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Title: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: mystery-ak on March 28, 2020, 05:51:02 pm
Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
By Marty Johnson - 03/28/20 01:38 PM EDT

President Trump on Saturday said that he is considering putting in place an "enforceable quarantine" on travel for New York and parts of New Jersey and Connecticut.

“We’d like to see New York quarantined because it’s a hotspot — New York, New Jersey, maybe one or two other places, certain parts of Connecticut quarantined. I’m thinking about that right now," Trump told reporters before leaving the White House for Joint Base Andrews.

"We might not have to do it but there’s a possibility that sometime today we’ll do a quarantine — short term two weeks for New York, probably New Jersey and parts of Connecticut," he added.


The president was asked about the possibility again when he landed at Andrews before he boarded Air Force One, repeating that it would be for New York and parts of New Jersey and Connecticut.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/489991-trump-considering-enforceable-quarantine-for-new-york-and-parts-of
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 28, 2020, 07:39:23 pm
Trump floats quarantine for NY, NJ, CT


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASTGaWfLlsg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASTGaWfLlsg)
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 12:43:38 am
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Donald J. Trump
Verified accountï‚™ @realDonaldTrump 


On the recommendation of the White House CoronaVirus Task Force, and upon consultation with the Governor’s of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, I have asked the @CDCgov to issue a strong Travel Advisory, to be administered by the Governors, in consultation with the....

....Federal Government. A quarantine will not be necessary. Full details will be released by CDC tonight. Thank you!

5:19 PM - 28 Mar 2020

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244056559577071616
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Absalom on March 29, 2020, 02:30:03 am
Trump's behavior here confirms him as an uncontrollable scatterbrain incapable
of controlling his mouth.
No sooner has any idea, notion, thought penetrated the space between his ears
than he is running off at the mouth w/it before the world.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: LilLamb on March 29, 2020, 05:29:12 am
Trump's behavior here confirms him as an uncontrollable scatterbrain incapable
of controlling his mouth.
No sooner has any idea, notion, thought penetrated the space between his ears
than he is running off at the mouth w/it before the world.

I don’t think it has anything to do with being scatterbrained. I think he is just used to bouncing ideas off other people and it’s the way he processes solutions to problems.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Gefn on March 29, 2020, 10:55:50 am
True story.
Yesterday afternoon
I took my car out for a drive because I hadn’t been out of my apartment in 14 days and I was worried about the battery. I didn’t want it not to work. So I’m out, drove a mile, turned around in my supermarket parking lot. It was almost empty. Kid you not.

No one on the road, it looked like some kind of apocalypse movie. On the way back home, I’m seeing cars. A few but coming out of driveways, and all heading to the grocery store.

I get home and hear this on the news. And wouldn’t you know. People who were home and don’t need groceries are all of a sudden running out to the store to get groceries because, hey! I need more toilet paper

Strange days indeed. We’ll have some amazing stories to tell our children and grandchildren when this is over. When I was a child, all the kids would ask the grownups “where were you when JFK was shot”. Now they’ll ask “where were you when coronavirus happened”
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 29, 2020, 02:42:25 pm
Strange days indeed. We’ll have some amazing stories to tell our children and grandchildren when this is over. When I was a child, all the kids would ask the grownups “where were you when JFK was shot”. Now they’ll ask “where were you when coronavirus happened”

Where was I?  I was sitting in my beanbag chair eating Cheetos while petting kitties.  I saved the world!  That and I've been taping time-lapse videos of out excellent sunsets at the Castle and posting a few on Bookface.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 04:53:17 pm
Trump's behavior here confirms him as an uncontrollable scatterbrain incapable of controlling his mouth.  No sooner has any idea, notion, thought penetrated the space between his ears than he is running off at the mouth w/it before the world.

 :bs: 

If you had taken a moment to view the short video I posted above you would have known the President was asked specifically about this by a "reporter".  His answer was he'd have a decision later in the day --- after consultation with the governors and coronavirus task force.

The President did exactly as he said he would do,.. providing his decision in the tweet I also posted above.

The only scatterbrain is the one who, yet again, is incapable of controlling chronic TDS.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Absalom on March 29, 2020, 05:45:24 pm
I don’t think it has anything to do with being scatterbrained. I think he is just used to bouncing ideas off other people and it’s the way he processes solutions to problems.
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Respectfully.
In order for learning to generate success, a price must be paid; namely the discipline of reflection.
After this quarantine lock-down notion entered his head, Trump just walked over to the microphones and told the world. Then after the uproar, the Virus Task Force shunned the idea.
Instead of reflecting, he simply reacts; a trait his Mother alluded to more than 60 years ago in the Family biography.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Absalom on March 29, 2020, 06:00:28 pm
:bs: 
If you had taken a moment to view the short video I posted above you would have known the President was asked specifically about this by a "reporter".  His answer was he'd have a decision later in the day --- after consultation with the governors and coronavirus task force.
The President did exactly as he said he would do,.. providing his decision in the tweet I also posted above.
The only scatterbrain is the one who, yet again, is incapable of controlling chronic TDS.
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Trump told the media about the lock-down while awaiting the launch of the "Comfort" in Virginia.
Later the Task Force shunned the notion following the uproar.


Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 06:01:52 pm
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In order for learning to generate success, a price must be paid; namely the discipline of reflection.  After this quarantine lock-down notion entered his head, Trump just walked over to the microphones and told the world. Then after the uproar, the Virus Task Force shunned the idea.  Instead of reflecting, he simply reacts; a trait his Mother alluded to more than 60 years ago in the Family biography.


 :bs: 

If you had taken a moment to view the short video I posted above you would have known the President was asked specifically about this by a "reporter".  His answer was he'd have a decision later in the day --- after consultation with the governors and coronavirus task force.

The President did exactly as he said he would do,.. providing his decision in the tweet I also posted above.

The only one lacking "discipline" is the one who, yet again, is incapable of controlling chronic TDS @Absalom
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 06:03:18 pm
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Trump told the media about the lock-down while awaiting the launch of the "Comfort" in Virginia.
Later the Task Force shunned the notion following the uproar.

TDS is chronic in you ... and it's affecting your ability to think.

Get some help.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 06:10:10 pm
Shoulda been done decades ago. America would be a better place today if it had.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 06:12:46 pm
Trump's behavior here confirms him as an uncontrollable scatterbrain incapable
of controlling his mouth.
No sooner has any idea, notion, thought penetrated the space between his ears
than he is running off at the mouth w/it before the world.

Or.... perhaps he is just doing what he enjoys (and what his supporters enjoy).

Trolling the leftist idiots.     :rolling:
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 06:16:40 pm
Where was I?  I was sitting in my beanbag chair eating Cheetos while petting kitties.  I saved the world!  That and I've been taping time-lapse videos of out excellent sunsets at the Castle and posting a few on Bookface.

And.... I was working in my garden, planting tomatoes and peppers, while drinking an iced cold Corona with lime.... and thanking God for the early spring and another beautiful day.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Gefn on March 29, 2020, 06:18:16 pm
Ugh! Today’s numbers just posted from NY, NYC and NJ

 8888crybaby
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Absalom on March 29, 2020, 07:49:21 pm
Or.... perhaps he is just doing what he enjoys (and what his supporters enjoy).
Trolling the leftist idiots.     :rolling:
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Even if unintended that is a fair comment.
However Trump is now POTUS and not blathering on the Apprentice.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 07:52:13 pm
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Even if unintended that is a fair comment.
However Trump is now POTUS and not blathering on the Apprentice.

No.  If he was still on the Apprentice, instead of trolling the idiot left, the idiot left would still be applauding him.  Personally... I like him better 'this' way.   
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 08:01:16 pm
Or.... perhaps he is just doing what he enjoys (and what his supporters enjoy).

Trolling the leftist idiots.     :rolling:

The country needs a leader.

Not a troll.

No matter how much fun it is for his fan base, it is bad for everyone else.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 08:09:58 pm
The country needs a leader.

Not a troll.

No matter how much fun it is for his fan base, it is bad for everyone else.

Buzz kill!

But seriously.....

would you rather it was Gropy Joe or Bernie "leading" the nation?   I sure as hell wouldn't. 
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 08:44:44 pm
Buzz kill!

But seriously.....

would you rather it was Gropy Joe or Bernie "leading" the nation?   I sure as hell wouldn't.

That has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, and you know it.

WE have a President.  WE need a President.  WE don't need someone who gets kicks out of trolling.

WE need a LEADER, not someone who loves controversy.  WE need clarity.  WE need leadership, not only in what is done but what is SAID.

The silliness about preferring a leftist is just that........... nonsense.


(Why can't his fan club admit ANY faults on his part? Why must you defend everything he does and destroy your own credibility?  What he is DOING is great.  What he is SAYING is not helping.  Can you get that??)
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 08:47:57 pm
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, and you know it.

WE have a President.  WE need a President.  WE don't need someone who gets kicks out of trolling.

WE need a LEADER, not someone who loves controversy.  WE need clarity.  WE need leadership, not only in what is done but what is SAID.

The silliness about preferring a leftist is just that........... nonsense.


(Why can't his fan club admit ANY faults on his part? Why must you defend everything he does and destroy your own credibility?  What he is DOING is great.  What he is SAYING is not helping.  Can you get that??)

Well considering how bad things could be.... I think he (and we) are doing pretty damned well....

again, all things considered.   But that's just my personal opinion.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 09:07:46 pm
The country needs a leader.  Not a troll.  No matter how much fun it is for his fan base, it is bad for everyone else.

Talk about trolling   :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 09:42:57 pm
Well considering how bad things could be.... I think he (and we) are doing pretty damned well....

again, all things considered.   But that's just my personal opinion.

I agree.  That's why he needs to stop the needless controversy.

Just FYI, in Gov. DeWine's presser today, he said he called the President and got a call back because the FDA has delayed approving life saving sterilization of N-95 masks.  Batelle Research Lab in Columbus has developed a system to sanitize 80,000 masks A DAY so that they can be reused by first responders.  There is already one ready to go on Long Island, one in Ohio, one on the way to NYC, and plans to send them to DC and Seattle.  They just need the FDA approval for all 80,000, and the bureaucracy is in the way.

The Governor said that President Trump said, "Let's get on it," and promised approval TODAY.  DeWine said "He gets it."

I have not disapproved of what Trump has done.  I only disapprove of what he keeps saying.

I hope you fans can get the difference here.

He needs to talk less and just keep doing what he's doing to get us through this.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Fishrrman on March 29, 2020, 09:56:18 pm
My sister has a "travel letter" given to her by her employer (supermarket) to present in case she is stopped driving to work. This is in SW CT.

Her friend works for Kimberly-Clark (making toilet paper and paper towels).
He has a travel letter from them, too.

The virus is still on the upswing here.
Perhaps the state's governor (the idiot Ned Lamont) has told them that a quarantine remains on the table...?
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: libertybele on March 29, 2020, 10:03:54 pm
I agree.  That's why he needs to stop the needless controversy.

Just FYI, in Gov. DeWine's presser today, he said he called the President and got a call back because the FDA has delayed approving life saving sterilization of N-95 masks.  Batelle Research Lab in Columbus has developed a system to sanitize 80,000 masks A DAY so that they can be reused by first responders.  There is already one ready to go on Long Island, one in Ohio, one on the way to NYC, and plans to send them to DC and Seattle.  They just need the FDA approval for all 80,000, and the bureaucracy is in the way.

The Governor said that President Trump said, "Let's get on it," and promised approval TODAY.  DeWine said "He gets it."

I have not disapproved of what Trump has done.  I only disapprove of what he keeps saying.

I hope you fans can get the difference here.

He needs to talk less and just keep doing what he's doing to get us through this.

Excellent news!

I think people need to remember that President Trump is showing extreme leadership, getting things done without much hesitation and many times thinking outside the box to save lives.  Sure, presidents have had to deal with various natural disasters, Pearl Harbor and 9-11, but no president has had to deal with a pandemic.  I'm so thankful that Hillary lost.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 29, 2020, 10:12:21 pm
(Why can't his fan club admit ANY faults on his part? Why must you defend everything he does and destroy your own credibility?  What he is DOING is great.  What he is SAYING is not helping.  Can you get that??)

Defending Trump from unfair attacks is not refusing to admit ANY faults.  He has plenty, and his handling of this pandemic thing is not one of them.  Let's keep focus on that, on the Coronavirus Threads.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 29, 2020, 10:13:52 pm
Excellent news!

I think people need to remember that President Trump is showing extreme leadership, getting things done without much hesitation and many times thinking outside the box to save lives.  Sure, presidents have had to deal with various natural disasters, Pearl Harbor and 9-11, but no president has had to deal with a pandemic.  I'm so thankful that Hillary lost.

He's having to deal with Bullshit like this morning's Pelosi interview.  He defends himself, unlike other Republican Presidents.  It's TFB if he doesn't say the words we demand.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Absalom on March 29, 2020, 10:30:23 pm
No.  If he was still on the Apprentice, instead of trolling the idiot left, the idiot left would still be applauding him.  Personally... I like him better 'this' way.
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Fair enough.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 11:13:44 pm
Defending Trump from unfair attacks is not refusing to admit ANY faults.  He has plenty, and his handling of this pandemic thing is not one of them.  Let's keep focus on that, on the Coronavirus Threads.

Well then, you’re clearly not one of the folks who cheers anything and everything he does, are you?

IOW, you’re not one of the people I’m referring to.

They DO exist.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 11:15:40 pm
Excellent news!

I think people need to remember that President Trump is showing extreme leadership, getting things done without much hesitation and many times thinking outside the box to save lives.  Sure, presidents have had to deal with various natural disasters, Pearl Harbor and 9-11, but no president has had to deal with a pandemic.  I'm so thankful that Hillary lost.

Yea.... if the FDA gets moving and does its job, our first responders will be safer tomorrow!
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 11:15:46 pm
He's having to deal with Bullshit like this morning's Pelosi interview.  He defends himself, unlike other Republican Presidents.  It's TFB if he doesn't say the words we demand.

 888high58888
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: XenaLee on March 29, 2020, 11:16:59 pm
Well then, you’re clearly not one of the folks who cheers anything and everything he does, are you?

IOW, you’re not one of the people I’m referring to.

They DO exist.

I'm not one either.   Yet somehow, some way... I keep getting cracks to the contrary.     :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 29, 2020, 11:17:33 pm
He's having to deal with Bullshit like this morning's Pelosi interview.  He defends himself, unlike other Republican Presidents.  It's TFB if he doesn't say the words we demand.

Not to the rest of the American people.

He needs to do his job and stop making stupid comments.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 11:29:59 pm
Not to the rest of the American people. He needs to do his job and stop making stupid comments.

There's no way you could have watched the President's nearly two hour presser that just ended and still post this gibberish.

The President needs neither your advice nor your snark.  So, please, give it a rest.

Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 11:32:38 pm
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Hands down best speech/press conference our @POTUS has ever had. it was presidential... it was human... it was what we Americans needed to hear. He kept it real he went with the Doctors not party not economy. Not even his own beliefs. Thank you Mr President. #nuffsaid— Tyrus (@PlanetTyrus) March 29, 2020
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 29, 2020, 11:33:17 pm
Not to the rest of the American people.

He needs to do his job and stop making stupid comments.

I'd say he's doing both.  Today's presser was a good example of the daily BS.  The press is emboldened by Pelosi's declaration that Trump is fiddling while Rome burns.  Let's not harbor any illusions the press is not an arm of the Democrat Party, they obviously took her cue today.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 30, 2020, 12:10:01 am
That has absolutely NOTHING to do with it, and you know it.

WE have a President.  WE need a President.  WE don't need someone who gets kicks out of trolling.

WE need a LEADER, not someone who loves controversy.  WE need clarity.  WE need leadership, not only in what is done but what is SAID.

The silliness about preferring a leftist is just that........... nonsense.


(Why can't his fan club admit ANY faults on his part? Why must you defend everything he does and destroy your own credibility?  What he is DOING is great.  What he is SAYING is not helping.  Can you get that??)
Fan club or no: Being a leader invites controversy, which will follow anyone who makes decisions.

Considering much of the controversy is the result of MSM and Demoncrat Party coordinated attacks aimed at reducing the ability of the Administration to get anything accomplished, even going to the lengths of Impeachment.
I really don't see how he could avoid controversy, and sometimes the best way to deal with it is to meet it head-on, at speed. That is his tactic, and he often keeps them tied up in knots with it.

Anyone with a pair of brain cells operating on the same frequency can see what he is doing in terms of his accomplishments. I watch what he does, not what he says.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 12:57:57 am
I'd say he's doing both.  Today's presser was a good example of the daily BS.  The press is emboldened by Pelosi's declaration that Trump is fiddling while Rome burns.  Let's not harbor any illusions the press is not an arm of the Democrat Party, they obviously took her cue today.

Trying to get you to understand that I am not talking about the media.

We all know who they are.

That doesn't mean he doesn't have the responsibility to keep his ego out of this and just do his job,

But I can see that I'm hitting a brick wall here, so I'll just agree with you.

It doesn't matter what he says.  He can say whatever he wants, and everything is just peachy.

No criticism allowed..... *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 02:41:38 am
Trying to get you to understand that I am not talking about the media.

We all know who they are.

That doesn't mean he doesn't have the responsibility to keep his ego out of this and just do his job,

But I can see that I'm hitting a brick wall here, so I'll just agree with you.

It doesn't matter what he says.  He can say whatever he wants, and everything is just peachy.

No criticism allowed..... *****rollingeyes*****

Well, it's a bit of a swing and a miss, but OK. :shrug:
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 02:46:42 am
Well, it's a bit of a swing and a miss, but OK. :shrug:

Let me put it this way......

Do you and Xena want him to be reelected or not?  Assuming that you DO, then you and the rest of his fans should want him to behave in a way that gives the American people confidence in him.

You should NOT want him "trolling the left" because you like it and think it's cute.  You should want him to control his childish instincts to lash out and just BE President.

But you won't because you personally don't care what he says or how he says it. (You've said as much right here).

And clearly don't care if the average American voter DOES care how he behaves.

So, fan club, what is it?  Reelection, or continuing to be a childish troll?

Your vote.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 02:51:04 am
Let me put it this way......

Do you and Xena want him to be reelected or not?  Assuming that you DO, then you and the rest of his fans should want him to behave in a way that gives the American people confidence in him.

You should NOT want him "trolling the left" because you like it and think it's cute.  You should want him to control his childish instincts to lash out and just BE President.

But you won't because you personally don't care what he says or how he says it. (You've said as much right here).

And clearly don't care if the average American voter DOES care how he behaves.

So, fan club, what is it?  Reelection, or continuing to be a childish troll?

Your vote.

I don't think it's up to us.  Pointless to fret about it.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 02:58:45 am
I don't think it's up to us.  Pointless to fret about it.

I'm not fretting.

I just would like for some of you to realize that the things that make you go "Rah!  Rah!" make most adults say "Grow up."

If you say you want him reelected, maybe you should all write fan letters and tell him to control his baser instincts and act like he's actually the President.

Many people are seeing him daily now, and not just through the hateful eyes of the media.  Now is the time for him to man up and let the pettiness go...... even if it warms the cockles of your heart when he trolls the left.

I know I'm talking about him a lot, but Gov. DeWine deals with the leftist media every day, and puts down the anti-Trump badgering extremely well.   It CAN be done.

Trump needs to give it a try.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: dfwgator on March 30, 2020, 03:59:56 am

We all know who they are.
 

But for maybe the first time ever, thanks to Trump, the majority of American people are getting to "know who they are."
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 04:25:59 am
But for maybe the first time ever, thanks to Trump, the majority of American people are getting to "know who they are."

I think that's a good point.  Would a quieter man have gotten people to notice?
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 12:35:37 pm
But for maybe the first time ever, thanks to Trump, the majority of American people are getting to "know who they are."

Whether or not that’s true (it might be), he doesn’t need to do it now.

This is a time of crisis and when he’s addressing the American people about it, he needs to keep the personal stuff out of it.

Just act like an adult.

If ever there was a time for him to grow up, this is it.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 02:37:32 pm
Whether or not that’s true (it might be), he doesn’t need to do it now.

This is a time of crisis and when he’s addressing the American people about it, he needs to keep the personal stuff out of it.

Just act like an adult.

If ever there was a time for him to grow up, this is it.

But would that be observable?  Would an anti-Trump person ever admit he's behaving in an "adult manner?"  Would that goalpost never move for partisan purposes?  And who defines "adult," anyway....

(For the record, I don't think you are an "anti-Trump."  I am not a "cheerleader.")
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 02:51:11 pm
But would that be observable?  Would an anti-Trump person ever admit he's behaving in an "adult manner?"  Would that goalpost never move for partisan purposes?  And who defines "adult," anyway....

(For the record, I don't think you are an "anti-Trump."  I am not a "cheerleader.")

A HUGE number of people whom you are forgetting about is the majority of Americans who are neither Trump haters nor cheerleaders.

In times of crisis, Americans respond to leadership.  All I am saying (and what you and others are missing) is that Trump needs to not only DO what protects America (which I believe he is doing), but act like an adult.

If you love the guy, pray that he grows up.  The majority of Americans aren't on the extremes.  They want to have confidence in their President.  What you and his other fans love is offensive to most people.  If you want him to WIN in November, pray that he starts to understand his childish behavior.  NO one is beyond learning.  Not even Trump.


I guess I'm talking to a brick wall here.  :banging:

So I've said all I'm going to about this on this thread.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: sneakypete on March 30, 2020, 02:55:46 pm
  NO one is beyond learning.  Not even Trump.
 

@musiclady

THERE is some irony you can cut with a chainsaw!

And,of course,you left out people with closed minds.

I wonder why?

Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 02:58:22 pm
A HUGE number of people whom you are forgetting about is the majority of Americans who are neither Trump haters nor cheerleaders.

I am not forgetting. 

But such is the nature of the Trump Wars.
  No matter what is said, or how much thought is put into it, people tend to cubby-hole others into "camps" that can be bundled together, so the sins of the extreme can be laid at anybody's doorstep.  To somebody who "loves" the President, any criticism is the result of "never-Trumpism."    To somebody who "hates" him, any praise of the President is seen as being a mindless cheerleader.

And I, like you, am in the vast region where Trump is neither "loved" nor "hated."  He's just a politician. 
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 03:00:34 pm
I am not forgetting. 

But such is the nature of the Trump Wars.
  No matter what is said, or how much thought is put into it, people tend to cubby-hole others into "camps" that can be bundled together, so the sins of the extreme can be laid at anybody's doorstep.  To somebody who "loves" the President, any criticism is the result of "never-Trumpism."    To somebody who "hates" him, any praise of the President is seen as being a mindless cheerleader.

And I, like you, am in the vast region where Trump is neither "loved" nor "hated."  He's just a politician.

But now he is our leader in time of an extreme health crisis....... and that transcends "just a politician."........... or it should.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 03:21:40 pm
But now he is our leader in time of an extreme health crisis....... and that transcends "just a politician."........... or it should.

It should, but does it?  Did Pelosi transcend politics yesterday when she said Trump is fiddling while the country burns?  Did Congressman Clyburn, when he declared the Corona virus is a golden opportunity to cram socialism down our throats?

(Sorry, I'm full of questions this morning.  I blame the lack of caffeine.)
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: musiclady on March 30, 2020, 03:30:45 pm
It should, but does it?  Did Pelosi transcend politics yesterday when she said Trump is fiddling while the country burns?  Did Congressman Clyburn, when he declared the Corona virus is a golden opportunity to cram socialism down our throats?

(Sorry, I'm full of questions this morning.  I blame the lack of caffeine.)

Old argument meeting brick wall......

Just because THEY don’t know how decent people behave doesn’t mean WE have to behave badly.

We cannot remove the standard of character just because they have.

Leadership......... raise the standards, don’t sink to the lowest common denominator.

Done here...... talk amongst yourself.  happy77
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 03:36:08 pm
Old argument meeting brick wall......

Just because THEY don’t know how decent people behave doesn’t mean WE have to behave badly.

We cannot remove the standard of character just because they have.

Leadership......... raise the standards, don’t sink to the lowest common denominator.

Done here...... talk amongst yourself.  happy77

I'm surprised you answered my post.  The Trump Lovers are talking amongst themselves already.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 30, 2020, 03:40:08 pm
But would that be observable?  Would an anti-Trump person ever admit he's behaving in an "adult manner?"  Would that goalpost never move for partisan purposes?

I see a President with access to the best information, and the best advice, recognizing that he can't fix this by himself.  I think he thinks he actually needs the support of experts, Congress, Governors, the media, and people who did not vote for him.  I see him praise these people and ask for their further support daily.  I have TDS, but I'm also a huge coward that doesn't want to die yet ( and of course I worry about family and friends...like you, but mostly me ) so when the daily increase in deaths begins to fall, I might spend more time grading the President on his performance solving this crisis, but until then I see much stronger President than ever before.  I support his 15 day guideline, his assertion that our top priority is saving lives, his mostly consistent message of We Are All In This Together, and even this huge stimulus package.

The President has said on many occasions and in many ways that we want to solve this with "the fewest lives lost," because "we have the best people" and we will need them when this crisis is over and we want to recover the fastest.  Unfortunately, mean ol' Dr Fauci says "the virus will decide the timeline."  I know our President wants a healthy and wealthy country to be his legacy.  I don't know if he is fit for the task, but we can't change quarterbacks today, and the good news is, as our President has reminded us in every press conference he recognizes "We have the best people."  As often as I complain about his speeches, conferences, and tweets I actually think President Trump has displayed more leadership in the last 2 weeks than his first 3 years.  He has had good days and great days since he declared a National Emergency.  His message has been remarkably consistent "follow my guideline for 15 days."  In a few days we will have an updated guideline and it will most assuredly address medical, and fiscal issues.

Probably not observable by anti-Once-Lers, but there is some praise in these two recent posts.  Much more going back to the announcement of a National Emergency.
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 03:53:08 pm

Probably not observable by anti-Once-Lers, but there is some praise in these two recent posts.  Much more going back to the announcement of a National Emergency.

I, for one, welcome the praise for the President on this subject.  I was not thinking of you when I penned the post you quoted.  I was thinking of the partisan Rats, many of whom populate the field of "journalism."

 :patriot:
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 30, 2020, 04:27:08 pm
I, for one, welcome the praise for the President on this subject.  I was not thinking of you when I penned the post you quoted.  I was thinking of the partisan Rats, many of whom populate the field of "journalism."

 :patriot:

There are some out there @Cyber Liberty , however President Trump has also pointed out, in most of his conferences, that the media coverage has been good in general.  At least I am hearing him say it. 

After 3 years of training, let-downs, and failures confirmed and reconfirmed in my mind by President Trump it is hard to not have that color my first impressions of new facts.  I suspect the same is true for the media about President Trump, and President Trump about the media.

While any time wasted fighting among ourselves is counter-productive it does appear to me that everyone is more understanding of the grudges we hold as humans today.  Last night the President said ...

There’s great spirit.  I’ll tell you what — yeah, I’d love to have them do it.  Let them waive those co-pays.  There’s a great spirit in this country right now.

I mean, I know insurance companies better than anybody.  They just don’t do that.  But now there’s a spirit like I have not seen.  I have never seen anything like it.

I mean, even the media is much more fair.  I wouldn’t say all of it, but that’s okay.  They should be fair because they should want this to end.  This is — this is about death.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-14/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-14/)
Title: Re: Trump considering quarantine for New York and parts of New Jersey, Connecticut
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 30, 2020, 04:33:23 pm
There are some out there @Cyber Liberty , however President Trump has also pointed out, in most of his conferences, that the media coverage has been good in general.  At least I am hearing him say it. 

After 3 years of training, let-downs, and failures confirmed and reconfirmed in my mind by President Trump it is hard to not have that color my first impressions of new facts.  I suspect the same is true for the media about President Trump, and President Trump about the media.

While any time wasted fighting among ourselves is counter-productive it does appear to me that everyone is more understanding of the grudges we hold as humans today.  Last night the President said ...

There’s great spirit.  I’ll tell you what — yeah, I’d love to have them do it.  Let them waive those co-pays.  There’s a great spirit in this country right now.

I mean, I know insurance companies better than anybody.  They just don’t do that.  But now there’s a spirit like I have not seen.  I have never seen anything like it.

I mean, even the media is much more fair.  I wouldn’t say all of it, but that’s okay.  They should be fair because they should want this to end.  This is — this is about death.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-14/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-14/)

And there are also partisans in the press, as witnessed by the daily updates.  This story seems to be outing them.