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Title: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: mystery-ak on March 26, 2020, 04:13:51 pm
Justin Caruso
Contributor
March 26, 2020 11:15 AM ET


Republican and Democratic senators unanimously voted to pass a coronavirus relief bill late Wednesday that gives $350,000,000 to assist refugees and migrants.

Earlier this week, it was revealed that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s relief package would include $300,000,000 for refugee assistance.

The new bill, approved by the Senate and now headed to the House, includes an additional $50 million on top of Pelosi’s initial $300 million for refugees.

On page 817 of the 880-page bill, the measure calls for “an additional amount for ‘Migration and Refugee Assistance’, $350,000,000, to remain available until expended, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus.”

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https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/26/republicans-pelosi-coronavirus-bill-refugees-migrants/
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 26, 2020, 04:16:49 pm
Justin Caruso
Contributor
March 26, 2020 11:15 AM ET


Republican and Democratic senators unanimously voted to pass a coronavirus relief bill late Wednesday that gives $350,000,000 to assist refugees and migrants.

Earlier this week, it was revealed that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s relief package would include $300,000,000 for refugee assistance.

The new bill, approved by the Senate and now headed to the House, includes an additional $50 million on top of Pelosi’s initial $300 million for refugees.

On page 817 of the 880-page bill, the measure calls for “an additional amount for ‘Migration and Refugee Assistance’, $350,000,000, to remain available until expended, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus.”

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https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/26/republicans-pelosi-coronavirus-bill-refugees-migrants/

Great. That money can be used to bring more judges and prosecutors to the Border courts, hire more Border Patrol and ICE officers to "help" process these folks and pay for their plane ride home. Further, building up the border wall is on the table as well, as it is an "infrastructure" build that helps move people to the friendly processing centers at the legal crossing points. Sounds alright.

"Assistance" is a very vague term and its the Executive branch that implements the spending of this money...the President can apply assistance in ways that get these folks back to their original homes in their original countries...and, of course, give them reasonable medical care along the way.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: libertybele on March 26, 2020, 04:24:34 pm
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 26, 2020, 04:39:50 pm
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.

Who said anything about granting asylum...that money doesn't go "to refugees", it goes to the system managing them. It can, and I hope will, be used to process them OUT...not in.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 26, 2020, 04:54:39 pm
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.

I don't think the President is Constitutionally obligated to sign it.  The GOP republicans voted unanimously for it.  Perhaps it is time to let the party pass away if it can't develop an immunity to it's reckless spending.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 26, 2020, 06:31:33 pm
I don't think the President is Constitutionally obligated to sign it.  The GOP republicans voted unanimously for it.  Perhaps it is time to let the party pass away if it can't develop an immunity to it's reckless spending.

That's really not an option. If he doesn't sign it, none of the stimulus gets approved and the Dems sweep into power in November with wide majorities in both Houses of Congress and the Presidency. SOME may want that on this board, but I'd venture that most do not. The real answer is, get stronger GOP majorities in both Houses and we can cut out a lot more of the garbage that Dems leverage in because they control the House.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: 240B on March 26, 2020, 06:53:52 pm
There is no country on Earth, including Mexico itself, that would ever do this.
Something about this doesn't seem right. I mean in the reporting of it.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: DCPatriot on March 26, 2020, 06:59:01 pm
Come on, guyz....think!

If the POTUS vetoes the Bill because of the aforementioned, the DEMS will, As Pres. Lyndon Johnson once said upon signing the Civil Rights Act in 1964; "we'll have those bleeps voting for us for the next 200 years".
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: roamer_1 on March 26, 2020, 07:05:30 pm
350m is the cave?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 26, 2020, 08:13:57 pm
There is no country on Earth, including Mexico itself, that would ever do this.
Something about this doesn't seem right. I mean in the reporting of it.

The other countries are not borrowing money to give it to PBS either.

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1243246885638414337
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Nikki Haley @NikkiHaley
These are the items included in the stimulus bill:
$75 mill for public television/radio
$25 mil for the Kennedy Center
$75 mil for the Natl Endowment for the Arts
$75 mill for the Natl Endowment for the Humanities

How many more people could have been helped with this money?
1:42 PM · Mar 26, 2020,

Passed unanimously in the Senate.  That's what makes America great. 999999999999 
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 26, 2020, 08:17:36 pm
The other countries are not borrowing money to give it to PBS either.

https://twitter.com/NikkiHaley/status/1243246885638414337
Passed unanimously in the Senate.  That's what makes America great. 999999999999

Absolutely disgusting.  After the smoke clears on this crisis, there needs to be a taxpayer revolt.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: bilo on March 26, 2020, 08:41:16 pm
It seems to me the big items aren't being reported.

What happened with online registration and mail in voting?

What happened with unionization of businesses that accept loans/grants?

I don't like all the money being thrown around, but that won't fundamentally change the USA.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 26, 2020, 09:41:14 pm
It seems to me the big items aren't being reported.

What happened with online registration and mail in voting?

What happened with unionization of businesses that accept loans/grants?

I don't like all the money being thrown around, but that won't fundamentally change the USA.

Uni-Party don't talk about that stuff until the law is signed.  Soon.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 26, 2020, 10:01:00 pm
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.

@libertybele

Many of them will vote in this election. Most probably won't even know "they" voted.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 02:49:15 am
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.

We shouldn't be allowing any migration right now.  The U.S. just topped all other countries for confirmed cases of Coronavirus.  This is a disgrace, and I bet Trump gladly signs this piece of crap.  And our Border Agents have reported that they feel like they have been abandoned.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: roamer_1 on March 27, 2020, 02:57:22 am
We shouldn't be allowing any migration right now.  The U.S. just topped all other countries for confirmed cases of Coronavirus.  This is a disgrace, and I bet Trump gladly signs this piece of crap.  And our Border Agents have reported that they feel like they have been abandoned.

No it's not... It is statistical nonsense. Cases per capita adjusts for overall population, and in that we will be way lower.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 03:20:23 am
No it's not... It is statistical nonsense. Cases per capita adjusts for overall population, and in that we will be way lower.

Thank you @roamer_1 .  I must have been reading fake news!  Sounded depressing.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: roamer_1 on March 27, 2020, 03:46:27 am
Thank you @roamer_1 .  I must have been reading fake news!  Sounded depressing.

 :laugh: :beer:

Illigitimi non carborundum   :seeya:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 03:08:39 pm
Trump can't contain himself to get this bill signed.  Watching all those republicans following Trump right off the cliff.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: DCPatriot on March 27, 2020, 06:58:02 pm
Trump can't contain himself to get this bill signed.  Watching all those republicans following Trump right off the cliff.

Doesn't matter whatsoever, @Chosen Daughter

Have been saying here for years...it's all 'Monopoly Money' anyway.   They printed $2Trillion out of thin air.

And as you lay your head to sleep tonight, remember, there are federal bankruptcy laws to protect the Trump hotel organization.

And we can agree that he has some level of experience in bankruptcy laws.    happy77
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 27, 2020, 07:28:50 pm
Doesn't matter whatsoever, @Chosen Daughter

Have been saying here for years...it's all 'Monopoly Money' anyway.   They printed $2Trillion out of thin air.

The Feds are authorized to print up to $4 Trillion more for the next rounds.  It was smart of the Congress to do this in chunks to see how many Congressmen would sign a bill they didn't read, based only on their profound trust that our President would utilize it justly.  Based on virtually unanimous support in both chambers and, anecdotally, your and my support we can expect much more spending. 

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And as you lay your head to sleep tonight, remember, there are federal bankruptcy laws to protect the Trump hotel organization.

And we can agree that he has some level of experience in bankruptcy laws.    happy77

Agreed.   We are great Americans @DCPatriot  :beer:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: corbe on March 27, 2020, 09:40:43 pm
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Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 27, 2020, 09:46:15 pm
$350 million to refugees --IF they are granted asylum  they WILL be eligible to vote in 2024.  The GOP continues to slit it's throat.

Nice to see that we are "putting America first".
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 27, 2020, 09:47:27 pm
Thank you @roamer_1 .  I must have been reading fake news!  Sounded depressing.

@Chosen Daughter that's exactly what stories like that are supposed to do.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 10:48:19 pm
I don't think the President is Constitutionally obligated to sign it.  The GOP republicans voted unanimously for it.  Perhaps it is time to let the party pass away if it can't develop an immunity to it's reckless spending.

Its gone already, but  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 10:53:07 pm
@Chosen Daughter that's exactly what stories like that are supposed to do.

Your right.  I know.  Everything that is being done is going to affect people and their mental health.  People who have worked all their lives suddenly without jobs, and dependent on the Government.  Then the media stokes more fear.  Thankfully I know what my Hope is.  But to many this is very scary, and uncertain.  They have no idea what kind of affect that can have on someone who is already feeling depressed.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 27, 2020, 11:11:52 pm
Your right.  I know.  Everything that is being done is going to affect people and their mental health.  People who have worked all their lives suddenly without jobs, and dependent on the Government.  Then the media stokes more fear.  Thankfully I know what my Hope is.  But to many this is very scary, and uncertain.  They have no idea what kind of affect that can have on someone who is already feeling depressed.

Just accidentally caught 5 minutes of the CBS evening news...I was ready to throw something at the TV three different stories that have all been confirmed to be false run as if they are the truth.

It's shameful.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 11:13:49 pm
Just accidentally caught 5 minutes of the CBS evening news...I was ready to throw something at the TV three different stories that have all been confirmed to be false run as if they are the truth.

It's shameful.

You are right.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 27, 2020, 11:15:42 pm
You are right.

One of the stories was on how we've passed all other countries in Chinese Virus cases (we haven't) and that leaked draft memo from the Henry Ford Hospital in Michigan about rationing care.  They aren't doing that...it was a draft "what if" memo if it were to get that bad.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 27, 2020, 11:26:25 pm
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Doesn't matter whatsoever, @Chosen Daughter

Have been saying here for years...it's all 'Monopoly Money' anyway.   They printed $2Trillion out of thin air.

@DCPatriot

2 trillion here,2 trillion there,and pretty soon you are talking REAL money!

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And as you lay your head to sleep tonight, remember, there are federal bankruptcy laws to protect the Trump hotel organization.

And we can agree that he has some level of experience in bankruptcy laws.    happy77

Turning into quite the Cheap Shot Bandit,ain't ya,bubba? WTF does Trump's hotels and bankruptcy laws have to do with this,fool?

1: The bankruptcy Laws existed before Trump was even born.

2: It was a DIM  budget put together by people like Chuckie and Nancy. Trump had nothing to do with it.

3: His choice was to either sign the bill or be personally blamed for the recession/depression that is coming. The Dims had him and the entire nation over a barrel,and they knew it.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 27, 2020, 11:27:46 pm
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@corbe

Thank you! That pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 27, 2020, 11:29:52 pm
@corbe

Thank you! That pretty much sums it up.

It's not just her and the Dems.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 11:34:56 pm
Doesn't matter whatsoever, @Chosen Daughter

Have been saying here for years...it's all 'Monopoly Money' anyway.   They printed $2Trillion out of thin air.

And as you lay your head to sleep tonight, remember, there are federal bankruptcy laws to protect the Trump hotel organization.

And we can agree that he has some level of experience in bankruptcy laws.    happy77

Oh, you know he does.  I guess he can weigh whether a bailout or bankruptcy is better.  Either way no skin off his fat butt.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: corbe on March 27, 2020, 11:37:23 pm
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@txradioguy
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 11:39:43 pm
It's not just her and the Dems.


Stop doing that.  They are trying to ignore that fact.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 27, 2020, 11:40:50 pm
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Love, love, love it.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: roamer_1 on March 27, 2020, 11:50:38 pm
Love, love, love it.

Yep... All it needs is Tump's fat *ss as the pillow.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 27, 2020, 11:53:31 pm
It's not just her and the Dems.

@txradioguy

No,it's not.There are FAR too many RINO's eager to buy votes while putting the entire blame on the Dims.

Trump is NOT one of them,though,and I am tired the cheap shots and snide comments from those jealous of his wealth.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 28, 2020, 12:01:19 am
Yep... All it needs is Tump's fat *ss as the pillow.


ROFL!!
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 28, 2020, 04:39:15 am
@txradioguy

No,it's not.There are FAR too many RINO's eager to buy votes while putting the entire blame on the Dims.

Trump is NOT one of them,though,and I am tired the cheap shots and snide comments from those jealous of his wealth.

If Trumps signature is on it and he’s out there bragging about it...then he IS one of them.

You can be tired of the cheap shots all you want...but there would be cheap shots if Trumpnwasnt spending like a Liberal Dem.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: roamer_1 on March 28, 2020, 04:47:33 am
If Trumps signature is on it and he’s out there bragging about it...then he IS one of them.

THAT'S RIGHT.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 28, 2020, 06:06:05 am
If Trumps signature is on it and he’s out there bragging about it...then he IS one of them.

You can be tired of the cheap shots all you want...but there would be cheap shots if Trumpnwasnt spending like a Liberal Dem.

Amen!!!!
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 28, 2020, 01:37:30 pm
@txradioguy

Ok,numbnuts tell us all HOW he can get reelected and have ANY hope of having a
Republican-controlled Congress if he DOESN'T sign that spending bill?

Pelosi and the DNC PURPOSELY made sure that bill was full of "bombs" they could use
to destroy the RNC's chances in the upcoming election. This was a win/win for them
because if Trump signs it the mental midgets in the alleged Republican Party all
get their panties in a bunch and refuse to vote for Republicans in the upcoming elections.

If Trump DOESN'T sign it,he becomes a evil Billionaire McScrooge who was looking out
for his billionaire class of crony friends and politicians,and he loses the election and
the Republican Party has NO chance of EVER gaining power again because within a
decade we will be a cog in World Wide Government,Inc,and our leaders will be appointed
by the international banking families.

Seems like Pelosi has outsmarted you and those like you,not Trump.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 28, 2020, 01:49:59 pm
@txradioguy

Ok,numbnuts tell us all HOW he can get reelected and have ANY hope of having a
Republican-controlled Congress if he DOESN'T sign that spending bill?

Pelosi and the DNC PURPOSELY made sure that bill was full of "bombs" they could use
to destroy the RNC's chances in the upcoming election. This was a win/win for them
because if Trump signs it the mental midgets in the alleged Republican Party all
get their panties in a bunch and refuse to vote for Republicans in the upcoming elections.

If Trump DOESN'T sign it,he becomes a evil Billionaire McScrooge who was looking out
for his billionaire class of crony friends and politicians,and he loses the election and
the Republican Party has NO chance of EVER gaining power again because within a
decade we will be a cog in World Wide Government,Inc,and our leaders will be appointed
by the international banking families.

Seems like Pelosi has outsmarted you and those like you,not Trump.

What we have is the proverbial "rock and hard place". Depressing.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: skeeter on March 28, 2020, 02:22:46 pm
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Very creepy.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 28, 2020, 03:06:02 pm
What we have is the proverbial "rock and hard place". Depressing.

@catfish1957

The typical Dim voter may be as insightful as a rock,but the herd masters are as sharp as tacks,and they know how to play hardball.

In this case,Massey is also caught between a rock and a hard place. He IS doing the right thing,and the Dims have now used their PR machine to turn him into an "Anti-Trump movement leader". A two-fer. Not only turns single-issue Republican voters and supporters against Trump for signing a bill he has no choice but to sign,but will also turn some Republican voters against Massey.

Win-Win for the Dims,as the Republicans form their typical circular firing squad.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 28, 2020, 03:45:51 pm
@catfish1957

The typical Dim voter may be as insightful as a rock,but the herd masters are as sharp as tacks,and they know how to play hardball.

In this case,Massey is also caught between a rock and a hard place. He IS doing the right thing,and the Dims have now used their PR machine to turn him into an "Anti-Trump movement leader". A two-fer. Not only turns single-issue Republican voters and supporters against Trump for signing a bill he has no choice but to sign,but will also turn some Republican voters against Massey.

Win-Win for the Dims,as the Republicans form their typical circular firing squad.

Accept for one thing. That kind of tactic has failed time after time after time for the Dems. Trump has never been stronger with Republicans and conservatives, the vast majority of whom are not stupid enough to think he had any choice other than to sign this bill...they understand that the Dems put some poison pills in it, though the President WAS able to force them to drop some of the worst of these. They also understand the nation needed this stimulus...this is a genuine fiscal crisis brought on by a Pandemic of immense magnitude.

Without this stimulus, Dem imposed warts and all, we COULD be staring down the barrel of a new Depression...and we WOULD be staring down the barrel of a President Biden with two Dem Houses of Congress with heavy majorities. Know that and be afraid...because some outcomes are worthy of fear and Dem dominance of all branches of our government is first on that list.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 28, 2020, 04:40:22 pm
Accept for one thing. That kind of tactic has failed time after time after time for the Dems. Trump has never been stronger with Republicans and conservatives, the vast majority of whom are not stupid enough to think he had any choice other than to sign this bill...they understand that the Dems put some poison pills in it, though the President WAS able to force them to drop some of the worst of these. They also understand the nation needed this stimulus...this is a genuine fiscal crisis brought on by a Pandemic of immense magnitude.

Without this stimulus, Dem imposed warts and all, we COULD be staring down the barrel of a new Depression...and we WOULD be staring down the barrel of a President Biden with two Dem Houses of Congress with heavy majorities. Know that and be afraid...because some outcomes are worthy of fear and Dem dominance of all branches of our government is first on that list.

@Mesaclone

Seems like a fair number of stupid ones are posting here. I don't know if they truly represent the viewpoints of the typical Republican voter,but if they do,it is a concern because there IS a possibility it could snowball into enough numbers to make Trump lose the WH and the Republicans lose the Senate. If that happens,America is in DEEP doo-doo because the Dims are now completely out of patience and if they gain control of both the Senate and the WH,it's the end of America as a sovereign nation.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 28, 2020, 04:56:12 pm
Granted, there should have been zero dollars allocated to helping illegals.

But I do give Republicans credit for knocking the amount down to 0.000175 of the total package.   happy77



Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 28, 2020, 05:04:51 pm
Granted, there should have been zero dollars allocated to helping illegals.

But I do give Republicans credit for knocking the amount down to 0.000175 of the total package.   happy77

@Right_in_Virginia

And WHAT is there to prevent Trump from either "repurposing" that money to something like more border walls and border guards, or just not spending it and letting it sit in the treasury once he is re-elected?
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 28, 2020, 09:12:21 pm
@Mesaclone

Seems like a fair number of stupid ones are posting here. I don't know if they truly represent the viewpoints of the typical Republican voter,but if they do,it is a concern because there IS a possibility it could snowball into enough numbers to make Trump lose the WH and the Republicans lose the Senate. If that happens,America is in DEEP doo-doo because the Dims are now completely out of patience and if they gain control of both the Senate and the WH,it's the end of America as a sovereign nation.

There's always that risk, but there'd be much more risk in blocking this legislation...FAR more risk. I agree with everything else you said.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 28, 2020, 09:13:46 pm
@Right_in_Virginia

And WHAT is there to prevent Trump from either "repurposing" that money to something like more border walls and border guards, or just not spending it and letting it sit in the treasury once he is re-elected?

Absolutely nothing really. And I'd bet that's exactly what he'll do.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: truth_seeker on March 28, 2020, 09:23:21 pm
Absolutely nothing really. And I'd bet that's exactly what he'll do.

I would use his power, to "re-purpose" such funds, assist firms helping to decouple from reliance on Chinese sources.

Like for instance Pharma from Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Panama etc.

 

Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 28, 2020, 11:58:53 pm
Absolutely nothing really. And I'd bet that's exactly what he'll do.

@Mesaclone

Not to worry. I am practically certain he would never dream of doing such a thing.

Go back to sleep,little dims,go back to sleep. There is nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 12:09:33 am
@Right_in_Virginia

And WHAT is there to prevent Trump from either "repurposing" that money to something like more border walls and border guards, or just not spending it and letting it sit in the treasury once he is re-elected?

Nothing @sneakypete  ... :beer:




Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 12:16:16 am
Nothing @sneakypete  ... :beer:

@Right_in_Virginia

I am considering changing my screen name to Captain Obvious.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 01:00:28 am
@Right_in_Virginia

I am considering changing my screen name to Captain Obvious.

No, don't  .... I missed this possibility/opportunity until you asked @sneakypete   Thank you!!  :beer:

Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 29, 2020, 06:17:27 am
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Seems like Pelosi has outsmarted you and those like you,not Trump.

No what you don't understand...numbnuts...is that she never HAD to outsmart Trump.

You don't have to outsmart anyone who is on your side already.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: txradioguy on March 29, 2020, 06:24:26 am
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But I do give Republicans credit for knocking the amount down to 0.000175 of the total package.

I'd like to see a source for your alleged percentage @Right_in_Virginia.

Why should they be recieving any percentage of the aid package at all in the first place?

Like I said earlier this bill serves two purposes...1) to let the Dems tank the economy on purpose and 2) to give Trump...McConnell..McCarthy and company a cover to spend like Reagan's proverbial "drunken sailors".

It's gonna be fun watching you and a couple others defend Trump signing a Progressive Liberal bill.

Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: DCPatriot on March 29, 2020, 09:06:07 am

It's gonna be fun watching you and a couple others defend Trump signing a Progressive Liberal bill.


Almost as much of a riot as watching you fidget and squirm here for the past 4 years.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 29, 2020, 11:31:15 am
Almost as much of a riot as watching you fidget and squirm here for the past 4 years.

@DCPatriot

Okay, I'll take a middle route.... 

Do you and others here take the offical position of SUPPORTING this $2T bill Porkulus Bill that is full all kind of non-COVID-19 related expenses, and take accountibiltity for all the impact that it entails on the economy? (i.e inflation, currency dilutuion, etc.) Just asking for some conservative  friends. :whistle:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 11:46:42 am
@DCPatriot

Okay, I'll take a middle route.... 

Do you and others here take the offical position of SUPPORTING this $2T bill Porkulus Bill that is full all kind of non-COVID-19 related expenses, and take accountibiltity for all the impact that it entails on the economy? (i.e inflation, currency dilutuion, etc.) Just asking for some conservative  friends. :whistle:
@catfish1957
I will, as long as I can retain my scorn for the reckless and wasteful spending that preceded this National Emergency, when America had the best economy in the history of America.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 29, 2020, 12:06:39 pm
@catfish1957
I will, as long as I can retain my scorn for the reckless and wasteful spending that preceded this National Emergency, when America had the best economy in the history of America.

@Once-Ler

I understand, but this is the proverbial kicking the can down the road of economic reckoning.  This country went 1945- 2000. without severe government fiancial ntervention.  Now in just the past 20 years, we have had to absorb the WOT, QE of the late '00's, and now this.  The currency printing press can only whirl at a certain rpm, before the wheels fly off, and the dollar less valuable than toilet paper (pun-no charge  :cool:)

The cold cold fact is that our tax dollars are like Crack to our irresponsible legislators.  Giving them more now under the precept of an emergency is like giving Meth to an addict.  At some point you freakin' got to say NO...   Or the they bleed us for more the next emergency, etc.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 12:51:38 pm
@Once-Ler

I understand, but this is the proverbial kicking the can down the road of economic reckoning.  This country went 1945- 2000. without severe government fiancial ntervention.  Now in just the past 20 years, we have had to absorb the WOT, QE of the late '00's, and now this.  The currency printing press can only whirl at a certain rpm, before the wheels fly off, and the dollar less valuable than toilet paper (pun-no charge  :cool:)

I'm not saying you're distorting the truth to make a point, but I can remember stimulus bills and reckless spending going back much further.  You have a Constitutional and God given right to your opinion, and I know that opinion is formed from an informed intellect with a great heart.  I see stuff differently.  I see a President with access to the best information, and the best advice, recognizing that he can't fix this by himself.  I think he thinks he actually needs the support of experts, Congress, Governors, the media, and people who did not vote for him.  I see him praise these people and ask for their further support daily.  I have TDS, but I'm also a huge coward that doesn't want to die yet ( and of course I worry about family and friends...like you, but mostly me ) so when the daily increase in deaths begins to fall, I might spend more time grading the President on his performance solving this crisis, but until then I see much stronger President than ever before.  I support his 15 day guideline, his assertion that our top priority is saving lives, his mostly consistent message of We Are All In This Together, and even this huge stimulus package.

If I had to complain about anything right now it would really only be he is still lying to me about the tests.

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The cold cold fact is that our tax dollars are like Crack to our irresponsible legislators.  Giving them more now under the precept of an emergency is like giving Meth to an addict.  At some point you freakin' got to say NO...   Or the they bleed us for more the next emergency, etc.

Two months ago I would be agreeing with that.  Today I pray the 2,000 American dead do not weigh so heavy upon my President's soul that he forgets he is everybody's President, gives into his anger, and starts saying dick stuff like "If they don't treat you right, I don't call"

Anthony Cornrod @TWIT_ANTHONY

LET HIS LOVING LIGHT SHINE!
OR ELSE!

Respect @catfish1957  :beer:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: catfish1957 on March 29, 2020, 01:12:38 pm


Respect @catfish1957  :beer:

I think we are 95% on the same page, just that I  have a little less empathy  towards the entitlement class who seem to always benefit the most from these handouts.  If this bill was significantly sliced, and 100% driven toward saving lives from COVID-19, I'd be on board.  Honestly, I don't think it takes $2T.

Best regards,

 :beer:

 
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: DCPatriot on March 29, 2020, 01:52:38 pm
@DCPatriot

Okay, I'll take a middle route.... 

Do you and others here take the offical position of SUPPORTING this $2T bill Porkulus Bill that is full all kind of non-COVID-19 related expenses, and take accountibiltity for all the impact that it entails on the economy? (i.e inflation, currency dilutuion, etc.) Just asking for some conservative  friends. :whistle:

@catfish1957

Nobody is the least bit happy about printing $2Trillion out of air.

Leaving President Trump completely out of this...pretend it's 'Pres. Cruz';  Hands down, it's the best/smartest $2 Trillion spent over the last 75 years.

We have oodles and oodles of material for the upcoming campaign pointing out the wasteful spending and quid pro quo demanded by the Democrats.

You actually think Donald Trump, the man, is going to take this sitting down?    :patriot:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: DCPatriot on March 29, 2020, 02:09:16 pm
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Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 02:11:15 pm
I think we are 95% on the same page, just that I  have a little less empathy  towards the entitlement class who seem to always benefit the most from these handouts.  If this bill was significantly sliced, and 100% driven toward saving lives from COVID-19, I'd be on board.  Honestly, I don't think it takes $2T.

Thanks for your response @catfish1957
That makes perfect sense and I agree completely.  The problem is because of how the two parties, and our fellow Americans have treated each other for much longer than 4 years, we can't pass a "100% driven toward saving lives from COVID-19" bill.  We can't agree on what would constitute the bill.  This law, as foul as it is, is unanimous, and that sends a smart message to the markets.

It is said politics is the art of the possible.

It is impossible for my President to quarantine America, he can't open us for business either.  Dr Fauci rightfully says the virus controls the timeline.  The President could order me to go out to eat, the theater, or a concert.  I won't, until I feel safe.  I don't go to the store if I don't have to, because I have a wife and children.  I am afraid for them and the fact that I have no income coming in makes it much easier to stay home and not spend.  Unfortunately my job won't return until customers return, so perhaps a check from the government will spur me to shop again.

Politicians who tell me about their solutions and concerns, beat out the righteous politicians who demand a roll call vote, perfection, and point their finger at the President, when people unanimously disagree with them. 

again JMO

I choose to believe President Trump, and Majority Leader McConnell weighed what could be accomplished under the gun of steadily increasing American deaths.  Perhaps naive, on my part, but it's the world I want to live in.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 04:27:51 pm
@Once-Ler

I understand, but this is the proverbial kicking the can down the road of economic reckoning.  This country went 1945- 2000. without severe government fiancial ntervention.  Now in just the past 20 years, we have had to absorb the WOT, QE of the late '00's, and now this.  The currency printing press can only whirl at a certain rpm, before the wheels fly off, and the dollar less valuable than toilet paper (pun-no charge  :cool:)

The cold cold fact is that our tax dollars are like Crack to our irresponsible legislators.  Giving them more now under the precept of an emergency is like giving Meth to an addict. At some point you freakin' got to say NO...   Or the they bleed us for more the next emergency, etc.

@catfish1957

THERE it is! As someone famous whom I can't remember used to say decades ago,"Money is the Mother's Milk of politics!"

Post 1 of a series

I am having to do this because once again,I spent a long time composing my thoughts in a semi-orderly manner,and somehow hit the touchpad wrong and it all disappeared and I have to do it again.

Post 2 will follow in a bit.  Same place,same station.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on March 29, 2020, 04:57:04 pm
I'd like to see a source for your alleged percentage @Right_in_Virginia.

Why should they be recieving any percentage of the aid package at all in the first place?

My source was a calculator. 
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 05:18:45 pm
@catfish1957

THERE it is! As someone famous whom I can't remember used to say decades ago,"Money is the Mother's Milk of politics!"

Post 1 of a series

I am having to do this because once again,I spent a long time composing my thoughts in a semi-orderly manner,and somehow hit the touchpad wrong and it all disappeared and I have to do it again.

Post 2 will follow in a bit.  Same place,same station.

Post 2

 Money being the Mother of Politics isn't something that happened last week. It has always been true,but back in the "pre-computer" days there was no such thing as "instant payoffs",and sometimes it might take months to get all the "t's" crossed and the "i's" dotted before the deal was sealed.

This is not the case today. Today,a multi-million dollar pay off is done within a instant with the push of the "send" key. As a result of this political corruption has skyrocketed and we are just now starting to see and understand how big the problem really is.

Yeah,anybody who has ever read "The Creature from Jekyll Island"

https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve-ebook/dp/B00ARFNQ54 (https://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve-ebook/dp/B00ARFNQ54)

understands the monster we allowed to be created thanks to the greed,influence,and power of the banking families that started buying politicians back when they were cheap,but the instant communications of today make this even easier to monitor,as well as easier and quicker for them to do.

It is a double-edged sword,but we FINALLY have a "tool" we can use to fight against the bought and paid for corruption. If we DON'T use this tool to root out and diminish the corruption,it's the fault of no one other than ourselves.

Which brings me back "on target". The "target" in this case is President Trump,and although he is the enemy of everyone on the left,he is also unfortunately the "target" of many on the right" because he didn't defeat political corruption the first day he held office.

The reality is that no one,regardless of who they are,can do this.

The ugly truth is you MUST work within the system in existence to change it. The only other option is revolution,and another ugly reality is that the end result of a revolution in this day and age would result in the formal establishment of the international police state those of us who are rational fear the most.

No one I can think of is in a better position to kick this off than Trump. He grew up in a wealty business family in maybe the most corrupt city in the nation,if not the world,and he grew up seeing his father being forced to pay bribes to everyone from employees in the permits office to Mayors and even Governors and union officials to get work done they had already paid fees on for permits.

He even learned as a teen that it was necessary to socialize with those same crooks,and pretend to be their friends because simply slipping money to them wasn't enough. To be successful in business in an area controlled by corrupt politicians,you MUST also convince them you are their friend and agree with them so that YOU also have "powerful friends" on call if someone in "corruption mid-management" wants to cause you grief if you don't pay more.

This is so common in places like NYC that builders just write it off as "the cost of doing business" by inflating their contracts to make sure they have the cash to do the job as well as pay off the corrupt politicians for the permits and approval,and the corrupt union bosses to keep the project going.


Hope to sum this up with Post  3  Chemo brain has my mind wandering,and it's hard to keep focused.


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understands the monster we allowed to be created thanks to the greed,influence,and power of the banking families that started buying politicians back when they were cheap,

Self-correction:  "understands the monster we allowed to be created thanks to the greed,influence,and power of the banking families that started buying politicians back when they were called ROYALTY."

Sorry,I am tired.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Mesaclone on March 29, 2020, 05:22:08 pm
My source was a calculator.

 :rolling: :rolling:
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 05:47:46 pm
Which brings me back "on target". The "target" in this case is President Trump,and although he is the enemy of everyone on the left,he is also unfortunately the "target" of many on the right" because he didn't defeat political corruption the first day he held office.

The reality is that no one,regardless of who they are,can do this.

It's unfortunate President Trump promised precisely this.  In fact he said he was the only one who could do it.  Instead of indictments for Hillary, Obama, Comey, Page, Strzok, and Rosenstein people like Flynn, Cohen, Stone, and Manifort are behind bars.

Good rant @sneakypete .
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 05:49:59 pm
@catfish1957

THERE it is! As someone famous whom I can't remember used to say decades ago,"Money is the Mother's Milk of politics!"

Post 3,and probably the final one.

Yet,despite all this,we are having to deal with the self-identified "Pure (wrong word)Republicans"
that want to claim that they are the only ones pure of heart,and any President that isn't the "good little dictator" of their dreams is corrupt,evil,and has bad breath,and they ain't going to vote for him because "he isn't as pure as we are!"

Guess what,goobers? He also ain't on the outside looking in. HE,unlike YOU,is on the inside and the ONLY one in a position to make ANY of the changes that need to be made. So take your "holier than though stance,and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. It can keep your brain company,because your ego is obviously doing the work your brain SHOULD be doing.

NOBODY can change an established and powerful condition overnight. As in any "war",it is important to think stragetically and choose your targets and your timing. You just gotta play "Brer Rabbit" at times,which tends to upset the people who tend to have unreasonable expectations. I would love to give you examples of what I SUSPECT is that play in action,but this is one of those rare cases where I am afraid I might be right and upset the "game".

Trump is a Master of this game. He is also smart enough to occasionally play stupid.Yet,despite all this,we are having to deal with the self-identified "Pure of Heart Republicans"
that want to claim that they are the only ones pure of heart,and any President that isn't the "good little dictator" of their dreams that is instantly going to change a century old system overnight is corrupt,evil,has bad breath,and they ain't going to vote for him because "he isn't as pure as we are!"

I might add more later,but just lost 4x as much as you see above,and am tired.

BTW,can anybody tell me how to keep this damn laptop from "disappearing" my texts before I am ready to save them?
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 05:52:19 pm
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It's unfortunate President Trump promised precisely this.



@Once-Ler

No,what is unfortunate is that there are so many people who are  SUPPOSED to be rational adults took it seriously.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 06:17:14 pm
@catfish1957
Guess what,goobers? He also ain't on the outside looking in. HE,unlike YOU,is on the inside and the ONLY one in a position to make ANY of the changes that need to be made. So take your "holier than though stance,and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine. It can keep your brain company,because your ego is obviously doing the work your brain SHOULD be doing.

That is some brilliant shaming of those you disagree with @sneakypete , and a passionate defense of Trumps actions while completely ignoring his complicity in signing three coronavirus laws.  That takes an audacity bordering on mania.  Please post more

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Trump is a Master of this game. He is also smart enough to occasionally play stupid.

I agree he is a master at that.

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Yet,despite all this,we are having to deal with the self-identified "Pure of Heart Republicans" that want to claim that they are the only ones pure of heart,and any President that isn't the "good little dictator" of their dreams that is instantly going to change a century old system overnight is corrupt,evil,has bad breath,and they ain't going to vote for him because "he isn't as pure as we are!"

If I disparaged the President's breath I appoligize...I'm sure I meant morals.

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I might add more later,but just lost 4x as much as you see above,and am tired.

Please do.  You're good at this.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 06:21:17 pm




@Once-Ler

No,what is unfortunate is that there are so many people who are  SUPPOSED to be rational adults took it seriously.

The Trump fans who chanted Lock her Up, and Drain the Swamp were irrational.  Got it. @sneakypete 
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 06:48:30 pm
The Trump fans who chanted Lock her Up, and Drain the Swamp were irrational.  Got it. @sneakypete

@Once-Ler

Yes,they were. Even most children are mature enough to understand nothing like that is going to happen in the first 15 minutes of a new presidency.

Which seems to be EXACTLY what most of them expected to happen.

The Clinton's will NEVER get locked up any more than the Kennedy's or the Bush's were locked up.

Like it or not,and I don't like it myself,but they are "too big to bust" because they know too much about too many other prominent politicians and business leaders,and neither party is going to allow it to happen. When Bubba was impeached,all of the Dims and most of the alleged Republicans even refused to go to the evidence room to look at the evidence under lock and key.

Wishing it would happen is one thing. Expecting it to happen is being delusional.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on March 29, 2020, 06:59:07 pm
@Once-Ler

Yes,they were. Even most children are mature enough to understand nothing like that is going to happen in the first 15 minutes of a new presidency.

Which seems to be EXACTLY what most of them expected to happen.

The Clinton's will NEVER get locked up any more than the Kennedy's or the Bush's were locked up.

Like it or not,and I don't like it myself,but they are "too big to bust" because they know too much about too many other prominent politicians and business leaders,and neither party is going to allow it to happen. When Bubba was impeached,all of the Dims and most of the alleged Republicans even refused to go to the evidence room to look at the evidence under lock and key.

Wishing it would happen is one thing. Expecting it to happen is being delusional.

@sneakypete I'm glad you knew he was a liar from the beginning.  I irrationally thought he might try to fulfill his promises to punish corruption, but I don't mean to sound ungrateful for the stellar work he did in finally bringing Hunter Biden to justice.   wink777
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 07:27:05 pm
@sneakypete I'm glad you knew he was a liar from the beginning.  I irrationally thought he might try to fulfill his promises to punish corruption, but I don't mean to sound ungrateful for the stellar work he did in finally bringing Hunter Biden to justice.   wink777

@Once-Ler

I certainly give you credit for being one of the most polished liars on this board.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: Chosen Daughter on March 29, 2020, 08:58:50 pm
@Once-Ler

I certainly give you credit for being one of the most polished liars on this board.

I don't think he lied, did he?  Where?  I didn't see it.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: sneakypete on March 29, 2020, 11:28:53 pm
I don't think he lied, did he?  Where?  I didn't see it.

@Chosen Daughter

You wouldn't recognize a lie if it bit you on the ass. Your whole life is a series of altered realities.
Title: Re: Republicans Cave To Pelosi, Unanimously Vote To Give $350 Million To Refugees, Migrants
Post by: corbe on March 30, 2020, 12:24:52 am
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