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Title: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: rangerrebew on February 11, 2016, 09:55:56 am

Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’

The movement of Muslims, not a few of whom are radicalized, into Europe and the United States is a “planned invasion” for the “specific purpose of destroying Western Christendom,” said former House Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), who stressed that you do not see “this mass migration into Russia or into China” – it is “all headed toward Western Christendom.”

““We saw this mass migration, this people movement, which is a historic people movement of Muslims from Islamic nations tending to be the most radicalized nations -- from those nations into nations that are known as Western Christendom,” said Rep. Bachmann during a Feb. 6 interview [1] on the Understanding The Times with Jan Markell radio program.

“So, you don’t see this mass migration into Russia, or into China, or into Indonesia,” she said. “This mass migration is all headed toward Western Christendom.”

Bachmann then said Minnesota is expected to have its “highest level immigration” this year.

On the migration in general, she said, “The people that are coming in are not Christians, generally speaking, very, very few Christians that are being moved. It is primarily Muslims and only young men, 80% tend to be young men going into Europe right now, for instance, but they also come from the most radicalized Islamists.”

“This clearly is an invasion,” said the former congresswoman.  “This is a planned invasion, not only in Europe but also in the United States.”

“I believe for the specific purpose of destroying Western Christendom, because that has been the strength of the world, economically, but also the strength of the world in terms of leadership, the nations that are known as Western Christendom,” she said.

While in Congress, Bachmann had served on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which oversees the CIA, the NSA, and the entire federal intelligence community.

Bachmann continued in the interview, “I just want to give you one example. The Gatestone Institute [2]is a fabulous organization, and they had an article come out on the Islamization in France in 2015.

“We know that Angela Merkel, the chancellor of Germany, brought in 1.1 million Muslims last year, into Germany, just in Germany alone,” said Bachmann. “France already was further down the road, and this is a direct quote, ‘We are in a war with jihadist terrorism that threatens the entire world.’

“This is what the leader of France said, Hollande: The Muslim population of France, and I’m quoting from the Gatestone Institute, the Muslim population in France reached 6.5 million in 2015, 10% of the overall population,” she said. “In real terms, France has the largest Muslim population in the European Union, even more than Germany.”

“And then they [Gatestone Institute] go through an entire year of all the terror attacks, beginning with that Charlie Hebdo attack – when they went into a magazine and killed people and then they went to a synagogue and were killing Jews,” said Bachmann.

“All year long it’s been Islamic jihad 24/7, terrorist blood bath attacks 24/7,” she said.  “I just want to read one from this last December 2015: 70 employees at the two main airports in Paris – I’ve flown in and out of those airports at least a dozen times myself – nearly 70 employees of the two main airports in Paris had their security clearances revoked after they were identified as being Islamic extremists. In other words, they are true believers.”

“Here at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport, the FBI picked up four who were members of the Islamic State, at the Minneapolis airport,” said Bachmann. “The more that we bring people into Western Christian countries, Islamic sympathizers and true believers, the more we will continue to see this problem.”   

Michele Bachmann, 59, served four terms in the U.S. House of Representatives, from 2007 to 2015. Prior to that she was a member of the Minnesota Senate, from 2001 to 2007.  She holds a law degree, and she and her husband, Marcus Bachmann, have five children and have provided foster care to 23 other children over the years.
Source URL: http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/bachmann-muslim-migration-planned-invasion-purpose-destroying-western
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 11, 2016, 12:24:43 pm
It may be a problem, but it's not a "planned invasion".   That's hyperbole.   Most of the refugees are fleeing a civil war,  once that's claimed far more Muslim victims than non-Muslim ones.   
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: DCPatriot on February 11, 2016, 12:45:13 pm

It may be a problem, but it's not a "planned invasion".   That's hyperbole.   Most of the refugees are fleeing a civil war,  once that's claimed far more Muslim victims than non-Muslim ones.


Barack Obama bombed the sh*t out of Libya in a totally 'SECRET' campaign that was sold as "...just a couple of weeks".  (Lasted months)

We have absolutely no idea if planes carrying Middle Eastern refugees are in a constant procession 365/24/7 to any one of our national military bases, where they're processed and bused across America.

Proof?   They sure processed many thousands of 'children' from Central America who now are scattered everywhere.

It's a "planned invasion", jazzhead.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: raml on February 11, 2016, 07:22:12 pm
I agree that it is a planned invasion.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: katzenjammer on February 11, 2016, 07:26:33 pm
(http://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/bracken-boats.jpg)

Hat-tip: Matt Bracken
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 11, 2016, 07:34:45 pm
It is a planned invasion.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: alicewonders on February 11, 2016, 08:12:21 pm
Absolutely a planned invasion.

WHO is paying for these immigrant's new clothes, smartphones and the boats they come over on?

Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: 240B on February 11, 2016, 08:21:50 pm
The Muslims are not going into Russia, China, and Japan, because these nations are smart enough to not allow them in. They just said, no thanks. This is not something new. These nations have always restricted Muslim immigration well before Obama and his 'Arab Spring'. The Obama's Arab Spring was the beginning of all the chaos we are seeing now.


Also, ALL the Muslims nations, except I guess Turkey, are refusing them entry as well. The last thing the Muslim nations want are thousands of new terrorists and disruptors invading their country.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 11, 2016, 08:49:24 pm
They aren't going to China and Japan because those countries are too far away.

If Japan/China were on the other side of the Aegean, you'd better bet that those rubber rafts would be littering Japanese/Chinese beaches.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Scottftlc on February 11, 2016, 08:52:28 pm
They aren't going to China and Japan because those countries are too far away.

If Japan/China were on the other side of the Aegean, you'd better bet that those rubber rafts would be littering Japanese/Chinese beaches.

Yet we are going to be taking more and more here...just as far away as China and Japan.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 11, 2016, 08:56:10 pm
Yet we are going to be taking more and more here...just as far away as China and Japan.

By our government's invitation.  Note the difference.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 11, 2016, 08:57:13 pm
Absolutely a planned invasion.

WHO is paying for these immigrant's new clothes, smartphones and the boats they come over on?
who owns the smartphone company?
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 11, 2016, 09:17:29 pm
I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be Muslim?

I have no objection to our allowing refugees to come here, PROVIDED that we accept only whole, intact families.  The problem with the European migrants is that most of them are unattached males - and unattached males tend to commit the most crimes, be they brown, white, Christian or Muslim.   They tend to congregate with each other and don't assimilate.   Families have much more of an incentive to assimilate.     

Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Scottftlc on February 11, 2016, 09:21:50 pm
By our government's invitation.  Note the difference.

A difference that provides no solace.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: truth_seeker on February 11, 2016, 09:26:25 pm
I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be Muslim?

I have no objection to our allowing refugees to come here, PROVIDED that we accept only whole, intact families.  The problem with the European migrants is that most of them are unattached males - and unattached males tend to commit the most crimes, be they brown, white, Christian or Muslim.   They tend to congregate with each other and don't assimilate.   Families have much more of an incentive to assimilate.   
You are naïve about islam. We should not be admitting any more of them here, period for a considerable time into the future.

Europe has realized the error of letting them in, and is trying to reverse that with plans to push them out.

It is not our fault. We should not feel remorse. The muslims have done it to themselves, by their behavior.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 11, 2016, 09:28:06 pm
I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be Muslim?

 
Nope.......none whatsoever. the ones fighting Assad are sharia types. one more thing jazz....why are no Christians refugees going to Europe or here?  invasion pure and simple.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: truth_seeker on February 11, 2016, 09:44:54 pm
Here is something you won't hear much. I have known people here in the US that come from the Mideast, for over 40 years.

Muslims, Christians, Jews, Bahai. One thing they do which is keep quiet. If you know one pretty well, you will likely be hard pressed to get them to really open up about the situation in their homeland.

The reason I know this is because I have been trying to get them to open up for over 40 years. But when they will not, they do respond affirmatively that fear of reprisals, fear for loved ones back home, knowledge of how people in the region really are, knowledge that we expect freedom in the US, but they know we are totally naïve when it comes to understanding matters, over there.

Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: EdinVA on February 11, 2016, 09:45:41 pm
You are naïve about islam. We should not be admitting any more of them here, period for a considerable time into the future.

Europe has realized the error of letting them in, and is trying to reverse that with plans to push them out.

It is not our fault. We should not feel remorse. The muslims have done it to themselves, by their behavior.
:amen:
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Fishrrman on February 11, 2016, 10:06:15 pm
Jazzhead wrote above:
"It may be a problem, but it's not a "planned invasion"...."

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12688378_1105440309475408_6277750610073227272_n.jpg?oh=4d70b1f4ec3cd67924098935397c31e1&oe=573B0082)
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Fishrrman on February 11, 2016, 10:11:54 pm
Jazzhead wrote above:
"I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be muslim?"

Let the muslim world take care of its own, in "dar al-islam".

The only ones I care about are the Christian victims, who are being targeted and slaughtered as examples and without mercy.

Find someone else to care about the muslims.
I don't.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 11, 2016, 10:15:17 pm
Jazzhead wrote above:
"It may be a problem, but it's not a "planned invasion"...."

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12688378_1105440309475408_6277750610073227272_n.jpg?oh=4d70b1f4ec3cd67924098935397c31e1&oe=573B0082)
Jazz...where are the women and children in that boat?????? 
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 11, 2016, 10:19:23 pm
Jazzhead wrote above:
"I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be muslim?"

Let the muslim world take care of its own, in "dar al-islam".

The only ones I care about are the Christian victims, who are being targeted and slaughtered as examples and without mercy.

Find someone else to care about the muslims.
I don't.
:amen: 
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: aligncare on February 11, 2016, 11:04:12 pm

It's a planned invasion.

They are using fertility, procreation and population growth to eventually outnumber the Christian west, while the men slaughter, rape and create mayhem to drive the indigenous population out.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 12, 2016, 04:32:04 am
The Trumpsters are in full cry on this thread. 

No empathy,  no thought of these casualties of war and extremist atrocities as victims.   They're Muslims,  so their suffering is of no concern. 

No one is suggesting that we ought not carefully vet those seeking to come here.  As I suggested,  I'd favor accepting families, but not unattached young males. 

But a thread like this makes me shake my head.  We once elected a President on a platform of compassionate conservatism.  We thought we were on to something, even something revolutionary.   Guess that spirit has been snuffed for good,  replaced by the dark spirit of Trump.   
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sinkspur on February 12, 2016, 04:34:56 am
The Trumpsters are in full cry on this thread. 

No empathy,  no thought of these casualties of war and extremist atrocities as victims.   They're Muslims,  so their suffering is of no concern. 

No one is suggesting that we ought not carefully vet those seeking to come here.  As I suggested,  I'd favor accepting families, but not unattached young males. 

But a thread like this makes me shake my head.  We once elected a President on a platform of compassionate conservatism.  We thought we were on to something, even something revolutionary.   Guess that spirit has been snuffed for good,  replaced by the dark spirit of Trump.   

Remember, this is a tribal election. Us Versus Them. The lowest level of human consciousness.

White is "Us".  Everybody else is "Them."
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: truth_seeker on February 12, 2016, 04:59:54 am
The Trumpsters are in full cry on this thread. 

No empathy,  no thought of these casualties of war and extremist atrocities as victims.   They're Muslims,  so their suffering is of no concern. 

No one is suggesting that we ought not carefully vet those seeking to come here.  As I suggested,  I'd favor accepting families, but not unattached young males. 

But a thread like this makes me shake my head.  We once elected a President on a platform of compassionate conservatism.  We thought we were on to something, even something revolutionary.   Guess that spirit has been snuffed for good,  replaced by the dark spirit of Trump.   

Quite the opposite. Muslims are responsible for the impressions they have made in Europe and in the US, making them not welcome. In Europe they realize the errors of letting more of them in, and are reversing that and preparing to send them home.

You saw in the news recently how they molested women at Cologne on New Years? You have read whereby Sweden has become the rape capital?

What possesses you to blame Americans for the fact Americans have rolled up the welcome mat for just muslims, says a lot about your naïve attitude.

Fort Hood, muslims, San Bernardino muslims, DC sniper mulims, Boston marathon muslims.

The US government is too inept, for Americans to be safe from the muslim savages, so just keep them out.

You truly amaze me. Do you know a thing about their religion? About Takiyyah? About the fact it is okay to rape non-believers, because in islam a non-believer is subhuman. That they punish the female victims of their own rapes? About fathers murdering their daughters for "honor?" Do you know a thing about these matters?



Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 12, 2016, 12:30:46 pm
TS,  I know the difference between Islam and Islamofascism.   I want to destroy the latter utterly.  And I know that to do so, we need to enlist Muslims in the cause.  We shoot ourselves in the foot with hyperbolic rhetoric that conflates the innocent with the guilty, the peaceable with the violent,  and reinforces the Islamofascist narrative.   
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: DCPatriot on February 12, 2016, 12:34:58 pm
TS,  I know the difference between Islam and Islamofascism.   I want to destroy the latter utterly.  And I know that to do so, we need to enlist Muslims in the cause.  We shoot ourselves in the foot with hyperbolic rhetoric that conflates the innocent with the guilty, the peaceable with the violent,  and reinforces the Islamofascist narrative.   

Just want to remind you, Jazzhead, that Donald Trump's statement regarding banning all Muslims, included the phrase, "...until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/donald-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/donald-trumps-call-to-ban-muslim-immigrants/419298/)


Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: aligncare on February 12, 2016, 12:54:14 pm
TS,  I know the difference between Islam and Islamofascism.   I want to destroy the latter utterly.  And I know that to do so, we need to enlist Muslims in the cause.  We shoot ourselves in the foot with hyperbolic rhetoric that conflates the innocent with the guilty, the peaceable with the violent,  and reinforces the Islamofascist narrative.   

You have it bass ackwards. FIRST, Muslims must neuter the crazies among them, THEN we can talk about integrating Muslims in our predominantly Judeo-Christian nation--the population of which, a hefty portion of Muslims hate and want dead. But, we can talk about that after proper security is established.

Just as, FIRST we build the Southern wall, THEN we discuss sensible America-centric immigration policies.

See how that works?
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Jazzhead on February 12, 2016, 02:17:28 pm
You have it bass ackwards. FIRST, Muslims must neuter the crazies among them, THEN we can talk about integrating Muslims in our predominantly Judeo-Christian nation--the population of which, a hefty portion of Muslims hate and want dead. But, we can talk about that after proper security is established.

Just as, FIRST we build the Southern wall, THEN we discuss sensible America-centric immigration policies.

See how that works?

It doesn't work, period.  Placing preconditions is a time-honored tactic for doing nothing. 
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Relic on February 12, 2016, 02:27:46 pm
Nope.......none whatsoever. the ones fighting Assad are sharia types. one more thing jazz....why are no Christians refugees going to Europe or here?  invasion pure and simple.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 02:42:28 pm
It may be a problem, but it's not a "planned invasion".   That's hyperbole.   Most of the refugees are fleeing a civil war,  once that's claimed far more Muslim victims than non-Muslim ones.

I disagree. The whole thing works together like cogs in a machine. It's just too organized and efficient to be random.

Plus,I have a long-stated belief that it is the goal of the globalists to take over the west by creating anarchy that will lead to riots that will lead to the citizens screaming to the government to "Do something,do ANYTHING,BUT MAKE THE STREETS SAFE!" Which of course puts them in a situation where THEY are not responsible for declaring Martial Law and suspending the Constitution for "The Duration of the Emergency",but are merely doing their sworn duty of responding to the demands of the people to make them safe.

The problem is that the ONLY ones that will have the authority to declare the "emergency" is over are the very people who declared it,and if they do they are putting themselves out of power.

It will be the end of America,and I can assure you that once this happens fundie Muslims will no longer be a problem. Their funding,weapon shipments,food supplies,and money to pay the jihadists will disappear,and not long that the Jihad leadership will also disappear.

None of this is random. It is all a part of a long-term plan to create "One World Government,Inc",with the world controlled by the international bankers,who will be the New Royalty in the New Feudal System.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 02:46:06 pm
You have it bass ackwards. FIRST, Muslims must neuter the crazies among them, THEN we can talk about integrating Muslims in our predominantly Judeo-Christian nation--the population of which, a hefty portion of Muslims hate and want dead. But, we can talk about that after proper security is established.



Wrong. Islam is a slave culture not compatible with western cultures that believe in individual freedoms and self-determination. It is not even a religion,it is a ruling system of government. ALL we do when we invite any of them in to live with us is putting an enemy inside our walls.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: katzenjammer on February 12, 2016, 02:51:13 pm
I disagree. The whole thing works together like cogs in a machine. It's just too organized and efficient to be random.

Plus,I have a long-stated belief that it is the goal of the globalists to take over the west by creating anarchy that will lead to riots that will lead to the citizens screaming to the government to "Do something,do ANYTHING,BUT MAKE THE STREETS SAFE!" Which of course puts them in a situation where THEY are not responsible for declaring Martial Law and suspending the Constitution for "The Duration of the Emergency",but are merely doing their sworn duty of responding to the demands of the people to make them safe.

The problem is that the ONLY ones that will have the authority to declare the "emergency" is over are the very people who declared it,and if they do they are putting themselves out of power.

It will be the end of America,and I can assure you that once this happens fundie Muslims will no longer be a problem. Their funding,weapon shipments,food supplies,and money to pay the jihadists will disappear,and not long that the Jihad leadership will also disappear.

None of this is random. It is all a part of a long-term plan to create "One World Government,Inc",with the world controlled by the international bankers,who will be the New Royalty in the New Feudal System.

You're correct sneakypete.  That model that you reference is a form of the Hegelian Dialectic: Problem – Reaction – Solution.

This has been posted here before, but some may have missed it, it explains exactly what is going on in Europe: Bracken: Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2016 European Offensive (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/bracken-tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/)
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 03:00:27 pm
You're correct sneakypete.  That model that you reference is a form of the Hegelian Dialectic: Problem – Reaction – Solution.

This has been posted here before, but some may have missed it, it explains exactly what is going on in Europe: Bracken: Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2016 European Offensive (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/bracken-tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/)

Thanks for reminding me. I can never remember Hegelian Dialectic,so I just describe it.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Bigun on February 12, 2016, 03:19:09 pm
You're correct sneakypete.  That model that you reference is a form of the Hegelian Dialectic: Problem – Reaction – Solution.

This has been posted here before, but some may have missed it, it explains exactly what is going on in Europe: Bracken: Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2016 European Offensive (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/bracken-tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/)

BRAVO! 
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: 17 Oaks on February 12, 2016, 04:33:07 pm
You're correct sneakypete.  That model that you reference is a form of the Hegelian Dialectic: Problem – Reaction – Solution.

This has been posted here before, but some may have missed it, it explains exactly what is going on in Europe: Bracken: Tet, Take Two – Islam’s 2016 European Offensive (https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/11/29/bracken-tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/)
Read that piece, VERY GOOD all should read it!





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Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: aligncare on February 12, 2016, 04:40:28 pm
Wrong. Islam is a slave culture not compatible with western cultures that believe in individual freedoms and self-determination. It is not even a religion,it is a ruling system of government. ALL we do when we invite any of them in to live with us is putting an enemy inside our walls.

But they are already behind the wall, and the constitution protects the freedom of religious practice. And while some may see Islam as threatening--and it is--a significant portion of American Muslims just want to peacefully get along enjoying the same freedoms we all share.

Therein lies the dilemma.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: 17 Oaks on February 12, 2016, 04:58:50 pm
But they are already behind the wall, and the constitution protects the freedom of religious practice. And while some may see Islam as threatening--and it is--a significant portion of American Muslims just want to peacefully get along enjoying the same freedoms we all share.

Therein lies the dilemma.
I hear and read this all the time and while I believe it to an extent, this then BEGS the question:  When in the hell are you going to stand up against the radical LEADERSHIP!!!!!!  What is it, 1.1 BILLION Muslims and supposedly only a few are radicals, as in only a couple of %.  FINE, then the other 90+ % needs to step up and stop it and NOT accept them as the leadership!
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: aligncare on February 12, 2016, 05:05:28 pm
I hear and read this all the time and while I believe it to an extent, this then BEGS the question:  When in the hell are you going to stand up against the radical LEADERSHIP!!!!!!  What is it, 1.1 BILLION Muslims and supposedly only a few are radicals, as in only a couple of %.  FINE, then the other 90+ % needs to step up and stop it and NOT accept them as the leadership!

Yes, I understand. One of the reasons I support Donald Trump. I think he gets the threats we're facing and I feel he has my back.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: truth_seeker on February 12, 2016, 05:12:58 pm
TS,  I know the difference between Islam and Islamofascism.   I want to destroy the latter utterly.  And I know that to do so, we need to enlist Muslims in the cause.  We shoot ourselves in the foot with hyperbolic rhetoric that conflates the innocent with the guilty, the peaceable with the violent,  and reinforces the Islamofascist narrative.   
Are you familiar with the situation across Europe? The rape night New Years in Cologne? Sweden?

Are you familiar with discussions underway in Europe to return the refugees? They earned the boot.

We have no rational need for them. Leave them in the Mideast, or let them find some other place.

The muslims have no moral right to come to America, and Americans have no moral obligation to take them.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Scottftlc on February 12, 2016, 05:24:29 pm
I hear and read this all the time and while I believe it to an extent, this then BEGS the question:  When in the hell are you going to stand up against the radical LEADERSHIP!!!!!!  What is it, 1.1 BILLION Muslims and supposedly only a few are radicals, as in only a couple of %.  FINE, then the other 90+ % needs to step up and stop it and NOT accept them as the leadership!

The problem with Islam is that it is not only a small percentage - the leadership is what it is because it has the support of a large part of the population. Islam is not filled with "huddled masses wanting to be free".  These are populations that want Sharia - they want to practice it even here where, if they wanted, they could be free of it.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: 17 Oaks on February 12, 2016, 06:12:23 pm
The problem with Islam is that it is not only a small percentage - the leadership is what it is because it has the support of a large part of the population. Islam is not filled with "huddled masses wanting to be free".  These are populations that want Sharia - they want to practice it even here where, if they wanted, they could be free of it.
I am AFRAID you are right...
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Bigun on February 12, 2016, 06:23:39 pm
I am AFRAID you are right...

There is NO doubt about it!  They ALL only read one book and that book is anything bu peaceful!
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 08:45:35 pm
But they are already behind the wall, and the constitution protects the freedom of religious practice.
Therein lies the dilemma.
Since Islam isn't a religion,there is no conflict.

Yeah,I know that some people CALL it a religion,but that doesn't make it a religion anymore than calling Bruce Jenner "Caitlin" makes him a woman.

ISLAM IS A FORM OF POLICE STATE GOVERNMENT,BASED ON SLAVERY.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 08:48:23 pm
The problem with Islam is that it is not only a small percentage - the leadership is what it is because it has the support of a large part of the population. Islam is not filled with "huddled masses wanting to be free".  These are populations that want Sharia - they want to practice it even here where, if they wanted, they could be free of it.

 :amen: We have all seen Muslim protesters in Europe carring signs with saying such as "TO HELL WITH YOUR FREEDOMS!"
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 12, 2016, 08:50:37 pm
I watched a movie last night Mars Attacks.......just like watching the invaders and world leaders now in real life.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 10:54:33 pm
I watched a movie last night Mars Attacks.......just like watching the invaders and world leaders now in real life.

Well,at the minimum you had a few good laughs and were entertained. That's never a waste of time.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Fishrrman on February 12, 2016, 11:14:43 pm
sinkspur wrote above:
"Remember, this is a tribal election. Us Versus Them. The lowest level of human consciousness.
White is "Us".  Everybody else is "Them." "


Frankly, I have no problems with that.

For too long, the preponderance of what's been aimed at Americans by the media, the entertainment elites, and the government itself, has been "anti-white".

This time, the white folks are pushing back.

And I don't care whether you like that or not...   ;_)
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 12, 2016, 11:17:34 pm
Well,at the minimum you had a few good laughs and were entertained. That's never a waste of time.
yes a couple of laughs.....
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 12, 2016, 11:24:20 pm
sinkspur wrote above:
"Remember, this is a tribal election. Us Versus Them. The lowest level of human consciousness.
White is "Us".  Everybody else is "Them." "


Frankly, I have no problems with that.

For too long, the preponderance of what's been aimed at Americans by the media, the entertainment elites, and the government itself, has been "anti-white".

This time, the white folks are pushing back.

And I don't care whether you like that or not...   ;_)
yes it is time. they are never going to stop coming after us, our history and and each of us they want off the planet.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Fishrrman on February 12, 2016, 11:25:51 pm
truth_seeker wrote above:
"We have no rational need for them. Leave them in the Mideast, or let them find some other place.
The muslims have no moral right to come to America, and Americans have no moral obligation to take them."


Bravo and thank you for saying this!

Muslims have no place in the West (or anywhere else outside of dar al-islam).
They don't belong here.
They should be returned to their "homelands".
I don't want them in my world.

You can call me bigoted.
You can call me xenophobic.
You can call me racist.
You can call me a white nationalist.
You can call me anything you wish.

I don't care.
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: EdinVA on February 12, 2016, 11:39:36 pm
sinkspur wrote above:
"Remember, this is a tribal election. Us Versus Them. The lowest level of human consciousness.
White is "Us".  Everybody else is "Them." "


Frankly, I have no problems with that.

For too long, the preponderance of what's been aimed at Americans by the media, the entertainment elites, and the government itself, has been "anti-white".

This time, the white folks are pushing back.

And I don't care whether you like that or not...   ;_)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: sneakypete on February 12, 2016, 11:51:39 pm
yes it is time. they are never going to stop coming after us, our history and and each of us they want off the planet.

Well,you have to admit it was a clever and well-thought out plan. After all,the white man has ALWAYS been a minority of the world population,yet for some odd reason he ended up running the world and demanding people at least pretend to adopt civilization.

And we know this was all possible because the white man is such a swell dancer,and never been known to be violent,right?
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: truth_seeker on February 13, 2016, 12:14:31 am
TS,  I know the difference between Islam and Islamofascism.   I want to destroy the latter utterly.  And I know that to do so, we need to enlist Muslims in the cause.  We shoot ourselves in the foot with hyperbolic rhetoric that conflates the innocent with the guilty, the peaceable with the violent,  and reinforces the Islamofascist narrative.   
You may have missed this gift to us by islam and our grand government administrators.

Machete-Wielding Muslim Man Attacks Israeli-Christian’s Ohio Restaurant, Several Wounded

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/12/machete-wielding-man-attacks-israeli-christian-ohio-restaurant-several-wounded/

Police have shot and killed a man who allegedly attacked patrons of a Columbus, Ohio, restaurant Thursday night, wounding several people. One of the victims is in critical condition, according to reports.

The suspected attacker is a Somali national named Mohammad Barry, CBS reports. There are also reports that Barry was on a terrorist watchlist.

“Law enforcement is concerned that this incident has the hallmarks of the type of so-called “lone wolf” terrorist attack that they have been working to stop,” the report reads.

The suspect entered the restaurant earlier in the day and asked for the owner. He was then told the owner was not at the restaurant, and he left the building, WBNS-10TV reports.

Thirty minutes later, allegedly armed with a machete, the now-deceased suspect entered the Nazareth Restaurant and Deli at 6:30PM local time, witnesses say.

The owner of the restaurant is an Israeli Christian who formerly lived in Nazareth, Israel, according to reports.

“He came in and started beating up on another man, I thought

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The bottom bottom line is this: Trump is talking about this stuff, and talking common sense about it.


Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: flowers on February 13, 2016, 12:19:44 am
Well,you have to admit it was a clever and well-thought out plan. After all,the white man has ALWAYS been a minority of the world population,yet for some odd reason he ended up running the world and demanding people at least pretend to adopt civilization.

And we know this was all possible because the white man is such a swell dancer,and never been known to be violent,right?
:laugh:
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 13, 2016, 01:28:21 am
So, to get this straight in my head.

You'll define conservatism as whatever actions necessary to keep the white race dominant?
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Bigun on February 13, 2016, 01:36:12 am
So, to get this straight in my head.

You'll define conservatism as whatever actions necessary to keep the white race dominant?

Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’

That is the title of this thread and solely what it is about!  If Western civilization is to survive we MUST come to grips with the FACT that you cannot coexist with people who only want to kill you!
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 13, 2016, 01:42:07 am
Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’

That is the title of this thread and solely what it is about!  If Western civilization is to survive we MUST come to grips with the FACT that you cannot coexist with people who only want to kill you!

sinkspur wrote above:
"Remember, this is a tribal election. Us Versus Them. The lowest level of human consciousness.
White is "Us".  Everybody else is "Them." "


Frankly, I have no problems with that.

For too long, the preponderance of what's been aimed at Americans by the media, the entertainment elites, and the government itself, has been "anti-white".

This time, the white folks are pushing back.

And I don't care whether you like that or not...   ;_)
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Charlespg on February 13, 2016, 01:42:37 am
I read yesterday that 11% of Syria's population has been killed in this civil war.   There's really no empathy for the innocent victims of this carnage?   Is it really because these innocent victims happen to be Muslim?

I have no objection to our allowing refugees to come here, PROVIDED that we accept only whole, intact families.  The problem with the European migrants is that most of them are unattached males - and unattached males tend to commit the most crimes, be they brown, white, Christian or Muslim.   They tend to congregate with each other and don't assimilate.   Families have much more of an incentive to assimilate.   
Christian or yazidi only ,no muslims except for woman fleeing abuse ..and they would heavily vetted  and subject to a period of probation .
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 13, 2016, 01:44:24 am
Christian or yazidi only ,no muslims except for woman fleeing abuse ..and they would heavily vetted  and subject to a period of probation .

Why not just build a refugee camp?  Fence it in and put up a few guards. 

Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Charlespg on February 13, 2016, 01:51:06 am
Why not just build a refugee camp?  Fence it in and put up a few guards.
I could go with that ,but no muslim  males except the very young
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: Paladin on February 13, 2016, 02:19:28 am
Why not just build a refugee camp?  Fence it in and put up a few guards.

Build it over there, not here, and provide security. Get the Muzzies to provide food, shelter, medical services, and the like. After all, it's their co-religionists. Don't they care?
Title: Re: Bachmann on Muslim Migration: ‘This Is A Planned Invasion’ For The ‘Purpose of Destroying Western Christendom’
Post by: HonestJohn on February 13, 2016, 03:49:47 am
Build it over there, not here, and provide security. Get the Muzzies to provide food, shelter, medical services, and the like. After all, it's their co-religionists. Don't they care?

What do you think already exist in Lebanon and Turkey?