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Title: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 29, 2023, 02:34:12 pm
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Florida’s Republican-led Legislature has approved a bill clarifying that Gov. Ron DeSantis may run for president in 2024 while keeping his current position.

In a party-line vote of 76-34 on Friday, the Florida House approved an amended version of SB 7050, which includes a provision that explicitly exempts anyone running for president or vice president from the existing “resign-to-run” requirements.

The bill has already passed Florida Senate by a vote of 28-12 and now heads to the governor’s desk for his signature.

“Any person seeking the office of president or vice president of the United States is not subject to the requirements of [Florida election law], which govern candidate qualifying, specifically those which require the submission of certain documents, full and public disclosures of financial interests, petition signatures, or the payment of filing fees,” the bill reads. “This section shall take effect upon this act becoming a law.”

https://www.ntd.com/florida-legislature-clears-way-for-desantis-to-run-for-president-without-resigning_916335.html
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on April 29, 2023, 02:58:31 pm
Good, this was coming for awhile. 

We'll see if DeSantis indeed intends to run.  If he does, I hope he waits till the very last minute to make that announcement.  It will eliminate some of the mudslinging and ridiculous accusations and bullying that Trump will certainly throw at him.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Kamaji on April 29, 2023, 03:32:28 pm
Good, this was coming for awhile. 

We'll see if DeSantis indeed intends to run.  If he does, I hope he waits till the very last minute to make that announcement.  It will eliminate some of the mudslinging and ridiculous accusations and bullying that Trump will certainly throw at him.

:thumbsup:

Meanwhile, Trump will continue to let his paranoia get the best of him, and continue to say and do stupid, liberal, things.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: catfish1957 on April 29, 2023, 03:41:55 pm
I hope and pray that  RDS can fend off the Trump/Stone/Pecker slime machine that was so effectively employed in '16.

If there is anything that Trump is good at, is destroying an opponent whether it is in business or politics by lies and innuendo. 

How bad is Trump?  Cruz was almost beat in '18, after the Lyin' Ted meme was so effectiely smeared, and applied.  It sticks even today at havens of Orange whackos like TOS.

Trump is human excrement.  No vote from me.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 01:39:46 pm
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Any person seeking the office of president or vice president of the United States is not subject to the requirements of Florida election law


Any state officeholder seeking the office of US Representative or US Senator still must resign to run.

This DeSantis guy sure has a hefty sense of entitlement.  Buyer beware.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: GtHawk on May 04, 2023, 06:05:28 pm


Any state officeholder seeking the office of US Representative or US Senator still must resign to run.

This DeSantis guy sure has a hefty sense of entitlement.  Buyer beware.
This coming from the head cheerleader of the king of entitlement :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Kamaji on May 04, 2023, 06:08:59 pm


Any state officeholder seeking the office of US Representative or US Senator still must resign to run.

This DeSantis guy sure has a hefty sense of entitlement.  Buyer beware.


/snicker

It has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with the considered judgment - by the people of Florida, as expressed through their elected representatives - that the governor of Florida should be permitted to stand for another office as a candidate without having to immediately resign as governor.

That is an entirely reasonable conclusion that was arrived at through the representative process.

It is a far, far cry from Trump's painfully obvious sense of entitlement, given that to all appearances he believes that he should be handed the GOP nomination - and perhaps the presidency itself - by acclamation.

The only one suffering from an overwhelming sense of entitlement is Trump, and woe indeed unto us if we as a country are stupid enough to entrust the presidency to him a second time.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Free Vulcan on May 04, 2023, 06:12:53 pm
This DeSantis guy sure has a hefty sense of entitlement.  Buyer beware.

Sniff, sniff - I smell fear. Even Trump's own people know Trump is scared of RDS.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 09:51:14 pm
This coming from the head cheerleader of the king of entitlement

Are you capable of discussing DeSantis without running to your opinion of Trump ---- ever?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 04, 2023, 09:54:09 pm
/snicker

It has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with the considered judgment - by the people of Florida, as expressed through their elected representatives - that the governor of Florida should be permitted to stand for another office as a candidate without having to immediately resign as governor.

That is an entirely reasonable conclusion that was arrived at through the representative process.

It is a far, far cry from Trump's painfully obvious sense of entitlement, given that to all appearances he believes that he should be handed the GOP nomination - and perhaps the presidency itself - by acclamation.

The only one suffering from an overwhelming sense of entitlement is Trump, and woe indeed unto us if we as a country are stupid enough to entrust the presidency to him a second time.

 goopo :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 10:01:27 pm
It has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with the considered judgment -

Bullshit.

DeSantis asked for and will sign a carve out law protecting his, and only his, personal political interest and personal financial security.

This law serves only DeSantis's privilege and special treatment ------ the very essence of entitlement.


cc:  @libertybele



Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 04, 2023, 10:08:55 pm
Bullshit.

DeSantis asked for and will sign a carve out law protecting his, and only his, personal political interest and personal financial security.

This law serves only DeSantis's privilege and special treatment ------ the very essence of entitlement.


cc:  @libertybele


....and you would have us believe the State of Florida is the only state that has done this ????  Do you think that other governors, senators, etc., haven't done this??? 

DeSantis does have the advantage of a mostly conservative legislature.  :shrug:

 :silly:

I'm beginning to think that DeSantis now has an efficiency apartment in your head 24/7.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 10:28:09 pm

....and you would have us believe the State of Florida is the only state that has done this ???? 

 :silly:

libertybele

Are you saying "conservatives" support special entitlements for selected officeholders?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Wingnut on May 04, 2023, 10:33:20 pm
Bullshit.

DeSantis asked for and will sign a carve out law protecting his, and only his, personal political interest and personal financial security.

This law serves only DeSantis's privilege and special treatment ------ the very essence of entitlement.




You suck at the Ironing.  The very essence of the Orange Baboons existence is entitlement and privilege.  He likes to grab pu$$y, rape women, and get away with it.  Trump is Hunter Biden without the Meth.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 04, 2023, 10:35:29 pm
libertybele

Are you saying "conservatives" support special entitlements for selected officeholders?

Nowhere in my posts did I ever say that.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: bigheadfred on May 04, 2023, 10:37:17 pm
Bullshit.

DeSantis asked for and will sign a carve out law protecting his, and only his, personal political interest and personal financial security.

This law serves only DeSantis's privilege and special treatment ------ the very essence of entitlement.


cc:  @libertybele

A minimum of research tells me only five states have run to resign laws. Florida being one. They changed their law in 2018 and now they are changing it back.

FWIW, don't look at it as an entitlement for DeSantis. Look at it as a safety net for him when Trump hands him ass (if he runs).
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Wingnut on May 04, 2023, 10:43:10 pm
Nowhere in my posts did I ever say that.

Don't worry.  RiV is a Trump seagull sycophant.  Swoops in. Shits all over the DeSantis posts. Lets the mods clean the mess she creates.  Flys away.   A True Trumpdividian
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 10:47:35 pm
The very essence of the Orange Baboons existence is entitlement and privilege. 

What law did President Trump sign that was designed to only protect his personal political interest and only his personal financial security; serving only his privilege and special interest?   (The essence of entitlement)
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 10:51:29 pm
Nowhere in my posts did I ever say that.

I asked you a  question @libertybele ---- to clarify.  Here's the question again: Are you saying "conservatives" support special entitlements for selected officeholders?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2023, 10:53:40 pm
Don't worry.  RiV is a Trump seagull sycophant.  A True Trumpdividian

Feel better?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 04, 2023, 11:01:36 pm
I asked you a  question @libertybele ---- to clarify.  Here's the question again: Are you saying "conservatives" support special entitlements for selected officeholders?

No, I did not say that.

So ... while we're on the matter of questions ... and I believe it's now the 4th time I have asked, are you ok with Rams being president when neither of his parents were born in this country?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Hoodat on May 04, 2023, 11:25:40 pm
I asked you a  question @libertybele ---- to clarify.  Here's the question again: Are you saying "conservatives" support special entitlements for selected officeholders?

Speaking of unanswered questions:

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,498339.msg2823539.html#msg2823539

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,498339.msg2823852.html#msg2823852

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,498339.msg2823988.html#msg2823988
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: GtHawk on May 05, 2023, 08:02:51 am
Are you capable of discussing DeSantis without running to your opinion of Trump ---- ever?
I simply take my cue from you, sorry I didn't use an emoji :silly: And remember you can always put me on Ignore. Truthfully I don't put you on ignore because of all your other wonderful posts, but I am seriously put off by your almost religious worship of Trump, you refuse to acknowledge the stupid things he says or does which makes and only.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Kamaji on May 05, 2023, 09:01:45 am
Bullshit.

DeSantis asked for and will sign a carve out law protecting his, and only his, personal political interest and personal financial security.

This law serves only DeSantis's privilege and special treatment ------ the very essence of entitlement.


cc:  @libertybele





Bullshit right back at you, you pathetic shill. 

Did the people of the State of Florida, through their duly elected representatives, agree that it was a reasonable thing to do?

Yes or no. It’s a very simple question. Can you answer it?  Until you do, STFU and keep your head wedged firmly up Trump’s fat lazy a$$.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 05, 2023, 07:05:13 pm
Bullshit right back at you, you pathetic shill. 

Did the people of the State of Florida, through their duly elected representatives, agree that it was a reasonable thing to do?

Yes or no. It’s a very simple question. Can you answer it?  Until you do, STFU and keep your head wedged firmly up Trump’s fat lazy a$$.

Was allowing the governor to turn the state government into his personal playround on the ballot @Kamaji ?

If the answer isn't "yes",  I suggest *you* STFU and stop trying to defend the indefensible.



Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Kamaji on May 05, 2023, 07:19:52 pm
Was allowing the governor to turn the state government into his personal playround on the ballot @Kamaji ?

If the answer isn't "yes",  I suggest *you* STFU and stop trying to defend the indefensible.






:mauslaff:

Alright, smartpants, either (a) spell out, in clear, irrefutable proof, how DeSantis has turned "the state government into his personal playround" (your words, and your stupid misspelling, Ms. smartypants), or (b) STFU and go find some other forum to waste bandwidth on with your incessant ass-kissing of the Great Orange Disaster.

All that was on the ballot was a measure to amend Florida's resign-to-run law to permit the governor to run for another office without having to resign as governor.

Only a f**king idiot with her head stuffed so far up an Orange Ass that she can taste what he had for lunch that day would think that such a measure was turning "the state government into his personal playround".

Donald Trump is clearly paranoid, and terrified that someone like DeSantis, who doesn't take guff from liberals, is going to call him on the carpet like the spoilt child he is for all of his liberal misconduct in office - blowing the debt out by several trillion dollars, going along with the medico-fascists in the CDC, and now flouncing around with his lies about Social Security and plans for socialist "freedom cities" all paint him as a liberal.  And you're merrily wallowing away in his wake, willing to do the grunt work of being a lying PoS propagandist.

DU is much more your style.  Perhaps you should decamp for those environs.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 05, 2023, 07:58:48 pm

:mauslaff:

Alright, smartpants, either (a) spell out, in clear, irrefutable proof, how DeSantis has turned "the state government into his personal playround" (your words, and your stupid misspelling, Ms. smartypants), or (b) STFU and go find some other forum to waste bandwidth on with your incessant ass-kissing of the Great Orange Disaster.

All that was on the ballot was a measure to amend Florida's resign-to-run law to permit the governor to run for another office without having to resign as governor.

Only a f**king idiot with her head stuffed so far up an Orange Ass that she can taste what he had for lunch that day would think that such a measure was turning "the state government into his personal playround".

Donald Trump is clearly paranoid, and terrified that someone like DeSantis, who doesn't take guff from liberals, is going to call him on the carpet like the spoilt child he is for all of his liberal misconduct in office - blowing the debt out by several trillion dollars, going along with the medico-fascists in the CDC, and now flouncing around with his lies about Social Security and plans for socialist "freedom cities" all paint him as a liberal.  And you're merrily wallowing away in his wake, willing to do the grunt work of being a lying PoS propagandist.

DU is much more your style.  Perhaps you should decamp for those environs.

 :2popcorn: :pop41: ***wine
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: bigheadfred on May 05, 2023, 08:35:34 pm
:2popcorn: :pop41: ***wine

I was thinking of starting a thread: The Dumping Ground.
Reference the object of your adoration or angst with:
Talking
Debating
Yelling
Shouting
Screaming
Swearing
Name calling
Sacrificing each others first born

And...

A link to the thread you wanted to hijack.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: sneakypete on May 05, 2023, 09:39:27 pm
Good, this was coming for awhile. 

We'll see if DeSantis indeed intends to run.  If he does, I hope he waits till the very last minute to make that announcement.  It will eliminate some of the mudslinging and ridiculous accusations and bullying that Trump will certainly throw at him.

@libertybele

Good to see you admit that DeSantis couldn't stand up to what you and others like you enjoy being inflicted on Trump.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: sneakypete on May 05, 2023, 09:40:18 pm
:thumbsup:

Meanwhile, Trump will continue to let his paranoia get the best of him, and continue to say and do stupid, liberal, things.

@Kamaji

It's not paranoia if it is true.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: sneakypete on May 05, 2023, 09:42:22 pm
/snicker

It has nothing to do with entitlement and everything to do with the considered judgment - by the people of Florida, as expressed through their elected representatives - that the governor of Florida should be permitted to stand for another office as a candidate without having to immediately resign as governor.

 

@Kamaji

Happy to get rid of him  while blaming it on the Rude Orange Man?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 05, 2023, 09:44:13 pm
@libertybele

Good to see you admit that DeSantis couldn't stand up to what you and others like you enjoy being inflicted on Trump.

???? What are you talking about -- enjoy being inflicted on Trump???  Where oh where or when did I ever say that @sneakypete?
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: sneakypete on May 05, 2023, 09:47:39 pm
???? What are you talking about -- enjoy being inflicted on Trump???  Where oh where or when did I ever say that @sneakypete?

@libertybele

Said or implied in practically every post you make on politics.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: libertybele on May 05, 2023, 09:50:30 pm
@libertybele

Said or implied in practically every post you make on politics.

What?????? Wow. Perhaps that is how you interpret what I have posted. Examples please. 
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 05, 2023, 09:54:56 pm
Quote from: Kamaji link=topic=498209.msg2826380#msg2826380 date=168331439[/quote
All that was on the ballot was a measure to amend Florida's resign-to-run law to permit the governor to run for another office without having to resign as governor.

Really?  Prove it.   88devil

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Only a f**king idiot with her head stuffed so far up an Orange Ass that she can taste what he had for lunch that day would think that such a measure was turning "the state government into his personal playround".

So far, DeSantis has protected his, and only his, day job so he can lose the primaries and still afford to buy food when it's finally over  ---- and exempted himself from Florida's long-standing Sunshine Laws.  If this isn't turning the statehouse into his personal playground, what would YOU call it?

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Donald Trump is clearly paranoid, and terrified that someone like DeSantis, who doesn't take guff from liberals, is going to call him on the carpet like the spoilt child he is for all of his liberal misconduct in office - blowing the debt out by several trillion dollars, going along with the medico-fascists in the CDC, and now flouncing around with his lies about Social Security and plans for socialist "freedom cities" all paint him as a liberal.  And you're merrily wallowing away in his wake, willing to do the grunt work of being a lying PoS propagandist.

Your panic-driven atempt at deflection with shovels-full of bullshit is predictable and stale.  But, please don't stop embarrassing yourself for me.

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DU is much more your style.  Perhaps you should decamp for those environs.

I'm right where I need to be.
Title: Re: Florida Legislature Clears Way for DeSantis to Run for President Without Resigning
Post by: Kamaji on May 05, 2023, 10:09:39 pm
@Kamaji

Happy to get rid of him  while blaming it on the Rude Orange Man?

@sneakypete

Get rid of whom?  And I don't care if Trump is rude - I care about the fact that he can't do anything constructive with his rudeness.  He's like a real estate agent or used car salesman who can't convert a sales pitch to a closed sale.

And most of the things he gets credited for during his presidency are not, in fact, due to anything he did.  The three conservative justices on the Supreme Court?  That was the work of McConnell and the Federalist Society, and Trump's role was limited to following the orders given to him by McConnell and not f**king things up by trying to pretend he knew better about appointing S.C. justices.

The 2017 tax cuts?  Those were the work of a number of Congressional busy-bees, and IRS/Treasury personnel, not Mr. Trump.

And as for things that were Mr. Trump's ideas?  Where's that big beautiful wall?  Not there, because he couldn't build a coalition strong enough to get it done; instead, he relied on executive orders and accounting trickery to start work on it, which was promptly undone when Biden got into office.

Face it, Trump is the antithesis of a real leader like Reagan.  Reagan didn't really care who got the credit, so long as his goals were accomplished.  Trump just wants all the credit, and he's not too fastidious about whose goals get accomplished along the way.

So no, I don't give a rat's a$$ about Rude Orange Man, I give a whole lot about the fact that he was fairly incompetent, and largely ineffective at anything other than making liberals yowl - but without a political coalition willing to go along with him, those yowls don't do anything other than galvanize libs/dems to oppose him even more strongly than before.

Gov. DeSantis, on the other hand, has managed to build himself a decent political coalition that continues to move the ball forward on his terms.

And yammering about how Trump didn't have the support of Congress doesn't do anything other than demonstrate that Trump really was not a good leader at all.  His party - the republicans - had a majority in both the House and the Senate coming out of 2016, and he couldn't do jack-sh*t to convert that majority into anything useful.  He didn't get rid of Obamacare, he didn't get immigration reform done.  Instead, he applied his standard divisive management style to the office of the presidency and was incapable of building any sort of a coalition out of an actual majority in both houses.

That makes him a loser, period.  End of discussion.  And that wasn't anyone else's fault than his.

So, no, I don't want to go with a proven loser, who is just getting more paranoid and more liberal by the day; I want to go with a proven winner, who has demonstrated that he can get things done, even in the face of left-wing MSM resistance and intransigence.

DeSantis has already proven himself to be a better leader than Trump has ever been, and he - DeSantis - is just getting started.

So take your stupid Rude Orange Man trope and go pound sand.