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Title: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 02:11:42 am
DALLAS (AP) - A Dallas hospital says it is isolating a patient who is showing signs of having the Ebola virus.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas said in a statement Monday night that the patient's symptoms and travel history suggest the patient may have Ebola, the virus that has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa.

The hospital expects to receive preliminary test results Tuesday from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Presbyterian Hospital says it's taking measures to keep its doctors, staff and patients safe.

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Dallas-Hospital-Monitoring-Patient-for-Ebola-277531251.html
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 02:23:22 am
And the problem is, who knows how many people (and where) this person could have exposed.  Ebola can take a long time to show symptoms and there is still debate on when a person is able to spread it around.  Granted it is not like the flu (airborne) but nonetheless it can still spread.

The only way to keep this out of the US is to stop any and all people from entering the country who have been to west Africa.  US citizens coming home from there should be put into quarantine for a month.

And I have to fly through Dallas in December.  Joy.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2014, 09:32:17 am
Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas monitoring patient possibly infected with Ebola virus
 By Claire Cardona

A Dallas hospital expects preliminary test results Tuesday that may confirm whether a patient there has Ebola.

Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of Dallas placed the patient into “strict isolation” after the person’s symptoms and recent travel history raised concerns, spokeswoman Candace White said in a written statement Monday.

The name and other details about the patient were not released.

The hospital said it is following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommendations to ensure the safety of patients, staff members and visitors.

No Ebola cases have been confirmed in the United States, though several aid workers who contracted the disease in West Africa have returned to the U.S. for treatment.

Last month, patients in Sacramento and New York City were isolated because of concerns they’d contracted the disease, but they tested negative for the virus.

Specimens from such patients are delivered to the CDC in Atlanta for testing that takes 24 to 48 hours.

There have been more than 6,500 cases of the disease in Africa and more than 3,000 deaths have been linked to it, according to the World Health Organization. Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea have been hit the hardest.

Ebola has killed up to 90 percent of those it has infected, but the death rate in this outbreak is closer to 60 percent because of early treatment.

The virus spreads through direct contact with blood, organs or other bodily fluids and with surfaces contaminated with the fluids.

Early signs of Ebola such as fever, diarrhea and vomiting can develop within two days of infection.

more at link:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/dallas-texas-health-presbyterian-hospital-monitoring-patient-for-possible-ebola.html/ (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/dallas-texas-health-presbyterian-hospital-monitoring-patient-for-possible-ebola.html/)
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on September 30, 2014, 09:42:46 am
Why not Vermont?  New York?  Illinois?

How does this virus go from Africa to Texas?  You mean to tell me some 'child' traveling through Mexico magically contracted it?  This stinks to high heaven.

What better way to change the demographic of 'Red' border states?  Of the Heartland?

And don't tell me I'm crazy or wearing freaking tin foil here.

IMO, the Left is making its move right now.

If there's confirmed Ebola outbreak...wouldn't that serve as a catalyst to impose Martial Law?

Who among us would venture outside to work?

....or to vote?   :whistle:

Dead is dead.....doesn't matter whether you're starved (Stalin) or by some other method.

Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: rangerrebew on September 30, 2014, 10:00:33 am
North Texas Hospital Evaluating Patient For Potential Ebola Exposure


Updated | September 29, 2014 10:58 PM
September 29, 2014 9:06 PM

 

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – A North Texas hospital has a patient in isolation as they evaluate them for potential exposure to the Ebola virus.

Officials with Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas released the following statement Monday night:


“Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas has admitted a patient into strict isolation to be evaluated for potential Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) based on the patient’s symptoms and recent travel history. The hospital is following all Centers for Disease Control and Texas Department of Heath recommendations to ensure the safety of patients, hospital staff, volunteers, physicians and visitors. The CDC anticipates preliminary results tomorrow.”

It is unclear what specific symptoms the patient has or what the patient’s travel history was.

CBS 11 News spoke with Dallas County Health and Human Services Director Zachary Thompson who confirmed the patient had been in an area where the Ebola virus exists. “Looking at the travel history is the first indicator and then the next step is [treatment or non-treatment] once we get lab results,” he said.

Thompson definitely felt that there should be a heightened sense of awareness in North Texas, based on what has happened internationally. “With what we’ve seen in the media and how deadly the Ebola virus is, it is a concern.”
 
Thompson stressed that there are certain procedures that will be followed if tests for the ptient come back positive. “We [health professionals] all had been planning to look at what our next steps are if there is a confirmed case. Again, we have to do the public health follow up, to see what contacts… where this individual has gone since they arrived here in Dallas. There are a number of things that have to be looked at.”

As far as possible infection to others here in North Texas Thompson said, “The key point is, if there’s been no transmission, blood, secretion, any type of bodily fluids by the infected person to someone else, then that risk is low to none.”

The Ebola virus has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa and infected several Americans who have traveled to the region, including Fort Worth Doctor Kent Brantly who contracted the disease while doing missionary work in Liberia.


This is a developing story. CBS 11 News has crews gathering more information and will have more as soon as it is available.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/09/29/north-texas-hospital-evaluating-patient-for-potential-ebola-exposure/
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: flowers on September 30, 2014, 04:58:23 pm
Why not Vermont?  New York?  Illinois?

How does this virus go from Africa to Texas?  You mean to tell me some 'child' traveling through Mexico magically contracted it?  This stinks to high heaven.

What better way to change the demographic of 'Red' border states?  Of the Heartland?

And don't tell me I'm crazy or wearing freaking tin foil here.

IMO, the Left is making its move right now.

If there's confirmed Ebola outbreak...wouldn't that serve as a catalyst to impose Martial Law?

Who among us would venture outside to work?

....or to vote?   :whistle:

Dead is dead.....doesn't matter whether you're starved (Stalin) or by some other method.

they need to turn Texas blue by 2016. At this rate they will get it and get teach us a lesson, bring us down to size it is not fair that only Africa has Ebola. 
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 10:42:15 pm
Merged threads and updated title.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 10:43:40 pm
A patient at a Dallas hospital has tested positive for Ebola, the first case of the disease to be diagnosed in the United States, federal health officials announced Tuesday.

The patient was in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, which had announced a day earlier that the person’s symptoms and recent travel indicated a possible case of Ebola, the virus that has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa and infected a handful of Americans who have traveled to that region.

The person, an adult who was not publicly identified, developed symptoms days after returning to Texas from Liberia and showed no symptoms on the plane, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden said the patient came to the U.S. to visit family and has been hospitalized since the weekend.

State health officials said no other cases are suspected in Texas.

President Barack Obama has been briefed on the Dallas Ebola case by Frieden, the White House said.

Specimens from the patient were tested by a state lab and confirmed by a separate test by the Centers for Disease Control, said Carrie Williams, spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notified the media at 3:32 p.m. Tuesday that Dallas has the first diagnosed Ebola case in the nation.

Dallas County went through a day-long anxiety attack Tuesday, waiting to hear if the first Ebola diagnosis in the nation would happen here.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20140929-ebola-case-in-dallas-confirmed-by-cdc-first-diagnosis-in-u.s..ece
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Scottftlc on September 30, 2014, 10:53:59 pm
Not going to put on tinfoil just yet.  Any major American city could be at risk...any of them with a big airport and a lot of passengers moving in or through.  Not that it could be put past Islamic crazies...
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 10:55:33 pm
The guy is not a US citizen, but was here to "visit family."  Starting showing symptons on the 24th, went to a hospital on the 26th who sent him home, and then was admitted at the current one on the 28th so he had at least 4 days to spread this around to countless people.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 10:56:32 pm
I was going to take a trip to Dallas in October, not anymore.  Might even cancel my trip in December since I have to fly through DFW.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mystery-ak on September 30, 2014, 11:01:19 pm
I was going to take a trip to Dallas in October, not anymore.  Might even cancel my trip in December since I have to fly through DFW.

...there may not be anyone left in Dallas by then.... :smokin:
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 11:03:12 pm
CDC is expecting more cases in people he had contact with.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mountaineer on September 30, 2014, 11:28:25 pm
Whew!

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller  · 1h1 hour ago 
WH says Pres Obama has been briefed on the US Ebola case by @CDCgov Dir Dr. Tom Frieden.

Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 30, 2014, 11:31:18 pm
Whew!

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller  · 1h1 hour ago 
WH says Pres Obama has been briefed on the US Ebola case by @CDCgov Dir Dr. Tom Frieden.

Guess everything is okay now.

All can return to DWTS, nude celeb leaks, Miley Cyrus, and whatever else the stupid masses cares about anymore.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: jmyrlefuller on September 30, 2014, 11:50:40 pm
What better way to change the demographic of 'Red' border states?  Of the Heartland?

And don't tell me I'm crazy or wearing freaking tin foil here.

IMO, the Left is making its move right now.
By wiping out the most densely populated and most politically liberal areas first? That makes absolutely zero sense. Conservative areas have always been the scattered ones, spread across vast, sparsely populated areas. Ebola requires direct contact to be spread. A planned outbreak would almost certainly harm the liberals more.

I won't say you're crazy, but this idea is.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 01, 2014, 12:15:15 am
By wiping out the most densely populated and most politically liberal areas first? That makes absolutely zero sense. Conservative areas have always been the scattered ones, spread across vast, sparsely populated areas. Ebola requires direct contact to be spread. A planned outbreak would almost certainly harm the liberals more.

I won't say you're crazy, but this idea is.

???

Texas is deep blood red, my friend.

First you instill panic among the state's citizenry.  Note that even Atomic said he's changed his mind about visiting relatives there.  It can destroy local economies.  Texas is currently ranked #1...to the point, people and businesses are moving there.  This is going to adversely affect them.

Furthermore, where did the 'mystery' virus start showing up which is affecting children....some with polio-like symptoms and paralysis?  Again...it's the heartland.

I can smell bullshit from this regime from quite a distance, Jmyrle.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 01, 2014, 12:17:08 am
It's not relatives.  I was going there to do photography.  I can always go at a later date.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 01, 2014, 12:39:23 am
???

Texas is deep blood red, my friend.
But Dallas is not. Wipe out Dallas and Texas becomes even redder.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 01, 2014, 01:42:15 am
Suburbs are heavy red, please don't wipe out Dallas yet.
I have no intention of wiping out Dallas; my point was that if you were going to impose some sort of “planned shrinkage” to wipe out America's conservatives, using a biological weapon, especially one that is best spread through person-to-person contact, is probably the most countereffective way to do it. The big cities are liberal and the remote areas are generally conservative.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 01, 2014, 02:43:40 am
The kookism is running high right now.

-This is an ISIS plot
-This is an Obama plot
-They (Obama/government) want as many sick as possible as soon as possible
-There is already a vaccine to protect against Ebola.  Obama, billionaires, top politicians (Democrats) and other upper elites and their families have been inoculated.  The rest of us are to die.
-Goal is to reduce the US population by 80% or more
-They will begin rounding up sick conservatives for "quarantine" in FEMA camps
-There will be no election, not in 2014, not in 2016, not ever.
-Martial law will soon be declared with all guns confiscated and anti-Obama people rounded up
-They are intentionally sending potential carriers out into the public to infect others
-Lots of people claiming to be doctors or nurses (all over the country) saying they're going to quit tomorrow

-Oh, and from the left side of the political spectrum, this is the GOP's fault because they wouldn't give Obama all of the funds he wants.  It's also Bush's fault.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 01, 2014, 03:10:55 am
Dallas as activated its emergency operations center.

The ambulance that transported the person to the hospital is now a bio-hazard.  The three personnel who treated him in the ambulance are now under observation.

Now they have to contact everyone who was in the ER during his first (non-ambulance) visit including staff and other patients.

Gov. Perry will visit Dallas tomorrow for a briefing.  The Dallas mayor says they will have daily public briefings.

For whatever reason, they will not quarantine anyone exposed, but simply check on them to see if the feel sick for the next 21 days.

The problem is, the normal flu can present the same initial symptoms and something like H1N1/Swine Flu hits hard and fast.  So how many people will think they just have the flu and keep going, spreading it to others?
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 01, 2014, 04:46:31 pm
Officials: Second person being monitored for Ebola

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/

by Marjorie Owens
October 1, 2014

Quote
Health officials are closely monitoring a possible second Ebola patient who had close contact with the first person to be diagnosed in the U.S., the director of Dallas County's health department said Wednesday. All who have been in close contact with the man diagnosed are being monitored as a precaution

Quote of note:
Quote
Stanley Gaye, president of the Liberian Community Association of Dallas-Fort Worth, said the 10,000-strong Liberian population in North Texas is skeptical of the CDC's assurances because Ebola has ravaged their country. "We've been telling people to try to stay away from social gatherings," Gaye said at a community meeting Tuesday. Large get-togethers are a prominent part of Liberian culture.

THIS is why Dallas was where it first hit, not some conspiracy to wipe out the red states.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2014, 05:43:53 pm

Breaking News
2 mins ·
JUST IN: The Ebola patient currently receiving treatment in Texas had contact with school-age children, Gov. Rick Perry said Wednesday. The children are being monitored and currently have no symptoms.
The patient is in serious condition.

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/africa-ebola-outbreak-2014/ (http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/africa-ebola-outbreak-2014/)
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2014, 06:13:25 pm
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_CHILDREN_MONITORED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-01-13-20-13 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_CHILDREN_MONITORED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-01-13-20-13)


Oct 1, 1:57 PM EDT

Official: 5 kids had contact with Ebola patient

 DALLAS (AP) -- Authorities say five students who had contact with a man diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas are being monitored but are showing no symptoms of the disease.

Dallas Independent School District Superintendent Mike Miles said Wednesday that the students were in school this week after possibly being in contact with the man over the weekend.

But he says they're showing no symptoms and are now being monitored at home. Health officials say the disease is only spread by people with symptoms, such as diarrhea or vomiting.

As an added precaution, Miles says additional health and custodial staff will be at the five schools the students attend.

The unidentified man is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. He's been in isolation at a Dallas hospital since Sunday.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2014, 06:14:23 pm
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-01-13-24-13 (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EBOLA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-01-13-24-13)

Sister: US Ebola patient said he was from Liberia
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mystery-ak on October 01, 2014, 06:37:35 pm
http://washingtonexaminer.com/top-doc-several-people-were-exposed...more-will-be-infected-by-dallas-ebola-case/article/2554213 (http://washingtonexaminer.com/top-doc-several-people-were-exposed...more-will-be-infected-by-dallas-ebola-case/article/2554213)

Top doc: 'Several people were exposed,' more will be infected by Dallas Ebola case
By Paul Bedard | October 1, 2014 | 9:36 am



A former Food and Drug Administration chief scientist and top infectious disease specialist said that several people were exposed to the Ebola virus by the unidentified patient in Dallas, America’s first case, and it’s likely that many more will be infected.

Dr. Jesse L. Goodman, now a professor of medicine at Georgetown University Medical Center, said while the nation shouldn’t panic, it’s best to prepare for the worst.

“It is quite appropriate to be concerned on many fronts,” he said in a statement provided to Secrets. “First, it is a tragedy for the patient and family and, as well, a stress to contacts, health care workers and the community at large. Second, it appears several people were exposed before the individual was placed in isolation, and it is quite possible that one or more of his contacts will be infected,” he added.

What’s more, he conceded that it was “only a matter of time” that the swift-killing African virus arrived in the U.S.

“If anyone did not agree before, bringing the epidemic in Africa under control is an absolute emergency and requires a massive effort and global commitment now long overdue. This is a matter not just of preventing death and suffering in Africa, but, as this case brings home to the U.S., of global safety and security,” he warned.

He also strongly suggested that the one case will not be the end.

“While there is an expectation that this case, and likely future ones, can be contained, it is important not to be overconfident and to continuously, now and in the future, reexamine both how the virus is behaving and also the public health and medical response to see what can potentially be improved,” he said.

Like others in the medical field, Goodman asked why it is that the Ebola case wasn’t detected earlier and he demanded that testing protocols be reevaluated.

“It is critical for hospitals and health care workers everywhere to be sure they are alert, obtain travel histories and, if there is any question at all it could be Ebola, contact CDC and, while sorting things out, act to isolate a sick patient returning from an epidemic area,” he said.

Georgetown’s medical staff has been on high alert for Ebola, as have other local hospitals. What’s more, Georgetown University has been closely following the case because it has close to ties to many of the impacted countries and has educators who have traveled to the region.

Nonetheless, Goodman suggested that travel now be limited to the area.

“If less people traveled, risks may be reduced, and active follow-up and education of travelers could also be facilitated.”
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 01, 2014, 09:47:47 pm
http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1 (http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1)


Dallas parents fearing Ebola remove children from school
Bill Hanna


Breaking news

Parents on Wednesday were removing their children from a Dallas school where a student may have had contact with the Ebola patient diagnosed Tuesday.

A letter to parents of children at L.L. Hotchkiss Elementary School, 6929 Town North Drive, says in part:

“This morning, we were made aware that one of our students may have had contact with an individual who was recently diagnosed with the Ebola virus. This student is currently not showing any symptoms and is under close observation by the Dallas County Health and Human Services Department. As a precautionary measure, the student has been advised to stay home from school. Since this student is not presenting any symptoms, there is nothing to suggest that the disease was spread to others, including students and staff.”

At a news conference at noon Wednesday, Dallas Independent School District Superintendent Mike Miles said students attending four different Dallas Independent School District schools possibly have been exposed to the Ebola virus.

He said the district was informed the five students were in contact with the Ebola patient over the weekend. They have been in school since, but are now at home and likely will be kept there for 21 days.

Dallas County is working with the Centers for Disease Control to have "boots on the ground" to monitor those who might have been exposed, officials said.

WFAA’s Sebastian Robertson is reporting that concerned parents are picking up their children from the school where one of the students may have attended.

The Ebola patient was visiting a neighborhood where 33 languages are spoken, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said.

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1 (http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/01/6165611/officials-say-only-one-ebola-case.html?rh=1)


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Still think my opinion was crazy, jmyrle? 
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mountaineer on October 01, 2014, 10:10:03 pm
THIS is why Dallas was where it first hit, not some conspiracy to wipe out the red states.
Yes, but in the immortal (or immoral) words of Rahm Emmanuel, never let a crisis go to waste.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 01, 2014, 11:25:56 pm
Not enough tin foil on Earth for this thread now.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: ABX on October 01, 2014, 11:28:17 pm
Not enough tin foil on Earth for this thread now.

The price of tin has been going up a lot lately. Demand must be up in the hat industry.
(http://www.mgchemicals.net.au/images/news/2007-02/chart_tin_small.gif)
Title: Ebola: Thomas Duncan Very Likely Knew He Had Been Infected
Post by: rangerrebew on October 02, 2014, 10:21:11 am
- The Daily Sheeple - http://www.thedailysheeple.com -



Ebola: Thomas Duncan Very Likely Knew He Had Been Infected

Posted By Lizzie Bennett On October 2, 2014 @ 3:42 am In Armageddon Scenarios,Editor's Choice,Featured,Health,News,People | No Comments


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Thomas Eric Duncan. Image credit: The Daily Mail [2]

Nothing makes a medical type, or even an ex-medical type like me, madder than hearing officials sprout total bullshit regarding diseases.We are being told that Thomas Eric Duncan, the gentleman ensconced in an isolation unit it Dallas, only had contact with a dozen or so people since he arrived in the United States.

Rubbish. Total garbage. The official version of him not being sick before he arrived in the US actually increases the likelihood of having far more contacts than is being stated.

Let’s break this down:
•Thomas Duncan arrived in the United States on September 20th after leaving Liberia on September 19th.
•SIX DAYS later on September 26th he takes himself to the hospital saying he feels unwell. He is sent home with antibiotics
•TWO DAYS later, on September 28th he returns to the hospital and is considered an Ebola risk and put into isolation.

Right, a few facts:
1.ALL body fluids are infective after the symptoms start to show. Not just the faeces, vomit and blood officials keep telling us about. Sweat, seamen and tears are all body fluids.
2.Visible symptoms, as in ‘Ebola is not infectious until symptoms the show’ is variable from person to person. A mild sore throat to one person may feel like a cactus stuck in their neck to another. This not only dictates how fast a person seeks medical assistance for the problem, but if the patient perceives there to actually BE a problem in the first place.
3.Taking temperatures as a means of detecting a person has Ebola is akin to checking a lottery ticket before the draw and declaring it a winner! This is a ‘look, we are being proactive ‘PR thing. Having  no fever now does not mean you will be fever free tomorrow, or even two hours after the ‘test’.  In addition, fever is often not the first sign of a person carrying Ebola. Sore throat, feeling a bit ‘fluey’, and  generally aching a bit usually precedes the acute (rapid) onset of fever that is so beloved by officialdom.
4.The mean onset time of Ebola symptoms in the Liberian outbreak, where we can assume Thomas Duncan contracted the disease is 9 days. Minimum is 2 days, maximum 21 days, though by far the vast majority of people in the Liberian outbreak have started to show symptoms around the 9 day mark.
5.We have no way of knowing if Thomas Duncan is an average patient, but we can assume he did not contract Ebola on US soil. So counting back from September 26th, when he first sought medical help, we can arrive at the date of 5th of September as the earliest date he could have become infected. we also have no way of knowing if he was having symptoms that were minor enough that he didn’t seek help. UPDATE: The Liberian government has stated that Mr Duncan had direct contact with an Ebola victim in Monrovia on September 15th. (source) [3]
6.We have to question why he left Liberia at this particular time. Is he an American returning home? A dual citizen? A Liberian visiting friends and family ? If it was the latter did he know he had been exposed and know his chances of survival were higher in the United States? UPDATE: Liberian government have confirmed Thomas Eric Duncan is a Liberian resident living in Monrovia. (source) [3]

So Thomas Duncan arrives on a plane full of people, travelling from Liberia via Brussels, he seems well. He makes his way from the airport to his family…in a cab? Is he picked up by relatives or a friend? Does he use public transport?  It doesn’t matter if he was not infective at that point, but nobody can be sure can they?

So he travels to his destination, one would assume he is meeting with family members and friends during this period. We know for sure he had contact with five school children, those kids attend four different schools so we can assume they are not all from one family. Families tend to put kids in the same schools. So there will have been a few parents of those kids around.

Did all these meetings take place at home? did they eat out, go to a movie? Go to the shopping mall? Did he stay indoors for the entire six days until he first attended the hospital?

When he did first attend the hospital one would assume that the place was not empty. There would have been other patients around, probably with relatives. Staff would be milling about. He would have had to check in at reception, a nurse would have spoken to him. He was prescribed antibiotics, where was the prescription filled out? He was infective during this period, and most likely a day or two before. Nobody goes to the hospital immediately unless they know a situation is life or limb threatening do they? Did he know or did he assume he was just a little unwell and wait? Who else did he interact with during this time period?

He returns home. By car, bus or train or on foot? Was he feverish and sweating? Did he vomit?

For the next two days he is at home, who visited that home?

Finally, an ambulance is called and he is taken back to the hospital. There would have been direct contact with the emergency team that attended to collect him, and the emergency team at the hospital. Those two groups of people alone amount to more than a dozen.

Whilst writing this article new details have emerged. Thomas Duncan shared a house in Monrovia with the Williams family. On September 15th he helped move a stricken woman to the hospital. He was in the cab with her. She was turned away from the hospital and returned home, helped from the cab by Duncan and her brother and father.


“He was holding her by the legs, the pa was holding her arms and Sonny Boy was holding her back,” said Arren Seyou, 31, who witnessed the scene and occupies the room next to Mr. Duncan’s.

Sonny Boy, 21, also started getting sick about a week ago, his family said, around the same time that Mr. Duncan first started showing symptoms. (my emphasis)

In a sign of how furiously the disease can spread, an ambulance had come to their house on Wednesday to pick up Sonny Boy. Another ambulance picked up a woman and her daughter from the same area, and a team of body collectors came to retrieve the body of yet another woman — all four appeared to have been infected in a chain reaction started by Marthalene Williams.

A few minutes after the ambulance left, the parents got a call telling them that Sonny Boy had died on the way to the hospital. (source) [3]

Its very likely Thomas Duncan knew he had been infected with Ebola and that he decided to leave Liberia to secure better treatment in the United States. Why the hell didn’t he go right to the hospital when he arrived? Why take the chance? Depending on the outcome for Thomas Duncan we may never know.

Take Care

Liz

Sources:

USA Today [4]

BBC [5]

Sky News US [6]

New York Times [3]

CNN [7]

The Daily Mail [2]

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple [8]


Contributed by Lizzie Bennett of Underground Medic [9].

Lizzie Bennett retired from her job as a senior operating department practitioner in the UK earlier this year. Her field was trauma and accident and emergency and she has served on major catastrophe teams around the UK. Lizzie publishes Underground Medic [9] on the topic of preparedness.


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[2] The Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2776837/Ebola-victim-told-ER-nurse-African-outbreak-zone-sent-home-antibiotics-TWO-days-quarantined.html

[3] source): http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/world/africa/ebola-victim-texas-thomas-eric-duncan.html?_r=0

[4] USA Today: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/

[5] BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29447877

[6] Sky News US: http://news.sky.com/story/1345773/us-ebola-patient-was-sent-home-by-hospital

[7] CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/us-ebola-patient/index.html

[8] The Daily Sheeple: http://www.TheDailySheeple.com/

[9] Underground Medic: http://undergroundmedic.com/
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: mountaineer on October 02, 2014, 12:37:33 pm
This may be a kook or semi-kook site, I don't know:
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BREAKING: The REAL Truth About Dallas Ebola Patient Zero May Be Unravelling… And It’s Not Pretty (BOMBSHELL REPORT)
By Eric Odom
8:09 am October 2, 2014   

Last night I found myself pondering this Dallas Ebola situation and ended up puzzled over it all. You see, Thomas Duncan, the man who came from West Africa with Ebola, had to have known he was likely carrying the virus. A few days before Duncan boarded a last minute flight to Dallas he had personally handled a pregnant friend while trying to get her to an Ebola treatment facility in West Africa. He and another friend helped her into a taxi, took her to the facility and they were turned away due to the facility not having room for new patients.

When the group returned to the woman’s apartment, Duncan and another friend carried her back inside. Unfortunately, the pregnant woman dies that evening.

Under those circumstances, I fail to see how Duncan didn’t know he was very likely to have contracted Ebola. Whether or not he purchased the flight that day or after is yet to be known. The claim out there is that he decided to pay a last minute visit to his girlfriend and other family in Dallas, Texas.

For further thought on this, take everything above into consideration and then ponder this. Duncan handled a friend who had Ebola, she died that night, he boarded a flight a few days later and then found himself sick. He then visited a hospital in Dallas, informed the facility that he had traveled from West Africa, was given antibiotics and was sent home. How could he have possibly not believed he had Ebola when he first went to the hospital? Any level-headed human should be able to add that 2+2 scenario together and get 4.

Now for the cherry on top. Via TCT:
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What we had suspected was the case is now confirmed by the New York Times. Patient Zero, Thomas Duncan, came to the U.S. knowing he was exposed to Ebola and seeking treatment.
.... 
Read the rest at Liberty News (http://www.libertynews.com/2014/10/breaking-the-real-truth-about-dallas-ebola-patient-zero-may-be-unravelling-and-its-not-pretty-bombshell-report/#sthash.YgLXW8qw.dpuf)
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 02, 2014, 12:42:37 pm
This may be a kook or semi-kook site, I don't know:.... 
Read the rest at url=http://www.libertynews.com/2014/10/breaking-the-real-truth-about-dallas-ebola-patient-zero-may-be-unravelling-and-its-not-pretty-bombshell-report/#sthash.YgLXW8qw.dpuf]Liberty News[/url]

'Suicide bomber' jihadists don't always wear dynamite belts...but they all go "BOOM"!   :whistle:
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 02, 2014, 03:25:14 pm
Most of these so called "news" sites like dailysheeple, shtf, etc are nothing but kook blogs posing as news, and feeding those who live for the daily conspiracy.

Many take a legit news article and spice it up, either by creative editing or adding material to make known facts sound 100 times worse.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: katzenjammer on October 02, 2014, 03:34:58 pm
Most of these so called "news" sites like dailysheeple, shtf, etc are nothing but kook blogs posing as news, and feeding those who live for the daily conspiracy.

Many take a legit news article and spice it up, either by creative editing or adding material to make known facts sound 100 times worse.

Right!!  Because everyone knows that the wiser course is to always trust the gubmint and the MSM!!  They NEVER LIE to us, and always have our best interests at the fore!!

Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: alicewonders on October 02, 2014, 03:51:22 pm
Most of these so called "news" sites like dailysheeple, shtf, etc are nothing but kook blogs posing as news, and feeding those who live for the daily conspiracy.

Many take a legit news article and spice it up, either by creative editing or adding material to make known facts sound 100 times worse.

Whatever the source - common sense tells me if he was in close contact with a woman that died that evening from ebola - he had to have known he was exposed to it before he came here.

Now, did he intentionally expose himself to come here for a Jihad mission?  Or, did he realize that he was doomed to die from it in Liberia and he would have a better chance to be treated and to survive over here? 

What blows my mind is that the hospital (especially being in Texas where all kinds of people are coming in unchecked from third world countried) did not take this man seriously enough to keep him in the hospital the first time.  They had to have known that this man was not an American citizen - they always make me do paperwork when I go to the hospital.  This is mind-boggling!

Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 04:03:46 pm
Whatever the source - common sense tells me if he was in close contact with a woman that died that evening from ebola - he had to have known he was exposed to it before he came here.

Now, did he intentionally expose himself to come here for a Jihad mission?  Or, did he realize that he was doomed to die from it in Liberia and he would have a better chance to be treated and to survive over here? 

What blows my mind is that the hospital (especially being in Texas where all kinds of people are coming in unchecked from third world countried) did not take this man seriously enough to keep him in the hospital the first time.  They had to have known that this man was not an American citizen - they always make me do paperwork when I go to the hospital.  This is mind-boggling!

Press reports indicate that he informed medical personnel of his travel history but that information was 'inadvertantly' not passed on to physicians despite CDC regulations requiring confinement.

Payback for Perry being a PITA to Bambi?  Oops...


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 02, 2014, 04:10:56 pm
Right!!  Because everyone knows that the wiser course is to always trust the gubmint and the MSM!!  They NEVER LIE to us, and always have our best interests at the fore!!
Don't you put words in my mouth.

The point is, just because it is on the Internet does not make it true.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 04:13:17 pm
The point is, just because it is on the Internet does not make it true.

Oh darn... now that really ruined my day...   


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 02, 2014, 04:13:53 pm
Press reports indicate that he informed medical personnel of his travel history but that information was 'inadvertantly' not passed on to physicians despite CDC regulations requiring confinement.

Payback for Perry being a PITA to Bambi?  Oops...

So some nurse screws up and it is automatically an Obama operation.

Jeez, stuff like this is why conservatives are seen as kooks.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 04:15:36 pm
So some nurse screws up and it is automatically an Obama operation.

Jeez, stuff like this is why conservatives are seen as kooks.

Well... it was a coinkidink that JFK was assassinated in Dallas, right?


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: katzenjammer on October 02, 2014, 04:26:23 pm
Don't you put words in my mouth.

The point is, just because it is on the Internet does not make it true.

And just because it is on the Internet (and not being spouted by those nice smiling people from ABC News or the CDC), doesn't  mean it isn't  true...  YOU are the one with the ignorant blanket condemnations.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: katzenjammer on October 02, 2014, 04:28:53 pm
Well... it was a coinkidink that JFK was assassinated in Dallas, right?

Some people have their heads so deeply buried in the sand that their grandkids are going to be pushing out pearls!!   :silly:
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: flowers on October 02, 2014, 04:31:31 pm
Well... it was a coinkidink that JFK was assassinated in Dallas, right?
:silly:
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Atomic Cow on October 02, 2014, 05:08:20 pm
And just because it is on the Internet (and not being spouted by those nice smiling people from ABC News or the CDC), doesn't  mean it isn't  true...  YOU are the one with the ignorant blanket condemnations.

Standard ad hominem attack I would expect from people who see a conspiracy around every corner.  You aren't even worth my time or effort as there is clearly no way to have any level of a logical discussion with you.  All you want to do is attack and believe the latest tin foil hat bullshit being posted on blogs by people living in a bunker.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: Scottftlc on October 02, 2014, 05:32:28 pm
I strongly suspect that the guy saw media reports about how the two medical workers were quickly cured here in America and decided to get here (by lying) to save his own life.  Very natural human reaction to being faced with certain death...you take whatever "out" you can from the situation.  He's the first to try this and I'm pretty certain after this, and the internal reaction here in the country, this will change dramatically...and very soon - people are heading to the polls next month.

What is the scariest part to me is the number of potential exposures and the fact that it is the nature of viruses to mutate in new environments as they defend themselves in those new environments. What we know about defeating the disease may have to race to catch up if the virus mutates here.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 05:58:50 pm
Standard ad hominem attack I would expect from people who see a conspiracy around every corner.  You aren't even worth my time or effort as there is clearly no way to have any level of a logical discussion with you.  All you want to do is attack and believe the latest tin foil hat bullshit being posted on blogs by people living in a bunker.

Hmmm, looks like a 'standard ad hominem attack'...


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 06:01:08 pm
What is the scariest part to me is the number of potential exposures and the fact that it is the nature of viruses to mutate in new environments as they defend themselves in those new environments.  What we know about defeating the disease may have to race to catch up if the virus mutates here.

Natural mutation doesn't worry me.

Genetically-engineered mutation would be another story...


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 02, 2014, 06:12:40 pm
Standard ad hominem attack I would expect from people who see a conspiracy around every corner.  You aren't even worth my time or effort as there is clearly no way to have any level of a logical discussion with you.  All you want to do is attack and believe the latest tin foil hat bullshit being posted on blogs by people living in a bunker.

Your sanctimony is getting old, AC.

Can you 'say' Fukushima?   You kept belittling everybody when they showed a high degree of concern...and time has proven you....WRONG.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 02, 2014, 06:39:30 pm
Whatever the source - common sense tells me if he was in close contact with a woman that died that evening from ebola - he had to have known he was exposed to it before he came here.

Now, did he intentionally expose himself to come here for a Jihad mission?  Or, did he realize that he was doomed to die from it in Liberia and he would have a better chance to be treated and to survive over here? 

What blows my mind is that the hospital (especially being in Texas where all kinds of people are coming in unchecked from third world countried) did not take this man seriously enough to keep him in the hospital the first time.  They had to have known that this man was not an American citizen - they always make me do paperwork when I go to the hospital.  This is mind-boggling!

This man knowingly had close contact with a woman who died...just prior to getting on a plane.

he quit his job at Fedex...without giving any reason and purposefully came to see his relatives in Texas.  They had been in contact with him telling him he could come to Texas and live with them.

...his family is most likely already here...on expired visas.

He should be tried and executed.  And Texas is just the place for that to happen.
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 02, 2014, 06:43:32 pm
Furthermore.....does anybody remember this?



CDC Shuts Down Bioterror & Flu Labs After Discovering 327 Vials of Deadly Pathogens Misplaced

Published August 24, 2014, filed under GOVERNMENT, HEALTH

By: James Franklin

The Center for Disease Control (CDC) is conducting a nationwide search of its cold storage units after discovering vials of smallpox in a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) cold storage room at the National Institutes of Health facility in Bethesda, Maryland. Along with the vials of smallpox were 327 other pathogens including vials labeled for dengue, influenza, and rickettsia. This news comes as the CDC is under multiple investigations for unsafe practices. In response to the news Richard H. Ebright, a professor of chemistry and chemical biology at Rutgers University remarked “It is ironic that the institution that sets U.S. standards for safety and security of work with human pathogens fails to meet its own standards.”

more at:

http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/08/24/cdc-shuts-down-bioterror-flu-labs-after-discovering-327-vials-of-deadly-pathogens-misplaced-2/ (http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/08/24/cdc-shuts-down-bioterror-flu-labs-after-discovering-327-vials-of-deadly-pathogens-misplaced-2/)

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Makes for a possible October surprise...to postpone the mid-term elections, doesn't it?    :shrug:
Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: GourmetDan on October 02, 2014, 06:58:21 pm
“It is ironic that the institution that sets U.S. standards for safety and security of work with human pathogens fails to meet its own standards.”

More like S.O.P. ...


Title: Re: CDC Confirms First US Ebola Case in Dallas
Post by: DCPatriot on October 03, 2014, 01:16:37 pm
(http://moonbattery.com/graphics/Ebola-Epiphany.jpg)