of communion at Mass in the Springfield diocese.
 

https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/illinois-abortion-bishop-bans-lawmakers-communion (https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/illinois-abortion-bishop-bans-lawmakers-communion)

 
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: txradioguy on June 07, 2019, 07:38:10 pm
Good!
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: Wingnut on June 07, 2019, 07:45:05 pm
Good!

San Fran Nan should be on the No Communion list also along with a few dozen other CINO's in congress.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: txradioguy on June 07, 2019, 07:47:01 pm
San Fran Nan should be on the No Communion list also along with a few dozen other CINO's in congress.

The Vatican has already told her she can't take communion.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 07, 2019, 11:45:17 pm
Banned from communion is a minor issue with these types.

If you want the punishment to have meat, one needs to excommunicate instead.

Politicians will realize they lose all the credibility of being Catholic if they are no longer of that faith.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 08, 2019, 12:00:37 am
Banned from communion is a minor issue with these types.

If you want the punishment to have meat, one needs to excommunicate instead.

Politicians will realize they lose all the credibility of being Catholic if they are no longer of that faith.
I agree, but this is a good first step.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: The_Reader_David on June 08, 2019, 01:01:12 am


@IsailedawayfromFR

Excommunicated means banned from communion.  I think you mean anathematized instead.  (And I agree, they should be anathematized.)
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 08, 2019, 01:28:36 am

@IsailedawayfromFR

Excommunicated means banned from communion.  I think you mean anathematized instead.  (And I agree, they should be anathematized.)
Although I am no authority, I did run across this article in the National Catholic Register which presumably is which says otherwise. See bullett 2 http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/has-the-vatican-excommunicated-nancy-pelosi-8-things-to-know-and-share (http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/has-the-vatican-excommunicated-nancy-pelosi-8-things-to-know-and-share)

I wonder why the article does not indicate the bishop ever said the word excommunication?

And I like the term anathematized.  Condemnation is what is deserving.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: verga on June 08, 2019, 02:47:04 am
The problem with "banned from communion" is that it is limited to the local diocese. If instead they are excommunicated, or anathematized that is world wide.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: verga on June 08, 2019, 02:47:12 am
The problem with "banned from communion" is that it is limited to the local diocese. Other bishops do not have to follow it. It is a good idea for them to, but they are not bound by it. If instead they are excommunicated, or anathematized that is world wide.
Title: Re: Illinois bishop: No communion for lawmakers who backed ‘abominable’ abortion bill
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 08, 2019, 12:53:10 pm
The problem with "banned from communion" is that it is limited to the local diocese. If instead they are excommunicated, or anathematized that is world wide.
I now see the difference.  Thanks for clarification.