The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: HAPPY2BME on September 27, 2016, 06:32:43 am
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Ted Cruz
tedcruz@tedcruz.org
27 September, 2016
Dear My Fellow Conservative,
This election is unlike any other in our nation's history. Like many other voters, I have struggled to determine the right course
of action in this general election.
In Cleveland, I urged voters, "please, don't stay home in November. Stand, and speak, and vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket whom you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution."
After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump.
I've made this decision for two reasons. First, last year, I promised to support the Republican nominee. And I intend to keep my word.
Second, even though I have had areas of significant disagreement with our nominee, by any measure Hillary Clinton is wholly unacceptable - that's why I have always been #NeverHillary.
Six key policy differences inform my decision. First, and most important, the Supreme Court. For anyone concerned about the Bill of Rights - free speech, religious liberty, the Second Amendment - the Court hangs in the balance. I have spent my professional career fighting before the Court to defend the Constitution. We are only one justice away from losing our most basic rights, and the next president will appoint as many as four new justices. We know, without a doubt, that every Clinton appointee would be a left-wing ideologue. Trump, in contrast, has promised to appoint justices "in the mold of Scalia."
For some time, I have been seeking greater specificity on this issue, and today the Trump campaign provided that, releasing a very strong list of potential Supreme Court nominees - including Sen. Mike Lee, who would make an extraordinary justice - and making an explicit commitment to nominate only from that list. This commitment matters, and it provides a serious reason for voters to choose to support Trump.
Second, Obamacare. The failed healthcare law is hurting millions of Americans. If Republicans hold Congress, leadership has committed to passing legislation repealing Obamacare. Clinton, we know beyond a shadow of doubt, would veto that legislation. Trump has said he would sign it.
Third, energy. Clinton would continue the Obama administration's war on coal and relentless efforts to crush the oil and gas industry. Trump has said he will reduce regulations and allow the blossoming American energy renaissance to create millions of new high-paying jobs.
Fourth, immigration. Clinton would continue and even expand President Obama's lawless executive amnesty. Trump has promised that he would revoke those illegal executive orders.
Fifth, national security. Clinton would continue the Obama administration's willful blindness to radical Islamic terrorism. She would continue importing Middle Eastern refugees whom the FBI cannot vet to make sure they are not terrorists. Trump has promised to stop the deluge of unvetted refugees.
Sixth, Internet freedom. Clinton supports Obama's plan to hand over control of the Internet to an international community of stakeholders, including Russia, China, and Iran. Just this week, Trump came out strongly against that plan, and in support of free speech online.
These are six vital issues where the candidates' positions present a clear choice for the American people.
If Clinton wins, we know - with 100% certainty - that she would deliver on her left-wing promises, with devastating results for our country.
My conscience tells me I must do whatever I can to stop that.
We also have seen, over the past few weeks and months, a Trump campaign focusing more and more on freedom - including emphasizing school choice and the power of economic growth to lift African-Americans and Hispanics to prosperity.
Finally, after eight years of a lawless Obama administration, targeting and persecuting those disfavored by the administration, fidelity to the rule of law has never been more important.
The Supreme Court will be critical in preserving the rule of law. And, if the next administration fails to honor the Constitution and Bill of Rights, then I hope that Republicans and Democrats will stand united in protecting our fundamental liberties.
Our country is in crisis. Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to be president, and her policies would harm millions of Americans. And Donald Trump is the only thing standing in her way.
A year ago, I promised to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that commitment.
For liberty,
Ted Cruz
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O my God.
Not one word of hate against Trump anywhere from Ted today.
The people on this web site had better wake up.
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O my God.
Not one word of hate against Trump anywhere from Ted today.
The people on this web site had better wake up.
Because Ted is a sellout fraud. F Trump.
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I also think it is hilarious that Trump clowns who railed against Lyin' Ted now treat his words like gold. Guess they are all sellout frauds too.
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I also think it is hilarious that Trump clowns who railed against Lyin' Ted now treat his words like gold. Guess they are all sellout frauds too.
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the hate is strong in this one
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the hate is strong in this one
Tell that to your liberal cohorts that called him 'Lyin Ted' for months, said he was a Canadian, trashed his wife and father right along with Trump, then get back to me about how much the hate concerns you.
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Of the six points Cruz has listed, only energy seems to be the one thing to me that Trump will do differently, and perhaps immigration, but he has moved around a lot on that topic.
Putting Mike Lee on the Supreme Court list was nice, but it doesn't mean anything, since Lee, like Cruz, will not take the position.
Not sure much will change at all on the other 4 points.
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It's close, Hillary might actually be the conservative in the race. lol
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@HAPPY2BME
#NeverTrump, baby!
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@HAPPY2BME
The people on this web site had better wake up.
Oh, so you do need our votes, after all? No more "get out of the way or get run over", huh?
Well, you're out of luck. You should have nominated someone besides a stupid, incoherent, half-senile oaf of a gameshow host.
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"If she (Hillary) wins, I will ABSOLUTELY support her."
-- Donald Trump.
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Nikki Finke @NikkiFinke 6h6 hours ago
Washington Post's Bob Costa just reported "Trump may not participate in future debates" quoting Rudy Giuliani inside post-debate spin room.
LOLOLOLOL
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Nikki Finke @NikkiFinke 6h6 hours ago
Washington Post's Bob Costa just reported "Trump may not participate in future debates" quoting Rudy Giuliani inside post-debate spin room.
LOLOLOLOL
:silly: :silly: :silly:
His work here is done.
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@HAPPY2BME The Glen Beck right is about as loopy as it gets.
Losing a leader like Ted Cruz only reinforces their determination to be keepers of the...purity.
Thankfully there are no comets in the vicinity...
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I also think it is hilarious that Trump clowns who railed against Lyin' Ted now treat his words like gold. Guess they are all sellout frauds too.
You mean the 10% or so of Republicans like y'all?
If you'd rather have Hillary, I'll understand.
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@HAPPY2BME
Oh, so you do need our votes, after all? No more "get out of the way or get run over", huh?
Well, you're out of luck. You should have nominated someone besides a stupid, incoherent, half-senile oaf of a gameshow host.
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no. i do NOT need YOUR vote.
you had better wake up because you are about to be run over by a train
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You mean the 10% or so of Republicans like y'all?
If you'd rather have Hillary, I'll understand.
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these are neocons you are seeing here.
hillary would be just fine with them.
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no. i do NOT need YOUR vote.
you had better wake up because you are about to be run over by a train
@HAPPY2BME
Oh, so you're only being altruistic, then, lol.
Well, it looks like y'all should go ahead and bend over, because that train is headed right up your...
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You mean the 10% or so of Republicans like y'all?
If you'd rather have Hillary, I'll understand.
Clearly, you don't understand. We reject both Clinton and Trump. We recognize that they're just different sides of the same, unacceptable coin.
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you had better wake up because you are about to be run over by a train
Or get major payback.
Or get hunted down by dogs.
Or be 'peppered full of holes'.
Or be lined up and shot for 'treason'.
Or 'all of the above'.
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Our country is in crisis. Hillary Clinton is manifestly unfit to be president, and her policies would harm millions of Americans. And Donald Trump is the only thing standing in her way.
A year ago, I promised to support the Republican nominee, and I will honor that commitment.
Sorry Ted.
After last night's clownshow performance by the cretin you've endorsed (who made you look like an imbecile BTW), Trump confirmed to me that he will be WORSE in that office than Hillary.
I don't want such a thin-skinned-incoherent-juvenile-ranting-whiner whose only purpose it seems is to promote himself and his own interests, anywhere NEAR the political football.
Notwithstanding he admitted on live television he is a tax evader who doesn't pay federal taxes and has no problem hurting anyone when it is 'business'.
You chose to endorse a vindictive madman, who made Hillary look absolutely presidential in comparison.
You would have been better off being silent and voting for whomever you chose to vote for in secret and in quiet.
You simply sold out your reputation and integrity to a pathetic excuse and national embarrassment for a presidential contender.
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Or get major payback.
Or get hunted down by dogs.
Or be 'peppered full of holes'.
Or be lined up and shot for 'treason'.
Or 'all of the above'.
Or maybe the mother ship will appear and beam you all up. :laugh:
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@HAPPY2BME
Oh, so you do need our votes, after all? No more "get out of the way or get run over", huh?
Well, you're out of luck. You should have nominated someone besides a stupid, incoherent, half-senile oaf of a gameshow host.
This post summarizes everything you and your clique are about. Holding that vote over our head so we'll grovel. Many of you are here to carry Hillary's water, or are radical 3rd party voters that will have no measurable influence on the election.
You should have picked a candidate that had a chance of winning the nomination. What does it say about Ted Cruz's electability that he couldn't beat Donald Trump? What does it say about how in the minority you are that you have had no influence on the election so far? Ted Cruz is not standing in solidarity with you...he is standing with Donald Trump.
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You should have picked a candidate that had a chance of winning the nomination.
With Cruz they did...but now that he's voicing support for Trump they're rejecting his message.
That's cult like behavior.
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Clearly, you don't understand. We reject both Clinton and Trump. We recognize that they're just different sides of the same, unacceptable coin.
If you don't vote against her. you're with her.
Now who would be the only person who you could vote for to keep her out of the White house?
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With Cruz they did...but now that he's voicing support for Trump they're rejecting his message.
That's cult like behavior.
Never saw that one coming.... :whistle:
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Of the six points Cruz has listed, only energy seems to be the one thing to me that Trump will do differently, and perhaps immigration, but he has moved around a lot on that topic.
Putting Mike Lee on the Supreme Court list was nice, but it doesn't mean anything, since Lee, like Cruz, will not take the position.
Not sure much will change at all on the other 4 points.
Too bad you are not in possession of accurate information. But other than that itsy-bitsy flaw, good points!
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With Cruz they did...but now that he's voicing support for Trump they're rejecting his message.
That's cult like behavior.
You don't have "cult like" behavior because you are a cult. We are not the ones who follow someone know matter what they say or do. I supported Sen. Cruz because he was the most conservative person running. I do not follow him not matter what he does or says, like you tRumpkins. When he is wrong then I am free to disagree with him. Unlike your love for the Great Orange tRumpkin Pumpkin, I do not love Sen. Cruz.
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If you don't vote against her. you're with her.
Now who would be the only person who you could vote for to keep her out of the White house?
The people who will be responsible if the Beast wins are the approximately 40% of numbnuts who nominated the Donald. It is the Donald's and their job to convince the other 60% to vote for him. If they can't do that, they are responsible for the loss. Nobody owns someone elses vote, nor should they expect to.
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The people who will be responsible if the Beast wins are the approximately 40% of numbnuts who nominated the Donald. It is the Donald's and their job to convince the other 60% to vote for him. If they can't do that, they are responsible for the loss. Nobody owns someone elses vote, nor should they expect to.
So you have your own 'deplorables'
I rest my case.
BTW: some 90% of people you would normally vote with are backing Trump.
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So you have your own 'deplorables'
I rest my case.
BTW: some 90% of people you would normally vote with are backing Trump.
Yes, that maybe true. But you must respect this voter. He finds Donald Trump too icky to vote for. What? You want him to get verklempht about Hillary and Bill Clinton's election to POTUS? How inconsiderate of you!
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Yes, that maybe true. But you must respect this voter. He finds Donald Trump too icky to vote for. What? You want him to get verklempht about Hillary and Bill Clinton's election to POTUS? How inconsiderate of you!
I know you're talking off the cuff, but I seriously have no respect for anyone who won't help keep Hillary out of office. I don't care what your piddly ass problems are.
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If you don't vote against her. you're with her.
Now who would be the only person who you could vote for to keep her out of the White house?
But I am voting against her. For Castle. What, you think only a vote for Trump is a vote against Clinton? Do we really need to explain to you how elections work?
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But I am voting against her. For Castle. What, you think only a vote for Trump is a vote against Clinton? Do we really need to explain to you how elections work?
Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
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So you have your own 'deplorables'
I rest my case.
BTW: some 90% of people you would normally vote with are backing Trump.
You do realize that that statement makes absolutely no sense, right? The people we would normally vote with are doing no such thing. It's you lot that are backing your Dear Leader, not those of us intelligent enough to see through him.
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But I am voting against her. For Castle. What, you think only a vote for Trump is a vote against Clinton? Do we really need to explain to you how elections work?
It might be if there were enough people voting against Hillary by voting for Castle in some states....but there's not.
In reality, Trump is the sure fire vote against her. One with the most votes win.
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Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
You finally said something correct! We're not afraid to see what we see, and to call it what it is. It's you lot that refuse to see the plain reality of your horribly flawed candidate.
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In order to ensure Hillary is defeated, Donald Trump will need every vote possible.
But, y'all go ahead and indulge your self righteous selfs. After all, you're special – your country, not so much...ya' think?
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It might be if there were enough people voting against Hillary by voting for Castle in some states....but there's not.
In reality, Trump is the sure fie vote against her.
Hardly. Trump is so unpredictable that he'd be as likely to promote Clinton's positions as any others were he elected. If you have convinced yourself otherwise you're just denying reality.
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You finally said something correct! We're not afraid to see what we see, and to call it what it is. It's you lot that refuse to see the plain reality of your horribly flawed candidate.
Only one of two candidates will win. Sorry you've decided to be selfish about this.
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In order to ensure Hillary is defeated, Donald Trump will need every vote possible.
But, y'all go ahead and indulge your self righteous selfs. After all, you're special – your country, not so much...ya' think?
I thought you all said you didn't need our votes? You said it over and over. Well, congratulations, we took you at your word. You're not getting them.
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Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
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If Donald Trump doesn't win, Hillary does.
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Don't be afraid to see what you see.
Ronald Reagan
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Hardly. Trump is so unpredictable that he'd be as likely to promote Clinton's positions as any others were he elected. If you have convinced yourself otherwise you're just denying reality.
Enjoy your irrelevancy.
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Only one of two candidates will win. Sorry you've decided to be selfish about this.
Yup, I'm selfish. It's my vote, to cast as I will. You have no right to decide for me what I should do. Go vote for your Dear Leader and leave the rest of us alone.
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I thought you all said you didn't need our votes? You said it over and over. Well, congratulations, we took you at your word. You're not getting them.
Don't be an idiot. I never said that. Show me where I said that?
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I thought you all said you didn't need our votes? You said it over and over. Well, congratulations, we took you at your word. You're not getting them.
Source? Is one talking about Trump saying that or whom? At least, one could give us a clue.
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Enjoy your irrelevancy.
Hah. If Trump loses, you'll blame it entirely on us. That's a guarantee, and you know it's true.
But we're screwed presidentially no matter who wins this time. That's why I'm working to get a convention of states called, so we can limit the ability of any president (and the federal government generally) to harm us. Did you really think this presidential election was the end of all things?
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Is Lyin' Ted telling the truth now that he endorsed Trump?
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Some states are going red no matter what, some swing states, Trump is winning like Ohio and Iowa and Colorado.
Some states are turning into swing states, there is a close margin in Michigan, Pennsylvania and so on.
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The Constitution Party is great, principled, conservative; but I'm not sure if there best effort has ever gotten anything more than 3% let alone 1%.
By the way, Constitution Party candidate from 2012, Virgil Goode endorsed Trump some time ago.
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This post summarizes everything you and your clique are about. Holding that vote over our head so we'll grovel. Many of you are here to carry Hillary's water, or are radical 3rd party voters that will have no measurable influence on the election.
You should have picked a candidate that had a chance of winning the nomination. What does it say about Ted Cruz's electability that he couldn't beat Donald Trump? What does it say about how in the minority you are that you have had no influence on the election so far? Ted Cruz is not standing in solidarity with you...he is standing with Donald Trump.
It's for certain that Cruz couldn't compete with Trump re: all of the damned Democrats that crossed over and voted for Trump. They would NEVER have done that and voted for Cruz. So in a sense, that is correct. Bottom line, Trump had help from leftists re: winning the nomination away from Cruz and the other nominees. Trump was their (leftist Democrats) candidate of choice. And here we are. Screwed.
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Yup, I'm selfish. It's my vote, to cast as I will. You have no right to decide for me what I should do. Go vote for your Dear Leader and leave the rest of us alone.
If you want to be left alone, stop posting ideas for the Clinton campaign.
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Hah. If Trump loses, you'll blame it entirely on us. That's a guarantee, and you know it's true.
But we're screwed presidentially no matter who wins this time. That's why I'm working to get a convention of states called, so we can limit the ability of any president (and the federal government generally) to harm us. Did you really think this presidential election was the end of all things?
Because you bought into this defeatism.
Yes, at this point in time when [as Ted Cruz said] the SCOTUS hangs in balance, so do your precious principles. They will be made illegal should the court swing wildly lleft.
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It's for certain that Cruz couldn't compete with Trump re: all of the damned Democrats that crossed over and voted for Trump. They would NEVER have done that and voted for Cruz. So in a sense, that is correct. Bottom line, Trump had help from leftists re: winning the nomination away from Cruz and the other nominees. Trump was their (leftist Democrats) candidate of choice. And here we are. Screwed.
Could it be that those "damn Democrats" that wasted their vote on Trump could be future Republicans? Could it be they saw the light regarding a third Obama presidency?
Stranger things have happened. They happened for Reagan.
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If you don't vote against her. you're with her.
I'm voting for Castle. You say that I'm with 'her'.
Fine.
According to you 'I'm with her'.
What do you intend to do about it big guy?
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I'm voting for Castle. You say that I'm with 'her'.
Fine.
According to you 'I'm with her'.
What do you intend to do about it big guy?
Are you challenging me, Keyboard commander? :tongue2:
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Are you challenging me, Keyboard commander?
What are you going to do about the fact I am not voting for your prince wannabe keyboard warrior?
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What are you going to do about the fact I am not voting for your prince wannabe keyboard warrior?
Let you wallow in irrelevance. You won't be happy with either result.
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Let you wallow in irrelevance. You won't be happy with either result.
How magnanimous of you to let me wallow in 'irrelevance'!
Has as much impact as someone insisting my congregation and I must embrace homosexual marriage or be forced to wallow in irrelevance because everyone else in the country is on board the Love Train.
I'll take 'irrelevance' happily in the midst of such a crooked and perverse generation.`
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Or get major payback.
Or get hunted down by dogs.
Or be 'peppered full of holes'.
Or be lined up and shot for 'treason'.
Or 'all of the above'.
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After taking away your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd amendment rights (plus giving the internet up to UN control - THAT is exactly what Hillary (would) do for all you neocons.
In spite of your best efforts, both Hillary and you will FAIL.
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If you want to be left alone, stop posting ideas for the Clinton campaign.
Ah, the standard cry of the left and the populists--you disagree with me, you need to not be heard! Sorry son, not gonna happen.
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Because you bought into this defeatism.
Yes, at this point in time when [as Ted Cruz said] the SCOTUS hangs in balance, so do your precious principles. They will be made illegal should the court swing wildly lleft.
This is, of course, a load of crap.
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Could it be that those "damn Democrats" that wasted their vote on Trump could be future Republicans? Could it be they saw the light regarding a third Obama presidency?
Stranger things have happened. They happened for Reagan.
It's much more likely that they saw that Clinton couldn't lose the nomination and decided to make sure the least electable Republican they could imagine got the nomination. Any "Reagan republicans" have left the Democrat Party long since.
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Let you wallow in irrelevance. You won't be happy with either result.
So if we're "irrelevant," why are you Trumpenfaithful so insistent on denigrating anyone not paying proper homage to your Dear Leader? It's as though you consider us apostates, who have fallen away from your religion. We never subscribed to your form of worship, though.
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After taking away your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd amendment rights (plus giving the internet up to UN control - THAT is exactly what Hillary (would) do for all you neocons.
In spite of your best efforts, both Hillary and you will FAIL.
You know, your delusions are amazingly persistent. In the face of unequivocal evidence that pretty much everything you say are lies, you continue to chant your dogma unabated. It's almost Obamaite of you...
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After taking away your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd amendment rights (plus giving the internet up to UN control - THAT is exactly what Hillary (would) do for all you neocons.
Look, I know this concept is hard for people like you who rise and go to bed at the grant of government (which is why you want a king) - but NO ONE can take my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th Amendment inalienable rights away - unless I surrender them first - which aint gonna happen.
Not without a fight.
Or their agents with guns to our heads insists upon obedience by force - in which case - we have a full-blown despotic tyranny and at that point maybe a few folks will realize what time it is.
In spite of your best efforts, both Hillary and you will FAIL.
Well, I hope Hillary fails as well as Trump.
I mean, only someone who wants a lifelong NY liberal Democrat running as a Republican would be stupid enough to think the rest of us want Hillary to succeed in making big government bigger and thus America Great again.
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Navycando: #Never a NY Liberal
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Ah, the standard cry of the left and the populists--you disagree with me, you need to not be heard! Sorry son, not gonna happen.
Your anti-Trump rhetoric is the"standard cry of the Left" But the hate has blinded you to that fact.
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If you don't vote against her. you're with her
So in your line of thinking, if people decide to simply stay home on election night, then they support Clinton. You have the same mindset as BHO when, after the 2014 mid terms, he stated something to the effect that he has to represent the people who didn't vote assuming those that didn't vote in the 2014 election supported him and his policies. Now, most reasonable people who even have a faint understanding of the system understand that isn't the case
However, it sounds like you have very little understanding how an election works. So let me break it down for you. A vote for a candidate is a vote for that candidate. Not voting for a particular candidate is not voting for a particular candidate. If someone doesn't vote for anyone, then that means they don't support any of the candidates. See how simple that was?
Trump, nor anyone else, is not entitled to someone's vote
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So if we're "irrelevant," why are you Trumpenfaithful so insistent on denigrating anyone not paying proper homage to your Dear Leader? It's as though you consider us apostates, who have fallen away from your religion. We never subscribed to your form of worship, though.
I consider you unappeasable fringe voters at this point. But if one of you comes to your senses.....
If you had been here [and keeping up] you would know that my whole reason for my posting here is to stop the rhetoric that HELPs Hillary. In any way possible.
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So in your line of thinking, if people decide to simply stay home on election night, then they support Clinton. You have the same mindset as BHO when, after the 2014 mid terms, he stated something to the effect that he has to represent the people who didn't vote assuming those that didn't vote in the 2014 election supported him and his policies. Now, most reasonable people who even have a faint understanding of the system understand that isn't the case
However, it sounds like you have very little understanding how an election works. So let me break it down for you. A vote for a candidate is a vote for that candidate. Not voting for a particular candidate is not voting for a particular candidate. If someone doesn't vote for anyone, then that means they don't support any of the candidates. See how simple that was?
Trump, nor anyone else, is not entitled to someone's vote
No, I understand that every vote for Trump is a vote against Hillary. Staying home and voting for people who don't matter is for pansies.
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No, I understand that every vote for Trump is a vote against Hillary. Staying home and voting for people who don't matter is for pansies.
Staying home and not voting for either candidate because one doesn't care for their policies or just them personally is a personal choice just like one you made to vote for Trump.
"Vote your conscience" is good advice. If you conscience says vote Trump, fine. If it says vote third party, or just stay home, it's all a personal choice.
I, of course, will not be voting for Trump for the simple reason is his soft statism is not the fix this country needs. I get the appeal but as a Coolidge/Goldwater type conservative, he is just not my cup of tea. I was hoping, after securing the nomination, he would start campaigning on addressing our fiscal situation and limiting and shrinking the size and scope of the federal government which not only is he not doing but he is more than just a little hinting at growing it further. I don't hate him, and should he win, which is a good possibility he might, and starts to prove my skepticism wrong, I will become a happy and eager supporter of his in 4 years.
He is not entitled to my vote just because he is not Hillary Clinton. Also, his over sensitivity and need to respond to every insult and criticism is disturbing
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Your anti-Trump rhetoric is the"standard cry of the Left" But the hate has blinded you to that fact.
You say "hate," we say "clear vision." Comme ci comme ça.
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I consider you unappeasable fringe voters at this point. But if one of you comes to your senses.....
If you had been here [and keeping up] you would know that my whole reason for my posting here is to stop the rhetoric that HELPs Hillary. In any way possible.
We figured that out as soon as you started posting. You want to silence all opposition. You're exactly like the leftists.
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Hey, wolfcreek, you'll never get a concession out of #NeverTrump. They got their ego all tied up in this. Not to mention that they're better than us. They would never vote for "a New York liberal."
But they sure as heck are being useful tools for the DNC and Hillary's campaign to get her and Bill back into the White House.
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...you see, what's important here is that #NeverTrump can continue to prop up its overinflated image of itself.
And what of the fate of the country? Heck, that's secondary to #NeverTrumpers virtuous image of themselves as pristine and above politics, harrumph harrumph....
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...you see, what's important here is that #NeverTrump can continue to prop up its overinflated image of itself.
And what of the fate of the country? Heck, that's secondary to #NeverTrumpers virtuous image of itself as pristine, harrumph harrumph....
While you're whining and crying about #NeverTrump, new polls show that Clinton won the debate and with a lead in NC and Ohio.
Your boy needs help. You've got work to do.
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...you see, what's important here is that #NeverTrump can continue to prop up its overinflated image of itself.
And what of the fate of the country? Heck, that's secondary to #NeverTrumpers virtuous image of themselves as pristine and above politics, harrumph harrumph....
As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
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While you're whining and crying about #NeverTrump, new polls show that Clinton won the debate and with a lead in NC and Ohio.
Your boy needs help. You've got work to do.
Just as Trump cannot be bothered actually to prepare for a debate, preferring instead to rely on delusions of his own intelligence expressed as ad hoc bluster, so his supporters cannot do the actual work of persuading anyone, continuing instead to rely on insult and snark. The latter's effectiveness on this forum is as great as the former's was Monday night in front of 85 million people.
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We figured that out as soon as you started posting. You want to silence all opposition. You're exactly like the leftists.
You don't realize that by opposing him instead of just not supporting him, you're giving Hillary ammo? She's using your rhetoric in her ads.
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...you see, what's important here is that #NeverTrump can continue to prop up its overinflated image of itself.
And what of the fate of the country? Heck, that's secondary to #NeverTrumpers virtuous image of themselves as pristine and above politics, harrumph harrumph....
That's why they're sinking into irrelevance.
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You don't realize that by opposing him instead of just not supporting him, you're giving Hillary ammo? She's using your rhetoric in her ads.
You give us way too much credit. Hillary surrogates don't read this forum. Besides, a child could come up with viable arguments against voting for Trump.
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You give us way too much credit. Hillary surrogates don't read this forum. Besides, a child could come up with viable arguments against voting for Trump.
Yes Lindsey Graham you do get too much credit but Hillary is using Nevers in her ads. You know this.
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You don't realize that by opposing him instead of just not supporting him, you're giving Hillary ammo? She's using your rhetoric in her ads.
That's why they're sinking into irrelevance.
You do realize that both these statements can't be true, right? Actually, neither is true.
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Yes Lindsey Graham you do get too much credit but Hillary is using Nevers in her ads. You know this.
You really think you're persuading something to come to your side with these silly attacks, don't you?
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You really think you're persuading something to come to your side with these silly attacks, don't you?
No more than you might think you're persuading anybody to stop supporting Donald Trump with your egocentric temper tantrums.
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No more than you might think you're persuading anybody to stop supporting Donald Trump with your egocentric temper tantrums.
Silly fellow. We're not trying to persuade you to stop supporting Trump. That's a lost cause, as you clearly aren't interested in examining the facts. What we're doing is standing up for our beliefs in the face of withering attacks from you all for not falling in line behind you. And letting other observers see just how vile your attacks against anyone outside your cohort are.
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Yes Lindsey Graham you do get too much credit but Hillary is using Nevers in her ads. You know this.
So our numbers are not nothing, then.
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In reality....the useful tools for the DNC and for Hillary are the clueless "tools" that supported and voted for Donald J. Trump to be the GOP nominee. Well....the "tools" AND the Trumpocrats.
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No more than you might think you're persuading anybody to stop supporting Donald Trump with your egocentric temper tantrums.
Who's mad? Nobody here's mad except the Trumpkins. You have yet to come up with a persuasive argument for Trump.
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That's why they're sinking into irrelevance.
If you're worried about irrelevance, then you must be terrified at the polling crosstabs. Among the under 40s, hispanics, and the college educated, Trump is getting waxed like no Republican before him. The GOP embrace of ethno-national populism has rendered it a zombie political party.
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you'll never get a concession out of #NeverTrump. They got their ego all tied up in this. Not to mention that they're better than us. They would never vote for "a New York liberal."
But they sure as heck are being useful tools for the DNC and Hillary's campaign to get her and Bill back into the White House.
.....you see, what's important here is that #NeverTrump can continue to prop up its overinflated image of itself.
And what of the fate of the country? Heck, that's secondary to #NeverTrumpers virtuous image of themselves as pristine and above politics, harrumph harrumph....
I see the same spirit infesting the Trump militant that I have experienced from the militant Leftist Homosexual agenda pushers. Nearly the same sentiments expressed which go like this:
"You'll never get these intolerant homophobes to see the light. They got their self-righteousness tied up in their bigotry. They think they are better than us because they think their ancient book of myths gives them authority to sneer at love they don't approve of. They are just hateful tools of homophobes, racists and bigots.
The stupid hateful Religious Right has an overinflated image of itself because they think they are the majority. Nevermind the fact that the majority of the country not only approves of the gay lifestyle, but embraces it. They do not care about the rights of gays to marry, that is because of their virtuous self-righteous image of themselves as pristine and perfect."
It always drives the unprincipled and the hedonists insane when people refuse to capitulate to the behaviors they demand everyone embrace, often to the point of insults, threats, ridicule and intimidation.
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As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.
888high58888 NY liberal flapping yaps ... nothing more
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You really think you're persuading something to come to your side with these silly attacks, don't you?
I was hoping you would just get pissed and go away. :seeya:
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So our numbers are not nothing, then.
Doesn't matter how many of you there are. She's using anything she can get.
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If you're worried about irrelevance, then you must be terrified at the polling crosstabs. Among the under 40s, hispanics, and the college educated, Trump is getting waxed like no Republican before him. The GOP embrace of ethno-national populism has rendered it a zombie political party.
Source?
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I was hoping you would just get pissed and go away. :seeya:
Get pissed? At you? Nah, that would require taking what you say seriously.
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Get pissed? At you? Nah, that would require taking what you say seriously.
I'm lovable and cuddly. 888high58888