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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Carling on June 10, 2014, 11:56:53 pm
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http://twitchy.com/2014/06/10/truly-stunned-eric-cantor-getting-clobbered-in-virginia-dave-brat-shows-early-lead/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
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‘Truly stunned’: Eric Cantor getting clobbered in Virginia; Dave Brat shows early lead
Posted at 7:46 pm on June 10, 2014 by Twitchy Staff |
Cantor looks cooked to me. Truly stunned. Low turnout+Immigration issue+ story of current border crisis=perfect storm for Brat
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Chuck Todd (@chucktodd) June 10, 2014
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor might be sweating it out watching the election returns in Virginia tonight. Tea Party challenger Dave Brat is enjoying a comfortable early lead in the polls.
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D. Brat 56.1% 29,842
E. Cantor (i) 43.9% 23,310
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My thread was first. MERGE! :beer:
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We don't want amnesty Eric......get the message!
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What!? This is series!
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Caveat emptor: the early returns are not always indicative of the final outcome in these things, since the early ones often are the smaller precincts where, logically, the Tea Party has stronger roots.
If this holds, however… it will show that the Tea Party is far from dead-- again. There are still, however, major obstacles. They have to figure out how to effectively challenge the likes of McConnell and Graham, professional politicians, even if they see it coming. It's clear that Cantor did not see Dave Brat as a threat, whereas McConnell went to extreme lengths to neuter Bevin and Graham has cut off as many potential challengers as he could.
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The amnesty push has boggled my mind when it pops up every now and then. If you want to reform immigration, at least wait until AFTER the mid-terms, where the GOP should have much more leverage in congress to work with Obummer on some sort of compromised plan where illegals don't get to vote, ever, even if amnestied.
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The amnesty push has boggled my mind when it pops up every now and then. If you want to reform immigration, at least wait until AFTER the mid-terms, where the GOP should have much more leverage in congress to work with Obummer on some sort of compromised plan where illegals don't get to vote, ever, even if amnestied.
Democrats will settle for nothing less than full citizenship and voting rights.
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Winner D. Brat 55.8% 32,694
E. Cantor (i) 44.2% 25,941
Precincts Reporting: 86.1%
Updated: 8:07 PM ET
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AP just called race for Brat.
DOWN GOES CANTOR!!!
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DC ROCKED: CANTOR LOSES PRIMARY
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This result is HUGE nationally. Way to go, Tea Party!!! :beer:
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Yeah let's grant these thugs amnesty
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Tea Party alive and well...bye bye Eric
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I have given the Tea Party a hard time for running dumb campaigns that can't be won in a general (Angle/O'Donnell/Akin), but Brat will win this district, and the GOP will be better off for it. Remember when just a few years ago Cantor was seen as a VP candidate, and potential future president? This is HUGE.
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Wow!! This is a big win, congrats to Brat!! :patriot:
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There there, Eric. Under the bus you go.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/eric-cantor-primary-election-results-virginia-107683.html?hp=t1 (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/eric-cantor-primary-election-results-virginia-107683.html?hp=t1)
CANTOR LOSES
By: Jake Sherman
June 10, 2014 08:03 PM EDT
RICHMOND, Va. — Dave Brat, a local economics professor, toppled House Majority Leader Eric Cantor on Tuesday night in the most shocking primary defeat since Republicans took the House in 2010.
The conservative challenger’s victory halts one of the most meteoric rises in national politics, and illustrates the strong anti-incumbent fever that has taken over Cantor’s Richmond-area district. Cantor is the second House incumbent to lose this primary season — Texas GOP incumbent Ralph Hall was defeated by a tea-party backed challenger at the end of May.
Cantor’s defeat not only reorders Virginia politics, where Cantor was the highest-ranking Republican, but it completely throws the House Republican leadership into flux. Cantor, 51, was long seen as the next speaker of the House after John Boehner retires.
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DC ROCKED: CANTOR LOSES PRIMARY
I doubt that many realize just how rocked! This is GREAT news on many fronts!
And BTW: Rumors of the death of the TEA party have been GREATLY exaggerated!
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South Carolina
L. Graham (i) 63.4% 24,879
L. Bright 11.4% 4,475
D. Bowers 7.2% 2,826
R. Cash 6.7% 2,644
N. Mace 5.8% 2,289
B. Connor 4.4% 1,725
B. Dunn 1.0% 385
Precincts Reporting: 11.1%
little chance of a twofer here...
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I doubt that many realize just how rocked! This is GREAT news on many fronts!
Wow. The Tea Party doesn't have to win everywhere, just a few highly symbolic victories will change things in a big way. I still worry about amnesty, though. Now Eric and Boehner might feel they have nothing to lose by allowing the vote to go forward in the remainder of this session.
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Tea Party alive and well...bye bye Eric
:hands: :hands: :hands: :hands:
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Brat didn't run on social conservatism, he ran on fiscal conservatism as well as the implications of amnesty.
He is what the Tea Party was about when it started.
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South Carolina
L. Graham (i) 63.4% 24,879
L. Bright 11.4% 4,475
D. Bowers 7.2% 2,826
R. Cash 6.7% 2,644
N. Mace 5.8% 2,289
B. Connor 4.4% 1,725
B. Dunn 1.0% 385
Precincts Reporting: 11.1%
little chance of a twofer here...
I can never understand why so many candidates enter a primary if they want to try to remove the incumbent. You would think that they could put their own personal interests aside and agree to let the guy/gal with the best chance go for it....
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I can never understand why so many candidates enter a primary if they want to try to remove the incumbent. You would think that they could put their own personal interests aside and agree to let the guy/gal with the best chance go for it....
Ego, and I suspect a few are paid plants by Grahamnesty.
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Trey Gowdy Majority Leader? :0001: :xedfingers:
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Wow. The Tea Party doesn't have to win everywhere, just a few highly symbolic victories will change things in a big way. I still worry about amnesty, though. Now Eric and Boehner might feel they have nothing to lose by allowing the vote to go forward in the remainder of this session.
That would be a move to make only if Boehner wants to lose the majority and his Speakership. :whistle:
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/10/Earthquake-Eric-Cantor-Caught-Everybody-By-Surprise (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/10/Earthquake-Eric-Cantor-Caught-Everybody-By-Surprise)
Earthquake: The Cantor Story That Caught The Political World By Surprise
by Jonathan Strong 10 Jun 2014, 5:11 PM PDT
Earlier today in the Capitol, Majority Leader Eric Cantor's press aides did not seem the least bit perturbed. Virginia political guru Larry Sabato's political newsletter said the question was whether he would get 60 percent. Even Breitbart – one of the only publications to cover the race seriously – downplayed primary challenger David Brat's chances of victory.
But as the results began to stream in, the entire political world watched with utter shock: the sitting Majority Leader was being deposed by a political novice economics professor with no money.
In a election cycle about the Establishment striking back, one of the most shocking electoral upsets in modern history happened while the the political world was yawning.
The story about how David Brat pulled off such a monumental surprise win starts, and almost ends, with immigration. Throughout the campaign, Brat was relentless in his attacks on Cantor over the issue. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of illegal alien children were streaming across the border, creating a border security crisis.
Cantor was ham-handed in his handling of the issue. He quietly backed an effort to pass the “ENLIST Act,” which would grant amnesty to “DREAMers” who enlist in the military, then turned sharply and took credit for blocking it from a floor vote. He issued campaign literature touting himself as an anti-amnesty warrior, then took to a radio interview to call the principles of the DREAM Act “biblical.”
Meanwhile, Brat took every opportunity to drive the issue home, even engaging in wild hyperbole towards the end of the campaign. (He said no member of Congress had done more to enact amnesty than Cantor, for example, leaving behind immigration stalwarts like Chuck Schumer.)
Cantor's attack ads on Brat also seemed to land with a thud. They accused Brat of working with Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine to raise taxes because Kaine had appointed him to a board of economic advisers. But the board, it turned out, was a macroeconomic forecasting panel – not something that had anything to do with policy.
Perhaps the most staggering fact about the upset is that Cantor did not, even remotely, take the race for granted. He spent millions and campaigned hard. Many of the incumbents who have lost their seats didn't realize the threat was coming until it was there. Cantor seemed to know what he was facing, just not how to handle it.
The Brat victory leaves a giant vacuum in House leadership, something that will be resolved over the coming weeks and months. In the meantime, the premature obituaries of the Tea Party's political prowess are as dead as Eric Cantor's political career.
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Jedediah Bila @JedediahBila 10s
Never, ever underestimate the power of the grassroots.
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Wow. I mean really, wow.
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From the article:
In the meantime, the premature obituaries of the Tea Party's political prowess are as dead as Eric Cantor's political career.
Worth repeating--often! 88devil
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jimgeraghty @jimgeraghty 12m
We have an immigration consensus among business community, activists, lobbyists, the media… everybody except the folks who actually vote.
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Sen. Tim Scott wins GOP primary in South Carolina
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Man a lot has happened since this:
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Boehner is next.
You know, I got to the point where I did not believe American elections were actually real. I guess they are in some cases?
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Jim Antle @jimantle 5m
As big of a win as this is for Tea Party and amnesty foes, I have to think outcome could have been different if Cantor saw it coming.
Kirsten Powers @KirstenPowers 2m
On Fox News, @BretBaier: "This is a big, big win for the Tea Party"
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Sen. Tim Scott wins GOP primary in South Carolina
That was an easy one. The media couldn't find his opponent to even interview :silly:
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Fox babbling that this means amnesty is dead and Republicans will lose the 2016 election because they'll now be afraid to vote for amnesty.
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The view from Cantor HQ tonight
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And Fox now spewing that Democrats are just thrilled because this means the Republican Party are the Tea Party extremists and Democrats can beat them easily.
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I have to say I didn't see this coming. Of course, I've been checking out of the races this go around. I'm getting sick of politics.
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Erick Erickson @EWErickson 22m
Dear Media: you will make the Cantor loss all about immigration. You will be wrong. But it will be useful to us. So thanks.
Cantor is the first House Majority Leader to lose since 1899
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Cantor is the first House Majority Leader to lose since 1899
Robert Costa @costareports 1m
Cantor's friends are FURIOUS, said he was told by consultants that he was up 20-30 points, didn't need to worry...
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Rep. Steve Stockman @SteveWorks4You 26m
I want to thank Eric Cantor for his service, but this should be wake-up call to GOP leadership. No one is safe if they abandon principle.
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Vox @voxdotcom 2m
Cantor out-fundraised Brat by a 25-to-1 margin and lost anyway
Matt Barber @jmattbarber 1m
Watch out RINO Republicans and Marxist Democrats. America called and she wants her freedom back
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Ego, and I suspect a few are paid plants by Grahamnesty.
Yes, Ego is what does it. I'm not sure about the plants, could always be......
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And Fox now spewing that Democrats are just thrilled because this means the Republican Party are the Tea Party extremists and Democrats can beat them easily.
With any luck this will shake a few people up where it counts. The next step is to get a GOP chairman that can run a campaign. Time for Reince to go as well.
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Fox babbling that this means amnesty is dead and Republicans will lose the 2016 election because they'll now be afraid to vote for amnesty.
Amnesty may have just become the third rail of politics. :pondering:
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Vox @voxdotcom 2m
Cantor out-fundraised Brat by a 25-to-1 margin and lost anyway
And Brat won BIG!
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Fox babbling that this means amnesty is dead and Republicans will lose the 2016 election because they'll now be afraid to vote for amnesty.
FNC became unwatchable until they had Coulter and Ingraham come on...... FNC is rapidly becoming the voice of the GOPe.
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And Fox now spewing that Democrats are just thrilled because this means the Republican Party are the Tea Party extremists and Democrats can beat them easily.
Spewing GOPe crap is what FNC does, with few exceptions.
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That would be a move to make only if Boehner wants to lose the majority and his Speakership. :whistle:
Exactly right!!! :beer:
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Rep. Steve Stockman @SteveWorks4You 26m
I want to thank Eric Cantor for his service, but this should be wake-up call to GOP leadership. No one is safe if they abandon principle.
That bears repeating!
No one is safe if they abandon principle
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STFU Hume. Any "patch to citizenship" is amnesty.
Go back and kiss some more GOPe ass.
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Vox @voxdotcom 2m
Cantor out-fundraised Brat by a 25-to-1 margin and lost anyway
And this alone will send shockwaves through the inside the beltway crowd!
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That bears repeating!
No one is safe if they abandon principle
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STFU Hume. Any "patch to citizenship" is amnesty.
Go back and kiss some more GOPe ass.
They don't get it, WtP don't want any IR, NONE!!!!
We want the border SEALED and existing LAWS enforced!!!!
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That bears repeating!
No one is safe if they abandon principle
I wish we could have done this to Mitch McConnell. 8888crybaby
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I have to say I didn't see this coming. Of course, I've been checking out of the races this go around. I'm getting sick of politics.
It goes in cycles for me. I can take just so much of this crap before my brain automatically kicks in the Andy Griffith Show marathon mode.
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Graham wins too...
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I wish we could have done this to Mitch McConnell. 8888crybaby
As I've posted numerous times before, it's much easier to primary House GOP members than it is to get an entire state to join in on that message.
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This is outstanding news!!! Hope the rest of the establishment wakes up!!! No amnesty!!! :patriot:
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They don't get it, WtP don't want any IR, NONE!!!!
We want the border SEALED and existing LAWS enforced!!!!
B I N G O ! ! !
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And this alone will send shockwaves through the inside the beltway crowd!
Sadly, for most their greatest fear will be the prospect of having to negotiate their personal landscaping services with English-speaking persons who request wage statements at year's end.
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THIS IS HUGE!!!!!
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The spin now is that Brat won because of Democrat crossover votes, because they want to run against the "racist Tea Party guy" in November.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/10/eric-cantor-s-primary-loss-is-a-political-earthquake-and-it-s-awful.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/10/eric-cantor-s-primary-loss-is-a-political-earthquake-and-it-s-awful.html)
Eric Cantor’s Primary Loss Is a Political Earthquake. And It’s Awful.
How did the No. 2 man in the House lose a primary? Chalk it up to immigration and the Tea Party. It’s one of the most shocking losses in U.S. electoral history—and it’s bad for America.
Here’s the thing: Eric Cantor did not fall asleep in this race. He spent around $5 million. He ran lots of TV ads. He knew this was going to be a close one. He campaigned. And he still got creamed.
And here’s the other thing: Cantor was not an enemy of the Tea Party. He was in fact the Tea Party’s guy in the leadership for much of the Barack Obama era. He carried the tea into the speaker’s office. And still he got creamed.
Creamed! Has a party leader ever lost a primary like this? Stop and take this in. Like any political journalist, I’m a little bit of a historian of this sort of thing, although I readily admit my knowledge isn’t encyclopedic. But I sure can’t think of anything. Tom Foley, the Democratic House speaker in the early 1990s, lost reelection while he was speaker, but that was in the general, to a Republican, which is a whole different ballgame. And he was the first sitting speaker to lose an election since…get this…1862! But a primary? The No. 2 man in the House, losing a primary?
So what happened here? Obviously, first, it’s about immigration. That was David Brat’s (that’s the guy who won) whole campaign: Cantor was a liberal who supported a path to citizenship for the swarthy illegals. (He didn’t say that, of course, at least the swarthy part.) Immigration reform is D-E-A-D. There is no chance the House will touch it. That means it’s dead for this Congress, which means that next Congress, the Senate would have to take the lead in passing it again. (The Senate’s passage of the current bill expires when this Congress ends.) And the Senate isn’t going to touch it in the next Congress, even if the Democrats hold on to the majority. Those handful of Republicans who backed reform last year will be terrified to do so. And it’s difficult to say when immigration reform might have another shot. Maybe the first two years of President Clinton’s second term. Maybe.
Second, the reports of the Tea Party’s death are…well, you know. Cantor’s loss is a huge disruption of the narrative that the Republican establishment had taken control this year. And throw in the coming Chris McDaniel-Thad Cochran runoff in the Mississippi Senate race, which many now expect Tea Partier McDaniel to win, and you have a narrative in which the Tea Party can say, “We’re still calling the shots.” Cantor also has spent the past couple of years talking about education, which, any Tea Party person knows, is code for black, city, unions. Other Republicans in the House won’t miss that message, and they won’t try to carve out any “interesting” legislative profiles for themselves.
Third, what does it mean for the country? Hard to say yet, but bad, surely. The House GOP wasn’t exactly ready to start cutting deals with Obama even with Cantor in the leadership. Now that he’s been beaten by a right-winger…no one, not a single Republican in the House will take a chance on anything. The legislative process, already shut down, will only be more so.
And Brat himself, fourth, is a star overnight. I’d hate to be his booker or scheduler. His Wednesday is going to be a roller-coaster ride from Rush Limbaugh to Fox to Laura Ingraham to who knows what. He is a hero to these people. Remember how Scott Brown attained wattage in 2009 by beating Democrat Martha Coakley in Massachusetts? Brown was a major star then. Brat is going to make Brown look like a nameless session guitar player.
I’m sure there’s ramification five, six, seven, and eight that I’m not even thinking of right now. We’ll see. But this is an earthquake. One of the most shocking electoral nights in American history. Did I really say that? I did. It’s true. And it’s bad.
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If Michael Tomasky and the idiots at The Daily Beast (aka Newsweek) think its "awful" then it must be a good thing.
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The spin now is that Brat won because of Democrat crossover votes, because they want to run against the "racist Tea Party guy" in November.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/ben-cooter-jones_n_5463196.html
Cooter Has A Plan To Unseat Eric Cantor. It's So Crazy It Just Might Work.
Posted: 06/06/2014
Former congressman Ben Jones (D-Ga.), better known as "Cooter" from Dukes of Hazzard, has a plan to knock Eric Cantor out of the House. He's urging his fellow Democrats to cross over and vote for a tea party-backed candidate in Virginia's primary election.
Cooter, who ran against Cantor in 2002, has penned an open letter calling upon Democrats in his former Virginia district to vote in the open primary next Tuesday for tea party opponent Dave Brat in order to defeat U.S. House Majority Leader Cantor.
Crossing party lines to vote in an open primary has a long tradition in the solidly one-party South, Cooter argues in his letter. "By voting for David Brat in the Seventh District Republican primary, we Democrats, independents, and Libertarians can make a big difference in American politics," he argues. "It is your right to cast that vote. It is an 'open' primary and it doesn’t preclude anyone from voting anyway they wish in November. It may be the only way to empower those who want to make a statement about the dysfunctional Congress and 'politics as usual.'"
Below is the open letter by Jones provided to The Huffington Post:
To The Editor:
There was a time not so long ago when the South was called “The Solid South” by the national Democratic Party and the national press. The Republican Party in the South was, where it existed at all, historically on “the disabled list.” The two-party system in the South was “The Democrats who were in, and the Democrats who were out.”
So the action was in the Democratic primary, where the eventual winner was inevitably coronated. So that was where Democrats voted, where Republicans voted, and where independents, libertarians and everybody else voted. The general election in November was an afterthought. It was, after all, a foregone conclusion that the Democrats would win. For many years in Virginia, that was most likely someone connected with the Byrd Machine.
With the shift to Southern Republicanism that began in the South in the 1970’s, the game has changed. But not all that much. Congressional re-districting (in which the inmates decide who is going to run the asylum) has resulted in Virginia having Congressional races for what are clearly “safe seats,” that is, seats drawn by the incumbents, of the incumbents, and for the incumbents. So the general election decision is made in the primaries. Unless there is an unexpected lightning strike, that is simply going to happen. It is the next thing to being disenfranchised.
But by voting for David Brat in the Seventh District Republican primary, we Democrats, independents, and Libertarians can make a big difference in American politics. It is your right to cast that vote. It is an “open” primary and it doesn’t preclude anyone from voting anyway they wish in November. It may be the only way to empower those who want to make a statement about the dysfunctional Congress and “politics as usual.”
From what I know of Dave Brat, he is a good, honest, and honorable man. And from what I know of Eric Cantor, I can say only that he ran a truly dishonorable campaign against me back in 2002. He ducked debates, slandered me in slick mailings, questioned my patriotism and even mocked my Southern heritage. He simply cannot be taken at his word. You can call that “sour grapes” if you want to, but I am just telling it the way it was, and surely is. I can tell you that you will likely hear the same thing from his other former opponents, both Republican and Democrat.
Under Cantor’s Majority Leadership, the Congress has sunk to its lowest public standing in history. Our nation has lost faith in our most important institutions. This is not a laughing matter. It is a national crisis. Eric Cantor should not be rewarded with another term.
Every 7th District voter, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian and Independent can take an historic action on Tuesday, June 10th. A vote for David Brat will be heard not just throughout Washington, D.C. but around the world.
Ben Jones
Washington, Virginia
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Any possibility of merging these three threads? ^-^
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140375.0.html
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140376.0.html
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If Michael Tomasky and the idiots at The Daily Beast (aka Newsweek) think its "awful" then it must be a good thing.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/10/who-is-david-brat-meet-the-economics-professor-who-defeated-eric-cantor/
College professor David Brat knocked off House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) Tuesday in the biggest congressional upset in years.
Mr. Brat ran an underfunded campaign based in part on Mr. Cantor’s supposed support for comprehensive immigration reform, when Mr. Cantor has for months been seen by immigration reform advocates as the key roadblock to House legislation.
Mr. Brat was so unknown that his Wikipedia entry was only two sentences before Tuesday night.
Mr. Brat, an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College in Ashland, Va., had support from radio host Laura Ingraham, who hosted a rally with him in a Richmond suburb last week that centered upon Mr. Brat’s opposition to immigration reform.
Mr. Brat appeared more interested in campaigning to make a point than in winning. The Washington Post reported last month that he no-showed meetings with key conservative activists in the capital. His excuse: He had final exams to grade.
There are clues to Mr. Brat’s ideology in his academic CV. His current book project is titled “Ethics as Leading Economic Indicator? What went Wrong? Notes on the Judeo-Christian Tradition and Human Reason.”
His other published works include the titles “God and Advanced Mammon – Can Theological Types Handle Usury and Capitalism?” and “An Analysis of the Moral Foundations in Ayn Rand.”
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And here come the establishment hit pieces from someone who takes pride in kissing liberal GOP butt.
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Short term, this is a good thing.
Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016. The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.
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Short term, this is a good thing.
Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016. The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.
And if you think any would vote for the GOP if they passed amnesty, you're smoking way too much of something. They want more government, more freebees, and more socialism which is what the Democrats promise. Passing amnesty will do nothing except give the Democrats 30-50 million new voters.
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Short term, this is a good thing.
Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016. The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.
You've drank the Kool Aide Sink and swallowed ever last drop!
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Wait a minute... is this for real?
Cantor -- one of the highest-ranking Republicans of all?
The presumed next Speaker of the House?
Tossed out on his ear?
What's going on here?
Oh, wait a minute.... now I understand....
Has something to do with the Tea Party bein' dead.... right?
Right ???
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http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/06/10/what-cantors-defeat-means/
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What Cantor’s Defeat Means
John Podhoretz | @jpodhoretz
06.10.2014 - 10:29 PM
The staggering Republican primary defeat tonight of Eric Cantor, the second highest-ranking Republican in the House of Representatives and the third most-powerful Republican in Washington, is a reminder of just how volatile American politics has become. And how responsive.
Eric Cantor wasn’t supposed to lose. His own pollster had him up by, get this, 35 points last week. He’d raised nearly $5 million, and in the past two weeks spent $1 million against his rival’s $79,000. Not enough.
There’s a lot of triumphalist talk tonight about sending a message to Washington and the establishment vs. the outsiders and all that. Most of it is nonsense. Eric Cantor was “Establishment” by definition because he was in the House Republican leadership. But he was a constant source of agita to House Speaker John Boehner because he insisted on representing the party’s more rightward elements during negotiations with President Obama. He is the Republican Obama detests the most because he was so stalwart against the president.
So is this a case of the Republican Right eating one of its own to prove a point? Perhaps. Or it could just be he was hit by a perfect storm of anti-Washington sentiment and his own advocacy for an immigration bill that made him a whipping boy for ratings-hungry radio chatters. He lost touch with the voters in his own district and was done in.
The classic recent chattering-class talking point is that democracy no longer functions because it’s been stolen by rich people. But consider this. From 1954 through 1994, the House of Representatives was under the control of the Democratic Party uninterruptedly. Then Republicans held it, by increasingly thin margins, for 12 years until the Democrats took it back in 2006. Republicans seized control yet again in a 2010 landslide. The Senate has see-sawed back and forth—controlled by Republicans for the first few months of 2001, then by Democrats until 2002, then by Republicans until 2006, then again by Democrats. Both in 2010 and 2012 Republicans had a significant shot of taking back control but were stymied by several bad in-state candidacies.
Interesting things can happen in politics. Very interesting things. Right now the only sure thing, supposedly, is that Hillary Clinton will sail through the Democratic primaries unopposed. The would-be candidate we all saw last night embarrassing herself in an interview with Diane Sawyer should not be considered an inevitability. Eric Cantor’s reelection was an inevitability too.
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Any possibility of merging these three threads? ^-^
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140375.0.html
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140376.0.html
well we could but they can hold their own without it, and we get more twitter exposure with more threads :dx1:
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The death of the Tea Party has been greatly exaggerated. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his primary Tuesday night to David Brat, a man who was significantly outspent. Cantor spent $5 million to Brat's $122,000.
The media will play up Cantor's loss by claiming it was about immigration. They will be wrong, but it will be useful for the rest of us. Immigration reform is now DOA in the House of Representatives thanks to David Brat.
But Cantor really did not lose because of immigration alone. Immigration was the surface reason that galvanized the opposition to Cantor, but the opposition could not have been galvanized with this issue had Cantor been a better congressman these past few years.
Cantor and his staff both lost the trust of conservatives and constituents. They broke promises, made bad deals, and left many feeling very, very betrayed.
He and his staff have repeatedly antagonized conservatives. One conservative recently told me that Cantor's staff were the "biggest bunch of a**holes on the Hill."
An establishment consultant who backed Cantor actually agreed with this assessment. That attitude moved with Cantor staffers to K Street, the NRSC, and elsewhere generating ill will toward them and Cantor. Many of them were perceived to still be assisting Cantor in other capacities.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/06/10/why-cantor-lost/
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Graham wins too...
There is still hope to defeat Lindsey Graham— slim hope, but hope nonetheless. (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140378.0.html)
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What a feel good story of the year!!!! gonna enjoy it while i can, we get so few these days!
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Wait a minute... is this for real?
Cantor -- one of the highest-ranking Republicans of all?
The presumed next Speaker of the House?
Tossed out on his ear?
What's going on here?
Oh, wait a minute.... now I understand....
Has something to do with the Tea Party bein' dead.... right?
Right ???
Yep! I think you got it! ;>)
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And here come the establishment hit pieces from someone who takes pride in kissing liberal GOP butt.
888buttkisser MmmmGOPe
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Cantor was not an enemy of the Tea Party. He was in fact the Tea Party’s guy in the leadership for much of the Barack Obama era. He carried the tea into the speaker’s office.
I'm not sure we're thinking of the same Eric Cantor.
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You've drank the Kool Aide Sink and swallowed ever last drop!
It's no use. Some Republicans have convinced themselves that they need to make Hispanics love them by appealing to the worst representative elements among them. And among us.
Sure, by all means: let's invite more uneducated, unmarried, unmotivated, and unskilled people into America so that they can continue to be uneducated by our schools, unmotivated by our perverted social institutions, have a zillion more bastards out of wedlock and all vote for Democrats in perpetuity, or at least until the last ounce of marrow has been sucked from America's crumbling bones.
Or... we could secure our borders, deport the criminals, stop punishing achievement and enterprise, and invite good people in from anywhere who actually want to be independent and free. The problem is: too many Americans no longer want to be independent and free. Why should our immigrants?
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You've drank the Kool Aide Sink and swallowed ever last drop!
The Hispanics are already opposed to the GOP. We can't win presidential elections with less than 30% of Hispanic support.
We won't get anywhere close to that in 2016. So all those Mormon-hating archconservatives better get off their double-wide asses and vote for the Republican nominee.
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It's no use. Some Republicans have convinced themselves that they need to make Hispanics love them by appealing to the worst representative elements among them. And among us.
Sure, by all means: let's invite more uneducated, unmarried, unmotivated, and unskilled people into America so that they can continue to be uneducated by our schools, unmotivated by our perverted social institutions, have a zillion more bastards out of wedlock and all vote for Democrats in perpetuity, or at least until the last ounce of marrow has been sucked from America's crumbling bones.
Or... we could secure our borders, deport the criminals, stop punishing achievement and enterprise, and invite good people in from anywhere who actually want to be independent and free. The problem is: too many Americans no longer want to be independent and free. Why should our immigrants?
I'm opposed to amnesty. But if we don't win 30% of the Hispanic vote, we lose in presidential elections. I guess we should be happy to control Congress, or at least one House of Congress.
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Brat was out spent 22 to 1.
He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.
He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.
A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.
How do I know?
I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.
Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.
Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.
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btw: Cantor was for amnesty (For the 'children's sake) before he was against it!
(Just before the primary)
He also went to the seacoast convention (A Soros paid for convention) that was all about destroying those annoying tea partier's!
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Brat was out spent 22 to 1.
He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.
He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.
A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.
How do I know?
I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.
Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.
Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.
Thanks....good post, and I appreciate some feedback from someone who actually lives in the District and has paid attention. Well done!
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Short term, this is a good thing.
Long term, the Republicans will not touch immigration reform, which means that Hillary wins in a walk in 2016. The Hispanics will be done with the GOP after this year.
If we can't get anything done with the GOP in the minority, what will the TEA Party get done as the minority faction of the minority party?
Oh, that's right... we get to feel good about the ideological victory as we watch the majority Party redefine morality and everything else and America's economic prowess fades far off into a distant future.
Whites will be the minority by 2043. Which Party will be romancing the minority by then?
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I'm opposed to amnesty. But if we don't win 30% of the Hispanic vote, we lose in presidential elections. I guess we should be happy to control Congress, or at least one House of Congress.
Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!
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Brat was out spent 22 to 1.
He (Brat) made it his mission to meet the people, shake hands and talk about more than just immigration.
He is a free market, states rights, small government guy.
A Christian as well as a professor of economics and 'ethics'.
How do I know?
I am in his district and have followed his campaign from day one.
Cantor .. like the rest of the 'entrenched' rinos took for granted that the position was eternally theirs.
Lots of money, smear ads and downright lying to your constituents failed Cantor.
Congratulations mrclose! That's awesome!
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This is not some massive turnaround for the Tea Party. The TP has LOST everywhere this primary season until tonight (not counting McDaniel's razor thin win). And Cantor was more TP than anything else.
So, the TP did what it does best and that is cut the throat of one of its own. To prove that it can do it.
Meanwhile, Lindsay Graham cruises to victory. The guy who WROTE the immigration bill in the Senate. Some Tea Party clout.
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Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!
You're kidding yourself. Hispanics favor Democrats 75%. The few that oppose immigration reform don't matter.
The Tea Party acts like it won something tonight when not a single Tea Party PAC even bothered with this race.
I'm not sure what they think they've won.
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"Passing amnesty will do nothing except give the Democrats 30-50 million new voters."
SPOT ON !!!
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More good news from Virginia
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/amid-firestorm-of-criticism-virginia-democrats-resignation-becomes-official/2014/06/09/b04d6760-efd3-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html
Eat shiiite and die McAuliffe.
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Hispanics make up about 10% of the electorate and if you believe the fairy tale that ALL Hispanics are in favor immigration reform you really have lost all touch with reality!
WASHINGTON (AP) -- For the first time, America's racial and ethnic minorities now make up about half of the under-5 age group, the government said Thursday. It's a historic shift that shows how young people are at the forefront of sweeping changes by race and class.
The new census estimates, a snapshot of the U.S. population as of July 2012, comes a year after the Census Bureau reported that whites had fallen to a minority among babies. Fueled by immigration and high rates of birth, particularly among Hispanics, racial and ethnic minorities are now growing more rapidly in numbers than whites.
Based on current rates of growth, whites in the under-5 group are expected to tip to a minority this year or next, Thomas Mesenbourg, the Census Bureau's acting director, said.
The government also projects that in five years, minorities will make up more than half of children under 18. Not long after, the total U.S. white population will begin an inexorable decline in absolute numbers, due to aging baby boomers.
THAT is the real political Earthquake.
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While some are doing handsprings over imaginary things, I think I'll wait to see what this means. I'll wait until November.
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Any population sector that is unfailingly tied to the drug of freebies and big oppressive government is not going to vote GOP, no matter what.
You can take that to the bank.
We can never lose em cause we never had em. And we ain't gonna get em.
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While some are doing handsprings over imaginary things, I think I'll wait to see what this means. I'll wait until November.
Well, one thing you don't have to wait until November for. Amnesty is dead..now!
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I haven't seen any comments that Virginia's GOP primary was OPEN, and there was no democrat primary.
Is there just a slight chance democrats voted for Brat, to get him the nomination, so they can defeat him?
In 2012 Cantor won 58 to 41 percent; his worst margin in 7 consecutive wins over his democrat opponents.
Is the democrat opponent known, or yet to be named?
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- The Daily Caller - http://dailycaller.com -
Eric Cantor Defeated By Conservative Challenger David Brat
Posted By Alex Pappas On 8:10 PM 06/10/2014 In | No Comments
Call it the political upset of the year.
House majority leader Eric Cantor has been defeated by a little-known conservative challenger in his district’s Republican primary.
David Brat, an economics professor at Randolph-Macon College, won more votes than Cantor on Tuesday in Virginia’s 7th congressional district GOP primary. With almost all votes in, Brat led 56 percent to Cantor’s 44 percent.
“I know there’s a lot of long faces here tonight. And it’s disappointing, sure,” Cantor said to supporters at his election night gathering. “But I believe in this country. I believe there’s opportunity around the next corner for all of us.”
The results have national implications: Cantor was seen as next in line to become speaker of the House. With Cantor not returning to Congress, it will spark a competitive battle among House Republicans to replace him in the GOP leadership.
“Eric Cantor and I have been through a lot together,” House Speaker John Boehner said in a statement late Tuesday. “He’s a good friend and a great leader, and someone I’ve come to rely upon on a daily basis as we make the tough choices that come with governing. My thoughts are with him and Diana and their kids tonight.”
During his under-funded campaign, Brat made immigration an issue, accusing Cantor of being for “amnesty.”
Radio host Laura Ingraham was among those who endorsed Brat’s campaign because of the immigration debate. Still, Brat’s campaign got little attention ahead of Tuesday’s election from most other media outlets.
A Daily Caller poll released Friday indicated Cantor was in trouble: it indicated that Cantor had support from 40 percent of 583 active primary voters to Brat’s 28 percent.
Cantor had a large money advantage heading into the election: Brat raised just $207,000 in comparison to Cantor’s $5.44 million.
Earlier this year, Brat wrote a Daily Caller op-ed titled “Why I want to replace Eric Cantor.”
“Congressman Cantor’s profile has been erratic even by Washington standards — flitting from eager establishmentarian coat-holder to self-glorified ‘Young Gun’ and back again,” Brat wrote. “His loyalties, both upward and downward, have shifted in his eager embrace of the Ruling Class. Washington’s only genuine article of faith: maintaining control regardless of how that control affects the life of the folks back home.”
According to his biography, Brat earned a masters in divinity from Princeton and a Ph.D. in economics from American University. He moved to Henrico, Va. in 1996 to teach economics and ethics at Randolph-Macon College.
Ed Gillespie, Virginia’s Republican Senate nominee, congratulated Brat after the race was called. ”Congrats to @DaveBratVA7th on tonight’s win,” Gillespie wrote on Twitter. “Looking forward to a winning ticket in November!”
Republican Party of Virginia chairman Pat Mullins thanked Cantor for his service. “During his legislative career he has been a tireless advocate for the Commonwealth and his constituents, and I hope he remains a strong and active member of party,” Mullins said.
Cantor has been in Congress since 2001. No sitting House majority leader has lost since 1899.
Brat will face Democrat Jack Trammell, another professor at Randolph Macon College, in November.
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The GOP-e will do everything in their power to defeat Brat in the general election. Count on it.
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"In 2012 Cantor won 58 to 41 percent; his worst margin in 7 consecutive wins over his democrat opponents."
In 2012 they hadn't seen what he turned into for 2013/14.
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Flashback: Republican Cantor to Headline Anti-Tea Party Conference Sponsored by George Soros & Unions
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, June 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
This was previously posted on April 9, 2014–
Eric Cantor ought to have some free time in a few months to think about this.
Eric Cantor Gives Speech On Value Of School Choice
Majority Leader Eric Cantor
So what’s this all about?
Conservative writer and activist Brent Bozell, the founder and president of the Media Research Center, sent this letter to Majority Leader Eric Cantor on his decision to headline an anti-Tea Party event this weekend in Florida.
Dear Majority Leader Cantor:
Conservative leaders were stunned to learn that you will be headlining a conference in Florida this weekend that is, purely and simply, a direct attack on Tea Party conservatives. Worse still, this event is sponsored in part by ultra-liberal financier/activist George Soros and organized labor – both of which have openly, repeatedly – and often viciously – waged war on conservatives and Republicans for years.
What has possessed you to headline this event? Do you think so little of conservatives that you would directly insult them by attending?
Since Mitt Romney’s defeat in the 2012 presidential election a substantial rift has opened between the GOP’s congressional leadership and rank-and-file Republicans, grassroots conservatives and Tea Party supporters – the very activists who provided the energy, enthusiasm and mobilization that fueled the historic Republican victory in 2010 and gave you and your colleagues the House majority you hold today. You would not be Majority Leader today but for Tea Party conservatives. And you’re headlining an event sponsored by a leftist organization committed to its destruction.
As we head in to midterm elections later this year, it would seem incumbent upon Republican leaders to do everything they can to actually heal this rift. Instead you are widening it further.
It is our understanding that Speaker John Boehner had planned to attend but is no longer doing so. We expect no less from you. Attending this event shows you are siding with the Democrat donors, unions, and other Soros-backed groups who have contributed over $1 million to attack conservatives.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/republican-cantor-to-headline-anti-tea-party-conference-sponsored-by-george-soros-unions/
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http://www.nationalreview.com/node/380067/print (http://www.nationalreview.com/node/380067/print)
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
June 10, 2014 10:43 PM
Eric Cantor's Defeat: Winners and Losers
By Joel Gehrke
In no particular order.
Winners:
1) Dave Brat, the college professor and political novice who pulled off the first primary upset of a House majority leader since 1899.
2) Tea-party activists nationwide, whose efforts to move Republican-party leaders to the right received a morale boost and a fundraising hook.
3) Conservative talk-radio host Laura Ingraham, who supported Brat when most political types assumed Cantor would roll to another victory.
5) Representative Jeb Hensarling (R., Texas), whose chances of succeeding House speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) just got a whole lot better.
6) Representative Peter Roskam (R., Kan.), who has a solid chance of replacing Representative Kevin McCarthy (R., Calif.) as whip if McCarthy takes Cantor’s job.
Losers:
1) House majority leader Eric Cantor (R., Va.) who was on the wrong end of a historic defeat.
2) Any pundit who said the Tea Party is dead.
3) Comprehensive-immigration-reform proponents.
4) Representative Bob Goodlatte, the Virginia Republican tasked with managing immigration bills at the Judiciary Committee level.
5) Republican incumbents everywhere, who have just been reminded that every primary is a dangerous challenge.
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Cantor going down was a pleasant surprise for me.
Another 'immigration-reform now' candidate bites the dust!
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http://www.nationalreview.com/node/380057/print (http://www.nationalreview.com/node/380057/print)
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE
June 10, 2014 9:32 PM
Looking Back at the Tea Leaves on Cantor
By John Fund
Eric Cantor’s loss is historic. No sitting House majority leader has lost an election since the office was created in 1899. While Cantor’s loss was a stunning surprise, the warning signals were around for a while:
1. Cantor managed to muddle his message on immigration. His direct-mail pieces claimed he was foursquare against amnesty. But the newspapers covering Washington, D.C., quoted him as saying he was seeking a compromise with President Obama on immigration. Voters resolved the seeming contradiction by deciding to vote out their establishment congressman. Cantor’s loss destroys any chance of a comprehensive immigration bill passing the House this year.
2. The majority leader outspent his opponent, David Brat, by $2.5 million to $40,000. Much of that money went to negative ads against Brat that turned off voters and were so vitriolic as not to be credible.
3. Cantor was also hurt by a subterranean campaign by Democrats to convince their supporters to vote in the Republican primary against Cantor. Apparently, some of them did.
4. Many constituents of Eric Cantor felt he had ignored them for years, rarely returning home and often ignoring them on key issues ranging from expanding Medicare prescription-drug benefits to TARP bank bailouts. The frustration boiled over at a May party meeting in his district, where Cantor was booed and his ally was ousted from his post as local party chair by a tea-party insurgent. “He did one thing in Washington and then tried to confuse us as to what he did when he came back to his district,” one Republican primary voter told me.
And, looking forward:
5. In theory, Cantor could run as a write-in candidate in the November election, but that is highly unlikely. A divided GOP vote could elect a Democrat in a district where President Obama won 43 percent of the vote in 2012.
6. The House Republican Caucus has experienced an earthquake. Regardless of John Boehner’s decision on whether to remaining speaker, there will now be a new majority leader. Early contenders for the post are House Financial Services Committee chairman Jeb Hensarling and House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan. Both men are more conservative at their core than Cantor, who often made colleagues think he was a conservative of convenience rather than conviction.
Primaries are often criticized for low voter turnout. But they are also expressions of the grassroots sentiments of political parties. The lesson tonight is that establishment candidates ignore their most ardent voters at their peril. As political analyst Stuart Rothenberg put it tonight: “The GOP establishment’s problem isn’t with the Tea Party. It’s with Republican voters.”
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/10/White-House-Cantor-Lost-Because-He-Wasn-t-More-Pro-Amnesty (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/10/White-House-Cantor-Lost-Because-He-Wasn-t-More-Pro-Amnesty)
by Tony Lee 11 Jun 2014, 2:49 AM PDT
As soon as House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) stunningly lost his primary to Dave Brat on Tuesday, the White House proclaimed that Cantor lost his race because he wasn't pro-amnesty enough.
White House Senior Adviser Dan Pfeiffer said Cantor's "problem wasn't his position on immigration reform," bur rather "his lack of a position."
Cantor's problem wasn't his position on immigration reform, it was his lack of a position. Graham wrote and passed a bill and is winning big
— Dan Pfeiffer (@pfeiffer44) June 11, 2014
Though Cantor concealed his support for amnesty and more guest-worker visas for illegal immigrants and sent out deceptive anti-amnesty mailers to voters in his district, Brat made Cantor's past support for amnesty the central issue of the campaign in the final month. Brat started to surge in the polls after he started hammering Cantor on the issue.
"The central policy issue in this race has become Cantor’s absolute determination to pass an amnesty bill. Cantor is the No. 1 cheerleader in Congress for amnesty," Brat wrote in an op-ed for the Richmond Times-Dispatch. "This is not the Republican way to fix our economy and labor markets."
And when illegal immigrant children started to flood across the border in the last few weeks, Brat pointed out that they were coming to America in part because Cantor said one of the "great founding principles" of the nation was giving amnesty to the children of illegal immigrants to not penalize them for the mistakes of their parents. Brat said Cantor's comments represented "one of the most radical pro-amnesty statements ever delivered by a sitting representative."
The White House wanted to partner with Cantor to pass various amnesty bills. In fact, the Friday before the primary, Cantor, in the midst of the current illegal immigration crisis, said that he would be willing to work with Obama to give amnesty to the children of illegal immigrants in an interview on a local television station.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Jews-Wrestle-with-Cantor-Defeat (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Jews-Wrestle-with-Cantor-Defeat)
by Joel B. Pollak 11 Jun 2014, 5:09 AM PDT
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who lost his Republican congressional primary to Tea Party-backed Dave Brat in a shocking landslide Tuesday, is the highest-ranking Jew in the history of the U.S. Congress. As news of Cantor's defeat spread, Jews on both sides of the aisle wrestled with what his defeat meant for American Jews in politics--and for Republican Jews in particular, who had long seen Cantor as a champion for their cause.
"We are disappointed that our friend Eric Cantor lost his primary race tonight, but we are proud of his many, many accomplishments in Congress," said Republican Jewish Coalition executive director Matt Brooks in a somewhat grim press statement Tuesday evening. "Eric has been an important pro-Israel voice in the House and a leader on security issues...We are proud to have worked with Eric Cantor for the last 14 years."
Indeed, Cantor and his wife were prominent guests of honor at RJC events--not just high-dollar leadership meet ins, but also at local chapters across the country. In 2010, hundreds of Jewish Republicans packed a standing-room-only ballroom in suburban Chicago to hear Cantor speak in the run-up to the midterm elections that year, which swept Cantor and his party into power in the House of Representatives on a wave of Tea Party support.
Though Cantor has never made his religious identity as central to his persona as did former Democrat Sen. Joseph Lieberman--another prominent Jewish politician defeated by his own party in a midterm primary--he was proud to identify as a Jew. He promoted Jewish political candidates, such as Ohio treasurer Josh Mandel, and referred to his Judaism in explaining some of his positions, including his support for immigration reform.
It was that push for immigration reform, despite of a deeply flawed "comprehensive" bill in the Senate and a growing crisis at the border, that cost Cantor his seat to Brat's "anti-amnesty" campaign.
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee gloated over Cantor's defeat "by the Tea Party base that he's kowtowed to at every turn," and some Democrats claimed that the Tea Party had rejected Cantor because of his Judaism.
It is a claim undermined by the fact that Cantor helped inspire the Tea Party's birth in 2009 by whipping the Republican minority against the $862 billion stimulus, and by the fact that some Tea Party conservatives had supported him as an alternative to Speaker of the House John Boehner in January 2013. At least one of Cantor's most prominent critics, talk radio host Mark Levin, is Jewish--and enthusiastically backed Brat's campaign.
On social media, some Tea Party-aligned Jews were exultant at Cantor's defeat: "Just so everyone knows .... I am Jewish .... and I am more than tickled pink that Cantor Lost," tweeted Floridian Errol Phillips, whose profile describes him as a "Tea Party Conservative." Others disagreed: "they [Tea Party] are not a party welcome to Jews," tweeted Jacob Kornbluh, a conservative political activist and religious Jew from Brooklyn, New York.
Cantor's departure from Congress next year also means that the pro-Israel community will lose one of its best allies on Capitol Hill. However, the issue did not come up in the primary campaign. Brat's website does not mention Israel, yet calls for a strong foreign policy: "We must secure our borders, support the Armed Forces, both at home and abroad, and maintain a strong national defense in order to secure our country’s future."
Arguably, Lieberman's loss in 2006 had far more to do with nascent anti-Israel tendencies among Democrats than Cantor's loss in 2014 has to do with any such feeling among Republicans. Anti-war Democrats routinely cast Lieberman as a traitor to the party--and the country--because of his support for the Iraq War and George W. Bush's war on terror, which some on the left characterized as a surreptitious campaign on Israel's behalf. Cantor's defeat was more unexpected than Lieberman's, and less connected to his personal identity.
On Tuesday evening, some Cantor supporters discussed a Lieberman-style comeback, perhaps a write-in effort like that which Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski used in 2010 after her primary loss. Such an effort is unlikely. Yet--thanks in part to Cantor's efforts--there are several Jewish Republican candidates eager to pick up where he left off.
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It is becoming more and more apparent that everyone in our white house is using mind altering drugs.
And that includes the person occupying the oval office. Unstable at any speed.
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Republicans were counting on winning in November by simply not being Democrats. It's not going to work.
The caricature of Republicans as bumbling, and beholden to special interests is facilitated by politicians such as Cantor. They say one thing, do another, and don't produce anything resembling vision, or a coherent plan.
Don't weep for Cantor, the political elite take care of their own.
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Cantor was for allowing illegals to enlist in our military. At this time the Pentagon is discharging our troops and this idiot wanted illegals to be permitted to join???? In the name of WHAT?????
That was just another reason for Cantor to be kicked out of the congress.
Next we need to get rid of Ryan who thinks the poor illegals need to be able to come out of the shadows. Oh really????
And now we have Rand Paul joining Bloomberg in an effort to facilitate immigration 'reform'.
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White House Senior Adviser Dan Pfeiffer said . . .
Dan Pfeiffer is the biggest liar and the most hyper-partisan person in the administration. That's saying a lot, yes, when the other contenders are the Obamas, Hillary, John F'n Kerry, Ben Rhodes, Stephanie Cutter, Susan Rice, etc. But I believe it's true.
Between his partisanship and disrespect for the truth I wouldn't expect Pfeiffer to say anything other than what he spewed. He will say whatever is necessary to further the cause.
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Others disagreed: "they [Tea Party] are not a party welcome to Jews," tweeted Jacob Kornbluh, a conservative political activist and religious Jew from Brooklyn, New York.
Funny how some people try to make it strictly an anti-Jew thing.
Here's a clue for Mr. Kornbluh... it's not your past or heritage, it's your behavior in the here and now.
Start working to strengthen this country and increase individual liberty and we won't care if you're a Klingon...
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As soon as House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) stunningly lost his primary to Dave Brat on Tuesday, the White House proclaimed that Cantor lost his race because he wasn't pro-amnesty enough.
Good to see the WH hold their line.
Hopefully, all the Rat candidates will believe this and run on it...
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It is becoming more and more apparent that everyone in our white house is using mind altering drugs.
And that includes the person occupying the oval office. Unstable at any speed.
I can't imagine what it would do to you to be in their position. The WH can issue any statement, and regardless of how stupid, or unbelievable the statement is, the msm will massage it, spin it, and sell it to the people as fact.
The people generally buy what the msm is selling.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pelosi-eric-cantor-david-brat (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pelosi-eric-cantor-david-brat)
Daniel Strauss – June 10, 2014, 10:56 PM EDT
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) argued that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's (R-VA) loss to a little-known primary challenger showed that it's a "whole new ballgame" in the 2014 midterm elections.
Here's Pelosi's statement below:
The American people should take notice. Tonight, the Tea Party defeated Republican Leader Eric Cantor who is one of the most extreme Members of Congress.
Eric Cantor has long been the face of House Republicans’ extreme policies, debilitating dysfunction and manufactured crises. Tonight, is a major victory for the Tea Party as they yet again pull the Republican Party further to the radical right.
As far as the midterms elections are concerned, it’s a whole new ballgame.
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The Hispanics are already opposed to the GOP. We can't win presidential elections with less than 30% of Hispanic support.
We won't get anywhere close to that in 2016. So all those Mormon-hating archconservatives better get off their double-wide asses and vote for the Republican nominee.
Wait... what? So, when did you join the Democrat party?
Or, are you just a little emotional over Cantor's loss?
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nothing like a little xenophobia to "spice" up a conversation
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nothing like a little xenophobia to "spice" up a conversation
Anti amnesty is xenophobia?
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/208956-rep-becerra-still-confident-immigration-reform-doable (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/208956-rep-becerra-still-confident-immigration-reform-doable)
June 11, 2014, 08:21 am
Becerra: Cantor loss won't kill immigration
By Rebecca Shabad
Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) on Wednesday said he’s still confident Congress will pass immigration reform despite House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s (R-Va.) primary loss.
“I think people made a big mistake that they confuse the result in Eric’s race with getting immigration reform done. The question for immigration reform is not if it’s going to get done, it’s when we’re going to get it done. It’s going to get done,” Becerra said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
After Cantor’s shocking upset Tuesday night, many analysts predicted prospects for reform are dead in the near future. Cantor had authored a bill similar to the DREAM Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for children who came to the United States illegally.
“I believe what we’re hearing here is a message: get your work done,” Becerra said of Cantor’s loss. “The longer they let this simmer, the worse it will get in their party.”
Majorities of Republicans throughout the country support immigration reform, Becerra said, as do most Republicans in the House.
“For Republicans in the House, my sense is they’re now squeezed between doing things the Tea Party way and doing things the American way. They’re going to find it’s a lot harder to do things the Tea Party way.”
At the same time, Becerra realizes establishment Republicans are in a bind.
“You can’t outright the far right and maybe Eric’s loss is a message of that.”
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sinkspur wrote above:
[[ The Hispanics are already opposed to the GOP. We can't win presidential elections with less than 30% of Hispanic support. ]]
This is absolute nonsense.
The "Hispanic vote" is pretty much where Hispanics are concentrated (duh!). And they are concentrated largely in the blue states, which Republicans can't win anyway.
About the only exception that comes to mind is Texas. But then again, the political future of Texas will be determined by the relentless progress of demographics (which is as dismal a science as economics).
The Hispanic vote in the purple states is not yet significant, and won't be for a long time. This will be true particularly if conservatives continue to oppose immigration and amnesty. Yes, we DO want to "suppress this [erstwhile] vote". The most foolish move Republicans could make would be to transform non-voting Hispanic illegals into voting citizens!
For an example of how the Euro-Americans can successfully resist and counter large minorities, look to the southern states. In these states, whites vote almost exclusively Republican. They -know- that if they do not, their interests will be replaced by the the interests of blacks, who vote nearly 100% democratic. Down south, white Euros have learned about the concept of "identity politics", and how to use that reality to maintain power and to protect their interests.
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Anti amnesty is xenophobia?
the way that most of the amnesty-haters voice it? yes.
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Gossip on the Hill @GossipOnTheHill 38s
Gossip on the Hill right now: Cantor will step down in the coming weeks, McCarthy and McMorris Rodgers will vie for Majority Leader.
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the way that most of the amnesty-haters voice it? yes.
I get your point, and I even think I know which post(s) have your knickers in a twist. But your comment comes off as vaguely arrogant, accusing without specifying.
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I get your point, and I even think I know which post(s) have your knickers in a twist. But your comment comes off as vaguely arrogant, accusing without specifying.
Since I cannot get any sort of rational response from the amnesty-haters on any of the details of what they think should be done instead of amnesty, I see no point other than simply pointing out the obvious: the amnesty-haters have a surfeit of xenophobia and a dearth of even semi-intelligent solutions.
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[[ Anti amnesty is xenophobia?
the way that most of the amnesty-haters voice it? yes. ]]
Dictionary:
"xenophobia - noun: intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries."
At this time in the nation's history, I proffer that "xenophobia" is not only a rational response to what's happening at the Southern Front (oops, "border"), but absolutely necessary if the nation is to survive as a cultural construct of those who built it before us.
There is nothing inherently wrong with harboring an "intense dislike" of "people from other countries" -- particulary if such people are coming from a country or countries in which the economic, social and moral culture is completely different from our own.
One does not admit into one's own home, people who are strangers and who harbor no good will towards the homeowner, but who would instead rob him blind and physically displace him from his own house.
Nor should we permit into our -country- (our "collective home") those who would do the same.
Even if they're "children".
I argue that it's -worse- to let these kids in -- they cannot work, they're totally uneducated, they can be only a crushing burden upon a system that is already cracking apart at the foundations.
I also argue that this "New Children's Crusade" is being deliberately orchestrated and funded.
We are watching as our nation comes apart at the seams.
How can we call for enforcement of the existing laws at the border, when we have an administration that has in effect declared that there simply is no border, any more ??
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[[ Anti amnesty is xenophobia?
the way that most of the amnesty-haters voice it? yes. ]]
Dictionary:
"xenophobia - noun: intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries."
At this time in the nation's history, I proffer that "xenophobia" is not only a rational response to what's happening at the Southern Front (oops, "border"), but absolutely necessary if the nation is to survive as a cultural construct of those who built it before us.
There is nothing inherently wrong with harboring an "intense dislike" of "people from other countries" -- particulary if such people are coming from a country or countries in which the economic, social and moral culture is completely different from our own.
One does not admit into one's own home, people who are strangers and who harbor no good will towards the homeowner, but who would instead rob him blind and physically displace him from his own house.
Nor should we permit into our -country- (our "collective home") those who would do the same.
Even if they're "children".
I argue that it's -worse- to let these kids in -- they cannot work, they're totally uneducated, they can be only a crushing burden upon a system that is already cracking apart at the foundations.
I also argue that this "New Children's Crusade" is being deliberately orchestrated and funded.
We are watching as our nation comes apart at the seams.
How can we call for enforcement of the existing laws at the border, when we have an administration that has in effect declared that there simply is no border, any more ??
I'll give you points for at least having the honor to admit your own irrational hatred of Mexicans (and other hispanics). That being said, irrational hatred is a rather poor basis for creating federal policy.
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[[ Anti amnesty is xenophobia?
the way that most of the amnesty-haters voice it? yes. ]]
Dictionary:
"xenophobia - noun: intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries."
At this time in the nation's history, I proffer that "xenophobia" is not only a rational response to what's happening at the Southern Front (oops, "border"), but absolutely necessary if the nation is to survive as a cultural construct of those who built it before us.
There is nothing inherently wrong with harboring an "intense dislike" of "people from other countries" -- particulary if such people are coming from a country or countries in which the economic, social and moral culture is completely different from our own.
One does not admit into one's own home, people who are strangers and who harbor no good will towards the homeowner, but who would instead rob him blind and physically displace him from his own house.
Nor should we permit into our -country- (our "collective home") those who would do the same.
Even if they're "children".
I argue that it's -worse- to let these kids in -- they cannot work, they're totally uneducated, they can be only a crushing burden upon a system that is already cracking apart at the foundations.
I also argue that this "New Children's Crusade" is being deliberately orchestrated and funded.
We are watching as our nation comes apart at the seams.
How can we call for enforcement of the existing laws at the border, when we have an administration that has in effect declared that there simply is no border, any more ??
The word "irrational" in the definition makes all the difference in the world. There is nothing irrational about wanting to preserve our culture and civilization. It is a very rational approach and perspective. While the concept of protecting the nation's borders is a fundamental reason for existence of any national government, the concept has been under attack for decades, on many fronts around the globe. We are just starting to see the results.
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The word "irrational" in the definition makes all the difference in the world. There is nothing irrational about wanting to preserve our culture and civilization. It is a very rational approach and perspective. While the concept of protecting the nation's borders is a fundamental reason for existence of any national government, the concept has been under attack for decades, on many fronts around the globe. We are just starting to see the results.
Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details. ]]
OK, I'll step up to the plate.
We need to re-establish a real "border" to begin with.
I like what the Israelis have done in this regard:
(http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/QalqilyaWall.jpg)
How's that for starters?
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Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details.
I'll take a crack at it.
First, foremost, and without delay, I would tighten penalties on employing illegals. I wouldn't over burden employers, I'd simply use SSN as the qualifier. If your prospective employee produces an SSN that checks out, the employer is safe. For small businesses, this is problematic, so the real impact would be on employers with say, over 50 employees.
I would absolutely not offer government services to illegals. If you are a guest worker, or have a visa sure, you get access. If it's a life threatening event, emergency services apply to anyone, legal or not. Beyond that, if you're an illegal, that means... NOT legal. Get legal, or get out.
Tighten security on the border. Why is it that Mexico can secure it's southern border, but we can't? Does the Mexican government have more money than us? No. They have the political will. They turn people back, or jail them. We do neither.
The people who are here, if they have been here for some arbitrary period, say 5 years, they are ours, like it or not. Put them on a path to citizenship. Amnesty. But do that AFTER the border has been secured. Those here less than 5 years, illegally, face deportation. Not in the sense of a man hunt, but as they become known, (traffic violations, applying for aid, etc), they face deportation. Why should Mexicans get preference to Indians, or Irish, or Laotians or whatever? I know people who have been fighting the immigration system, legally. It's not easy. But, for some reason, we accept that walking across the border is a good thing to do for Mexicans.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details. ]]
OK, I'll step up to the plate.
We need to re-establish a real "border" to begin with.
I like what the Israelis have done in this regard:
(http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/QalqilyaWall.jpg)
How's that for starters?
Tell 0bama we've found his "shovel ready" project and maybe he'll actually do something. Think of how many jobs would be created by building an effective fence.
Nah, never mind. I just put down the bong and realized what I was saying.
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Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details.
Neither you nor I are in a position to provide and debate specific, precise details. (Unless of course, you are a public administrator, civil engineer, physical security expert, etc. I am not.) The discussion is a discussion of principles. So if you are looking for "specific, precise details" you need to ask elsewhere.
The answer that is appropriate for this type of discussion is pretty basic. What do we do to protect any plot of land of value that is subject to attack?
We enclose it with a fence/barrier of sufficient dimensions and durability to sustain the attempts at illegal penetration. Additionally, human/electronic guardians are also established, as required.
Does the cost to develop and maintain a perimeter security barrier increase with the scale? Certainly. However, harkening back to the principle being discussed, if a nation state can not find the means to pay for the requisite security barrier, then the nation state will cease to exist. For the United States, if the answer is that we can not afford to develop and maintain this core function of national government from within our $3+ Trillion federal budget, then we deserve exactly what we are seeing happen. (Obviously the real world answer to that is that we certainly can afford it, the reason that we don't have it is because those that control the functional and spending priorities of the federal government don't want it!!)
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The people who are here, if they have been here for some arbitrary period, say 5 years, they are ours, like it or not. Put them on a path to citizenship. Amnesty.
I disagree. I would consider an exception for children who were brought here illegally including those who are being "dumped" into Arizona right now. If a person came here illegally as an adult they get no citizenship and no voting, ever. The only possible exception for this should be granted if the illegal immigrant goes back to their home country and follows the legal immigration process, and this only after a long penalty period in their home country.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details. ]]
OK, I'll step up to the plate.
We need to re-establish a real "border" to begin with.
I like what the Israelis have done in this regard:
(http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/QalqilyaWall.jpg)
How's that for starters?
Thank you, your picture better spells out what I attempted to convey in words!
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I disagree. I would consider an exception for children who were brought here illegally including those who are being "dumped" into Arizona right now. If a person came here illegally as an adult they get no citizenship and no voting, ever. The only possible exception for this should be granted if the illegal immigrant goes back to their home country and follows the legal immigration process, and this only after a long penalty period in their home country.
I hate rewarding an illegal act, but the fact is, many of these people were lured here. Elements of our government, and business community have actively recruited Mexicans to come here, illegally. This is not an easy one, and there is no resolution that won't leave everyone feeling cheated in some way.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details. ]]
OK, I'll step up to the plate.
We need to re-establish a real "border" to begin with.
I like what the Israelis have done in this regard:
(http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/QalqilyaWall.jpg)
How's that for starters?
a great, big giant waste of money. smugglers from Egypt into the Gaza Strip have continually made a mockery of the border walls put up by Egypt - which have included massive steel barriers rammed 20 meters under the surface. And the cost will be prohibitive. Building a basic wall - i.e., one without deep steel barriers or massive fortifications like in your picture - easily costs $1 million per kilometer; the US-Mexico border is 3,145 kilometers long, so it would cost at least $3 billion dollars to build a basic wall, without deep underground steel barriers, which would slow smuggling across the border for about a year or so while the smugglers dig new tunnels under that wall; thereafter, the illegal immigration will continue unabated.
next.
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I disagree. I would consider an exception for children who were brought here illegally including those who are being "dumped" into Arizona right now. If a person came here illegally as an adult they get no citizenship and no voting, ever. The only possible exception for this should be granted if the illegal immigrant goes back to their home country and follows the legal immigration process, and this only after a long penalty period in their home country.
with that I can agree
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I hate rewarding an illegal act, but the fact is, many of these people were lured here. Elements of our government, and business community have actively recruited Mexicans to come here, illegally. This is not an easy one, and there is no resolution that won't leave everyone feeling cheated in some way.
Well, a 'North American Union' would 'fix' things... :whistle:
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a great, big giant waste of money. smugglers from Egypt into the Gaza Strip have continually made a mockery of the border walls put up by Egypt - which have included massive steel barriers rammed 20 meters under the surface. And the cost will be prohibitive. Building a basic wall - i.e., one without deep steel barriers or massive fortifications like in your picture - easily costs $1 million per kilometer; the US-Mexico border is 3,145 kilometers long, so it would cost at least $3 billion dollars to build a basic wall, without deep underground steel barriers, which would slow smuggling across the border for about a year or so while the smugglers dig new tunnels under that wall; thereafter, the illegal immigration will continue unabated.
next.
Now you're being obtuse. Taking a symbol and applying it literally. It is nearly impossible to seal a border. But, if we:
Quit enticing illegals to come here.
Actually stop illegal crossings when we see them.
Make it slightly more difficult to cross.
We will lessen the problem greatly.
Why is it Mexico can secure their souther border, but we can't secure ours?
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Well, a 'North American Union' would 'fix' things... :whistle:
Yep, it worked wonders in Europe.
I'm just looking at it pragmatically.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/11/did-democratic-votes-doom-eric-cantor/?wprss=rss_the-fix&clsrd (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/11/did-democratic-votes-doom-eric-cantor/?wprss=rss_the-fix&clsrd)
Did Democratic votes doom Eric Cantor?
By Scott Clement
June 11 at 8:15 am
Rep. Eric Cantor's unexpected Republican primary loss Tuesday kicked off rapid speculation on how the House majority leader lost to a poorly-funded opponent in a Virginia district whose primary Cantor won with 79 percent support in 2012. One possibility is that district Democrats crossed over and voted for Cantor's opponent, David Brat.
Virginia's lack of party registration makes it difficult to pin down whether Democrats crossed over in large numbers, but local level turnout provides some indirect clues on whether this phenomenon was widespread. On two counts, the data cast doubt on whether Democratic cross-over voting caused Cantor's loss.
While Republican primary turnout spiked by 28 percent over 2012, according to the State Board of Elections, Cantor received nearly 8,500 fewer votes this year than he did in the 2012 Republican primary, a drop that was larger than Brat's 7,200-vote margin of victory. Regardless of how many Democrats turned out to oppose Cantor, he still would have prevailed had he maintained the same level of support as in his 2012 landslide.
If Democrats showed up in large numbers to vote against Cantor, turnout should have spiked highest from 2012 in Democratic-leaning areas, with Cantor seeing an especially large drop-off in support. In fact, turnout rose slightly more in counties that voted more heavily for Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election.
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Yep, it worked wonders in Europe.
I'm just looking at it pragmatically.
When did pragmatism ever have anything to do with politics? LOL!
Seriously though, the EU was just the first attempt at dividing the world into 10 World Regions. They'll get it worked out eventually and the others will follow.
The North American Union is a natural, with abundant Canadian natural resources, U.S. economic power and cheap Mexican labor.
The immigration 'crisis' is a move in that direction, IMO...
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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/208983-cantor-loss-sparks-gop-frenzy (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/208983-cantor-loss-sparks-gop-frenzy)
By Russell Berman - 06/11/14 11:23 AM EDT
The jockeying among Republicans to replace Eric Cantor (Va.) as House majority leader began Wednesday within hours of his stunning primary loss.
The No. 3 Republican, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), is expected to seek Cantor’s post as majority leader, the second-ranking post behind Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio).
But he faced an immediate challenge from a Texas conservative, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Tex.).
Sessions, the chairman of the House Rules Committee and a former GOP campaign chief, began making calls to colleagues after Cantor’s loss seeking support in his bid for majority leader, according to a person close to the congressman.
The wrangling follows Cantor’s shocking upset at the hands of Tea Party challenger David Brat, who defeated the heir apparent to Boehner.
When exactly Cantor’s post will be vacant remains a key question, and he and other top GOP leaders were meeting behind closed doors at the Capitol on Wednesday morning.
Cantor could serve out his term as majority leader or step down from the leadership immediately.
The race to fill McCarthy’s position as whip heated up as well, as Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) moved rapidly to challenge Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.), the chief deputy whip who has been eyeing the spot for months.
“He’s in for the whip’s race,” a source close to Roskam said on Wednesday.
Scalise is chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, and a GOP aide said on Wednesday said that as soon as Cantor’s loss became official, he began receiving calls from colleagues urging him to run for majority whip.
“Obviously, no one saw Leader Cantor losing yesterday,” the aide said. “It was a tectonic shift that caught everyone off-guard.”
Scalise had been laying the groundwork for the race in the event Boehner decided to retire at year’s end, but he is now prepared to run whenever the opening occurs.
“Regardless of Leader Cantor’s position, he’s ready to go,” the aide said.
The fourth-ranking Republican, Conference Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.), also wants to be in the mix for either whip or majority leader, but she did not immediately announce her plans on Wednesday.
One prominent Republican who will not be making a leadership bid is Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the House budget chairman and 2012 GOP vice presidential nominee.
“With respect to elected leadership, Congressman Ryan hasn’t changed his thinking,” a source close to Ryan said in an email. “When asked earlier this year about pursuing the position of Speaker of the House, Congressman Ryan was emphatic that he had no intention of doing so. His focus is on chairing the House Budget Committee and representing the 1st district of Wisconsin.”
Despite rampant speculation that he will soon retire, Boehner has said publicly and privately he is running for another term as Speaker. And his aides made clear that Cantor’s loss did not change his plans, and the development could make it more likely that he will stay because of a lack of an obvious successor.
Another potential contender, Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Tex.), issued a statement Wednesday praising Cantor while acknowledging he had been approached about mounting a leadership bid. Hensarling is chairman of the Financial Services Committee and served until 2013 as chairman of the Republican conference.
"Eric Cantor is a friend and ally on many fronts," he said. "He was, is, and will continue to be a good leader and servant for his district and our nation, and I am grateful for his service. While one chapter will ultimately close for him, I know that Eric will continue to work to advance the cause of freedom."
Hensarling has played coy in recent weeks when asked whether he might challenge or seek to succeed Boehner.
“I am humbled by the many people who have approached me about serving our Republican conference in a different capacity in the future," he said. "There are many ways to advance the causes of freedom and free enterprise, and I am prayerfully considering the best way I can serve in those efforts.”
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Boehner Treats Cantor Ouster As Though Cantor Is Dying
On Tuesday evening, in the wake of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s (R-VA) stunning primary loss to economic professor David Brat, Speaker of the House John Boehner released the following statement:
"Eric Cantor and I have been through a lot together. He’s a good friend and a great leader, and someone I’ve come to rely upon on a daily basis as we make the tough choices that come with governing. My thoughts are with him and Diana and their kids tonight."
It should be noted that Cantor did not receive a cancer diagnosis. He was defeated in a primary by a Tea Party-backed candidate who slammed him on his support for immigration reform.
Truth Revolt (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/boehner-treats-cantor-ouster-though-cantor-dying)
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a great, big giant waste of money. smugglers from Egypt into the Gaza Strip have continually made a mockery of the border walls put up by Egypt - which have included massive steel barriers rammed 20 meters under the surface. And the cost will be prohibitive. Building a basic wall - i.e., one without deep steel barriers or massive fortifications like in your picture - easily costs $1 million per kilometer; the US-Mexico border is 3,145 kilometers long, so it would cost at least $3 billion dollars to build a basic wall, without deep underground steel barriers, which would slow smuggling across the border for about a year or so while the smugglers dig new tunnels under that wall; thereafter, the illegal immigration will continue unabated.
next.
$3 billion is a pittance compared to how much we spend on Medicare, Medicaid, public education and other very expensive entitlements— which the government effectively requires local municipalities to give to people regardless of immigration status— each year alone. If an effective border system can cut the number of illegal aliens in this country down by just 1%, it would effectively pay for itself.
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Commentary from an establishment Republican (W.Va. state chair of the Romney campaign):
Have We Learned?
Bill Phillips
phillipsbillboard.com
An earthquake hit the Republican Party last night. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's (R-Va.) was defeated by a Tea Party challenger. This will fuel Tea Party types with the real impact hitting in 2015 and 2016 as battle for the Republican nomination moves into full gear.
I just hope this is realized by all Republicans not just insiders. The consequence will be significant as we enter the contest to select a 2016 Republican presidential nominee.
Every day Republicans not active in the party must get involved immediately if we are to nominate a presidential candidate who can get elected. Otherwise, let's just crown Hillary Clinton.
This cannot wait until the excitement of a campaign. Anyone who follows politics will recall the movement to nominate Barry Goldwater in 1964 started well before that year. F. Clifton White was organizing, recruiting and taking control of Republican Party machinery at the local level. This is well document in his book Suite 3505.
That year regular Republicans waited too long and the battle ensured. Throughout the spring and summer of 1964 there was blood on the floor everywhere you looked. At the last minute even former President Dwight Eisenhower got involved trying to save the Republican Party from itself. We all know how 1964 turned out!
In West Virginia control of the party has been underway for some time by Tea Party believers. Our representatives to the Republican National Committee are Tea Party in their heart. The State Chairman is a "wolf in sheep's clothing". Following the May election when new county GOP committee members were elected the same is taking place as committees reorganize.
This take over extends even to selecting a Congressman to replace Shelley Moore Captio in the 2nd District. Not only has the Tea Party prevailed there but it was done with a Maryland resident coming across our state line.
Eric Cantor is a conservative Republican but not obviously to the extent liked by the extremists.
Extremism cannot win in 2016 get involved now - don't wait until it's too late.
Gee, Mr. Phillips. We nominated - and voted for - your guy in 2012, didn't we? And we ended up crowning B. Hussein Obama for a second term
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Tea Party groups that offered Dave Brat zero support sure are thrilled he defeated Eric Cantor
T. Becket Adams
Washington Examiner
June 11, 2014
A Tea Party candidate soundly defeated House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., on Tuesday, sending shockwaves through the Republican establishment and the Democratic Party.
And Dave Brat, the 52-year-old chairman of the Randolph-Macon College Department of Economics and Business in Ashland, Va., staged the huge upset without any help from major Tea Party organizations.
But this troublesome fact hasn't stopped certain so-called Tea Party groups from capitalizing on Brat's victory, declaring enthusiastically that Cantor’s defeat equals a Tea Party insurgency.
More (http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party-groups-that-offered-dave-brat-zero-support-sure-are-thrilled-he-defeated-eric-cantor/article/2549568)
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http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party-groups-that-offered-dave-brat-zero-support-sure-are-thrilled-he-defeated-eric-cantor/article/2549568
Tea Party groups that offered Dave Brat zero support sure are thrilled he defeated Eric Cantor
By T. Becket Adams | June 11, 2014 | 9:15 am
A Tea Party candidate soundly defeated House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., on Tuesday, sending shockwaves through the Republican establishment and the Democratic Party.
And Dave Brat, the 52-year-old chairman of the Randolph-Macon College Department of Economics and Business in Ashland, Va., staged the huge upset without any help from major Tea Party organizations.
But this troublesome fact hasn't stopped certain so-called Tea Party groups from capitalizing on Brat's victory, declaring enthusiastically that Cantor’s defeat equals a Tea Party insurgency.
FreedomWorks president Matt Kibbe wrote: “Congratulations to Dave Brat on his huge upset. The statement from the grassroots could not be any clearer. It doesn't matter what office you hold or how powerful you are. If you lose touch with activists on the ground, then your seat is in danger.”
“The grassroots are taking their seat back at the table and returning accountability to Washington. Votes on Capitol Hill will be heard back in the district,” he added. “We are proud to stand with Dave Brat in his election and look forward to working with him to reform Washington, D.C.”
FreedomWorks has so far backed two losing primary candidates in 2014 and switched its endorsement in the Nebraska primary to Ben Sasse two weeks before the primary election. FreedomWorks later took credit for Sasse's victory.
Neither Club for Growth nor Heritage Action, two groups that "aim to pick off Republicans who stray from strict party orthodoxy," as the Wall Street Journal puts it, got involved with Brat's campaign.
The Madison Project also weighed in on Brat's win, saying, “just a few short weeks ago, the Establishment was working the media over trying to shut the coffin on conservatives and the Tea Party.”
The group added: “But first Mississippi, and now Virginia's 7th show that the people, and not the political class will not accept a growing government dead-set on expanding their power, and passing policies that do nothing but line the pockets of special interests,” he added.
And although Brat’s shocking victory can certainly be attributed to the tireless work of grassroots activists in his district, it’s important to remember that the aforementioned outside Tea Party groups offered him zero support.
Not one penny.
“Of the measly $4,805 in political expenditures against Cantor reported to the Federal Election Commission, none came from the big national tea party groups,” the Washington Post reported. “The bulk was spent by a newly formed super PAC called We Deserve Better PAC on an online ad that attacked Cantor as pro-amnesty.”
Meanwhile, outside groups spent nearly $366,000 on pro-Cantor ads.
Brat’s victory over the longtime Virginia congressman is even more impressive when you consider the fact that the self-identified Tea Party candidate spent a mere $100,000 on his campaign.
Cantor, on the other hand, burned through approximately $5 million trying to fend of his primary challenger, handing the House Majority Leader an obviously lopsided financial advantage. In fact, Cantor's office spent more money renting out steak houses for campaign events than Brat's office spent during the entire election cycle, according to FEC campaign finance data.
In short, conservative grassroots activists proved Tuesday that no entrenched politician is safe from a challenger with a strong, personalized ground game. That’s why Brat won. So-called Tea Party groups had nothing to do with Cantor’s defeat.
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If this doesn't show the true colors of SCF, Heritage Action and Freedom Works, I don't know what does.
The ONLY major win from a Tea Party candidate, and the PACS--those PACS that have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to defeat incumbents--had nothing to do with it. Now, Matt Kibbe and his other clown-car drivers are racing to bask in the glow of Brat's win.
These groups are about raising money to feather the nests of their organizers. Give money to campaigns. Stop funding Matt Kibbe and Jenny Beth Martin.
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http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/05/02/lets-face-it-tea-party-patriots-jenny-beth-martin-is-a-fraud/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tea-party-pacs-reap-money-for-midterms-but-spend-little-on-candidates/2014/04/26/0e52919a-cbd6-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html
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This is more of a referendum of the people against the establishment. Those groups have their place, but when it gets down to brass tacks, the people want control again. They are tired of establishment power brokers and they'll work to make a change with or without the help of 'titled groups'.
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June 11, 2014
"One Of the Best Teachers": David Brat's Professor Ratings Page
Kevin Glass
6/10/2014 9:35:00 PM - Kevin Glass
David Brat, the grassroots-fueled candidate who defeated Eric Cantor in the GOP primary in Virginia's 7th congressional district, is an academic economist at Randolph-Macon College in Ashland, Virginia. As anyone who's been in college in the age of the internet knows, that means he's got a page on RateMyProfessors.com - a page where students can submit their reviews.
The reviews for David Brat paint a picture of a well-liked professor who often had high demands of his students. Also, he has the coveted "hot chili pepper" on his profile - the symbol of a professor students think is particularly attractive.
Brat is "charming" and "knows how to incorporate real world examples to keep the class exciting and relatable," writes one typical reviewer. But Brat can "change assignments" and "sometimes it's unclear what he wants you to do." The review ends, "he's total eye candy!!"
Others write that Brat is "talented, humorous, and helpful"; "unparalleled in his knowledge"; "drills the material into your head"; and "one of the best teachers I have had."
They're not all good, though. Among "poor quality" reviews, Brat received comments like "not a great teacher... great guy, but almost too smart to teach"; and "no one ever understood what he wanted us to do... he was almost never there when we needed help."
One reviewer objected, writing that "the other comments that say he was not clear are BS. If you need clarity ask questions! I did and everything became very clear and apparent... really cares, great guy."
Whether any of these comments about his character or how he handles his assignments translates to Washington remains to be seen.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/kevinglass/2014/06/10/one-of-the-best-teachers-david-brats-professor-ratings-page-n1850086
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Cantor-Cancels-Keynote-Address-to-Pro-Amnesty-Group-After-Primary-Rout (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Cantor-Cancels-Keynote-Address-to-Pro-Amnesty-Group-After-Primary-Rout)
by Tony Lee 11 Jun 2014, 7:33 AM PDT
After his shocking primary loss on Tuesday, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) canceled his keynote address to the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) that was scheduled for Wednesday morning.
Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) took Cantor's spot.
Jay Timmons, the CEO of NAM, has been one of the more prominent amnesty supporters. He recently joined Chamber of Commerce CEO Tom Donohue on a panel where Timmons announced that he thought Congress would pass amnesty legislation during the lame-duck session as the final act of this Congress.
After Cantor's loss, though, amnesty legislation may be all but dead for this Congress.
During the final month of the campaign, Cantor tried to hide his past support of amnesty legislation by sending anti-amnesty mailers to voters in his district while Brat told voters that a vote for Cantor was a vote "for open borders." Brat, in an appearance on Breitbart News Sunday, said his primary against Cantor was the "last chance" to stop amnesty legislation.
"The central policy issue in this race has become Cantor’s absolute determination to pass an amnesty bill. Cantor is the No. 1 cheerleader in Congress for amnesty," Brat wrote in a Richmond Times-Dispatch op-ed in the final week of the campaign. "This is not the Republican way to fix our economy and labor markets."
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"This is not the Republican way to fix our economy and labor markets."
Oh, I like this.
Turning the tables on the redefinition crowd...
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This is not some massive turnaround for the Tea Party. The TP has LOST everywhere this primary season until tonight (not counting McDaniel's razor thin win). And Cantor was more TP than anything else.
So, the TP did what it does best and that is cut the throat of one of its own. To prove that it can do it.
Meanwhile, Lindsay Graham cruises to victory. The guy who WROTE the immigration bill in the Senate. Some Tea Party clout.
Where do you live?
Cantor was so anti tea party that he went to a George Soros and Union backed convention in Florida that was all about destroying the Tea Party!
That is one of the reasons for his loss!
And another thing .. People trying to act like there is some kind of third party called the Tea Party are morons.
As one lady put it .. so much better than I:
There is no such national political group named the “Tea Party”!
Whoever ignorantly proclaims themselves a “leader” of the Tea Party, you can discount them out of hand as an outright liar.
The Tea Party, of which I am a proud member, is nothing more and nothing less than a nationwide grass roots movement of individual USA citizens firmly taking responsibility, duty and control over our local, state and federal level elected government representatives, and also taking back our country as free men and women.
We, the people, are not very popular with the professional political class, and their idiotic pseudo partisan “teams”, but we vastly outnumber them, and we can't be easily bought off or intimidated.
We don't elect “leaders”, we elect representatives.
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Any population sector that is unfailingly tied to the drug of freebies and big oppressive government is not going to vote GOP, no matter what.
You can take that to the bank.
We can never lose em cause we never had em. And we ain't gonna get em.
After Reagan gave amnesty to the illegals .. hispanic support of the republican party .. went Down!
They come from a third world $#it hole and want to make America another!
Just like the cancerous Democrats who move from state to state destroying each in their path!
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Tea Party groups that offered Dave Brat zero support sure are thrilled he defeated Eric Cantor
T. Becket Adams
Washington Examiner
June 11, 2014
More (http://washingtonexaminer.com/tea-party-groups-that-offered-dave-brat-zero-support-sure-are-thrilled-he-defeated-eric-cantor/article/2549568)
I read the entire article. My guess is that the "established" Tea Party groups, presumed Cantor would win, and didn't bother to support his opponent.
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This is more of a referendum of the people against the establishment. Those groups have their place, but when it gets down to brass tacks, the people want control again. They are tired of establishment power brokers and they'll work to make a change with or without the help of 'titled groups'.
The people of Cantor's district kicked him out because he was virtually absent from their district. Yes, immigration played a role, but Lindsay Graham won in SC.
Why?
Because Lindsay is always in his district. Cantor, not so much.
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The people of Cantor's district kicked him out because he was virtually absent from their district. Yes, immigration played a role, but Lindsay Graham won in SC.
Why?
Because Lindsay is always in his district. Cantor, not so much.
Reminds me of a saying attributed to the late Tip O'Neill: All politics is local.
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Cantor had an ACU rating of 95 for his 13 years in the House. It was 84 for 2013.
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Cantor had an ACU rating of 95 for his 13 years in the House. It was 84 for 2013.
but if he wasn't present in his own district a sufficient amount of the time, then that rating is not as relevant as his absence. Sometimes absence doesn't make the heart grow fonder; sometimes it causes the abandoned one to seek someone else to love.
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After Reagan gave amnesty to the illegals .. hispanic support of the republican party .. went Down!
They come from a third world $#it hole and want to make America another!
Just like the cancerous Democrats who move from state to state destroying each in their path!
Perhaps because rank-and-file republicans continued to demonize them while democrats, sensing the opportunity, wooed them assiduously.
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Oceander wrote above:
[[ Then what is your solution - in detail - for "protecting" the nation's borders? How would you stop the flow of illegals? No generalities, details, specific, precise details. ]]
OK, I'll step up to the plate.
We need to re-establish a real "border" to begin with.
I like what the Israelis have done in this regard:
(http://www.lysistrataproject.org/assets/QalqilyaWall.jpg)
How's that for starters?
:amen:
If we cannot control our own borders we have no business calling ourselves the greatest nation on Earth!
Once we get REAL control of the borders then we can discuss rationally what to do with the malefactors already present inside them.
And it has not one thing to do with "hating", or even disliking, anyone!
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I'll take a crack at it.
First, foremost, and without delay, I would tighten penalties on employing illegals. I wouldn't over burden employers, I'd simply use SSN as the qualifier. If your prospective employee produces an SSN that checks out, the employer is safe. For small businesses, this is problematic, so the real impact would be on employers with say, over 50 employees.
I would absolutely not offer government services to illegals. If you are a guest worker, or have a visa sure, you get access. If it's a life threatening event, emergency services apply to anyone, legal or not. Beyond that, if you're an illegal, that means... NOT legal. Get legal, or get out.
Tighten security on the border. Why is it that Mexico can secure it's southern border, but we can't? Does the Mexican government have more money than us? No. They have the political will. They turn people back, or jail them. We do neither.
The people who are here, if they have been here for some arbitrary period, say 5 years, they are ours, like it or not. Put them on a path to citizenship. Amnesty. But do that AFTER the border has been secured. Those here less than 5 years, illegally, face deportation. Not in the sense of a man hunt, but as they become known, (traffic violations, applying for aid, etc), they face deportation. Why should Mexicans get preference to Indians, or Irish, or Laotians or whatever? I know people who have been fighting the immigration system, legally. It's not easy. But, for some reason, we accept that walking across the border is a good thing to do for Mexicans.
Agree on all points!
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The people of Cantor's district kicked him out because he was virtually absent from their district. Yes, immigration played a role, but Lindsay Graham won in SC.
Why?
Because Lindsay is always in his district. Cantor, not so much.
....and Lindsay had six opponents who tried to 'I'm more conservative than you RINO' each other. You are right though in that Lindsay does know how to play the local game like Bernie played the blue hairs for their money and sympathy.
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....and Lindsay had six opponents who tried to 'I'm more conservative than you RINO' each other. You are right though in that Lindsay does know how to play the local game like Bernie played the blue hairs for their money and sympathy.
And yet you would think, if anti-Graham sentiment was so high, that the populace would have known that a vote for ANY of the six other opponents— even as a protest vote— would have had the same effect of forcing Graham into a runoff.
Instead, the only places where Graham failed to break majority were Greenville/Spartanburg (where Bright broke 25%) and Edgefield County (where Richard Cash almost beat Graham). Graham won at least a plurality in every county. There are quite a few counties in SC where Graham managed over 2/3 of the vote. That's not the work of a divided opposition; in fact, that's pretty much no opposition at all.
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And yet you would think, if anti-Graham sentiment was so high, that the populace would have known that a vote for ANY of the six other opponents— even as a protest vote— would have had the same effect of forcing Graham into a runoff.
Instead, the only places where Graham failed to break majority were Greenville/Spartanburg (where Bright broke 25%) and Edgefield County (where Richard Cash almost beat Graham). Graham won at least a plurality in every county. There are quite a few counties in SC where Graham managed over 2/3 of the vote. That's not the work of a divided opposition; in fact, that's pretty much no opposition at all.
Some habits die hard and South Carolinians have a habit of going with what they know. See Strom Thurmond and Ernest Hollings for examples of this. I don't know about Hollings but Thurmond was perceived as very responsive to his constituents. But it's hard to believe that over the two or three hundred years he was in the Senate, no better candidates came along to replace him. :-)
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Cantor-Campaign-Spent-More-at-One-Steakhouse-than-Brat-Did-on-Entire-Campaign (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/11/Cantor-Campaign-Spent-More-at-One-Steakhouse-than-Brat-Did-on-Entire-Campaign)
by Tony Lee 11 Jun 2014, 1:17 PM PDT
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor's (R-VA) campaign spent more money at one posh steakhouse before his shocking Tuesday primary defeat than his opponent Dave Brat spent on his whole campaign.
Cantor's campaign spent $124,177 at Bobby Van'S Grill and Steakhouse and $44,460 at Blt Steak for a total of $168,637.
According to Open Secrets, Cantor raised $5.4 million while Brat raised $206,663. While Cantor spent nearly all of his haul ($5.1 million), Brat spent $122,793 for his entire campaign, which was less than what Cantor's campaign spent at Bobby Van'S alone ($124,177).
Some analysts felt Brat was more effective in delivering red meat to his conservative base.
The data is based on filings to the Federal Election Commission. Cantor's latest filing was submitted May 29 and covers through May 21.
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Some habits die hard and South Carolinians have a habit of going with what they know. See Strom Thurmond and Ernest Hollings for examples of this. I don't know about Hollings but Thurmond was perceived as very responsive to his constituents. But it's hard to believe that over the two or three hundred years he was in the Senate, no better candidates came along to replace him. :-)
Maybe, just maybe opposition to Graham would be more effective if it avoided silly juvenile stuff naming him as a homosexual, and ignoring his 30+ year service as an Air Force reservist JAG Attorney.
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Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.
Last time in 2012, Cantor got 58% (his worst in 7 terms) versus the dem's 41%. My scenario is very plausible.
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"It is Tea Party conservatism that best matches Jewish tradition. When it comes right down to it tradition tells us those principals such as limited government, individual responsibility, and traditional morals are all Jewish principals."
Jeff Dunetz: To The Liberals Blaming Eric Cantor's Loss On Tea Party Anti-Semitism
As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish.
Truth Revolt (http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/dunetz-liberals-blaming-eric-cantors-loss-tea-party-anti-semitism)
Almost immediately after Eric Cantor's loss on Tuesday, Twitter was bombarded by liberals who argued the reason for Cantor's loss in the GOP primary was the Tea Party's hatred of the Majority Leader's Jewish faith. Soon after the mainstream media joined in with the narrative as reported by Caleb Howe in another report at TruthRevolt. That narrative can only be described as Horse Sh*t! As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish. Tea Party principals, such as limited government, individual responsibility and traditional morals, are all deeply rooted in Jewish tradition. Even the fact that America’s founders intended for the county to be led by people who based their political decisions on religious values (something that scares the heck out of most liberal Jews) complements Jewish tradition.
The creation narrative in Genesis explains that man was created in God’s image. But we were also taught that our maker has no bodily form, so how can that be? The Bible is not teaching us that we are all dead ringers for "big guy upstairs" (if that were the case the pictures on everyone’s drivers licenses would look the same, no one would be able to get a check cashed, and CSI would be a very boring TV show).
Created in God’s image is supposed to teach us that just as God acts as a free being without prior restraint to do right and wrong, so does man. God performs good deeds as a matter of his own free choice, and because we are created in his image, so can man. The Rabbis teach us that only through free choice, can man truly be in the image of God. It is further understood that for man to have true free choice, he must not only have inner free will but have it in an environment in which a choice between obedience and disobedience exists. God thus created the world such that both good and evil can operate freely; this is what the Rabbis mean when they said, “All is in the hands of Heaven except the fear of Heaven” (Talmud, Berachot 33b). God controls all the options we have, but it is up to man to choose between the correct or incorrect option, or to put it a different way, free will is the divine version of limited government. God picks the winning direction, but does not pick winners and losers.
Because we all are created in God’s image, Jews believe that ”all men are created equal,” meaning that we all have the same ability to be infinitely good or wicked, to be the best we can be based on the talent God gave us, and to forge a relationship with God regardless of intellectual capability, social background, physical strength, etc. Created equal does not mean, as the liberals ascribe to, that when it comes to talents, predilections, or natural abilities we are all equal. Nor does it mean we all should have the same big screen TV, healthcare, ice cream toppings, or savings account balance. ...
Click on link (http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/dunetz-liberals-blaming-eric-cantors-loss-tea-party-anti-semitism) for rest of article.
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Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.
Don't they already have a candidate?: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140469
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Do not be surprised to find the democrats see an opportunity, recruit a big name candidate, get him/her lotsa money, and give Brat a good contest.
Last time in 2012, Cantor got 58% (his worst in 7 terms) versus the dem's 41%. My scenario is very plausible.
The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot.
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The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot.
Jack Trammell
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/meet-jack-trammell-the-democrat-who-will-face-david-brat-the-man-who-beat-eric-cantor/2014/06/10/df00f972-f10a-11e3-914c-1fbd0614e2d4_story.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Trammell
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Sorry, but my cynicism is red-lining here.......
1) This was an "open" primary...which means that you could have cross-overs.
2) Operation Chaos...albeit in reverse.
Only thing I can't come up with....without going too far down the rabbit hole....is their motive.
Cantor was working closely with Obama on more than one issue.
Is it really that the average American is fed up with Washington, DC and the erosion of our free markets and freedoms?
Or....is it tantamount to the neighborhood agitator swatting the hornet's nest at the Republican picnic?
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The Dems already had their primary, and their candidate is on the ballot.
And the dems have NEVER changed a candidate, when they saw an advantage and opportunity?
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"It is Tea Party conservatism that best matches Jewish tradition. When it comes right down to it tradition tells us those principals such as limited government, individual responsibility, and traditional morals are all Jewish principals."
Jeff Dunetz: To The Liberals Blaming Eric Cantor's Loss On Tea Party Anti-Semitism
As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish.
Truth Revolt
Almost immediately after Eric Cantor's loss on Tuesday, Twitter was bombarded by liberals who argued the reason for Cantor's loss in the GOP primary was the Tea Party's hatred of the Majority Leader's Jewish faith. Soon after the mainstream media joined in with the narrative as reported by Caleb Howe in another report at TruthRevolt. That narrative can only be described as Horse Sh*t! As an observant Jew I can respond that my affiliation with the Tea Party is precisely because I am Jewish. Tea Party principals, such as limited government, individual responsibility and traditional morals, are all deeply rooted in Jewish tradition. Even the fact that America’s founders intended for the county to be led by people who based their political decisions on religious values (something that scares the heck out of most liberal Jews) complements Jewish tradition.
The creation narrative in Genesis explains that man was created in God’s image. But we were also taught that our maker has no bodily form, so how can that be? The Bible is not teaching us that we are all dead ringers for "big guy upstairs" (if that were the case the pictures on everyone’s drivers licenses would look the same, no one would be able to get a check cashed, and CSI would be a very boring TV show).
Created in God’s image is supposed to teach us that just as God acts as a free being without prior restraint to do right and wrong, so does man. God performs good deeds as a matter of his own free choice, and because we are created in his image, so can man. The Rabbis teach us that only through free choice, can man truly be in the image of God. It is further understood that for man to have true free choice, he must not only have inner free will but have it in an environment in which a choice between obedience and disobedience exists. God thus created the world such that both good and evil can operate freely; this is what the Rabbis mean when they said, “All is in the hands of Heaven except the fear of Heaven” (Talmud, Berachot 33b). God controls all the options we have, but it is up to man to choose between the correct or incorrect option, or to put it a different way, free will is the divine version of limited government. God picks the winning direction, but does not pick winners and losers.
Because we all are created in God’s image, Jews believe that ”all men are created equal,” meaning that we all have the same ability to be infinitely good or wicked, to be the best we can be based on the talent God gave us, and to forge a relationship with God regardless of intellectual capability, social background, physical strength, etc. Created equal does not mean, as the liberals ascribe to, that when it comes to talents, predilections, or natural abilities we are all equal. Nor does it mean we all should have the same big screen TV, healthcare, ice cream toppings, or savings account balance. ...
Click on link (http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/dunetz-liberals-blaming-eric-cantors-loss-tea-party-anti-semitism) for rest of article.
That's pretty powerful.
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Sorry, but my cynicism is red-lining here.......
1) This was an "open" primary...which means that you could have cross-overs.
2) Operation Chaos...albeit in reverse.
Only thing I can't come up with....without going too far down the rabbit hole....is their motive.
Cantor was working closely with Obama on more than one issue.
Is it really that the average American is fed up with Washington, DC and the erosion of our free markets and freedoms?
Or....is it tantamount to the neighborhood agitator swatting the hornet's nest at the Republican picnic?
According to a high profile talk radio host, there was a super high turnout that didn't exist in 2012.
All the people who stayed at home in 2012 came out for this one.
How he knows this I do not know.
I only know that I am skeptical of everything I hear about this "miracle".
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Looks like Cantor is taking the high road by resigning as Majority Leader.
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Looks like Cantor is taking the high road by resigning as Majority Leader.
If all this is being scripted and choreographed...then he/she is a political genius.
When you have no media to be concerned with...anything is possible.
But genius nonetheless.
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makes me wanna cry....almost. :)
Hey, if I work on that crying thing I could become speaker.
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http://www.mofopolitics.com/2014/05/02/lets-face-it-tea-party-patriots-jenny-beth-martin-is-a-fraud/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/tea-party-pacs-reap-money-for-midterms-but-spend-little-on-candidates/2014/04/26/0e52919a-cbd6-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html
Here's two more, Sink:
INGRAHAM: National Tea Party Groups Didn’t Help Brat [VIDEO] (http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/11/ingraham-national-tea-party-groups-didnt-help-brat-video/)
A Long Shot So Long, the Tea Party Took a Pass: David Brat Waged Solo Fight Against Eric Cantor (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/us/politics/david-brat-waged-solo-fight-against-eric-cantor.html)
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According to a high profile talk radio host, there was a super high turnout that didn't exist in 2012.
All the people who stayed at home in 2012 came out for this one.
How he knows this I do not know.
I only know that I am skeptical of everything I hear about this "miracle".
And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt -
While Republican primary turnout spiked by 28 percent over 2012, according to the State Board of Elections, Cantor received nearly 8,500 fewer votes this year than he did in the 2012 Republican primary, a drop that was larger than Brat's 7,200-vote margin of victory. Regardless of how many Democrats turned out to oppose Cantor, he still would have prevailed had he maintained the same level of support as in his 2012 landslide.
So a lot of Cantor's former supporters didn't vote for him. That wasn't a good trend. You can't blame dim crossover votes for the loss.
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Neither you nor I are in a position to provide and debate specific, precise details. (Unless of course, you are a public administrator, civil engineer, physical security expert, etc. I am not.) The discussion is a discussion of principles. So if you are looking for "specific, precise details" you need to ask elsewhere.
The answer that is appropriate for this type of discussion is pretty basic. What do we do to protect any plot of land of value that is subject to attack?
We enclose it with a fence/barrier of sufficient dimensions and durability to sustain the attempts at illegal penetration. Additionally, human/electronic guardians are also established, as required.
Does the cost to develop and maintain a perimeter security barrier increase with the scale? Certainly. However, harkening back to the principle being discussed, if a nation state can not find the means to pay for the requisite security barrier, then the nation state will cease to exist. For the United States, if the answer is that we can not afford to develop and maintain this core function of national government from within our $3+ Trillion federal budget, then we deserve exactly what we are seeing happen. (Obviously the real world answer to that is that we certainly can afford it, the reason that we don't have it is because those that control the functional and spending priorities of the federal government don't want it!!)
goopo
Good answer. Especially that last section in parenthesis. Establishment Republicans want to feed their corporate masters, and liberal socialists want the power and control that comes with the ready-made third-world voting block.
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About Lindsey....
He ran all positive commercials, mostly about himself. While they were on every station here, at what seemed like 24/7, they were well done. He started around Christmas I think?? Anyway, you had no clue who all was running against him until the past 3 weeks. They were mostly neg ads touting them as better than Graham. But what I think is that all the LIVs watched all the feel good commercials and voted for him... We also have open primaries here too.
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Grahamnesty got what? 57% of the republican vote? The other virtual unknowns got 43% of the Republican vote. What does that say about the incumbent's strength? That he's weak, that's what.
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Grahamnesty got what? 57% of the republican vote? The other virtual unknowns got 43% of the Republican vote. What does that say about the incumbent's strength? That he's weak, that's what.
Obama got just barely enough votes more than Romney; does that mean that he's weak? He had it going pretty strong after 2012, until he started throwing it all away with his blunders in Syria, etc.
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"And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt"
Rush
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"And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt"
Rush
I'm not surprised. He used to be the one to listen to for facts, but in recent years he's been more than happy to opine whether he has the facts or not. I gave up after I started spending more time fact checking his statements than listening to his chatter.
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Boehner Treats Cantor Ouster As Though Cantor Is Dying
Truth Revolt (http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/boehner-treats-cantor-ouster-though-cantor-dying)
:laugh:
Somebody lost their job and his friend feels sad for him.
:laugh:
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Dave Brat totally crapped the bed tonight with Chuck Todd. :thud:
“Where are you on the minimum wage?” Todd began, starting off with a question right in this economics expert’s wheelhouse.
Brat railed against unspecific distorting effects on the market before he was prompted to say whether or not he thought a minimum wage should even exist? “I don’t have a well-crafted response on that one,” Brat replied.
…Okay. So, how about foreign policy?
“Would you be in favor of arming the Syrian rebels?” Todd asked.
“Hey, Chuck, I thought we were just going to chat today about the celebratory aspect,” Brat replied. “I’d love to go through all this, but my mind is just, uh, I didn’t get much sleep.”
“I love the policy questions, I’m happy to do more, but I just wanted to talk about the victory here,” he continued
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Dave Brat totally crapped the bed tonight with Chuck Todd.
This is how the media manipulates perception.
Had Cantor won, you can bet they would have just 'chatted on the celebratory aspect of the win' instead of starting the 'candidate destruction' phase right away.
Conservatives shouldn't give interviews unless they know they will be treated fairly, which pretty much leaves out the msm...
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This is how the media manipulates perception.
Had Cantor won, you can bet they would have just 'chatted on the celebratory aspect of the win' instead of starting the 'candidate destruction' phase right away.
Conservatives shouldn't give interviews unless they know they will be treated fairly, which pretty much leaves out the msm...
I saw the interview live, it was on Todd's morning show. To me, it looked and sounded like Brat was truly shocked at the detailed policy questions.
Having heard him the evening before, it was like two different guys. Although, on election eve he was talking "principles" with friendly hosts. I actually did think that he was probably sleep deprived and it was probably good that he begged off on the questions, he just could have done it a bit more smoothly....
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I saw the interview live, it was on Todd's morning show. To me, it looked and sounded like Brat was truly shocked at the detailed policy questions.
Having heard him the evening before, it was like two different guys. Although, on election eve he was talking "principles" with friendly hosts. I actually did think that he was probably sleep deprived and it was probably good that he begged off on the questions, he just could have done it a bit more smoothly....
Well, my point is that Todd would not have immediately launched into policy discussions had he been interviewing Cantor after a primary victory.
It's a tactic the media uses to portray candidates they don't like in the most negative way possible...
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Life after Cantor
By New York Post Editorial Board (http://nypost.com/2014/06/11/life-after-cantor/)
June 11, 2014 | 11:15pm
Only one fact is clear from Eric Cantor’s primary defeat: No one saw it coming.
This alone is a reason for skepticism about the Monday-morning quarterbacking we’re now hearing. But if college professor Dave Brat’s upset victory over the House majority leader indeed spells doom for immigration reform, Republicans and Democrats alike have some hard thinking to do about what’s ahead.
For Republican opponents of reform, the two main objections have always been lack of security at the southern border and “amnesty” — i.e., a path to citizenship for the millions here illegally.
Here’s the irony. The border is plainly broken, as we can see from the humanitarian crisis provoked by an influx of thousands of unaccompanied children that is overwhelming our folks on the ground.
But if Cantor’s defeat leads House Republicans to shy away from advancing their own plans for reform — which would begin with a bill to improve border security — what we will have for the foreseeable future is a border that remains broken, as well as a de facto amnesty for those here.
Meanwhile, Democrats who say bipartisan reform is their top priority ought to be pressing President Obama. Because any skepticism GOP primary voters might have had about the president’s commitment to enforcing the law would only have been exacerbated by seeing our border overwhelmed and our president doing nothing.
Put it this way: Is this something a president truly interested in a bipartisan immigration bill would do?
As for Eric Cantor, on this contentious issue he put forward the worst position of all for a politician: one that angered all by attempting to please all.
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I saw the interview live, it was on Todd's morning show. To me, it looked and sounded like Brat was truly shocked at the detailed policy questions.
Having heard him the evening before, it was like two different guys. Although, on election eve he was talking "principles" with friendly hosts. I actually did think that he was probably sleep deprived and it was probably good that he begged off on the questions, he just could have done it a bit more smoothly....
What do you think of this?
MSNBC.com Deceptively Edits Dave Brat to Suggest He Was 'Dodging' Questions
Ken Shepherd
NewsBusters
June 11, 2014
Editors at MSNBC.com trimmed down Republican congressional nominee Dave Brat's June 11 phone interview with MSNBC's Chuck Todd in order to paint him as dodging questions from the Daily Rundown host.
But a review of the full interview [listen to the mp3 audio here] shows that Brat had already and seemingly quite gladly answered a few policy questions on such hot issues as the minimum wage, immigration reform, and his stance on Wall Street's influence on the business wing of the GOP.
"Brat dodges Chuck Todd's questions," blared a teaser headline. "Brat: I just wanted to talk about the victory," reads the headline at the video link. "Virginia primary winner and Tea-Party member Dave Brat joins Chuck Todd to discuss his primary win – and it appears that’s all he wanted to talk about," was how MSNBC.com summarized the clip.
Readers of the MSNBC.com website who hadn't the benefit of watching the interview earlier in the morning would have come away with a wildly different perspective than someone who watched the full interview.
Below is the full segment's transcript. The portion underlined is the portion that MSNBC.com isolated: ...
More (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2014/06/11/msnbccom-deceptively-edits-dave-brat-suggest-he-was-dodging-questions)
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Quote from: evadR² on June 11, 2014, 11:08:18 PM
"And which host would that be? Anyway, he should have done a little more research. Here's just one excerpt"
Rush
I'm not surprised. He used to be the one to listen to for facts, but in recent years he's been more than happy to opine whether he has the facts or not. I gave up after I started spending more time fact checking his statements than listening to his chatter.
So, are you saying that Rush's claim is inaccurate/not factual ?
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Well, my point is that Todd would not have immediately launched into policy discussions had he been interviewing Cantor after a primary victory.
It's a tactic the media uses to portray candidates they don't like in the most negative way possible...
LOL. if Cantor won there likely would have been no interview as it wouldn't have been seen as "news." But I get your overall point, yes.
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What do you think of this?
MSNBC.com Deceptively Edits Dave Brat to Suggest He Was 'Dodging' Questions
Ken Shepherd
NewsBusters
June 11, 2014
More (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2014/06/11/msnbccom-deceptively-edits-dave-brat-suggest-he-was-dodging-questions)
Yes, the full interview is the one I saw in the morning. I had no idea they aired an edited one later, though I am not surprised! Thanks for posting that!
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After loss blamed on Hamptons trips, Cantor goes to the Hamptons
By Emily Smith
New York Post (http://pagesix.com/2014/06/12/eric-cantor-heads-to-the-hamptons-despite-criticism-for-spending-too-much-time-there/?_ga=1.230091804.1244658742.1370464830)
June 12, 2014 | 10:25pmAlthough House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s stunning defeat was blamed on spending too much time in the Hamptons, he’s commiserating out east this weekend.
After the No. 2 House Republican was ousted in a primary loss, he’s still on for a $500-a-plate luncheon fund-raiser in Quogue Saturday for Republican Lee Zeldin.
Cantor is also due to appear Saturday at a “Father’s Day Sabbath” at the Hampton Synagogue in Westhampton Beach, where he’s expected to speak.
A synagogue rep said, “As of this moment, Eric Cantor is still going to appear.” An unnamed top Republican had told Politico Cantor lost because he “spent too much time on the road and in the Hamptons.”
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The GOP-e will do everything in their power to defeat Brat in the general election. Count on it.
Are you already setting up the plausible deniability track for Brat's possible defeat in the general election?
If the GOP was impotent in the primary to the degree that it couldn't help Cantor win against the "will of the people", what newly-found potency will they have to overcome that "will of the people" power at the general election?
Brat will win or lose the general based on the exact same standard that he won the primary. If his message resonates with enough people, he will win, if not, he will lose.
If he wins, the blogosphere will say that he did because his principles connected with the people, but if he loses, it won't attribute the loss to the opposite of "his principles connected with the people", which would be the logical thing to do. The blogosphere will go into full conspiracy theorist mode if he loses, and suddenly, the same bumbling inept politicos in the GOP who couldn't impact the outcome of a primary, will become Dr. Evil and exert mind-control of Marvel movie villain proportions over the Virginia voters.
It's the conservative version of the progressive's theory of GWB who (in their eyes) was both the dumbest SOB ever to walk the face of the Earth and an evil genius of mythical proportions.
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Excellent take on this, Luis! :patriot:
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Are you already setting up the plausible deniability track for Brat's possible defeat in the general election?
If the GOP was impotent in the primary to the degree that it couldn't help Cantor win against the "will of the people", what newly-found potency will they have to overcome that "will of the people" power at the general election?
Brat will win or lose the general based on the exact same standard that he won the primary. If his message resonates with enough people, he will win, if not, he will lose.
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The GOP-e will do everything in their power to defeat Brat in the general election. Count on it.
"Are you already setting up the plausible deniability track for Brat's possible defeat in the general election?"
Not at all. I am pointing out the devious, vindictive nature of the GOP establishment.
One of their prize possessions has been defeated and they are pissed. They will do whatever it takes to defeat Brat, including teaming with democrats. This seat is expendable when compared with the message that has to be sent to anyone who opposes them.
Mitch and others like him have made this painfully obvious. It is the goal of the pubbie establishment to expunge itself of all Tea Party upstarts who would dare run against a pubbie incumbent.
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The GOP-e will do everything in their power to defeat Brat in the general election. Count on it.
"Are you already setting up the plausible deniability track for Brat's possible defeat in the general election?"
Not at all. I am pointing out the devious, vindictive nature of the GOP establishment.
One of their prize possessions has been defeated and they are pissed. They will do whatever it takes to defeat Brat, including teaming with democrats. This seat is expendable when compared with the message that has to be sent to anyone who opposes them.
Mitch and others like him have made this painfully obvious. It is the goal of the pubbie establishment to expunge itself of all Tea Party upstarts who would dare run against a pubbie incumbent.
If they are so evil and vindictive, why didn't they just simply not let Brat win?
You're setting up the out if and when Brat loses.
You'll blame it on some secret GOP plot, and not on Brat's lack of money and experience.
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A Defeated Eric Cantor Finds Religion in the Hamptons (http://nypost.com/2014/06/14/eric-cantor-finds-religion-in-the-hamptons/)
NY Post
Rep. Eric Cantor, the House majority leader crushed in a shocking Republican primary Tuesday, has found religion.
“Having been through what I’ve been through this week … as Jews we have studied the Torah, we read every week in some way, shape or form, and are reminded about personal setbacks — but we are also reminded about optimism of the future, about that bigger goal, that bigger vision that we as Jews are about” the Republican told 250 worshippers at a Father’s Day service Saturday at Hampton Synagogue in Westhampton Beach.
“Our country, this democracy, is about action, it is about participating, it is about speaking your voice and let it be heard,” he said.
Cantor, who plans to step down as majority leader on Aug. 1, spoke at a service honoring Jerry W. Levin, his friend and a top fundraiser for state Sen. Lee Zeldin (R-Suffolk).
He ducked a reporter’s questions about the implications of his defeat when four security guards hustled him away into a bathroom.
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Any member of Congress who believes this nation is a democracy probably deserves to lose. Of course, that would be nearly all of them, from both parties.
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Linda Chavez says in the NY Post (http://nypost.com/2014/06/13/cantor-the-wobbler-immigration-didnt-doom-him/) it wasn't immigration that caused Cantor's defeat[/url].
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s primary defeat this week is being widely touted as a warning to Republicans contemplating immigration reform.
This narrative has it that because Cantor’s opponent, David Brat, is a hard-line immigration opponent who accused Cantor of being “pro-amnesty,” immigration was the deciding factor in the race.
But the facts don’t bear out this restrictionist fantasy.
First, whatever else one can say about Cantor — that he is one of the brightest members of the House, for example — he is no friend to immigration reform.
NumbersUSA, an opponent of both legal and illegal immigration, gave Cantor an overall B rating in its “report card” on his voting record from 2011-2014, including an A-plus on reducing “amnesty entitlements” and an A-minus on “reducing illegal jobs and presence.”
Cantor would’ve scored higher overall, but he voted for visas for high-tech and other needed workers, and the restrictionists want no immigration, period.
What seems to have given Brat an opening to attack him was Cantor’s willingness to consider allowing unauthorized immigrants who had been brought to the United States as children to serve in the military and earn the legal right to stay here and eventually become citizens.
But when push came to shove and Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.) tried to get a vote on a bill to do just that, Cantor shut him down.
Cantor’s defeat was a surprise, but doesn’t indicate that immigration reform is toxic for Republicans.
In fact, Sen. Lindsey Graham’s overwhelming victory in his South Carolina primary on the same night suggests that being outspokenly pro-reform — Graham co-sponsored the Senate immigration bill last year — doesn’t doom a GOP candidate.
Graham’s advantage was that he has been consistent and not afraid to explain his support for reform, while Cantor spoke out of both sides of his mouth, sounding amenable to very limited changes in the law to benefit kids brought here illegally by their parents, but then quashing actual legislation that would accomplish that aim.
Polls consistently show that Republicans don’t like the status quo. They want legal immigration reform, and a majority is in favor of legalizing the status of unauthorized immigrants already here.
A new poll out by FWD.us, conducted by 10 Republican polling firms, shows that more than two-thirds of GOP-registered voters — including Tea Party voters, self-identified strong conservatives and Republican Evangelicals — favor legalization or a path to citizenship.
But the poll is even more interesting for what it says about Hispanics and the future of the Republican Party.
The GOP has lost important ground to Democrats in recent years because the party is viewed overwhelmingly by Hispanics as unfriendly to them.
As I’ve written many times, Hispanic voters aren’t monolithic in their support of Democrats. Going back more than 40 years, a significant proportion of Hispanics has voted for Republican candidates.
Indeed, in the FWD.us poll, 51 percent of respondents say they have voted for a GOP candidate in the past.
The overwhelming majority of Hispanics who are registered to vote consider themselves moderate (28 percent), conservative (23 percent) or very conservative (13 percent).
While Hispanics are not as suspicious of government as many GOP voters are — 51 percent see government as a help in their daily lives — they prefer smaller government and lower taxes over higher taxes and more services by more than two to one.
They also see government’s role as promoting opportunity, not fairness, by almost as high of a margin.
But the most important finding in the poll is the way in which a candidate’s position on immigration reform might influence a voter’s choice.
Three-quarters of Hispanic voters said they would be more likely to listen to a Republican candidate’s views on other issues if the candidate supported immigration reform with a path to citizenship.
Cantor’s loss shouldn’t be read as a referendum on immigration reform.
The only thing it proves is that being wishy-washy on reform leaves a candidate open to attacks by extremists on the issue who will gladly exploit the candidate’s own fears into becoming reality.
Graham’s principled defense of his stance is the right model — and the only one that gives Republicans a prayer of ever winning the White House again.
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If they are so evil and vindictive, why didn't they just simply not let Brat win?
You're setting up the out if and when Brat loses.
You'll blame it on some secret GOP plot, and not on Brat's lack of money and experience.
Well, evil is your word, not mine.
Give it time, you'll see.
To answer your question as to " why didn't they just simply not let Brat win?", quite simply they didn't see it coming. They've got their heads so far up their asses with their own agenda that they no longer listen to the people. They are lazy and full of money.
After all, if any seat is safe it's the majority leader of the house....right??
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After all, if any seat is safe it's the majority leader of the house....right??
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Well, evil is your word, not mine.
Give it time, you'll see.
To answer your question as to " why didn't they just simply not let Brat win?", quite simply they didn't see it coming. They've got their heads so far up their asses with their own agenda that they no longer listen to the people. They are lazy and full of money.
After all, if any seat is safe it's the majority leader of the house....right??
Here's what I see consistently on this forum.
A) When a liked Republican loses a race to any Democrat it is because of ballot stuffing.
B) When a TEA Party candidate loses to a GOP candidate in a primary it's because the districting is unfair to the TEA Party candidate
C) When a TEA Party candidate wins a primary, it's because the GOP was too stupid/lazy to see it coming, and the will of the people expressed itself.
D) If that TEA Party candidate loses the election, it's because the GOP obstructed his of her victory.
That's textbook Barack Obama blame game.
If Brat and his people can't win this, for whatever reason it is that they can't win, they don't deserve to be there.
If the TEA Party can't defeat whatever obstacles the GOP puts in their path to political significance, then they don't belong in DC.
If they want to convince anyone that they are the political party to lead America in this world, then they have to first prove that they can handle anything and everything that the GOP AND the DNC throws at them, and come out on top.
Russia, China, Iran, and the rest of the America-hating world won't play by the rules either
So they need to quit playing the victim role, quit assigning blame for their failures when they fail, and start putting on the mantle of winners, not whiners.
The obstacles they may face in their way to national power are minuscule in comparison to those they will face after they achieve power.
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Here's what I see consistently on this forum.
A) When a liked Republican loses a race to any Democrat it is because of ballot stuffing.
B) When a TEA Party candidate loses to a GOP candidate in a primary it's because the districting is unfair to the TEA Party candidate
C) When a TEA Party candidate wins a primary, it's because the GOP was too stupid/lazy to see it coming, and the will of the people expressed itself.
D) If that TEA Party candidate loses the election, it's because the GOP obstructed his of her victory.
That's textbook Barack Obama blame game.
If Brat and his people can't win this, for whatever reason it is that they can't win, they don't deserve to be there.
If the TEA Party can't defeat whatever obstacles the GOP puts in their path to political significance, then they don't belong in DC.
If they want to convince anyone that they are the political party to lead America in this world, then they have to first prove that they can handle anything and everything that the GOP AND the DNC throws at them, and come out on top.
Russia, China, Iran, and the rest of the America-hating world won't play by the rules either
So they need to quit playing the victim role, quit assigning blame for their failures when they fail, and start putting on the mantle of winners, not whiners.
The obstacles they may face in their way to national power are minuscule in comparison to those they will face after they achieve power.
Yes, all true.
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Conservatives as victims.
How can you sell a product, if its makers and customers continually argue what it is? And if powerful forces demand it be unpopular, unmarketable?
To satisfy "the base" a "conservative must be against abortions in cases of rape, EVEN though polls show that to be an extremely unpopular position among voters.
77% think abortion should be legal for rape victims.
18% oppose legal abortion for rape victims, yet this is the position virtually demanded by "the base."
Brat has a future in politics, for he has spoken out of both sides of his mouth on this subject.
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Here's what I see consistently on this forum ...
Luis, I haven't noticed that here because thus far I haven't spent a lot of time here. However, I'll take your word for it because I have noticed it at other boards.
As I said on another thread, I've noticed over the years that conservatives never do anything wrong. Whenever they come up short, it's always because of the Democrats, the MSM, and the "RINOs."
We need to live in the real world.
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I think it is a mistake to assume the Tea Party is a political party, or some political organization that can be controlled. There are probably hundreds of local organizations that call themselves Tea Party. There are millions of voters who sympathize with the Tea Party but do not belong to any organization.
So when someone says the Tea Party needs to do this or that, who do they mean, exactly? Is there some Tea Party policy manual somewhere that can be changed? If so, I haven't heard about it.
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I think it is a mistake to assume the Tea Party is a political party, or some political organization that can be controlled. There are probably hundreds of local organizations that call themselves Tea Party. There are millions of voters who sympathize with the Tea Party but do not belong to any organization.
So when someone says the Tea Party needs to do this or that, who do they mean, exactly? Is there some Tea Party policy manual somewhere that can be changed? If so, I haven't heard about it.
That's a good point, massadvj.
It also seems at times like Tea Party is being used as a synonym for conservative.
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I think it is a mistake to assume the Tea Party is a political party, or some political organization that can be controlled. There are probably hundreds of local organizations that call themselves Tea Party. There are millions of voters who sympathize with the Tea Party but do not belong to any organization.
So when someone says the Tea Party needs to do this or that, who do they mean, exactly? Is there some Tea Party policy manual somewhere that can be changed? If so, I haven't heard about it.
And it is precisely that broad set of definitions that allows the Tea Party to be demonized by the media and the left. Just the way it is, I suppose.
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That's a good point, massadvj.
It also seems at times like Tea Party is being used as a synonym for conservative.
Yes. And the advice to conservatives would be just as useless, since conservatives are individuals who are fully capable of thinking for themselves.
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I have always thought of the Tea Party as a loosely knit entity comprised of people that want to return our government to constitutional principles.
I've never tried to define it any further than that.
If I were to try and send a donation to "The Tea Party", I wouldn't even know where to start.
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"It also seems at times like Tea Party is being used as a synonym for conservative."
Based on what I've seen of many of today's so called conservatives, I would say that is a misnomer.