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General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2023, 01:46:05 pm
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‘All-Out Assault’: Things Are About To Bust Wide Open Between Trump, DeSantis
Diana Glebova
White House Correspondent
May 23, 2023 9:20 PM ET
The Trump campaign plans to unleash an “all-out assault” following Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Wednesday announcement, while Team DeSantis plans to go all 10 rounds, associates close to both of the GOP contenders told the Daily Caller.
On the same day that Trump associates told the Daily Caller that they intended to “rip” DeSantis’ “head off,” an associate friendly with DeSantis’ campaign said he planned to do the “rope-a-dope,” a boxing term in which you allow your opponent to throw so many punches, he tires himself out.
Things will certainly bust open in many ways following DeSantis‘ official entry into the GOP primary. Trump will go on a full scale attack, and DeSantis, for his part, would be able to raise money and make statements more openly.
DeSantis is likely to continue holding back and taking his shots more carefully though, associates say.
“Trump is a slugger. He likes to throw haymakers. DeSantis is more strategic. He’s more of a boxer. He’s more of a 15 round guy,” Bill Mitchell, an independent talk show host friendly with the DeSantis campaign, told the Caller.
more
https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/23/all-out-assault-trump-desantis-2024-campaign/
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Here we go - Trump is preparing to do the democrats' dirty work for them.
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Here we go - Trump is preparing to do the democrats' dirty work for them.
Usually in the Republican primary, the Republican candidates try to “out right” each other, but then go more moderate for the general
It’s becoming clear that Donald Trump is going to attack, not just DeSantis, but the other GOP candidates from the left
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Usually in the Republican primary, the Republican candidates try to “out right” each other, but then go more moderate for the general
It’s becoming clear that Donald Trump is going to attack, not just DeSantis, but the other GOP candidates from the left
In other words, he's doing the left's dirty work for them.
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In other words, he's doing the left's dirty work for them.
Yeah
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The best way for DeSantis to handle Orange McBlowhard is to keep a smile on his face, tout his accomplishments, stay on the subject of policy and express an occasional bit of pity for Trump, who can’t properly articulate actual policy issues. Continue to stay above the two-bit sniping and the orange menace will kill his own campaign with unforced errors.
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‘All-Out Assault’: Things Are About To Bust Wide Open Between Trump, DeSantis
Diana Glebova
White House Correspondent
May 23, 2023 9:20 PM ET
The Trump campaign plans to unleash an “all-out assault” following Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Wednesday announcement, while Team DeSantis plans to go all 10 rounds, associates close to both of the GOP contenders told the Daily Caller.
On the same day that Trump associates told the Daily Caller that they intended to “rip” DeSantis’ “head off,” an associate friendly with DeSantis’ campaign said he planned to do the “rope-a-dope,” a boxing term in which you allow your opponent to throw so many punches, he tires himself out.
Things will certainly bust open in many ways following DeSantis‘ official entry into the GOP primary. Trump will go on a full scale attack, and DeSantis, for his part, would be able to raise money and make statements more openly.
DeSantis is likely to continue holding back and taking his shots more carefully though, associates say.
“Trump is a slugger. He likes to throw haymakers. DeSantis is more strategic. He’s more of a boxer. He’s more of a 15 round guy,” Bill Mitchell, an independent talk show host friendly with the DeSantis campaign, told the Caller.
more
https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/23/all-out-assault-trump-desantis-2024-campaign/
As though there aren't enough, this will cause MORE people to dislike Trump and will make him TOTALLY UNELECTABLE, if that were even possible. The people that dislike him will dislike him even more.
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The best way for DeSantis to handle Orange McBlowhard is to keep a smile on his face, tout his accomplishments, stay on the subject of policy and express an occasional bit of pity for Trump, who can’t properly articulate actual policy issues. Continue to stay above the two-bit sniping and the orange menace will kill his own campaign with unforced errors.
I like that. A few condescending asides at his age wouldn't hurt either.
"Look, the guy is what, nearly 80? I'm not going to get upset about an old guy like that yelling stuff anymore. But he and Biden are good examples of why it is time for the next generation."
That kind of thing will infuriate Trump.
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The best way for DeSantis to handle Orange McBlowhard is to keep a smile on his face, tout his accomplishments, stay on the subject of policy and express an occasional bit of pity for Trump, who can’t properly articulate actual policy issues. Continue to stay above the two-bit sniping and the orange menace will kill his own campaign with unforced errors.
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‘All-Out Assault’: Things Are About To Bust Wide Open Between Trump, DeSantis
Diana Glebova
White House Correspondent
May 23, 2023 9:20 PM ET
The Trump campaign plans to unleash an “all-out assault” following Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ Wednesday announcement, while Team DeSantis plans to go all 10 rounds, associates close to both of the GOP contenders told the Daily Caller.
On the same day that Trump associates told the Daily Caller that they intended to “rip” DeSantis’ “head off...."
And then he and his supporters will blame DeSantis for being so divisive.
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Let's see what DeSantis is made of. Trump will test his mettle.
If the GOP nominee can't defeat Trump, he won't defeat Biden.
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And then he and his supporters will blame DeSantis for being so divisive.
No doubt.
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The best way for DeSantis to handle Orange McBlowhard is to keep a smile on his face, tout his accomplishments, stay on the subject of policy and express an occasional bit of pity for Trump, who can’t properly articulate actual policy issues. Continue to stay above the two-bit sniping and the orange menace will kill his own campaign with unforced errors.
DeSantis should just take a page from Reagan Maximus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN7gDRjTNf4
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I like that. A few condescending asides at his age wouldn't hurt either.
"Look, the guy is what, nearly 80? I'm not going to get upset about an old guy like that yelling stuff anymore. But he and Biden are good examples of why it is time for the next generation."
That kind of thing will infuriate Trump.
IMHO the best thing DeSantis can do is not take personal swipes at Trump. He should stick to going after him on policy. It's not going to be easy. Fiscal policy he was a failure, but he had us energy independent and renegotiated trade deals.
Chance are Trump will focus on going after DeSantis personally and that is going to sink him.
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IMHO the best thing DeSantis can do is not take personal swipes at Trump. Stick to going after him on policy.
Trump is a classic populist. He's going to push policies and actions that he thinks will resonate most with voters, regardless of whether or not they can be implemented, or the long-term consequences. To beat Trump, you have to show that he is a lot of hot air who doesn't follow through on the things he promises, and it is impossible to do that without getting personal to some extent. He has to be nailed for his "I only hire the best people" argument. He has to be called out for being too much of a coward to stand up to Fauci. And if age is a legitimate issue for an 80 year old Joe Biden, then its a legit issue for a guy who will be 78 when he takes office. Especially for younger people.
I agree on not going after him for his affairs, etc.. But if the stuff about the classified documents comes up, it is perfectly appropriate for DeSantis to point out 1) it does look like Trump is being unfairly targeted based on the information we have right now, but also 2) this entire thing could and should have been avoided had Trump simply done things ahead of time in writing, which would have been easy as hell. He handed that issue to the Democrats on a silver platter, and they of course used it. And he does deserve blame for being that dumb.
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I prefer Desantis for many, many reasons, but lets be honest, he has an uphill battle.
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I prefer Desantis for many, many reasons, but lets be honest, he has an uphill battle.
One thing Trump has going for him is hi ability to connect with people. His rallies are massive. He has the ability to just talk to his audience off the cuff on just about anything. DeSantis just doesn't have that ability, at least from what I've seen.
Don't get me wrong, DeSantis would definitely make the better president, but like you said, he has an uphill battle.
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One thing Trump has going for him is hi ability to connect with people. His rallies are massive. He has the ability to just talk to his audience off the cuff on just about anything. DeSantis just doesn't have that ability, at least from what I've seen.
Don't get me wrong, DeSantis would definitely make the better president, but like you said, he has an uphill battle.
That's fair. And a lot of people will vote for the person they find "most relatable" without regard to the issues, or competency, or anything else that might taint the image of their smooth talker.
Nothing we can do about that other that stick to our guns and vote for the candidate we see as the best choice.
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One thing Trump has going for him is hi ability to connect with people. His rallies are massive. He has the ability to just talk to his audience off the cuff on just about anything. DeSantis just doesn't have that ability, at least from what I've seen.
Don't get me wrong, DeSantis would definitely make the better president, but like you said, he has an uphill battle.
To which DeSantis should reply: Do you want the guy who only talks the talk, or do you want the guy who walks the walk?
Trump's term was mostly all talk, very little walk. So far, DeSantis has been the guy doing the walking in Florida.
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Took me a while to see this. The cold hard truth is that Trump isn’t fighter. It’s an act.
He’s a big mouth who trusts his opponents, takes punches, whines and cries about getting punched, then reactively flails around begging for donations.
They’ve beat him at every turn.
2:51 PM · May 24, 2023
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To which DeSantis should reply: Do you want the guy who only talks the talk, or do you want the guy who walks the walk?
Trump's term was mostly all talk, very little walk. So far, DeSantis has been the guy doing the walking in Florida.
Yup. Gotta show him to be the empty suit he really is. Call him out squarely on all the stuff he promised but didn't deliver.
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What worries me is the fact that so many people vote based on personality...not issues. And so many of the issues that DeSantis stands for are an anathema to many voters. But conversely, Trump hasn't endeared himself to a large swath of the voters either.
I don't see a rosy outlook. But I've been surprised and wrong in my life before.
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Here we go - Trump is preparing to do the democrats' dirty work for them.
@Kamaji
What,and take that job away from DeSantis?
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@Kamaji
What,and take that job away from DeSantis?
Yeah, whatever. So, DeSantis is doing the dems' dirty work against himself? That makes zero sense.
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This is just stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7duXmWwAAxUph?format=jpg&name=small)
I expect a heck of a lot more maturity of a former president/presidential candidate.
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This is just stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7duXmWwAAxUph?format=jpg&name=small)
I expect a heck of a lot more maturity of a former president/presidential candidate.
:facepalm2:
How childish.
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This is just stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7duXmWwAAxUph?format=jpg&name=small)
I expect a heck of a lot more maturity of a former president/presidential candidate.
I don’t get it :shrug:
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I like that. A few condescending asides at his age wouldn't hurt either.
"Look, the guy is what, nearly 80? I'm not going to get upset about an old guy like that yelling stuff anymore. But he and Biden are good examples of why it is time for the next generation."
That kind of thing will infuriate Trump.
Yeah... Old guy yelling at clouds.
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What worries me is the fact that so many people vote based on personality...not issues. And so many of the issues that DeSantis stands for are an anathema to many voters. But conversely, Trump hasn't endeared himself to a large swath of the voters either.
I don't see a rosy outlook. But I've been surprised and wrong in my life before.
DeSantis needs to stand hard on TEA Party issues. Wake it back up... The votes will come.
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This is just stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7duXmWwAAxUph?format=jpg&name=small)
I expect a heck of a lot more maturity of a former president/presidential candidate.
I thought that had to be a gag -- there's no way even Trump would post something like that. But it's actually legit:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110426121391422436
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@Kamaji
What,and take that job away from DeSantis?
Um, I think you lost track of the discussion.
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Amen.
The🐰FOO
@PolitiBunny
1. No single candidate is owed the nomination.
2. Healthy debate is good, especially during a primary. Key word, HEALTHY.
3. Eventually, we all have to work together to remove the Botox-filled puppet in the White House. Keep that in mind, pretty please.
4. Repeat.
6:32 AM · May 25, 2023
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DeSantis needs to just press forward, stay to the issues, and use Trump against himself to blunt his attacks.
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DeSantis needs to just press forward, stay to the issues, and use Trump against himself to blunt his attacks.
And don't respond to the silly childish namecalling.
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Amen.
The🐰FOO
@PolitiBunny
1. No single candidate is owed the nomination.
2. Healthy debate is good, especially during a primary. Key word, HEALTHY.
3. Eventually, we all have to work together to remove the Botox-filled puppet in the White House. Keep that in mind, pretty please.
4. Repeat.
6:32 AM · May 25, 2023
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I hope the first GOP Primary Debate looks a little like this ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlJWmlpVgKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlJWmlpVgKA)
... America collectively just needs to let out all its angst by watching politcians beat the crap out of each other.
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Anyone here really have a good feeling about 2024? I sure don't.
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Anyone here really have a good feeling about 2024? I sure don't.
I had a good feeling about 2016 until Trump jumped in. Hillary was widely disliked and it was a major opportunity for conservatives. But we got a shiny glittery he fights clown show instead that is still ongoing.
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I don't believe in hope ... it only sets me up for disappointment.
There is plenty of time and plenty of news cycles ahead of us.
There remains opportunity for a GOP Primary Candidate to differntiate himself, in a positive way, from the rest of the pack.
DeSantis is puching above his weight. I saw one of his 2018 Florida gubenatorial campaign commercials, and it was his wife doing most of the talking.
Pundits were making the point that DeSantis has an Elizabeth Warren issue ...
appeals to a too small, too extreme base, like Elizabeth Warren ...
is not naturally personable in impromptu public social situations, like Elizabeth Warren ...
and gets whisked away from the cameras when confronted by a reporter with a spur-of-the-moment question, like Elizabeth Warren.
DeSantis has time for him and his handlers to right his ship.
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I had a good feeling about 2016 until Trump jumped in. Hillary was widely disliked and it was a major opportunity for conservatives. But we got a shiny glittery he fights clown show instead that is still ongoing.
I never voted for Trump in 2016. Never was really comfortable with him as the GOP standard bearer. I became EXTREMELY comfortable with him in 2020 and would have walked over broken glass barefoot to vote for him and did. Then, the election was flat out stolen, and no one did a damned thing about it. Now I'm very unsure that it will ever again matter who the GOP nominates.
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I had a good feeling about 2016 until Trump jumped in. Hillary was widely disliked and it was a major opportunity for conservatives. But we got a shiny glittery he fights clown show instead that is still ongoing.
BIGTIME.
Broke the back of the most effective Conservative movement since Reagan, and destroyed Cruz. And for some reason, the people rejoiced. Chasing after shiny sh*t.
Surely the Democrats and the Republican NEOCONs rejoiced. *****rollingeyes*****
But now, DeSantis. Hope springs anew.
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Yeah, whatever. So, DeSantis is doing the dems' dirty work against himself? That makes zero sense.
@Kamaji
DeSantis is doing the Dims dirty work for them.
But you people don't care,as long as Rude Orange Man is the target.
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This is just stupid.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fw7duXmWwAAxUph?format=jpg&name=small)
I expect a heck of a lot more maturity of a former president/presidential candidate.
@mountaineer
Career business people use the word "friend" in a different sense than most people. To them it means someone they can convince to see their POV in order to work with them. Doesn't mean they admire them or agree with them,it just means they think they can work with them.
What would YOU prefer,him saying something like "I think I can force this bleep to work with me and follow my orders."?
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Anyone here really have a good feeling about 2024? I sure don't.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
I try to convince myself on a daily basis that "a change is gonna come",while convincing myself at the same time that it will be a change I like.
Gets harder to do with each passing day.
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I never voted for Trump in 2016. Never was really comfortable with him as the GOP standard bearer. I became EXTREMELY comfortable with him in 2020 and would have walked over broken glass barefoot to vote for him and did. Then, the election was flat out stolen, and no one did a damned thing about it. Now I'm very unsure that it will ever again matter who the GOP nominates.[/b]
@Bigun
The ABSOLUTE 100 percent truth.
I obviously share your doubts.
I also SERIOUSLY think that this may be the last actual "people's election" we have unless Trump or some other "Bomb Thrower" takes the WH.
At the same time,I SERIOUSLY think some "Miss Manners Candidate" will end up as the alleged Republican candidate,and it will make no actual difference at all which party wins because the outcome will be the same.
Nobody would be happier about me being proven wrong than me.