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Title: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: mystery-ak on April 17, 2024, 09:07:07 pm
Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’

Pam Key 17 Apr 2024

Former Attorney General Bill Barr said Wednesday on Fox News Channel’s “America’s Newsroom” that he will support Donald Trump in November.

Barr said, “The real threat to liberty, the real threat to our system, are the excesses of the progressive left. They are perverting the system of justice and that’s where the danger lies. The corruption and subversion of our institutions by the left.”

Co-host Bill Hemmer said, “I heard you call this hush money case outrageous. I also know you’ve been asked many times and had disagreements with the former president. He is the presumptive nominee and we assume he will be the nominee. Will you support him in 2024?”

Barr said, “I’ve said all along given two bad choices, I think it’s my duty to pick the person I think would do the least harm to the country and in my mind that’s — I will vote the Republican ticket. I will support the Republican ticket.”

He added, “I think the real danger to the country, the real danger to democracy, as I say, is the progressive agenda and I’ve said Trump may be playing Russian roulette, but continuation of the Biden administration is national suicide in my opinion.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/04/17/barr-ill-vote-for-trump-because-continuing-biden-is-national-suicide/
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: mystery-ak on April 17, 2024, 09:07:33 pm
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Barr said, “I’ve said all along given two bad choices, I think it’s my duty to pick the person I think would do the least harm to the country and in my mind that’s — I will vote the Republican ticket. I will support the Republican ticket.”

Dittoes...
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on April 17, 2024, 09:20:26 pm
Unfortunately, not enough voters recognize this. We're getting another Biden term and who knows who will end up sitting in the Oval once they've secured 4 more years?
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 17, 2024, 10:04:33 pm
Unfortunately, not enough voters recognize this. We're getting another Biden term and who knows who will end up sitting in the Oval once they've secured 4 more years?

Too bad Barr spent all that time talking smack about his boss in 2021.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Bigun on April 17, 2024, 11:28:50 pm
Too bad Barr spent all that time talking smack about his boss in 2021.

 :yowsa: But what he said here is true.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on April 18, 2024, 12:06:18 am
:yowsa: But what he said here is true.

@Bigun

He needs to now make a concerted effort to counter whatever damage he did in dissing Trump.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 18, 2024, 12:27:55 am
@Bigun

He needs to now make a concerted effort to counter whatever damage he did in dissing Trump.

Hopefully it's impossible.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: banddag on April 18, 2024, 12:35:38 am
Biden is going to step down at the DNC convention and a moderate democrat governor  from  a  red state will be appointed like Any Beshear from KY or Laura Kelly from Kansas.
Bill Clinton 2.0

Trump will not know what hit him.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: LMAO on April 18, 2024, 12:41:11 am
Biden is going to step down at the DNC convention and a moderate democrat governor  from  a  red state will be appointed like Any Beshear from KY or Laura Kelly from Kansas.
Bill Clinton 2.0

Trump will not know what hit him.

In the unlikely event your scenario happens, have  either one of those two you named shown any interest in a national office?
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Wingnut on April 18, 2024, 12:44:13 am
Biden is going to step down at the DNC convention and a moderate democrat governor  from  a  red state will be appointed like Any Beshear from KY or Laura Kelly from Kansas.
Bill Clinton 2.0

Trump will not know what hit him.

Put down the crack pipe.  Or add a /s tag.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 18, 2024, 01:14:40 am
And which one let Newsom and Cuomo lock the country down in March 2020 again? Spare me all this talk about how he's least dangerous. He crossed a line. I will never forget nor forgive him, especially since he's never said he was sorry.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: banddag on April 18, 2024, 01:20:49 am
In the unlikely event your scenario happens, have  either one of those two you named shown any interest in a national office?
You have no idea what is happening behind the scenes. . Only 25% of democrats want Biden. Biden is in on it
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: LMAO on April 18, 2024, 01:26:07 am
You have no idea what is happening behind the scenes. . Only 25% of democrats want Biden. Biden is in on it

We’ll see who’ll be right in the coming months

But as of now, I see no sign of him stepping now. He’s raising lots  of money and he is out campaigning . He may be sputtering, mumbling, shuffling. But he’s campaigning
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on April 18, 2024, 01:28:35 am
And which one let Newsom and Cuomo lock the country down in March 2020 again? Spare me all this talk about how he's least dangerous. He crossed a line. I will never forget nor forgive him, especially since he's never said he was sorry.

Again, I say that we're getting another Biden term and who knows who will end up sitting in the Oval once they've secured 4 more years?

But I'm so glad for you, @jmyrlefuller! You can enjoy your revenge during the Dem administration. And all the ones after that. There will be many years for celebration for you and the others, but mercifully, I'm old and won't have to endure the dismantling of our republic that much longer.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: banddag on April 18, 2024, 01:37:45 am
We’ll see who’ll be right in the coming months

But as of now, I see no sign of him stepping now. He’s raising lots  of money and he is out campaigning . He may be sputtering, mumbling, shuffling. But he’s campaigning
Biden cannot quit now. He would be a huge lame duck. It will be done at the last moment
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 18, 2024, 09:12:58 pm
Again, I say that we're getting another Biden term and who knows who will end up sitting in the Oval once they've secured 4 more years?

But I'm so glad for you, @jmyrlefuller! You can enjoy your revenge during the Dem administration. And all the ones after that. There will be many years for celebration for you and the others, but mercifully, I'm old and won't have to endure the dismantling of our republic that much longer.
You think I'm celebrating not having anyone I can vote for yet again? Nobody who represents my values? Nobody who will run this country the right way? Do you think I WANT the kooks who are in charge now, still in charge? Of course not. But the Republicans at this point are no better. Your star Senate candidate is Larry Hogan, who went along with the lockdowns hook, line and sinker. Spare me.

Revenge will be when all these crooks, Democrat and Republican, are never able to sniff a national or state capital ever again.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: roamer_1 on April 18, 2024, 09:19:26 pm
Again, I say that we're getting another Biden term and who knows who will end up sitting in the Oval once they've secured 4 more years?

But I'm so glad for you, @jmyrlefuller! You can enjoy your revenge during the Dem administration. And all the ones after that. There will be many years for celebration for you and the others, but mercifully, I'm old and won't have to endure the dismantling of our republic that much longer.

Why would you frame it like that? Do you think you can shame him into casting away his beliefs?
That is a ridiculous fabrication.

I certainly am not operating in any sort of vengeance.
I just can't stand the stench.

Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: AllThatJazzZ on April 18, 2024, 09:37:28 pm
@jmyrlefuller
@roamer_1

The difference between y'all and me is that I can accept the reality of a flawed candidate if the alternative is Joe Biden (or any Dem who will step in to build on what Biden has already destroyed). I can wait until the Republican ship can be turned back to more conservative tenets when the alternative means that Dems will be entrenched for so many years, the Republican party could end up as a footnote in the history books.

Y'all believe, for whatever reason, that 4 more years of Biden won't crumble the Republic. Either that or you believe that Trump would crumble it as much as Biden and that Republican/conservatives will live to right the ship. I'm neither optimistic nor pessimistic. I'm just realistic. As I said before, because of my advanced age, I most likely won't have to witness the worst of it. 
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: roamer_1 on April 18, 2024, 11:00:37 pm

The difference between y'all and me is that I can accept the reality of a flawed candidate if the alternative is Joe Biden (or any Dem who will step in to build on what Biden has already destroyed). I can wait until the Republican ship can be turned back to more conservative tenets when the alternative means that Dems will be entrenched for so many years, the Republican party could end up as a footnote in the history books.

Y'all believe, for whatever reason, that 4 more years of Biden won't crumble the Republic. Either that or you believe that Trump would crumble it as much as Biden and that Republican/conservatives will live to right the ship. I'm neither optimistic nor pessimistic. I'm just realistic. As I said before, because of my advanced age, I most likely won't have to witness the worst of it.

I guess I land more in the latter paragraph... The only defense against the left - and I do mean the only defense - IS the Right.

The reason the left is winning is because it has no opposition (which ought to be offered on the Right).
The Right should be doing battle (at the very least, figuratively) against the left.

Y'all are not. Y'all invite the left into the right.
To some degree that is natural.
But to this degree, the stench becomes unbearable.

When I am asked to vote for liberalism coming from the right, the answer will always be an adamant 'NO'.
Because the more the Right is allowed to drift left, the harder it will be to form an opposition - because the so-called right will be espousing the same doctrine as the left.

And that's where we are right now.
Y'all are so close to the left that I can't tell an appreciable difference.


And you're alright with that.
I am not.

And so it goes. That's what voting is for. Y'all go do your thing. It ain't my thing. If y'all want my help, you'll have to come a hella lot more to the right.

And don't supose you're fighting anything. Y'all are letting em in. Right through the front door.


Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 18, 2024, 11:21:04 pm
I guess I land more in the latter paragraph... The only defense against the left - and I do mean the only defense - IS the Right.

The reason the left is winning is because it has no opposition (which ought to be offered on the Right).
The Right should be doing battle (at the very least, figuratively) against the left.

Y'all are not. Y'all invite the left into the right.
To some degree that is natural.
But to this degree, the stench becomes unbearable.

When I am asked to vote for liberalism coming from the right, the answer will always be an adamant 'NO'.
Because the more the Right is allowed to drift left, the harder it will be to form an opposition - because the so-called right will be espousing the same doctrine as the left.

And that's where we are right now.
Y'all are so close to the left that I can't tell an appreciable difference.


And you're alright with that.
I am not.

And so it goes. That's what voting is for. Y'all go do your thing. It ain't my thing. If y'all want my help, you'll have to come a hella lot more to the right.

And don't supose you're fighting anything. Y'all are letting em in. Right through the front door.

 :amen:
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 19, 2024, 12:42:23 am
@jmyrlefuller
@roamer_1

The difference between y'all and me is that I can accept the reality of a flawed candidate if the alternative is Joe Biden (or any Dem who will step in to build on what Biden has already destroyed). I can wait until the Republican ship can be turned back to more conservative tenets when the alternative means that Dems will be entrenched for so many years, the Republican party could end up as a footnote in the history books.

Y'all believe, for whatever reason, that 4 more years of Biden won't crumble the Republic. Either that or you believe that Trump would crumble it as much as Biden and that Republican/conservatives will live to right the ship. I'm neither optimistic nor pessimistic. I'm just realistic. As I said before, because of my advanced age, I most likely won't have to witness the worst of it.
This is partisan thinking at its worst. "Oh, I don't care if Trump shoots a guy on Fifth Avenue. He has an R next to his name, so he can't be worse than the Democrat!"

He is. And quite frankly, the clown show in the House of Representatives shows they all are.

I am so bleeping sick of partisanism. You saw what Donald Trump did. I saw it. And you have the unmitigated gall to want four more years of that? Four more years of lockdowns, four more years of destroyed opportunities, declining marriage rates, declining birth rates (both of which in no small part to a court ruling his appointees passed and has had a direct blocking effect on people like me who are blackballed from the dating pool for being conservative), complete lack of housing any reasonable person can afford, runaway national debt, moral decrepitude (huh, nonbinary didn't even seem to exist before Trump got into office)... and you expect me to want to vote for that???

Yeah, you're old. You don't have to see the destruction. You probably have another generation you've brought into this world. You did your part, I never will get that chance, thanks to you all. So you can have your partisan greed, destroying the lives of people like me. Don't drag me into it.

Notice I'm the only guy left on this board under 40? Yeah. Nobody's going along with this garbage. I'm alone. I hate it. Is it any wonder I'm in the poor mental state I'm in?
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on April 19, 2024, 01:38:10 am
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I challenge Bill Barr and Lindsey Graham to a flip-flop duel. May the flippiest flop win.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Wingnut on April 19, 2024, 11:43:56 am
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I challenge Bill Barr and Lindsey Graham to a flip-flop duel. May the flippiest flop win.

I have some rusty old pop tops laying around...
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 19, 2024, 04:57:57 pm
This is partisan thinking at its worst. "Oh, I don't care if Trump shoots a guy on Fifth Avenue. He has an R next to his name, so he can't be worse than the Democrat!"

He is. And quite frankly, the clown show in the House of Representatives shows they all are.

I am so bleeping sick of partisanism
.

Maybe there are milder forms of partisanship that are fine, but what has happened now is that a great many people reflexively defend/support statements or actions solely because someone on "our side" did or did it, and they oppose criticize something solely because it has been supported by the "other side".

So they'll oppose aid to Ukraine solely because Biden supports it.  Or they'll oppose any more funds to Ukraine because Trump does, only until the moment Trump decides that forgiveable loans are fine, at which point they'll flip their position without batting an eye.

We should support or oppose actions, and defend or criticize statements, based not upon who did or said it, but upon the substance.  And that seems to have been lost by many, especially the die-hard MAGA types.

Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Bigun on April 19, 2024, 05:14:41 pm
Maybe there are milder forms of partisanship that are fine, but what has happened now is that a great many people reflexively defend/support statements or actions solely because someone on "our side" did or did it, and they oppose criticize something solely because it has been supported by the "other side".

So they'll oppose aid to Ukraine solely because Biden supports it.  Or they'll oppose any more funds to Ukraine because Trump does, only until the moment Trump decides that forgiveable loans are fine, at which point they'll flip their position without batting an eye.

We should support or oppose actions, and defend or criticize statements, based not upon who did or said it, but upon the substance.  And that seems to have been lost by many, especially the die-hard MAGA types.

And some of us oppose more $$$ for Ukraine because major portions of it winds up in the wrong pockets in Ukraine and the United States.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: LMAO on April 19, 2024, 05:25:12 pm


We should support or oppose actions, and defend or criticize statements, based not upon who did or said it, but upon the substance.  And that seems to have been lost by many, especially the die-hard MAGA types.

 :yowsa:

Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2024, 05:42:25 pm

I am so bleeping sick of partisanism. You saw what Donald Trump did. I saw it. And you have the unmitigated gall to want four more years of that?

Four more years of lockdowns, four more years of destroyed opportunities, declining marriage rates, declining birth rates (both of which in no small part to a court ruling his appointees passed and has had a direct blocking effect on people like me who are blackballed from the dating pool for being conservative) .... and you expect me to want to vote for that???

I don't expect anything from you @jmyrlefuller   But, if it helps, please remember Donald Trump is not the reason you can't find a date.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 19, 2024, 06:24:34 pm
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I challenge Bill Barr and Lindsey Graham to a flip-flop duel. May the flippiest flop win.

I don't think Barr has actually flip-flopped.  He still thinks Trump is very bad.  He just thinks Biden and the left are much worse.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 19, 2024, 06:27:06 pm
And some of us oppose more $$$ for Ukraine because major portions of it winds up in the wrong pockets in Ukraine and the United States.

And that's fine.  I disagree with that as a matter.of policy, but I get it.

But do you think that those of us who do support it are "pro-Biden", or "tools of the Democrats", etc ?  Or do we just disagree on that issue?

I assume you disagree with Trump's recent statements supporting money for Ukraine in the form of loans that can be forgiven?
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Bigun on April 19, 2024, 06:34:49 pm
And that's fine.  I disagree with that as a matter.of policy, but I get it.

But do you think that those of us who do support it are "pro-Biden", or "tools of the Democrats", etc ?  Or do we just disagree on that issue?

I assume you disagree with Trump's recent statements supporting money for Ukraine in the form of loans that can be forgiven?

I think those who support giving more $$$ (not military aide) to Ukraine are the tools of politicians of all stripes.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2024, 07:08:50 pm
I don't think Barr has actually flip-flopped.  He still thinks Trump is very bad.  He just thinks Biden and the left are much worse.

Then he should have STFU about it in 2021.  If we knew Sloe Joe was going to be a disaster, so did Barr.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2024, 08:06:34 pm
This is partisan thinking at its worst. "Oh, I don't care if Trump shoots a guy on Fifth Avenue. He has an R next to his name, so he can't be worse than the Democrat!"

He is. And quite frankly, the clown show in the House of Representatives shows they all are.

I am so bleeping sick of partisanism. You saw what Donald Trump did. I saw it. And you have the unmitigated gall to want four more years of that? Four more years of lockdowns, four more years of destroyed opportunities, declining marriage rates, declining birth rates (both of which in no small part to a court ruling his appointees passed and has had a direct blocking effect on people like me who are blackballed from the dating pool for being conservative), complete lack of housing any reasonable person can afford, runaway national debt, moral decrepitude (huh, nonbinary didn't even seem to exist before Trump got into office)... and you expect me to want to vote for that???

Yeah, you're old. You don't have to see the destruction. You probably have another generation you've brought into this world. You did your part, I never will get that chance, thanks to you all. So you can have your partisan greed, destroying the lives of people like me. Don't drag me into it.

Notice I'm the only guy left on this board under 40? Yeah. Nobody's going along with this garbage. I'm alone. I hate it. Is it any wonder I'm in the poor mental state I'm in?

Speaking for myself, I may be older than you, but certainly I see the destruction, I see the moral decay, I see the decline in the American dreams of home and families.  However, this is NOT Trump's fault this has been going on for decades.

Liberal indoctrination of our youth by the liberal school system, ads on TV, etc., are at fault. Failure of conservative voters to hold conservatives responsible is at fault.

Voting conservative was at one point an option; obviously since the last election was stolen, I don't believe there is any remedy at the ballot box.  I don't believe there is anything that can be done unless the younger generation puts a stop to it.  Of course that's not going to be a popular idea; quite the opposite. 

Watching a country that I grew up loving and with patriotism being instilled in me, being destroyed is greatly disturbing.  I myself cannot change it alone.  You yourself cannot change it alone.  It has to be done collectively on a grand scale.  Someone needs to pave the way. I don't know if that person exists and if they do, the left will do everything to destroy them. Each of us has to stand up for what we believe in.

I once tried to enlighten people about the ramifications of ILLEGAL immigration years ago.  I was called a racist, spat at, had my car door kicked in and even speaking to conservative clubs and groups I was told that conservatives would never gain  any ground unless they leaned more to the center.  They were dead wrong and that is why in part we have the problems that we do.

I don't have any answers. I'm aghast at what is happening. Pray. Pray and Pray. I would suggest that you try to mediate on positive thoughts; be it a seascape, valley of wild flowers, stars in the sky; something to take your mind off of the negative.

Try to get a grip.  Trump has a lot of faults I agree, but he is NOT responsible for decades of liberal indoctrination nor the liberal stranglehold on this country.

Will I vote for him?  At this point in time, NO.  I still plan to vote down ballot for conservatives.  Do I think it's going to make a difference?  Not really, but I can't vote for someone who I don't believe is going to make the situation any better.  OTH; he will be the GOP nominee; and that is all conservatives have to work with as far as a president.

Tomorrow is a new day.  HOPE IS ESSENTIAL!
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 19, 2024, 09:19:15 pm
Then he should have STFU about it in 2021.  If we knew Sloe Joe was going to be a disaster, so did Barr.
I think Barr has his finger in the wind. He doesn't stand for anything, imho.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 19, 2024, 09:43:20 pm
I think Barr has his finger in the wind. He doesn't stand for anything, imho.

Trump would be an idiot if he lets Barr into any position in the next Administration.
Title: Re: Barr: I’ll Vote for Trump Because Continuing Biden Is ‘National Suicide’
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 25, 2024, 05:13:09 am
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